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[@binjones]

I agree. I came into Islam via Sufism. I then moved to a salafist stand and now, like Paul, I see value in both camps.

[@thamama-rh5oe]

It doesn't mean that sufism is against sharia

[@n.a.1397]

Tasawwuf is not a stand alone group or sect. It's branch of knowledge within Sunnism. So-called madkhalis and salafis are a new sect, they came after ibn Abdul Wahab and Rashid Ridha.

[@nsayyed5469]

Sufism is the actual islam (not extream Sufism)

[@youtubeaccount3230]

@@nsayyed5469thats a lie, just see the companions of the prophet and no one will say they were sufis

[@zakyzayn5361]

Us 🤝

[@safuwancj]

I am coming from mostly barelavi(india) background which have extreme sufi pratices (which made me leave islam becoming atheist)but through some of our athari / salafi brothers . i have become a now practicing Muslim. Alhamdulillah 😊

[@miraj6272]

Alhamdulillah!

[@TazKidNoah]

that's sounds like being basic Sunni who focus on Islam over modern sectarianists

[@kennethmoore-cq7bj]

Excellent conversation thoughtful and intelligent.Thank you!

[@dlhussain81]

A Muslim should never hate another

[@Alisalah_24]

Ignorant sentence. The salaf had a deep hate for deviants who preach their deviant ideology

[@nrnar]

The ending statement by the sheikh is a good reminder.

[@Fazal1981]

❤ what a gem of an advice ❤

[@muslimemporium]

Salafism is inclined towards literalism & Sufism is inclined towards symbolism - Paul here trying to find balance between the two is interesting..

[@reflection5057]

A group among...

[@TomatosRaafatos]

@@muslimemporium the balance between the two is essentially the middle way of mainstream Islam. I think the centrist position is the default correct position as the Prophet SAS himself was always balanced in his way of life, not too lenient, not too strict.

[@bigbowss9817]

Totally agreed. Islam is made for the whole of humanity, for all of time, and thats why its message is adaptable by design. It allows people to connect with their Creator in various ways within the guidelines of the Quran & Sunnah. We were not made as clones by design, the Quran itself says: "O Mankind, we have made you from male and female, and made you into peoples & tribes so that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous" Quran 49:13 This is not an excuse to divide ourselves into sects and become exclusivist. I would never label myself as anything but muslim, regardless of the jurisprudence I favor, just like the Quran & his prophet pbuh has commanded the believers. So we should never let hate enter our hearts, especially between fellow muslims, and settle any differences by going back to the Quran & Sunnah with humble hearts. Inshallah then, we can have a united Ummah instead of squabbling amongst ourselves over small differences of opinion while others are trying to destroy us entirely...

[@Ss3gokus]

Sunan ibn majah 3992

[@bigbowss9817]

@@Ss3gokus I adressed it, read again. If you believe only your specific way is correct and everyone else is kufr, then you've divided yourself into a small sect outside of the main body of the believers and not heeding the warning of this hadith (which is hasan, not sahih btw). Its a prophecy of warning, not a command. "Do not be of those who associate others with Allah, or those who divide into factions & sects, every faction rejoicing on what it has" Surah Ar-Rum ayat 30 "Indeed, those who have divided the religion and become sects, you [Muhammad] are free from them. Their affair is only to Allah; then he will inform of what they used to do" Surah Al-An'am ayat 159 "And in anything over which you disagree - its ruling goes back to Allah. Say That is Allah, my Lord, upon him I rely, and upon him I turn back" Surah Ash-Shura ayat 10

[@Ss3gokus]

@@bigbowss9817 ok so that’s 2 sects the way u divide it It doesn’t say that it says 72/73 sects of Muslims have to go to hell.

[@bigbowss9817]

@@Ss3gokus You're so dense. The point is if your idea generalized, than there will have many sects (up to 73 if you agree with that hadith) and only the *main body* is saved still. The point is DONT divide your religion into sects, be sincere in submitting to Allah alone and you will be part of the main body of the Ummah. Stop trying to fulfill prophecy when its made as a warning to those who seperate themselves from the majority of the believers...

