Blood Incantation Sucks. Here’s Why.

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@stephenfeister1176
@stephenfeister1176 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who says Chuck Schuldiener is a terrible songwriter is not worthy of criticizing anyone
@Unleashedraider1985
@Unleashedraider1985 Жыл бұрын
Fuckin right!!!
@rudolfantlerofficial
@rudolfantlerofficial Жыл бұрын
Nah. I like some of Death's stuff but Chuck's songwriting skills was pretty bad, especially on the later stuff. Technical bells and whistles with little of substance.
@seanmcmillin3081
@seanmcmillin3081 Жыл бұрын
@@rudolfantlerofficial I think that’s really only true for Sound of Perseverance, which was mostly made up of stuff that was supposed to be for Chuck’s new band Control Denied but was spruced up with some death metal trappings for a new Death album due to label pressure. It’s not really a surprise it sounds more cobbled together considering those factors, and Symbolic sounds a lot more natural even though it’s not my favorite Death album
@markcooperartcomofficial
@markcooperartcomofficial Жыл бұрын
Chuck wasn't that great. He just didn't suck as bad as most of you.
@sadboi7537
@sadboi7537 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who rips on Death clearly doesn’t like metal, no matter what genre.
@couleurlourde3352
@couleurlourde3352 Жыл бұрын
"I'm not a verry music theory focus musician " then proceed to tell what belongs or not in a song Beautiful!
@jamiemay8546
@jamiemay8546 7 ай бұрын
Well well I happen to be an expert in music theory. And there is no rules and I don't know who the hell ever said there was. It's just a musical map. In Vivaldi's The four seasons in one of the solos there is a violin soloing and then another violin doing the same solo only one fret up. That is stuff like necrovore does. And it's more than reasonably easy to notate. By using what's called accidentals. But there is nothing in music theory that technically breaks any rules because there are none. A lot of times you can come up with the greatest stuff by notating before even playing something.
@couleurlourde3352
@couleurlourde3352 7 ай бұрын
@jamiemay8546 music theory is a tool and a vocabulary to understand and be understand by other musicians
@burninhell94
@burninhell94 Жыл бұрын
If this is a troll it’s fucking hilarious lmao
@Jack-pp2ng
@Jack-pp2ng Жыл бұрын
It has to be this is too good
@keithdawe8521
@keithdawe8521 Жыл бұрын
Nocturnus - The Key
@OvergrownWithTheMoss
@OvergrownWithTheMoss Жыл бұрын
The fact that this guy thinks an exercise can’t be a riff just is a tell all by the get go. This guy is either just very musically immature or just hasn’t gotten out much in the music world, which is odd because Blood Incantation is a pretty underground band to mainstream listeners. Bands with exercises as riffs: Periphery, Racer X, Paganinis 5th Capris, etc. I’m starting to realize that an exercise isn’t even supposed to be as simple as the first riff that BI plays on Starspawn. An exercise can be the riffs on Dust In The Wind by Kansas or the Creeping Death Riff by Metallica, to Demiruge by Meshuggah, to Bleed by Meshuggah. Exercises can be riffs whether you like it or not. Music has no rules. I stand my ground.
@quack2thesequel
@quack2thesequel Жыл бұрын
It can't
@gordonburchell4337
@gordonburchell4337 Жыл бұрын
Yes as a musician my self this guy is talking a bunch of nonsense lol
@quack2thesequel
@quack2thesequel Жыл бұрын
@@gordonburchell4337 I'm an artist, I do,'t play instruments, but even in visuala rt, art cannot be you doing excercises for roactice and oresentig it as art.
@widepeepohappy820
@widepeepohappy820 Жыл бұрын
The fact that your hate and insecurity speaks so loudly that you feel the need to make an video about why a beloved underground band sucks as if music is some sort of science. Maybe the fact that they can use an exercise as a riff is what makes them a talented band and you a hater. Music is art and art in itself dictates that anything can be art there is no limit. I dont know what makes you the athourity of music but I would sure give you that title in terms of jealous hater
@genericname9875
@genericname9875 Жыл бұрын
All those bands and songs suck so we found the cause at least
@MetalHendrix.
@MetalHendrix. Жыл бұрын
Blood Incantation is on Tour with Gorguts and Cannibal Corpse, You are on KZbin.
@Livingstonesmusic
@Livingstonesmusic 2 ай бұрын
Excellent point this guy is a dork lol
@KINKYmustache
@KINKYmustache 2 ай бұрын
This means they have a good marketing team. Stop resorting to this retarded argument. He is sharing an opinion.
@arthurmello1641
@arthurmello1641 2 күн бұрын
That comment was intelligent
@nickshades6727
@nickshades6727 Жыл бұрын
This band will always have a dedicated fan base that will continue to support them and gain more fans, no matter how many elitists don't like them. Also, Chuck Schuldiner's worst song is better than anything you've ever accomplished. All you did with your life was become the "actually" guy meme.
@johnathonmckenzie7148
@johnathonmckenzie7148 Жыл бұрын
Blood Incantation will do their "kill a cop" far earlier in their career than morbid Angel did. I believe you will continue to applaud them with true dedication.
@victors4786
@victors4786 Жыл бұрын
Who hurt you? Haha
@raakareiska9804
@raakareiska9804 Жыл бұрын
Butthurt intensifies. Even Lil Wayne has dedicated fan base. Does that mean its fucking great musicianship? Most retarded arguments ever
@Abolishedbandro
@Abolishedbandro Жыл бұрын
Yeah keep supporting weed metal lmao
@3SCAPER00M13
@3SCAPER00M13 Жыл бұрын
@@Abolishedbandro "Weed Metal"? They're not stoner metal or doom metal, they're death metal.
