Blood Surge Pit 109 - Season 6/Vessel of Hatred

[@babylama89]

Oh wow, in the very last second! Really good job! Hope you figure out a way to go even further than 109!

[@nepter-3]

Yeah, real buzzer beater 😂thanks! I'm already looking into ways to make it to 110, so more to come soon

[@xxJaydogxx]

Please do! I'm using your latest build and doing well​@@nepter-3

[@winstonoi5829]

Hello. I am subscribing to your channel because I just cleared a 100 using your build. I've been testing different Bloodsurge builds and yours seems to be the most effective. I will admit, I came across your channel several days ago but wasn't one hundred percent sure that the build you would be using would get me to 100. The fact that you cleared a 109 proves that you definitely know what you are doing. I will be looking forward to seeing updates to your paragon board once you go higher level. And one more thing, thank you.

[@nepter-3]

Absolutely, glad you've enjoyed playing the build!

[@winstonoi5829]

@@nepter-3 Oh and one more thing. Do you have a discord? I'd like to ask questions about this build.

[@nepter-3]

@@winstonoi5829 I have a written build guide and discussion thread in the Sanctuary (Official Diablo IV) Discord, under the #necro-forum channel (link: discord.com/channels/989899054815281243/1301115861574090752 ). Feel free to drop by and ask questions!

[@VybzJay]

blasting 🤘

[@Snoman298]

This is awesome, thanks for the vid! On the next one would you mind scrolling through your damage sheet so we can see the stats there as well please?

[@nepter-3]

Sure, I'll keep that in mind next time

[@Snoman298]

@nepter-3 awesome, tyvm!

[@StevenT-u1e]

Nice build and will sure try it. One Q on Paragon: why not use Control instead of Eliminator?

[@nepter-3]

@@StevenT-u1e In high pit pushing, mobs don't stay CCed for long before they become unstoppable and Control stops adding any damage on them. It also only applies to bosses during stagger windows, which account for about 10% of the overall boss fight at this pit tier. Eliminator is very good, both for the elite dmg and all the extra int it gives by boosting normal nodes. However, I do recommend swapping Corporeal out for Control when doing farm content such as hordes/undercity/etc, because mobs there don't live long enough to become unstoppable (just don't forget to swap back for pit pushing)

[@StevenT-u1e]

@@nepter-3 Thx for answers unlike other streamers like the German...much appreciated. Can you say until which Tier it's still good to use Control? Also does Blood Surge consume corpses....for the Cadaverous aspect?

[@chris.w391]

WOW!! Well done! I heard that +10 on pit tier monster have x10 life. When you go back to Tier 100, does it feel x10 faster😂?

[@nepter-3]

Haha thanks man! I haven't tried any pits besides pushing my max since I maxed out my glyphs really lol, but I can definitely feel the difference :D

[@partynewshu]

hey! I'm glad I found you, I'm obsessed too :) I've been going with a similar build for weeks, I've reached 106 right now. At 111 the road to the boss is smooth, but there's not enough damage for the boss. Do you have a tip? I use Chance for Hemorrhage to Hit Twice and / or Chance for Hemorrhage to Form Blood Orbs. It works perfectly until the boss. Is it possible that I need a "plain" weapon instead of the doombringer? I see you "only" have one-star breeches, I have 2-3 2-3 star ones in my stash, I'll gladly give them to you. Good luck in the future and congratulations!

[@nepter-3]

106 is really good! Grats on that achievement. I've done a good bit of math for Doombringer vs Legendary weapon, and it's just not as strong this season after the addition of double damage tempers. Even with a GA Life% triple masterwork crit Doombringer (giving 94.5% life), it's just a fair amount lower damage than a legendary weapon. An ideally-rolled legendary provides 1.44 x 1.35 = 1.944x damage, whereas an ideal Doombringer tends to add around 1.6x to 1.75x damage (varying with your life total)

[@dupeydog68]

I quit the season. I was playing spirit born and got spirit bored....this is how the game is supposed to be played. They need to nerf the spiritborn to everyone elses level. I wish they would give us another paragon board just because it would make getting glyphs to 100 much easier. What's the point in having glyphs go to 100 if most builds can't even do a 100 or higher?

[@nepter-3]

Totally agree man. I almost started Spiritborn this season with the intention to eventually make a Necro alt, and I'm happy I ended up doing them in the opposite order, because I think I would have definitely grown "spirit-bored" as well. If the only chase goal is time-attacking Pit 150, rather than seeking to clear higher tiers, that to me just falls flat rather quickly

[@subzero308]

As a minion necro main I don't think SB needs to be nerfed (even tho I do agree its boring af I made one and went right back to my necro)... But I do think the bugs need to be fixed and the other classes need to be slightly buffed not a lot but enough. Regardless I dont like the changes in this season but the game is still fun.