[@aal-e-ahmadhussain3123]

We often talk about unity, without understanding one of its key components, “cohesion”. Allah ﷻ puts us through our paces to build that, yet we don’t engage with the process. Toward this end, it’s also really important to remove any “ghillah” (resentment) towards other Muslims. Allah ﷻ sets out an important dua for us in the Quran, “Our Lord! Forgive us and our fellow believers who preceded us in faith, and do not allow bitterness into our hearts towards those who believe. Our Lord! Indeed, You are Ever Gracious, Most Merciful.” (Quran 59:10).

[@John-gn5dm]

It would be interesting to know how deep brother Paul went into Sufism. Did he have a Tariqa and a madhab? Regardless I love his content and he’s a huge asset to the western Muslims by his neutrality

[@HK-zu8cf]

U begin to learn there’s a lot of personal immature spats There’s many things considered irreconcilable but actually are Well said Paul

[@Prayformetobeagoodmuslim]

JazakAllahukhayran for being fair Dr shadee, I am a salafi I disagree with the asharis but tassawuf(purification of the hearts, ihsaan, zuhd) is something we also have in salafeeya but we don’t use that term (we call it Tarbeeya wal tasfeeya) nor do we do certain adkaar certain turooq of Sufis do, or any grave veneration etc we just keep it simple…follow the sunnah in our sulook with no bidaa etc JazakAllahukhayran brother Paul For affirming the aqeedah of the salaf, you might have a different manhaj than most salafies when it comes to politics etc but these things to me are way above my head anyway, I’m glad Dr shadee didn’t belittle u either since he’s obviously an ashari…Very respectful conversation

[@ibrahimrizqy8254]

Thats totally my view same as bloging theology

[@nsayyed5469]

Mr. Paul needs to read ahmed rida khan ra. Because he is not actually salafi he missed the ahnafs teachings even deobanism is not that hanafi but barelvism is the perfect and exactly same as the Ottoman mughal etc

[@africa.austral]

@nsayyed5469 stop Gaslighting: Paul is not that naïve to fall for your advice❕

[@n.a.1397]

Ashari, Maturidi and the real Athari of old, are Ahlus Sunnah. Period.

[@personaladvisor9185]

Not period actually lol.

[@FactsWithActs]

keep telling yourself that.

[@aaquib2010]

add aristotle there as well bro

[@mohamedbel657]

Loooool no

[@n.a.1397]

@@FactsWithActsIt is a historical fact, read Islamic history and theology. All the petrodollars of Saud can't change that.

[@ampagetech2624]

Salafism is an immature way understanding reality. Any one with depth will know this , but it is still acceptable. As the Prophet ( SAW ) explained in the hadith of Jibril islam consists of both a horizontal and a vertical plane. The vertical plane is what is called ihsan - or perfection. Some people are satisfied with things as they appear - simple minded and practical that is "islam" , some are deeply intellectual and their plane is that of "iman" , theology and reason. Some go beyond that and their plane is spiritual or "ihsan" this tripartite division can also be found in the quran - ashab shimal , ashab yamin , as saabiqun in surat waqiat or again in surat fatir - zalimun linafsihi , muqtasidun and sabiqun bil khairat. The problem with salafis is they say nobody is right except them just like the qarn shaitan of najd said no one understands tawhid in the whole world except him and his followers. Egyptinas , turks , indians ,, the maghrib are all mushriks. That is salafism , its a neo khaarijite doctrine.

[@AY-oi3hv]

What's the source for that hadith of Jibril? I just want to know. thanks

[@AbdullahMikalRodriguez]

Well said. Completely agree.

[@AbdullahMikalRodriguez]

​@@AY-oi3hv Did you really just ask for a source for the most common Hadith in the entire tradition?