@OvergrownWithTheMoss
@OvergrownWithTheMoss Жыл бұрын
This dude just judged a band based on the timing they take in between songs. Dude you can’t make this shit up even if you tried this guy is fucking hilarious 😂!😂😂😂😂😂
@Jack-pp2ng
@Jack-pp2ng Жыл бұрын
"That is not not a riff that is an exercise" lmfao there's no way this guy isn't trolling
@Bythelightofthecresikmoon
@Bythelightofthecresikmoon Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 my mind is blown right now
@markcooperartcomofficial
@markcooperartcomofficial Жыл бұрын
That's cause you're not very smart.
@chromegnats
@chromegnats Жыл бұрын
I thought so too initially but, sad to say, he is totally serious… he is also seems totally miserable. Even listening to the way his brain works is extremely exhausting so I can fully see why. I actually feel bad for him to be completely honest.
@stephenfeister1176
@stephenfeister1176 Жыл бұрын
The main riff from ‘Sweet Child O’ Mine’ was originally an exercise btw
@heelstevenmaggle5615
@heelstevenmaggle5615 Жыл бұрын
And that riff fucking blows.
@RadicalizedRadical
@RadicalizedRadical 10 ай бұрын
@@heelstevenmaggle5615one of the most famous and long lasting riffs to exist. But the slam incel says it blows LOL
@chadherring2790
@chadherring2790 9 ай бұрын
So was life in the fast lane
@vladtheinhaler8476
@vladtheinhaler8476 8 ай бұрын
Intro to killing spree by death, was just a finger exercise James Murphy played at a rehearsal.
@kattmazi1934
@kattmazi1934 Ай бұрын
Master of puppets intro riffs were also exercises
@joona1386
@joona1386 Жыл бұрын
Bro think he the dm doctor 💀💀
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers Жыл бұрын
Honestly, he's not wrong. This is one of the only channels I've seen that attempts to hold Death Metal to the standards of an art form.
@stantorren4400
@stantorren4400 Жыл бұрын
@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCoversThe guy’s head is so deep up his arse he lost his hair
@Vordb666
@Vordb666 10 ай бұрын
art is whatever you want it to be, genres aren’t real, anyone can write and play whatever they want
@th3in3rmountingflam3
@th3in3rmountingflam3 Жыл бұрын
would love to hear your critiqe on Vitriol
@OvergrownWithTheMoss
@OvergrownWithTheMoss Жыл бұрын
This guy said the beginning of the song made him angry haha. What a nerd
@amysarg
@amysarg Жыл бұрын
This is such a disappointing exercise in espousing closed mindedness. Your entire interpretation is based around preconceptions of what a genre should be, what a song should do, what players should play. Just let art be art.
@noz_redna
@noz_redna Жыл бұрын
When I hear "Sci Fi" death metal... I always think of Pestilence "Spheres"... which I liked. That is all.
@noz_redna
@noz_redna Жыл бұрын
@eric demoniacx Yeah I thought about that when I watched the tech Death video.
@europeanian4205
@europeanian4205 Жыл бұрын
The Faceless for me
@orez718
@orez718 Жыл бұрын
timeghoul is also great
@noz_redna
@noz_redna Жыл бұрын
@@orez718 haven’t heard of them. Which release should I check out?
@orez718
@orez718 Жыл бұрын
@@noz_redna the 1992-1994 compilation. unfortunately they were very short lived as a band and released only two demos comprised of a total of six songs which can all be found in the compilation that lasts under an hour long. i highly recommend though since they are very atmospheric and having songwriting skills good enough to be technical without being too over the top
@Triiplesiix
@Triiplesiix 10 ай бұрын
Who cares if it’s something considered “an exercise” lol if it sounds good..and someone made it into a song and people like it…it’s good it’s art and it is music…regardless if it’s considered a riff or not.
@SocietyOfOne
@SocietyOfOne 10 ай бұрын
You know what sucks? The volume on this video.
@jasonhopkins1584
@jasonhopkins1584 Жыл бұрын
"Has to..." "Needs to..." Seems more like you'd "prefer it if" rather than anything else. These are creative choices, man, and you have preferences. I get it. But your arguments for why they suck (as well as the fans who like them) is hardly compelling.
@Noetic-Necrognosis
@Noetic-Necrognosis 8 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s just my preference to listen to a coherently structured track. Some people prefer random disconnected riffs with no unifying identity or direction. It’s just different tastes bro
@robertcross9010
@robertcross9010 Жыл бұрын
Everything can’t be Five Finger Death punch my guy. I’d also love to hear anything you ever did.
@jeremyyamma4364
@jeremyyamma4364 Жыл бұрын
Lol 5 Dinger is total trash! Metal for and by cops!
@quochuynguyen764
@quochuynguyen764 11 ай бұрын
Ara - Jurisprudence
@Livingstonesmusic
@Livingstonesmusic 2 ай бұрын
Yes I know that’s his favorite band he’s a loser
@Brokout
@Brokout Жыл бұрын
If a band’s riffs are completely interchangeable, ie; riffs from Song A could be used in Song B with no real difference to the tone or structure then there is something wrong. Could you imagine the ghostly breakdown in Chapel of Ghouls being used in Lord of all Fevers and Plagues? Parts should be utterly integral to each piece of music, it’s what makes a song truly cohesive and not just a random collection of disparate ideas.
