Blood Pod vs Sidisi vs Krenko vs Momir Vig cEDH Gameplay

[@TheG4urdian]

So I was thinking this was still an online game, so when Jordan reached over and physically swapped the Gilded Drake I thought he was some kind of wizard! xD

[@Kizzet373]

Lore-wise, players are powerful wizards that cast spells, so maybe he is 0_0

[@1Heirborn]

This is canon

[@kingginger3335]

I can't wait to build a Krenko deck! Ever since I started Magic, I've loved this commander. I will be building it soon.

[@Clovislaying]

Thank you guys so much for making fun to watch gameplay

[@kalalabrogues8966]

Nice, I used to run a Momir deck before making it into Chulane! I still have him as a great tutor for my win con creatures!

[@LogoMotive11]

I JUST built Momir as a strong casual deck a couple weeks ago and it is disgusting. My playgroup knows they have to answer all my dorks or I'll generate enough Mana to Momir and protect him. And when that happens you can tutor everything else you need. Ton of fun to play.

[@NicolBolasED]

Hey the competitive meter actually had some info on the decks this video. That's a nice improvement. Glad to see the channel listening to comments and improving over time.

[@bryanlim9817]

The meter is not reliable.

[@FrancisSalois]

Bad threat assessment on both Jordan and the Krenko player : it was obvious that blood pod had the win, so bouncing Felidar guardian was the thing to do, not Krenko. The Krenko player should have told it to the table or destroy a land to bounce the Felidar. Doing nothing gave Joseph the win.

[@TheGrifcannon22]

He could have bounced Extortionist then Felidar or Destiny Spinner.

[@jdcommander7026]

Strong concur here. I think the better play is to bounce the Destiny Spinner/Felidar in order to push the bounce of Krenko, if you think that's really an issue. The tough decision there, IMO, is to decide between 2 CMC Destiny Spinner vs 4 CMC Felidar. Upside to Destiny Spinner is it prevents the uncounterable spells, but can probably be recast anyway. Bouncing Felidar is a higher CMC but prevents interaction while on the stack. Considering the pod, probably better to just bounce the Felidar as not many can interact with a creature spell and Joseph probably wasn't going to drop a Food Chain or other big Enchantment (outside of maybe Splinter Twin?)

[@jdcommander7026]

@@TheGrifcannon22 If you're saying the Krenko player should bounce Extortionist and continue the chain, I agree.

[@mattfaas3040]

honestly i kind of understand the bounce on krenko. It really forced the krenko player to either deal with felidar guardian or possibly lose. Its an interesting tactic but reminds me of CEDHTV's video entitled "How to be an EDH terrorist"

[@DanquezHD]

bouncing the guaridan would not have done anything to stop the kiki combo, if he uses kiki to compy elves he has 4 mana again and can recast the guardian

[@joskajiri]

i just loooove that white line down on the image showing how long that part gonna be

[@antoniocalabrese3380]

These videos are awesome!! I noticed that you have a pseudo timer on the bottom of the screen when doing the introduction. I believe it is possible to get the KZbin player to have timestamps bookmarked natively if you add timestamps to your description. It might save you time with editing :)

[@GlichCentral]

Minor nitpicks, but Krenko tapping immediately meant that Tymna and the zombie got to attack him, while he could have waited to tap it to prevent the Tymna and zombie from attacking, and been able to keep the goblin. Also, he didn’t attack anyone with the Goblin Chieftain on mostly creatureless board despite a player controlling a sylvan library and the other 2 decks containing black.

[@bismyan1019]

What is up with that Dockside at 10:40 ? Is that a cut-out with a Chandra's Spellbook frame?

[@denniswijker7162]

I was wondering the same thing!

[@Repairgenius]

Its a proxy I picked up a couple months ago! Definitely a cool mtg art style!

[@OTooleSLuffy]

Love competitive Krenko!

[@thepyromancer1332]

What a beautiful Dockside art nate L has there

[@Repairgenius]

😎

[@redmania1020]

My mind when playing Krenko; “Hehe, goblin go BRRRRRRR!”

[@ring1313]

Got my playmat in the mail yesterday!

[@keldonator]

I'd really like to see a Kelsien, the plague deck 😁

[@ThatDamnPipsqueak]

If you're not running Strategic Planning in Sidisi, why run Ransack the Labs? You have Force of Will/Negation, a blue card is inherently more valuable.

[@moshjoshpitchief4418]

krenko got a huge upgrade with Conspicuous snoop and Subira.