[@commontouch1787]

That’s not salafism, what you describe is madkhaalism

[@ampagetech2624]

madkhaalism was created by the Saudi govt as Yasir Qaadhi said in his encounter with them when they tried to prevent him getting masters admission in Madina. thru some sources he saw the min of education who indicated unknowingly that madkhaalis were planted by the govt and his case will be resolved. Salafis , madkhalis taimis , are all related and from same root. Their understanding is literal fideism. The quran in more than a hundred places said We - Allah send water from the heavens. The salaf believed that literally but today we know it is a symbolism not a literal meaning because if you travel at 10k meters you will get to know from where the rain comes. Salafism is a very harmful caricature of Islam.

[@mikhan5191]

Paul is confusing Salafiyyah with the Hambali Madhab. They are 2 different things. Salafis have infiltrated the Hambali Madhab and have confused the masses about the real beliefs of the Hambali Madhab.

[@uthmaankhan5802]

Shut up

[@capsulecorps2024]

My problem with salafi is that it's interesting but there is has many salafism as there are salafi people.. i mean you have so many versions of salafis ...it's become not serious at all

[@uthmaankhan5802]

@@capsulecorps2024 there are many versions of asharis and maturidies from moderates all the way to ppl who fall into kufr and biddah doesn’t mean jack about salafiyah

[@murtazaalam6254]

​@@uthmaankhan5802 One has to follow one of the four madhabs with Athari/ ashari/maturidi aqeedah. Alhamdolillah they form majority of ummah. Salafi sect is newer innovator group

[@iqadeer]

Paul has a deep appreciation for Dar At Ta’arud al aql wal naql of Ibn Taymiyya. If that’s not salafi, I don’t know what is.

[@muaznabil3707]

Being restricted to either Salafism or Sufism in my opinion is not good in the long run. Love prophet Muhammad PBUH more than anything and anyone in this world and you will be successful.

[@AthariSunniTradition]

Another thing to note, Sufis whose inflicted by severe innovations and teachings that may lead to disbelief are *HIGHLY AGAINST SALAFISM!* Where as on the other hand Salafis whose inflicted with Hizbiyah and oppressive-repulsive character may be *HIGHLY AGAINST Legal systematic Fiqh (4 schools of jurisprudence) and Tazkiyat Al-Nafs wa Al-Sulook (Islamic spiritualism).* These are the issues you will note between Sufism and Salafism as well. They affect both parties without any doubt.

[@khuram9055]

Brilliant point

[@AthariSunniTradition]

@@khuram9055 Jizak Allahu khayran. I was almost embrace this Contemporal Salafism, but I realise its issues that comes with, which of course carried by those people, then I realise something is missing [By Allah's permission], the issue concerning Islamic Fiqh, Tazkiyat Al-Nafs and Islamic (proper) etiquettes found therein, those people on the above matters I've mentioned they were seem quite weak, that where I realise that as muslims we cannot forsaken the 4 legal schools of Ahlul Sunnah wal jama'ah, regardless who we are. The 4 madhahab makes the Sunnah, Islamic commands, and the Law easier for us, as the general public we can able to learn Islamic religion step by step, principle by principles and this is the wise systematic way which all scholars of Ahlul Sunnah wal jama'ah set for us and its the best one. I've decided to take the Athari theology as my school of usool Al-Deen and Doctrine, in jurisprudence I will adhere to one of the legal schools of the 4 imams, and I'm quite happy with the Qadri school of Islamic spiritualism. Even other Athari scholars followed such path in Islamic knowledge, they learned Aqeedah, Fiqh (through 4 imams), and Spiritualism (Tasawuf/Tazkiya/Sulook). It's just that in those both branches of Islam, we need to stay keen in adherence to Authentic Islam and everything else will be fine Inn Shaa Allah.

[@umeriqbal8269]

​@@AthariSunniTradition Asalamualaikum brother, i have a sufi background too but i feel something is not right when the indian and pakistanis sufi say Ya Ghaus madad or Ya Khawaja madad, invoking help from sufi Saints who have passed away centuries ago. Some Sufi practises just puts me off as we muslims were suppose to mostly just focus on Oneness of Allah. Am i wrong in thinking like this?