@cortarelva
@cortarelva Жыл бұрын
Bull shit.
@Haxprocess
@Haxprocess 11 ай бұрын
​@cortarelva how is what he said incorrect in anyway? So you believe the breakdown of Chapel of Ghouls would work in Lord of All Fevers and Plague???
@RadicalizedRadical
@RadicalizedRadical 10 ай бұрын
This is so wrong lmao. You can take so many riffs from any song in RIB and put it to other songs easily. But this albums is considered to be one of the goat thrash metal albums?
@Vordb666
@Vordb666 10 ай бұрын
anything can be whatever you want it to be
@Noetic-Necrognosis
@Noetic-Necrognosis 8 ай бұрын
@@Vordb666 i want music to be coherent and meaningfully structured
@nickthegod468
@nickthegod468 Жыл бұрын
Exactly there are rules that you must follow when making a song. Music is not a place for creativity and expression it’s a place where everyone must follow a simple set of rules and if you break them then it’s not music OBVIOUSLY. Using a exercise in a song and not a riff = not music. 😎🤓
@flavortown5124
@flavortown5124 2 ай бұрын
Drop tuning is not death metal...unless you're these death metal bands. Inspirational
@wifi4baby416
@wifi4baby416 Ай бұрын
"there was no relation there at all they went from a fast repetitive scaler thing i think they moved it up an octave to give the illusion of some kind of motion there and they went into this power chord thing that's in a drop tuning" awesome critique
@paulvalery9778
@paulvalery9778 11 ай бұрын
This is just a repeat of Deafheaven and how butthurt it made some kvlt metal fans.
@nowimpsnoposers
@nowimpsnoposers 9 ай бұрын
Deafheaven still sucks
@Noetic-Necrognosis
@Noetic-Necrognosis 8 ай бұрын
Yeah and both bands suck go figure
@antp007gaming
@antp007gaming 9 күн бұрын
Also I have to give it to bro because 3:34 is actually true and that seperate new metal from old. I did get that feeling a few times frim some songs yet that us oart if the beauty for me. Mikeal from Opeth said in a recent interview that he sometimes make dumb riff between complex riff. There is an effect when you out two opposite close to each other as they emphasize the difference even further. While I agree that they do yet I think thats why it works fusing the new metal and old metal style. But am gonna watch the whole thing. The bad thing would be uf they do commit with that "gimmick" but even then its all about the way you do it, how it sounds and the overall context. I mean most old and probably some of the new Animals As Leaders songs started out as an exercise so nothing wrong with ßuilding off of that
@duncefunce1513
@duncefunce1513 2 ай бұрын
My son's autistic, this might be an avenue for him when he grows up. Thank you for shining a light.
@noz_redna
@noz_redna Жыл бұрын
I think that there are two types of listeners - musicians and non-musicians. And they hear and see things differently. I'm kind of in between, but I like simplicity if I feel it and it sounds good. It doesn't matter to me the technicality. When I hear this band, I just hear early 90's death and grind. There were so many bands like this back then.
@adamgr97
@adamgr97 Жыл бұрын
And then theres people that absolutely need attention to the point of contradicting popular belief for views. Throwing shade or not, as long as the video gets attention and gets you to click on the video, people like this will continue making content. Also Blood Incantation is rad as fuck and its all subjective what SOUNDS feel good in your ears. I just so happen to like good music
@chromegnats
@chromegnats Жыл бұрын
Imagine just enjoying things… couldn’t be this guy in the video!
@chromegnats
@chromegnats Жыл бұрын
@@adamgr97whole heartedly agree. This dude is miserable and contrary for the sake of attention in most cases. Exhausting to listen to/watch. Just ran into his account today and I initially thought it was a “troll” account and he was trying to be funny but turns out he isn’t funny at all.
@antp007gaming
@antp007gaming 9 күн бұрын
After watching the whole video, I think bro speaks the truth. 'Absolute Elsewhere' album sound great to me even though I do hear a few if these points mentioned un there. To me the genre blending makes it forgiving and I absolutely enjoyed the 'pilgrim' aspects or vibe change. Will check out the bands mentioned Thanks a bunch mate
@itsaghoul
@itsaghoul Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy the band and I think it’s great to hear a different structured opinion on the band. If y’all got offended by this vid step out the echo chamber
@RadicalizedRadical
@RadicalizedRadical 10 ай бұрын
There’s literally nothing wrong with saying you don’t like BI and that they’re thrash. This isn’t why this guy has one of the most ratioed videos on KZbin. It’s his insane music immaturity and wrong takes on why he doesn’t like them. Baldie said Chuck was a terrible songwriter LMAO. Who? A useless baldie that can’t even play an instrument. And you think his opinion in music matters at all? 🤣🤣
@zachrisser6789
@zachrisser6789 Жыл бұрын
“I don’t know what the mood is” brother it’s fuckin death metal the mood is drink beers and smash things
@JBguitar-cj8pc
@JBguitar-cj8pc Жыл бұрын
It’s better than hearing these tech death bands do boring sweeps over and over 🤷‍♂️ and it’s way better than anything we hear from the lame ass deathcore and slam bands too.