[@Repairgenius]

🙌

[@josephrivera9818]

Krenko is by far my favorite!

[@monson464]

It doesn’t matter much, but my understanding of equip, is that it’s an activated ability. So with it on the stack, & the CoV on the stack, the equipment was not yet equipped, so krenko didn’t have haste. Or did I miss something?

[@jlbrooks74]

You are correct. Chain of vapor was in response to the equip so the tokens would not have been made.

[@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG]

Goblin chieftain was on the battlefield giving Krenko haste

[@jlbrooks74]

Correction I didn't see the goblin chieftain before krenko came in. Chief grants haste 😋

[@monson464]

@@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG totally missed that. thanks for the reply!

[@schlichte5091]

Hey can you guys try some of these commanders? Rakdos, Lord of Riots, Teshar, Ancestor’s Apostle, Grenzo, Dungeon Warden and Merieke Ri Berit

[@frycook6396]

Good lord. It was an excellent game up until Jordan fumbled the hell out of that turn. You had combo part 1 on board and an anti-counter piece. There hasn't been a telegraph that obvious since the noam medication run. At the level you'll are at, you can't just say "Oh I know this deck can go off so I'm going to target him." Threats change throughout the game.

[@chrisd2876]

But Jordan hat a Sylvan Library, so pressuring his life total makes sense

[@JABTX81]

Ok you mention turn order but krenko doing some damage vs you obviously having the combo and winning means the chain of vapor was huge misplay in terms of threat assessment

[@Repairgenius]

Threat assessment? What threat? Oh I see it, its over there, that goblin guy 😆

[@justmeme001]

What gadget or gizmo are they using to keep the camera pointed straight down?

[@True_Ronin]

I can smell Adam’s sleeves from here.

[@spentah7066]

Where would one be able to find the dice @11:10 for sale?

[@anatolegossington5069]

MAELSTROM WANDERER!!!

[@marcellosalis5063]

Can I suggest decks if I go Patreon? PS: You guys are amazing.

[@kammxd4325]

Joseph was rewarded for keeping a greedy hand

[@ramensobatv]

I thought it was staged. How does one top deck 2 lands with that sketchy hand?

[@BrassBallsofSteel]

@@ramensobatv I swear joseph cheats, guy wins just about every game on this channel, if i was in that playgroup I'd think something was up.

[@wheezererb2465]

@@BrassBallsofSteel they're playing in person

[@ramensobatv]

dak mob maybe they just went with it to make the game interesting. I mean he couldve said to draw until he gets a land and bottoms the rest. It’s just so unbelievable.

[@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG]

If you think it's unbelievable you should check out our Twitch stream where we livestream all of these games including the shuffling, discussion, and plays.

[@schlichte5091]

I really wish they would play Grenzo that’s my first serious deck and wish I could see someone else play him

[@quarth9396]

Dryad arbor is not affected by summoning sickness is he? I don't think it does but it probably doesn't matter much

[@MehrGills]

It is. It is a creature, so activated abilities with tap as a cost cannot be activated (without haste). This includes its ability to tap to add a green

[@chimneyimp1486]

nice game. I would have to see more of jordan's deck. Minor thing was overlooked: when joseph played a tutor (4:40) you forgot to reduce his hand cards (7 -> 6).

[@thedeadfool1]

Couldn't you use the cards that change text on kinnan to change non human to non brushwagg?

[@Phelps285]

But what if you wanted to put your brushwaggs into play?

[@mitchelltyner5670]

Was it just me or did Jordan pull a kingmaker for Joseph? Wow what a misplay.

[@cristianprado8559]

Some plays I didn't quite get from the krenko player: after the toxic d. why didn't he attack after casting Goblin Chieftain? there were no creatures on the board and a player with Sylvan Library there, also why not equip chieftain with the greaves that same turn? next turn he hast 3 trasures and krenko goes to his hand... why not recasting krenko (since he had ruby m krenko only cost 3 mana) to put more tokens and attack that same turn? algo.why would you Toxic Deluge when you have the biggest boardstate? I guess you can rebuild with Sidisi though... anyway ggs, you got really lucky joseph especially after keeping that horrible starting hand with one land and after some countered your tutor hahaah

[@cristianprado8559]

I guess the toxic was due to Tymna and Visier, guess visier can get pretty scary in a Momir deck...