[@Awliyah786]

@@umeriqbal8269you have to understand the the concept and true meaning of Madad The Necessity of Understanding Its Meaning] What is the meaning of “madad”? When you go to the scholar and say: “madad,” it means: teach me. And when you say to the wali: “madad,” it means: make a good du’a for me. And you also say: “Madad ya Rasool Allah,” meaning: Ask Allah to forgive me, oh Rasool Allah We say: “madad ya Rasool Allah,” meaning: give us your intercession and your istighfar, and that is permissible. So understand, my brother, the meaning of “madad” for it is not shirk, and understand that the meaning of “madad ya Rasool Allah” is a request for his intercession and istighfar Saying “Madad” to the Awliya who are in the Life of the Barzakh] He who has an intellect has to know the meaning of a word when he speaks it. So I am asking you: If you are hungry, and you say to your mother: “madad,” what does it mean? The meaning is: give me food. Therefore: “madad” means: give me some of what you are doing, or what you possess. A man is eating dates. If you say to him: “madad” it means: give me a date. A man is drinking water. If you say to him: “madad” it means: give me a cup. Did you understand, oh questioner? And a wali of Allah is always in dhikr of Allah and du’a. So if you say to him: “madad” it means: give me a du’a. [And a wali of Allah in the barzakh] is in dhikr of Allah in his garden of Paradise, day and night. So if you say to him: “madad ya sayyidi (so-and-so)” it means: give me a du’a. [This wali] does not have food or drink- he only has du’as that are answered. Did you understand, oh questioner? (The shaykh is referring to the hadith that the grave is either a garden from among the gardens of Paradise, or a pit from among the pits of Hell.)

[@AthariSunniTradition]

@@umeriqbal8269 jizak Allahu khayran for the wise question. These types of questions are indeed sensitive and controversial yet very important and beneficial. Their answers can be misunderstood by many of people. So bare with me and take a detailed explanation of it, May Allah make you and me among those who are sincere only for Him. Ameen.

[@montisiddique8010]

Sunni Muslims should remember all four mathhabs are accepted to be correct by scholars. Although there may be differences between them. Average Muslims aggressively opposing teachings of other mathhabs are creating animosity and divide of ummah.

[@nazirimam997]

Asala mu alaikum. I grew up in south africa and our ancestors were brought here as slaves by the British. There a a large number of Muslims who practice sufism . Going to mazaars , also they have this practice during Muharram time to go and tie strings and give milk as well as some other practises. Here they also practice celebrating the birthday of the nabi and they have mawlids , ghous paak katam. I cannot find any of these practices done by the prophet or his companions or even the 1st and 2nd generation after the passing of the nabi . We have respected aalims who push these practices as well. Meelads is this allowed ? What about going to mazaars? Also if there is anyone that can tell me a site that gives you grading of hadith and makes you see the chain of narrations please send the link. Jazakallah 😊

[@ami.o3574]

Ask a scholar, you probably won’t get a reliable answer on KZbin, and ask Allah to guide you to what is right and away from what is wrong

[@Awliyah786]

1) Milad is allowed and permitted and there is also Ijma the scholars who permit Mawlid are as follows The majority of scholars gave fatwas permitting the celebration of Maulid, amongst them: Abu Shāmah Al-Maqdisi, Ibn Kathīr, Zayn Al-Din Al-Irāqi, Ibn Jazari, Ibn Nāsir Al-Dīn Al-Dimishqi, Al-Asqalāni, Al-Sakhāwi, Al-Qastallāni. Al-Suyūti in Al-Hāwi Lil Fatāwi said: “The Maulid celebration is a good innovation for which one is rewarded, because it is to revere the Prophet’s rank ﷺ, to express joy and seek the glad tidings of his blessed birth ﷺ. Now the 2nd question are going to Mazars allowed yes loads of scholars have permitted this and loads of daleels and Allah knows best

[@nazirimam997]