[@vladmokrenko7834]

Nice job! Why cooldown reduction on the focus? Looks like nothing is ever on cooldown with the amount of lucky hits. Also, can you explain why no rathma's chosen aspect? Is there a certain A breakpoint where it is not as good as cadaverous?

[@nepter-3]

It's to help with soulrift uptime on the boss, where there aren't enough targets to hit to reset it's cooldown through Decrepify alone. Also outside of pit-pushing where mobs die in far fewer hits, the cooldown is nice keep Soulrift up more often.

[@spindoggytheexplorer2915]

If you had a GA Amulet with Coalesced Blood, Tides of Blood, Imperfectly Balanced would you use that over the one you have here? PS I have one and I’m terrified to temper it since some builds use Ultimate CDR and Soulrift Duration, while yours is running Attack Speed with CDR. Please advise lol I wanna play it safe

[@nepter-3]

Oh man, I feel some amount of pressure answering just because that's such a strong amulet haha. You are safe to temper on Ult CDR and Blood Attack speed as long as you intend to use it for Blood Surge though, as those are pretty set in stone as the best tempers at this point (previously when myself and others were playing the build with a utility temper on neck and taking Rathma's Chosen over Cadaverous, my highest clear capped out around 104. But this change has allowed the build to go several tiers higher). As to which stat to reroll, luckily you can always change this in the future if needed (just costs some gold and mats to do so). The stat to reroll would be Imperfectly balanced into %Int, assuming this passive is non-GA.

[@brunoramospereira9219]

I found a gg weapon but its a sword. 3ga life/int/resource, both tempers very high. Is a 1ga mace still is better. For the amu, would you choose ga int + 1 passive or no ga int + 2 passives or ga tides + 1 passive?

[@lixiaoyu1067]

I think weapon types are not very important, the weapon type damage added are additive, not multiplicative, so 3ga is certainly better. However the problem is we need one + lucky hit on primary resource trait on main hand, otherwise we cannot get enough resource in return. So you probably wanna swap one of your ga, which is unfortunate. I don't think amulet matters too much. Also the passive types can vary. Personally I felt like ga int is the most important, followed by tides. The third trait is really not important. If you can get a good passive that is of course very nice. But in terms of min/maxing, I would say that non of those small details will get this build over pit 110. So probably not something to worry about for now.

[@nepter-3]

@@brunoramospereira9219 Yeah that's a great weapon. The additive type (crit on sword vs OP on mace) is not super impactful, so I'd just use it. For amulet GA int is the biggest damage increase even over GA tides, assuming you still roll +2 tides onto it. It's also very big for resistance capping, so I'd recommend looking for GA int first and passives second

[@anomaly5174]

what do you think about using the doombringder 3x masterworked and GA on max life? do you think that having a legendary with an aspect and temperings is better? currently using the doombringer and im having a dps problem :))

[@nepter-3]

The actual damage added by a perfect doombringer (94.5% life when GA + triple crit) varies a bit with your HP total, but generally amounts to 60-75%. The max I've found was 76% with GA life everywhere, including amulet. A perfect legendary on the other hand adds up to 94% damage with perfect aspect + tempers, as well as a really useful LHC to restore resource roll, which allows you to keep casting when soulrift is down. Basically after double damage tempers were added, there is no reason to use DB (as the build is already tanky AF without it)

[@MacroBioBoi]

That's insane. What're you doing at 109?!?

[@nepter-3]

Going for broke😄hoping to retake the rank 1 Blood Surge clear spot!

[@MacroBioBoi]

@@nepter-3 WHO WENT HIGHER?!?

[@nepter-3]

@@MacroBioBoi LOL, there's a Chinese player named 星同学 who has cleared a 109 in 13:12 on the helltides.com leaderboard. I think with a lot of fishing I could eventually manage the same clear time at 109, but it would basically require that new Nahantu red rock mountain floor type, and then also getting Spiritcaller as he did. So I'm aiming to up my damage a bit, then go for a 110

[@ibrahimdiker5134]

Hi Nepter iam newbei in d4. How can you manage to keep your essence always full.

[@nepter-3]

Soulrift is the primary source of essence regen. If you aren't able to keep it active 100% of the time, I'd recommend using TamZec instead of TamOhm to help reset it's cooldown. That plus the LHC to Restore Resource stat on weapon is really all you need once you have Starless Skies

[@ibrahimdiker5134]

@@nepter-3 Thank you

[@chris.w391]

Hello my friend Any chance you tried the blood passive? It comes to my realization that if you are attacking at or below 15 frame, Rathma's vigor might be better even if you didn't consume any blood orbs.