@randomwhitekid666
@randomwhitekid666 11 ай бұрын
*drop tuning is not death metal?* Are you really going to pigeon hole metal bands based on their tuning preference? That's some crazy rigid beliefs. I bet your version of a death metal playlist wouldn't be boring at all! 😉
@kattmazi1934
@kattmazi1934 Ай бұрын
I know right? I've found the only dorks that even care if a tuning is in drop or standard don't even play guitar or engage in writing.
@ArtificialBrain414
@ArtificialBrain414 Жыл бұрын
This guy probably doesnt like opeth.
@Poser_Metal_Records
@Poser_Metal_Records Жыл бұрын
Blowpeth
@andtuningforall4957
@andtuningforall4957 6 ай бұрын
He said he likes everything until and including ghost reveries probably
@TimmyTurner421
@TimmyTurner421 2 ай бұрын
This guy is such a massive troll
@jordanvokolek3376
@jordanvokolek3376 Жыл бұрын
Imo approaching Metal from this overly objective mind set is what is killing the genre. If it sounds good, it is good. Idc if the riff can be used as an exercise.
@OvergrownWithTheMoss
@OvergrownWithTheMoss Жыл бұрын
He then dug his grave even deeper by saying that his ability to discern between two different songs is non existent. Haha. I’m getting a kick out of this video. Seriously. This is gold lmao
@Livingstonesmusic
@Livingstonesmusic 2 ай бұрын
He is true primitive man 🙊 😝
@asdasfdasfasdafs
@asdasfdasfasdafs Ай бұрын
Nothing to do with this video, but I'd like to know what this guy listens to. He seems to dislike almost everything. Does he have a list of album recommendations anywhere?
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 15 күн бұрын
He often mentions Anata favourably, and has a video called 'The Betrayed Ideals of Tech Death' where he gives some recommendations. Check it out.
@mariacarmona5867
@mariacarmona5867 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣the funniest part of this video is u saying ur band does everything better lmaoooo
@heelstevenmaggle5615
@heelstevenmaggle5615 Жыл бұрын
I don’t even really like his band but at least the songs are coherent and aren’t just boring riff salad like Blood Incantation.
@ZadoktheChernabog
@ZadoktheChernabog Жыл бұрын
Sucks to be a contrarian troll. Obviously it gets attention
@3SCAPER00M13
@3SCAPER00M13 Жыл бұрын
I like this band a lot, but you have yourself a good day.
@edgarmartinez2501
@edgarmartinez2501 Жыл бұрын
Where can we hear this guys own music?
@ColeDeBeers.
@ColeDeBeers. Жыл бұрын
You can't. He still lives at home. Sucking his aging parents dry.
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers Жыл бұрын
Ara "Jurisprudence"
@wojciechyskawa9024
@wojciechyskawa9024 2 ай бұрын
@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 1 monthly listener on spotify and that's propably him lol
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 2 ай бұрын
​@@wojciechyskawa9024 Popularity is no measure of quality. If you care about that stuff though, then their previous album 'Devourer of Worlds' got some good reviews on Metallum. I also recommend Deorbit - 'Retrogradient', which is a more recent release.
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 2 ай бұрын
@@wojciechyskawa9024 Popularity is not a good measure of quality.
@cluppi4491
@cluppi4491 Жыл бұрын
I love metal because of how goofy and strange it is, most metal sucks but I have to say I love Blood Incantation, the riffs sound good, the art is good, looking forward to getting their new single very much.
@crimsonstudios680
@crimsonstudios680 Жыл бұрын
Just saw them Live! They were awesome and everyone in the crowd dug them. I got their new single on vinyl and with a poster of the cover art for $25, which was an awesome fuckin' price!
@cluppi4491
@cluppi4491 Жыл бұрын
I watched some interviews after watching this video and they are doing really well as a band, their prog synth record sold more copies than their last metal record, creativity is in full health here.
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 15 күн бұрын
That's sort of his point - they're a Metal band for people who don't like the genre. People are attracted to the window dressing and eccentricities rather than the Metal songwriting.
@haydengripesmanecrisp1434
@haydengripesmanecrisp1434 Жыл бұрын
some people should be allowed to have opinions. you are one of those people.
@mikehachey9791
@mikehachey9791 Жыл бұрын
A friends band once played with them and they unsolicitedly told this friend that they more or less were posers because they didn’t LOOK metal. Maybe the band is autistic idk. First release of theirs was sick. Second didn’t hit as hard, still had cool parts. Anyone who disses Chuck like that is definitely reaching which kinda gives you an idea of what they must be like. “Different”. Elitists that don’t think they’re elitists, lol.
@janparadowski4894
@janparadowski4894 Жыл бұрын
Nah, fuck this. I like aliens, I like riffs, I like progressive death metal. Blood Incantation good.
@heelstevenmaggle5615
@heelstevenmaggle5615 Жыл бұрын
There’s other bands that do that and do it better than Blood Incantation. The same year BI released that shitty alien album, Nocturnus A.D. released its worthy follow up to The Key.
@lukino666
@lukino666 9 ай бұрын
You sound very reddit
@spacecadet8843
@spacecadet8843 Жыл бұрын
23:40 you say this band toured with immolation “idk how”. Bro, immolation’s not even the same either. They obviously wanna make mainstream music but don’t take it all the way.
@heelstevenmaggle5615
@heelstevenmaggle5615 Жыл бұрын
It’s sad how hard Immolation fell after Unholy Cult.