@@Awliyah786 jazakallah for the answer I have done some research and I have found any bidah (innovation) is not allowed even if it seems good . This was stated by the prophet peace upon him. Also I have found many Quranic verses that states if we invoke the names of anyone besides allah (like how people who go to mazaars do )then that's Shirk . We only bow down to allah . My research has shown me the Quran and Sunnah are very strong against these cultural additions. And who is more astray than one who invokes besides Allah, such as will not answer him to the Day of Judgment, and who (in fact) are unconscious of their call (to them)? (5) And when My slaves ask you (O Muhammad SAW) concerning Me, then (answer them), I am indeed near (to them by My Knowledge). I respond to the invocations of the supplicant when he calls on Me (without any mediator or intercessor). So let them obey Me and believe in Me, so that they may be led aright. (186) O mankind! A similitude has been coined, so listen to it (carefully): Verily! Those on whom you call besides Allah, cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatched away a thing from them, they would have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought. (73) They have not estimated Allah His Rightful Estimate; Verily, Allah is All-Strong, All-Mighty. (74) Thanks… Quran is clear no name of any Saint ,no Al madad Ali ,Al madad ghous etc is allowed . To dispute this is going against the Quran and I will choose to follow what Allah has sent over any scholar .

[@Gamerplayer419]

Authentic Tasavvuf + Authentic Sunnah = Islam

[@briancordero7674]

Paul has expressed my position perfectly. Athari Aqeeda is the earliest historically speaking ,Hanbalis emphasize the importance of the Hadith sciences, while the Najdis over generalize in condemning Sufism by overlooking Tazkiya of the Soul which is the objective of Islam to enter Paradise with its people according to the Sharia. The Khalifate is wajib upon the Umma. And the modern nation states are not identical to The Umayyids and Abbasids in obedience to the secular rulers. And Modernists are the Neo Mutazila of our times.

[@TheTruth247TV]

There’s only one group that’s on the right path. You can pick what you want but not everyone is correct.

[@behtereen4187]

JazakaAllah ❤❤❤ Narrated Buraida: The Prophet (ﷺ) sent `Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the loot/booty) and I hated `Ali, and `ALI had taken a bath (AFTER A SEXUAL ACT WITH A SLAVE-GIRL from the Khumus.) I said to Khalid, "Don't you see this (i.e. `Ali)?" When we reached the Prophet (ﷺ) I mentioned that to him. He said, "O Buraida! Do you hate `Ali?" I said, "Yes." He said, "Do you hate him, for HE DESERVES MORE THAN THAT FROM THE KHUMUS." Classification: Authentic Sahih Sahih al-Bukhari 4350 This highly spiritual episode took place when Hadrat Fathima RA, the holiest of the ladies of Islam the wife of Hadrat Ali RA, was still alive. Alhamdolillah Hadrat Ali RA, a great ASCETIC who truly loved his wife Hadrat Fathima RA, was SEXUALLY ENJOYING a PRISONER of WAR with the FULL APPROVAL 👌 of her FATHER the HOLY PROPHET pubh. MashaAllah. May Allah SWT give us the opportunity to follow in the footsteps of the Holy Akabarin-e-Islam. May we also one day collect taxes like Hadrat Ali RA. Ameen soum Ameen ❤🙏 sunnahdotcom/bukhari:4350 Place . between sunnah and com to read the original in Arabic. JazakaAllah

[@Muhammad-gu8kv]

Alhmdullah for being shia upon the true Islam not upon the falsehood of Sunnism with all it's cults

[@Iamfsaly]

Same as my view I appreciate all scholars but I hate the ones who go against clear verses from the Quran

[@behtereen4187]