[@Repairgenius]

In my time playing with the group, I have had too many creatures bounced or destroyed upon declaration of attacks, chieftain is a solid target for that because 1. Haste enabler and 2. +1/+1 counters for my goblins. Its better to not make it a threat when its your only haste enabler on field or in hand. I get I could have equipped greaves but in our play group you just have to sit and hope that nothing happens to your board to progress especially with getting set back a few times this game. Also on turn six, when I did recast krenko he cost 5 (4-1 plus commander tax because he was removed the turn before by toxic. which caused me to use 2 lands (cavern and mountain) plus the 3 treasure tokens generated from dockside. Regardless of that, there was nowhere near enough damage to kill anyone, let alone win because of the lack of interaction in my hand and the fact that Joseph had the win on the board. Sometimes you have to just roll over and take the L.

[@Sucrose_Mother]

What happened to youtube polls?

[@briantjokroadiguno4566]

Of course kikijiki will resolve, there's a destiny spinner

[@Finngon]

I thought I'd ask here despite being irrelevant: What's your thoughts on the Commander variant Conquest?

[@austin31bennett]

Play Multani from Dominaria! I swear it's a deceptively powerful deck when you build it as a ramp/volition deck.

[@salmeron8660]

I want to see them use wort the raid mother!

[@darbymckilkannoncaid3279]

What is up everyone, my names Joseph, and welcome to Caashly Competitive MTG

[@Halinn]

Jordan should not have kept that hand, way too slow

[@joonasjarnvall832]

Bloodpod opening hand was awful. No mana and combo pieces that you rather have in deck in hand.

[@Coulrophobia29]

Krenko should have copied the CoV to remove the Guardian at an attempt to hold off an obvious next turn win.

[@daodrassulravan5520]

Krenko can't copy things though, Krenko creates goblin tokens.

[@MegaHarley50]

I'd have chained the destiny spinner as it allows for counter spells to be played against the blood pod deck or force him to use all his mana to replay it and kiki

[@Coren999]

Why was it necessary to bounce Krenko? It was quite obvious that the felidar guardian was there to combo off ASAP. So the choice was losing now to Blood Pod or maybe lose to Krenko. It made the Krenko player kingmaker imho

[@Coulrophobia29]

@@Coren999 Yeah I agree. While the announcer made a point to highlight how scary Krenko can be with Hexproof, its still not as scary as the Blood Pods boardstate.

[@kajun316]

whoot first!

[@wildreviews7412]

first

[@ramensobatv]

Im not convinced how joseph topped decked 2 lands while keeping a sketchy hand with just 1 land. Was this staged? 🤫

[@jlbrooks74]

So you've never kept a mediocre hand and gotten lucky in the draws that followed? Or simply gotten lucky draws at any time? Come on man there's variance and luck in this game at every level.

[@ramensobatv]

jeffrey brooks his luck was far from reality.

[@jlbrooks74]

@@ramensobatv yeah because that kind of stuff NEVER happens (sarcasm intended)

[@AtingsQuest]

I wanted to give Like for Momir Vig, but those obviously cheating opening-hand and proxy made me finally decide to gave Dislike. Play real cards!

[@zedisilluminati9449]

What's the problem with proxies?

[@AtingsQuest]

@@zedisilluminati9449 Proxies should only be used under the premise of owning the real copies, which is convenient for building multiple decks without spending time to swap. You can use the real copy when making a clip, so he probably didn't.

[@orsettomorbido]

@@AtingsQuest No. Each single person AND group has different ideas. There is no wrong or right. Do not pass off your opinion (absolutely valid, of course) for a truth. "Should only" is how YOU feel about them.

[@orsettomorbido]

Now that i have finished the video, i have a couple questions: 1) Cheating opening hands? 2) About the proxies: did you never ever had the idea of altering a card to like it more/as a tribute/because you had a cool art idea? yeah, Krenko and the Extortionist where probably digitally altered and "proxied", but who didn't think about that at some point? 3) How do you know if they don't have the real cards? My guess is that Nate HAS the cards but he altered/created cool versions for himself, for his enjoyment. I did the same with the basics I use in two decks XD I commissioned an art from an artist and, printed it on a plastic sheet and glued it on a foil de-inked card. I now have 9 copies of each basic land with MY art on it. And that's COOL AF.

[@zedisilluminati9449]

@@AtingsQuest everything the other person who replied and more. Proxies are perfectly fine in every way, even if you don't own the real card. I assume you're under the elite policy of "I bought the cards so why shouldn't everyone else?" Which is so stupid. I'm a student and I can't afford to buy all the copies of duals for my 3c and 4c cEDH lists, but my playgroup are all also students and understand where I'm coming from. We proxy decks to our hearts content, and I've never understood why people have this attitude about proxies.