@Abolishedbandro
@Abolishedbandro Жыл бұрын
@@heelstevenmaggle5615 after 2010 Immolation started to sink for real, but Unholy Cult was their last good record indeed
@heelstevenmaggle5615
@heelstevenmaggle5615 Жыл бұрын
@@Abolishedbandro Harnessing Ruin is really bad honestly. A few good riffs but other than that there’s almost nothing worthwhile about it. Even Ross Dolan doesn’t sound good on it.
@deadguy29
@deadguy29 Жыл бұрын
Blood Incantation is a great band, and the other projects they are involved in like Black Curse and Spectral Voice are awesome too. This futile, absurd exercise of over analyzing songs is just hilarious, just say you don't like the band instead of trying to sound deep and intelligent (which btw you come up as the opposite).
@sethputnamsghost
@sethputnamsghost Жыл бұрын
Morbid Angel was on Adult Swim before too.🤘
@putrescentvermin
@putrescentvermin 7 ай бұрын
Dying Fetus too!
@jacobgordon4325
@jacobgordon4325 Жыл бұрын
What is his band called?
@michaelcalleo292
@michaelcalleo292 Жыл бұрын
Thiz iz a stoner band ... I dont think the band iz making a conscious decision to use practice riffs ... its just something that they do because thats how they play and comes natural to them. I actually have no problem with the song writing structure. I guess its all about what you like to listen to. 🤔🤷‍♂️
@downcode
@downcode Жыл бұрын
Part of what you said I agree with, part not, but man, the album cover thing really sucks imo... Bruce Pennington is an amazing artist & paying for a license is probably cheaper than having someone make some original work... idk... Most of the "retro" metal bands are kind of lame because they're just a hodgepodge of their influences - they don't have a cohesive & unique style. It's really hard to find your voice - but if you play the nostalgia card you'll get more listeners & stuff...idk. On the positive - I really enjoyed this 2023 record: Haxprocess - The Caverns of Duat. They're younger guys & play very well, also their cover art was originally made for them afaik :D check em out ;) (fun fact - the album was produced & recorded in the same studio that Blood Incantation went to, which I think makes awesome sounding records production wise)
@dudewhat4434
@dudewhat4434 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a really good critique, but my simple unga-bunga brain makes me really enjoy these guys, at least for now. Also, huge props to you for mentioning Timeghoul. Their music slaps me right into the crypt and I love it.
@tedfeast
@tedfeast Жыл бұрын
Fish tank live had several death metal bands play
@jamesborg6410
@jamesborg6410 8 ай бұрын
I saw these dudes live and it was incredible. There was no rock-stardom bs that we see in a lot of up & coming bands that get some traction; they're just some very lovely, nerdy metal heads. They play as it's just second nature. Even the solos don't feel self-indulgent. As a whole I would compare; not their sound but more of a general aesthetic of the band and their lyrics to a band like Mastadon for the way each song is like a journey for lack of a better word. They're fun live, they have no intention of being "cool" - they bring a wholesome & considerate crowd together as a heavy metal celebration of sci-fi, metal nerds alike. Also to then come out with 'Timewave Zero' proving they truly do not care about popularity or being impressive as it's a fairly straight forward instrumental album you can sleep or study to. THEN to just drop 'Luminescent Bridge' which is a whole step into an even more exciting direction... Fair enough if you're not a fan but these dude are just having fun, making fun music that feels like it connects with outcasts like me who don't quite fit the "cool guy bro metal" that seems so popular these days.
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers Жыл бұрын
Respect for re-uploading these. Your videos presented some criticisms of Metal songwriting and conventions which caused me to rethink my own songwriting and grow as a musician. I'm more attentive to melodic development and streamlining how the different parts of a song fit together now. Many people aren't ready to hear what you have to say (and some of it does come across as a little critical/contrary for the sake of it), but there's some genuine gold here if people are willing to put their initial annoyance aside and listen. Thanks dude! Keep doing your thing.
@OvergrownWithTheMoss
@OvergrownWithTheMoss Жыл бұрын
This guy is not a god. He’s not a music teacher. Music is what you like. Please don’t create songs that “streamline” properly just because he told you to. There are many bands and musicians inducing OLD musicians that make unconventional music for the sake of music.
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers Жыл бұрын
@@OvergrownWithTheMoss A god? I don't know where you're coming from dude, but it's sure not based on anything I said.
@OvergrownWithTheMoss
@OvergrownWithTheMoss Жыл бұрын
@@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers Well you’re agreeing on what this guy says. It’s smarter to question everything rather than take what this guy says as fact. “He’s not a god”. Maybe it’s an exaggeration, but I’m telling you not to (to put it in a blunt way, not being disrespectful), blindly follow what he says. A lot of what he said was opinion based and his take on what a death metal band/song should be was either musically ignorant or purely opinion based. I’m coming from musician to musician, this guy was very wrong on almost everything he said. Not even my two cents. Most people can agree that everything this guy said can easily be debunked by checking out other genres, musicians, songs, song structures, etc. I’m just saying, bands like BI and maybe YOUR future musical endeavors don’t have to be structurally sound by what this guy said. Coming from his standpoint, yeah sure, don’t make songs that are just riffs if you don’t want them to be. But I’m just saying, you don’t HAVE to listen to him. Music is music. It can be whatever you want it to be. I’m not your enemy. I’m just trying to help you out
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers Жыл бұрын
​@@OvergrownWithTheMoss You seem to be interpreting me as saying _"this guy on the internet said there are all these rules and he must be right now I'm only going to write music that conforms to those rules!",_ whereas in fact the opposite is true. I feel like I can be more creative, because it's inspired me to rework themes in new ways, and it's freed me from the urge to rely on Metal tropes like 000 chugging. There is a long history of using melodic development in music to develop musical themes, and I am in a better place to appreciate that. I have been highly skeptical of some of his takes, and came to this conclusion by thinking for myself and applying some of the ideas I found most interesting. The result of this was a marked improvement in my own compositional practices, and a greater appreciation for well-written compositions across a range of genres. You seem quite passionate about this, and you're assuming I am a 'blind follower' who can't think for himself. I will not take offence at this, because frankly you have never met me and are speaking from a place of ignorance. I take inspiration from a wide range of sources, and I'm not going to be bound by this one guy's opinions any more than I'm going to be bound by yours.