JazakaAllah ❤❤❤ Narrated Buraida: The Prophet (ﷺ) sent `Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the loot/booty) and I hated `Ali, and `ALI had taken a bath (AFTER A SEXUAL ACT WITH A SLAVE-GIRL from the Khumus.) I said to Khalid, "Don't you see this (i.e. `Ali)?" When we reached the Prophet (ﷺ) I mentioned that to him. He said, "O Buraida! Do you hate `Ali?" I said, "Yes." He said, "Do you hate him, for HE DESERVES MORE THAN THAT FROM THE KHUMUS." Classification: Authentic Sahih Sahih al-Bukhari 4350 This highly spiritual episode took place when Hadrat Fathima RA, the holiest of the ladies of Islam the wife of Hadrat Ali RA, was still alive. Alhamdolillah Hadrat Ali RA, a great ASCETIC who truly loved his wife Hadrat Fathima RA, was SEXUALLY ENJOYING a PRISONER of WAR with the FULL APPROVAL 👌 of her FATHER the HOLY PROPHET pubh. MashaAllah. May Allah SWT give us the opportunity to follow in the footsteps of the Holy Akabarin-e-Islam. May we also one day collect taxes like Hadrat Ali RA. Ameen soum Ameen ❤🙏 sunnahdotcom/bukhari:4350 Place . between sunnah and com to read the original in Arabic. JazakaAllah

[@razamughal4582]

@@behtereen4187 see a psychiatrist

[@AbyazAbdullah]

An interesting point too is that I have never met anyone who identifies as a wahabi but seen many accusing others of being one. No one what's to be seen as a wahabi but many want to point at someone who they think is wahabi...strange!

[@n.a.1397]

The followers of ibn Abdul Wahab from Najd are called this because of their extreme takfiri views, cooperation with Saud and lack of knowledge.

[@AbyazAbdullah]

@@n.a.1397 it’s still strange, a Sufi will say they’re a Sufi , a Shia will say they’re Shia , a Sunni will say they’re Sunni , but you’ll never have a wahabi say they’re wahabi , who ever that is, more of an insult than an actual sect

[@jahangirkhatri2880]

​@@AbyazAbdullah they don't use the term wahabbi. Usually refer to themselves as salafis. Wahabbi term is used as a slur nowadays by the other groups

[@AbyazAbdullah]

@@jahangirkhatri2880 yes I'm aware of this

[@jahangirkhatri2880]

@@AbyazAbdullah yeah so I'm replying to your questions. They identify themselves and call themselves salafi

[@mrsolo2859]

Follow the Holy Quran and the authentic Hadiths that’s the true path. Simple as that.

[@aminahbergliotrolsdorph7557]

Yes ❣️ الحمد لله..

[@newomhk]

someone send this to jake the muslim metaphyscian

[@salmaz315]

الأستاذ المبارك رحمه الله كان يدعو إلى تسليف التصوف و تصويف السلفية.

[@glamcrafts5141]

Assalaamualaikum, Jzkl KHAIR, I totally agree with the Sheik , as Muslims we have so much that Unites us , yet we look for issues that can divide us

[@RAGSTAluvsDA90z]

You either learn from Ramdham Bouti or Albani, you either learn from Ata’illah Al-Iskandari or Ibn Taymiyya, you will know who wahabiSalafis in line with

[@riazcarmali5413]

Bi Idhnil LLAAHI TA'ALA, A Sufi, a Shia, a Sunni, a Salafi, an Ismaili, all of them must be first and foremost, Muslims, True Monotheists (Hanif) and ascribe no partners to ALLAH SUBHANA HU. Once this is established in one's heart, then one will see that there are no Theological differences between all these Schools, In Shaa ALLAH. We all are petals from the same flower, to use one of Allama Muhammad Iqbal's sentences. Now, Muslims must read the Holy Qurán primarily in one's own language. Allama Muhammad Iqbal said: "There is no point on reading 100 thousand Islamic Books if one does not read the Holy Qurán primarily in one's own language and abide by It's teachings." Shah Waliyyullah Dehlavi said something similar, centuries before Iqbal. And so have said many Sufi and Non Sufi Muslims throughout our History.

[@MohammedAlSharif2002]

What does he mean by Salafis dismissing Sufism? He says he agrees with purification of the soul aspect of Sufism, but what Salafi disagrees with this?