[@nepter-3]

@@chris.w391 Yeah I'm using it here and in my previous 107 clear. It is far stronger than affliction on trash, and still pretty close on boss damage as well. That's why blighted corpse tendrils is so important, it feeds Orbs into the passive providing tons of extra overpowers

[@chris.w391]

@@nepter-3I see, I thought you were not using it. Another question, how do you reach res cap without 15 all res from merc?

[@nepter-3]

@@chris.w391 Just through stacking Int and having GA %Int on amulet. I technically only had like 68.5% all resist in this clear haha, because we are so tanky from stacking HP it's actually not a big deal to be slightly under. But now I've optimized my paragon a lot more, dropping additive damage nodes when they are less valuable than 5 int nodes (with my gear, this occurs for any additive damage node worth 37% or less). So now I am easily resist capping without Raheir. To see this paragon setup, you can check out the build planner linked in the video description

[@chris.w391]

@ Thanks man, will check. Yeah, those additive nodes even boosted by the glyph are super under performing. So sad

[@Jarkheld]

How do you keep your overpower damage always up? I'm trying mostly the same build but i struggle to keep my overpower dmg up, i overpower once every 5 blood surge stacks

[@nepter-3]

Well 2 things, one just in case you didn't realize this, but I've turned off all non-overpower damage numbers in the game options so that's all that shows. But I'm also getting lots of extra overpowers from picking up blood orbs with Rathma's vigor (that's why I'm using Blighted corpse tendrils, for the orbs)

[@alexdalao7752]

check your skill tree, blood surge should be on the paranormal blood surge

[@BigMonkeyKing101]

First question, how do i get more opportunities to use corpse tendrils more often it likes to not let me use it a lot of the times, second question what is the rotation for this I'm just a little confused would very much appreciate(what is the correct order to use the moves in if there even is a correct order), this build is amazing but i have troubles without super in depth written guides that goes over everything

[@BigMonkeyKing101]

also what is blood surge drains elites. what does that do

[@nepter-3]

I'd recommend reading through the written guide I wrote over on the official Sanctuary Discord first, that should answer nearly all of these questions (Link: discord.com/channels/989899054815281243/1301115861574090752 ). I also regularly answer questions and discuss the build with others there, so feel free to ask further questions in that thread if you'd like

[@renanduarte2360]

on the legs whats the prio? one with 150% proc or GA on the stats?

[@nepter-3]

150% is the most important part. The only exception I might make would be a 148% pair with GA +Life, but that's also the only stat where a GA really matters (even GA overpower is quite weak since we have so much additive overpower damage already from stacking life). Blood Moon is our biggest damage multiplier, so it's important to max that one out

[@renanduarte2360]

@nepter-3 ok, I have one with 3 GA but none of them in max life, and the proc is 130%, I droped a new one today with no GA but the proc is 150%, should I use this new one then?

[@nepter-3]

@@renanduarte2360 Honestly I would use the non-GA 150% pair until you're able to get a GA pair that has 150% as well. Since masterworking only boosts 1 relevant stat on these pants (+Life), being locked to only 8/12 with a non-ancestral isn't as big of a deal

[@toxic3639]

What elixer are you using?

[@nepter-3]

Fortitude (20% hp)

[@djmortal3]

Why do you use flesh eater ?

[@nepter-3]

Cruor's consumes tons of corpses for us "for free" essentially just by casting Blood Surge, so it has very good uptime (and is a huge 40% multiplier, one of our best legendary nodes)

[@djmortal3]

Thank you !!

[@rafaljarmuszkiewicz514]

Why are you prioritizing attack speed so much in your build? For example Ring of Starless Skies you fully masterwork attack speed instead of core skill, why? I'm copying your build and trying to understand this.

[@nepter-3]

Attack speed is just very strong. Each new cast speed breakpoint you reach is worth more than the last, typically 6% to 7.5% damage (as well as extra lucky hit procs). Core skill ranks are generally worth about 4 to 3% each in the build, decreasing in value as you gain more of them (and we get a lot of ranks already from Cruor's and Perdition) Also for starless in particular, it has such a high natural attack speed roll that it's a very good place to gain the majority of your attack speed from, even despite losing core skill ranks.

[@JhinAdorallOriven]

This game is trash ... (nothing personal). Can´t even see most numbers of DMG and if can some.. like M or xxBilions ... really ? Its ridiculous, why not infinity.. jeezz You will do better with POE2