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers Жыл бұрын
@@OvergrownWithTheMoss P.S. You just dropped like 15 comments on this video. I understand that you may disagree strongly with what this guy is saying, but don't get hung up on it. He's stating his opinion (not fact), which you think is BS, and that's totally fine. The productive thing to do would be maybe make a video of your own about musical theory, or just ignore him. There are enough things to get stressed about without listening to people you hate... I hope that came across right.
@tcw8287
@tcw8287 11 күн бұрын
He may as well critique the way they tie their laces ffs.
@pasibrzuch212
@pasibrzuch212 Жыл бұрын
what do you think of Full of Hell? Something keeps me from digging into this band, it has this deathcore vibe to me for some reason.
@boofinmid4047
@boofinmid4047 8 күн бұрын
clicking off this video to go watch the blood incantation live at adult swim video
@oyepvokadub6522
@oyepvokadub6522 Жыл бұрын
This is the best in depth analysis of music I've seen. The guy really knows his shit and provides great thoughtful content. The level of detail is untouchable. More people needs to know of this channel.
@HenneB
@HenneB Жыл бұрын
Lmao you got me for a second there. Very funny trolling 😂
@markcooperartcomofficial
@markcooperartcomofficial Жыл бұрын
This isn't trolling. This is the truth. They can't write songs.
@nealeshaffer3140
@nealeshaffer3140 Жыл бұрын
@@markcooperartcomofficial They write great songs
@Jack-pp2ng
@Jack-pp2ng Жыл бұрын
​@@markcooperartcomofficial people like them though who cares
@markcooperartcomofficial
@markcooperartcomofficial Жыл бұрын
@@Jack-pp2ng People like fast food...
@macraghneall6883
@macraghneall6883 Жыл бұрын
Whats this guys band called? I imagine its output couldnt hold a candle to starspawn
@Livingstonesmusic
@Livingstonesmusic 2 ай бұрын
He couldn’t take care of a goldfish much less be in a band
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 15 күн бұрын
Acanthrophis
@filmfanatic3035
@filmfanatic3035 Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic critique of this band. I have listened to these guys and have def given them a chance,but it always leaves me cold on how there is no emotional connection,the lack of establishing any kind of mood to grasp on to.!
@SpookyApparition
@SpookyApparition Жыл бұрын
wtf? Blood Incantation have a distinct mood, it's one of their defining features
@raakareiska9804
@raakareiska9804 Жыл бұрын
​@@SpookyApparition maybe their intro/outro stuff has mood but their main riffs are quite forgettable
@OvergrownWithTheMoss
@OvergrownWithTheMoss Жыл бұрын
@@raakareiska9804Opinion based, no tangible fact. I’m a heavy BI listener and know the songs like the back of my hand. All opinion based
@raakareiska9804
@raakareiska9804 Жыл бұрын
Thats literally means nothing. Some people listen to Lil Wayne daily and its still crap
@OvergrownWithTheMoss
@OvergrownWithTheMoss Жыл бұрын
@@raakareiska9804 Opinion based. Next
@leighluvsrats
@leighluvsrats Жыл бұрын
Love this band
@theDOOMSLAYER6666
@theDOOMSLAYER6666 2 ай бұрын
Whoever invented the internet probably had no idea that one day it would be abused for such unnecessary bs.
@TheZigzagman
@TheZigzagman 2 күн бұрын
It was invented by college nerds to dunk on other college nerds without having to go outside. This was the intended purpose.
@midnght-dp2lg
@midnght-dp2lg Жыл бұрын
TDLR, Old head doesn't understand death metal
@quochuynguyen764
@quochuynguyen764 11 ай бұрын
he had a tech death band Ara
@laguna2869
@laguna2869 6 ай бұрын
​@@quochuynguyen764which sucks
@emlinbittner238
@emlinbittner238 Жыл бұрын
the lagato pattern is so tuff idc
@tyazhest
@tyazhest Жыл бұрын
Finally, someone put the group in place)
@markcooperartcomofficial
@markcooperartcomofficial Жыл бұрын
This is the exact impression I get. They can't write songs. Its all boring as hell!
@humanrays
@humanrays 6 ай бұрын
I recently discovered that Blood Incantation put a quote from The Kybalion on their merch. I don't hate this band's music at all but that's just corny as hell.
@Abbvcls7262
@Abbvcls7262 Жыл бұрын
Truly the review of all time
@fireatwill8989
@fireatwill8989 Жыл бұрын
This dude trying to lecture on how BI's riffs aren't really riffs reminds me of Ben Shapiro trying to argue that rap music isn't really music. Dude, just stop. Some people like their music. You don't. That's okay. This whole thing is so gatekeepy.