[@dannish2000]

The opposite of salafism is sufism, they both kind of hate each other and call each other kafir, depending on where in the world this happens. Salafis follow things literally and sufism has a lot of symbolism in it. Sufism focuses on the inner in a human bieng and salafism is more focused on the outer aspact of a human being Salafism is very straight forward Sufism is not so straight forward and more open for interpretation

[@MohammedAlSharif2002]

@@dannish2000 I’m a Salafi and left me tell you that you’re 100% wrong. Salafiyyah focuses on the inner and outer aspect of the human being. Sufis focus on grave worshipping, acts of Bidah, and Khurafat.

[@dannish2000]

@@MohammedAlSharif2002 brother, I am saying this without taking a side and without belonging to a side. Even athiests say that their thing whatever it is, that their way of life focuses on both inner and outer aspact. Everyone wants to have balance. You are doing just that. Your way of explaining sufism is like someone would say that salafism is same as Isis.

[@MohammedAlSharif2002]

@@dannish2000 the prophet ﷺ said the Ummah will divide into 73 sects. Everyone is part of a sect so everyone is on a side in some sense. Everyone establishes limits based on where they draw the line regarding orthodoxy. The only difference between those who use labels like Salafis or Ash’aris and those that don’t is that those who use labels are more explicit in what they believe in. Also, what is Sufism according to you?

[@nbarr318]

@@MohammedAlSharif2002 It's so obvious the only things you've learnt about sufism is from salafis

[@Imran.Ali786]

I used to think Dr Shadee and Imam Facchine were the same person 😂

[@neilien3317]

first!1!1!

[@ABDULRAHMAN-rd4or]

Second 😡

[@luigi64gamer19]

Third

[@nebulasings5862]

Fourth

[@Sa7biUK]

Homosexuality is haram people. Stop this 1st 2nd 3rd nonsense

[@stones117]

Make Allah make from among the first peoples of Jannah

[@mkhan9227]

All 4 imams wer athari. Khalaas

[@FactsWithActs]

والله إنكم قلتم الحق

[@azaniastateofmind]

What's your evidence for this claim?

[@newgame8149]

But if they weren't atharis also they aren't ashaari and maturdies ashaaries and maturidies started in the 4th century so how can the imams be anything other than atharis ? ​@azaniastateofmind

[@SafaAl-Daffaee-v9x]

Salafis believe God has fingers and a foot. This is not Islam

[@innercitadel3279]

Not literally

[@aj3706]

The Quran is literal until proven otherwise, the Sahaba when told Allah swt has a face for example, they didn’t say what do you mean with a face etc. they understood it by face value aka literal. This metaphor and symbolism is not always correct way to interpret the Quran, Muslims that cnt read Arabic especially Classical Arabic and don’t know the roots and traditions are telling us “How can Allah swt have a foot or hand, isn’t that comparing him to his creation” my question to you is that question is invalid because did the sahaba ever ask that question “NO” which means you question is nonsensical and based on philosophical baggage If you disagree come with evidence of the contrary if not don’t deny or change the meaning of the Quran to fit you limited mind

[@Ghiyassudin]

@@aj3706 Taking by the apparent isn’t equivalent to taking it literally. There are many verses in the Quran you will not take literally. For example The Quran states: “Indeed, ˹it is˺ We ˹Who˺ created humankind and ˹fully˺ know what their souls whisper to them, and We are closer to them than ˹their˺ jugular vein.” -Quran 50:16 It also states: “O believers! Respond to Allah and His Messenger when he calls you to that which gives you life. And know that Allah stands between a person and their heart, and that to Him you will all be gathered.” -Quran 8:24 “To Allah belong the east and the west, so wherever you turn you are facing ˹towards˺ Allah. Surely Allah is All-Encompassing,All-Knowing.” Quran 2:115.

[@aj3706]

@@Ghiyassudin fair enough brother, but Are You telling me when it says «Hand» it always refers to power, and likewise for face etc. We need evidence for that, thats all WHAT im saying

[@Al-Azdi]

@@aj3706 The evidence is in learning Arabic, and knowing Jahili era Arabic that the Prophet ﷺ talked and his sahaba, it’s the most metaphor using language in the world.