@raakareiska9804
@raakareiska9804 Жыл бұрын
Speaking on beat really isnt "song writing". Fuck rap
@heelstevenmaggle5615
@heelstevenmaggle5615 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being into metal and complaining about gatekeeping. With a picture like that I can safely assume what side of the gate you belong on.
@fireatwill8989
@fireatwill8989 Жыл бұрын
@@heelstevenmaggle5615 Imagine being into metal and actually giving a shit about people's profile pics. Still not sure what side of the gate I'm on though, please enlighten me.
@heelstevenmaggle5615
@heelstevenmaggle5615 Жыл бұрын
@@fireatwill8989 8====D~
@jakegonzalez8886
@jakegonzalez8886 Жыл бұрын
When I first started watching this video I thought to myself “this guy has to be a troll” but when I finished watching the video I actually understand your criticism. I don’t mind the exercise-pseudo-riffs but the blatant plagiarism; stealing a album cover from a fellow death metal band is enough for me to not listen anymore. Fucking thank you
@CultsofFate
@CultsofFate Жыл бұрын
this is untrue and is explicitly explained in the video, the band did not plagiarize any of their album covers, it is taken from previously existing art by the artist Bruce Pennington that they probably paid rights to have as their album cover, this is a very normal thing within the world of metal, look at bands like bolt thrower or reverend bizarre which have done the same thing. a very large amount of metal album covers are not original pieces of art designed for that band. the youtuber is probably just a moron a not troll and just dislikes modern popular bands and tries to justify in some of the dumbest way possible
@laguna2869
@laguna2869 6 ай бұрын
Agony didn't payed to use the aliens album cover, they were forced to remove it from spotify, Blood Incantation payed the artist and they have the right to use the cover, end of story.
@nealeshaffer3140
@nealeshaffer3140 Жыл бұрын
You have a talent for salty,click-baity titles because you brought out their fans. Unfortunately your critique seemed to ring a little hollow and came across more as just olde fashioned, get off my lawn complaining. Treating them as sellouts for being on adult swim is stretch but someone's gotta gate keep I guess. All the best to you with your future endeavors
@mrwiskerz666
@mrwiskerz666 Жыл бұрын
Yeah damn anyone for taking advantage of giving your band a chance at a broader audience lol such a stupid criticism
@peetupeetupeetu
@peetupeetupeetu Жыл бұрын
"drop tuning is not death metal" my brother in christ 💀💀💀 this has GOT to be a troll
@heelstevenmaggle5615
@heelstevenmaggle5615 Жыл бұрын
Death metal can have drop tuning but that alone doesn’t make something death metal.
@SolomonThrashelman
@SolomonThrashelman 5 ай бұрын
You probably listen to Hanson or limp Bizkit
@Breno765
@Breno765 6 ай бұрын
I mean, what happened to this guy? He said he used to love Death and now he calls Chuck a terrible song writer. Way to go, man.
@heelstevenmaggle5615
@heelstevenmaggle5615 6 ай бұрын
What made Chuck a good songwriter to you?
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers
@BlackSailPass_GuitarCovers 15 күн бұрын
He did a whole video on this - look it up.
@Williameagleblanket
@Williameagleblanket Жыл бұрын
I saw them 2019 open for Cannibal Corpse and Morbid Angel. I thought they were boring live. 😑
@seanmcmillin3081
@seanmcmillin3081 Жыл бұрын
That’s weird cause I’ve seen them twice and they were killer
@raakareiska9804
@raakareiska9804 Жыл бұрын
I bought their record, listened and only thing interesting I found was the "Inner paths (To Outer Space)" song. Their death metal riffs are pretty lame compared to other tech bands
@narasimha7187
@narasimha7187 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps a bit of overthinking??
@antp007gaming
@antp007gaming 9 күн бұрын
Na bro, I haven't even finished 'Absolute Elsewhere' and I already have that album a 5 ⭐,which will only go down if they fuck up somehow because they found a sound and harnessed it well Also didn't Metalocalypse on Adult swim have great success lol Bro has to be straight trolling. I mean I get that people will always find something they don't like yet when people like lots of people like bands like Sleep Token, Opeth and Blood Incantation, it means that these bands are doing something that resonates with people and they don't get that sonic anywhere else
@ibuprofeno400pa
@ibuprofeno400pa Жыл бұрын
I felt this way with the last Morbid Angel album. The songs did not have a real identity, they were just a bunch of riffs put together. Blood Incantation reminds me a lot of Incantation.
@richpittman666
@richpittman666 Жыл бұрын
incantation is has a downright fhilthy,evil sound that tons of bands have copied. i dont think b. i. should b brought up in the same sentence as a legendary band like incantation
@spacecadet8843
@spacecadet8843 Жыл бұрын
There isn’t anything like incantation, hell even incantation doesn’t sound like incantation anymore just like immolation is a shell of itself too.
@theakkusor
@theakkusor Жыл бұрын
I never got the hype, and I agree about the songwriting. I think maybe you're supposed to enjoy it like experimental ambient music or an abstract painting. There are plenty of heavy bands that are progressive/avant-garde but can create awesome songs... Ulcerate, Gorguts, Deathspell Omega, Blut Aus Nord etc... but I never come away from a Blood Incantation song feeling like I went on a cohesive journey or narrative, thinking a riff was good, or at the very least remembering a song or even wanting to hear it again.
@RoryLynott
@RoryLynott 10 ай бұрын
Shit, this is entertaining. Everybody likes what they like!
@cornyhorsecornhorsington7522
@cornyhorsecornhorsington7522 Жыл бұрын
I hate them because Seattle. Also they are the plain McDonald's hamburger of death metal.
@bingboompow8861
@bingboompow8861 Жыл бұрын
Bro, is like your fucking whispering even with head phones on full blast. Speak up lol I wanna hear what you have to say
@kronosb
@kronosb Жыл бұрын
It was going bad...i am glad the fidelity drove me away.
@markcooperartcomofficial
@markcooperartcomofficial Жыл бұрын
Buy a computer with some speakers. It was loud and clear for me.
@ujjaya1
@ujjaya1 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your analysis from start to finish, but it's an aesthetic choice . Incoherence and the inhabiliy of building a solo were the trademark of Kerry King . It's boring, it's unmusical, but it was his choice . And it has worked . We live amongst deaf people, so the clever choice is to make music for them , right at their level . Saying that they recorded a brillant ambient album in 2022 Timewave zero which is the total reverse of your analysis , and I love it . Metalwise they are still light years away from Bolt Thrower : simple, catchy , coherent, efficient . It takes a whole life to make simple thing that has real value . Complexity is just a wall of mist for the mass who thought themselve special .
@thelegionary07
@thelegionary07 2 ай бұрын
I agree with Blood Incantation being overrated AF.. I don’t agree with Chuck being a terrible songwriter.. He might have set out a predictable song template, with most songs following the same pattern, but his riffs were so strong that it didn’t even f*cking matter
@heelstevenmaggle5615
@heelstevenmaggle5615 2 ай бұрын
I’ll never understand the hype for Death’s riffs. They sound so flat and washed out.
@lailer1975
@lailer1975 Жыл бұрын
Tik Tok metal, or is it instagram metal?
@JoeyQ12345
@JoeyQ12345 Жыл бұрын
I dig em. I got hidden species on CD and a shirt of the album cover.
@Jardinserpent
@Jardinserpent Жыл бұрын
Something inside me wants to applaud this video, because indeed the circlejerk of modern metal got boring over the last few years with hyping up certain bands. And I think some of the critique is valid or interesting at least. Still, there is a certain kind of drive and power in Blood Incantations music that makes them unique to me. The problem of riff salad is a real problem, it's just that I don't hear that with them that much. What I like about them is their sonic approach which is quite psychedelic and their ability to groove. Doesn't mean they're the best band out there, but to me they're mostly just a fun band.
@KeremcanBuyuktaskin
@KeremcanBuyuktaskin 5 ай бұрын
Don't feed the troll.
@lestyebe1369
@lestyebe1369 Жыл бұрын
can't tell if this is performance art titled "How not to be a Critic" or sincere opinion.
@DysDevGroup
@DysDevGroup Жыл бұрын
just saw this but this is a great troll
@alexquintero4521
@alexquintero4521 Жыл бұрын
Who said that the beginning can't be a riff ... You? Bro I honestly feel as a band why can't they approach death metal in a different direction why does it have to be the same formula that's fucking boring! And i you don't like it that's fine but the fact you're making a video about why you don't like it and you don't even play 🤦 you're doing to much!!
@johnathonmckenzie7148
@johnathonmckenzie7148 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how people love this band. They are ok but very boring to me. I saw them with Full of Hell. After Full of Hell was done. I stayed through 2 songs and then left.
@scaleitbackarchive
@scaleitbackarchive Жыл бұрын
Very mediocre band
@YGOMaster97
@YGOMaster97 Жыл бұрын
I love them :)
@RYANSMITH-xv5yi
@RYANSMITH-xv5yi Жыл бұрын
You are totally wrong about chuck period never watching another video of yours again
@raakareiska9804
@raakareiska9804 Жыл бұрын
Fuck Chuck and his prog metal. Only work he will be remembered in this genre will be Scream bloody gore
@stantorren4400
@stantorren4400 Жыл бұрын
@@raakareiska9804Leprosy is the better album
@markcooperartcomofficial
@markcooperartcomofficial Жыл бұрын
Go cry in a corner.
@OvergrownWithTheMoss
@OvergrownWithTheMoss Жыл бұрын
“Bands that I WISH they sounded like”. Again, this guy spews nothing but his own opinions as fact. Everything this guy said so far is just wrong. But I’m still watching, hoping for some sort of constructive criticism, but I’ve only heard stupidity so far.
@sunwheel577
@sunwheel577 Жыл бұрын
this was hard to watch ngl
@lostboii3588
@lostboii3588 Жыл бұрын
I like Blood Incantation casually, but there are some really good points made in this video, especially the part about cutting the rhythm section in order to introduce new themes. It's tiring.
@RadicalizedRadical
@RadicalizedRadical 10 ай бұрын
Nigga slayer exist, they have released some of the goat albums in metal and they are WAY more repetitive than BI. If BI need more themes then what do slayer need to do?
@blastbeetb.3045
@blastbeetb.3045 Жыл бұрын
I personally find Spectral Voice to be a much better project than Blood Incantation, but the idea they're trying to create an "illusion" of technicality and riffage is pretty silly. These guys aren't sitting around thinking "wow, this one will really fool em!!" when they're writing songs. Also, Origin fucking sucks and Nile is mid other than the drumming.
@xmetalhistory7337
@xmetalhistory7337 Жыл бұрын
I love them, haha. But nice objetive opinion!
@chriswhitaker1154
@chriswhitaker1154 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you bro.. i was just now literally thinking the same thing.. it was first time ive heard them too
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