[@zaidali651]

I am salfi and follower of only Quran Ahades, and love ahle bait more then my life

[@abdellatifaitbihi1774]

No hypocrisy. only Ahlu Sunnah r muslims

[@TTS526]

Only one right path. Ahle sunnat wa Jammat. AKA Sufism. If you can’t track back your path to Allah’s beloved (sallalahu alaihi wassalam) then how can you say you’re on right path???? Salafism or wahabism or other sect didn’t even exist before 200 years ago. Please study history everyone. You must able track the rightly guided people from 1400 years period!!!!

[@FactsWithActs]

Imam Ahmad was 200 years ago? 😂😂

[@thamama-rh5oe]

I don't wanna be salafi in my life ever because they've demolished the blessed Graves of the companions of Prophet And the do takfir of blessed Mother and father of Prophet Muhammad They Cleebrate Christmas and their national day but don't regard it as innovation at the same time Regard Mawlid of Nabi As a innovation

[@marzenr]

source please?

[@aquaisnotades]

1. Building structures on top of graves is haram. Because of this we demolish structures on top of graves and not the graves themselves 2. This has been the position of many many scholars, some of them you take as your own 3. We don’t celebrate christmas, national day, or mawlid - they are all bid’at

[@aj3706]

The prophet pbuh wanted to make dua for his mother in one narration, Allah swt told him he is not allowed to do so for someone that died as an non believer. Do you even know your religion sir/ma’am wallah we have become ignorant and less knowledgeable of our religion and talk with so much pride, don’t speak without knowledge you will be standing before Allah swt one day May Allah swt protect us, people don’t even know the seerah of the prophet pbuh truly SMH

[@alaminlemu]

The mother and father of Rasulullah ﷺ never accepted Islam. There is no way they were Muslims, and if you were from ahlus Sunnah, you would know and accept the ahadith where the Prophet ﷺ says clearly that they are not Muslims. This is the issue with excessive praise of the Prophet ﷺ that Sufis indulge in, to the extent of fabricating or believing false things about him. Allah is just, and no one is given a higher status just for being related to Rasulullah ﷺ. This is evident in the Qur'an. Abu lahab was the direct uncle of the Prophet ﷺ, and he was cursed in the Qur'an. Abu Talib, his uncle again, took care of Rasulullah ﷺ since he was a child until even after prophethood, until his death, but since he didn't accept Islam, he is in the Hellfire. Use facts not emotions in matters of religion.

[@thamama-rh5oe]

@@aj3706 at that time sharia was not given to our prophet so how can you say that

[@sabbuofggh1629]

Alhumdallah for the Salafi people bringing back evidence based

[@MBeats27]

When did he say sufiism isn't based on evidence

[@SafaAl-Daffaee-v9x]

Salafis believe God has fingers and a foot ! Crazy Aqeeda

[@AzizRahman1]

@@SafaAl-Daffaee-v9xThey don’t “believe” that. They just affirm what is in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and there are ahadeeth that mention that Allaah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) has fingers, eyes, a shin etc. I'm not even Salafi anymore (Alhamdulillah I'm studying the Maliki madhhab now), but we need to be just.

[@lawlietlawliet]

​@@AzizRahman1 and that's exactly the problem with your salafi understanding of Quran and Sunnah. You look at scripture superficially and pretend that God has body parts. Which is CRAZY.

[@AzizRahman1]

@@lawlietlawliet First of all, you clearly missed the part where I said I wasn't Salafi. Secondly, if you have an issue with the "Salafi understanding of Qur'aan and Sunnah", don't take it up with me. Take it up with the ahadeeth of our Messenger (sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) that clearly state these things.

[@j.r.r.tolkien8724]

Salafism made me leave Islam. Ashari scholars gave me reasons to come back.

[@soroschn]

@@j.r.r.tolkien8724 What in Salafism made you leave islam?