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[@whoKENDAMAwho]

"Just because you aren't good at a game, it doesn't mean that it's souls-like" lmao

[@Zathren]

Wildly accurate. Cuphead isn't souls-like just because it isn't an easy game.

[@joshwaterman5526]

@@Dokka-Bae what? That makes zero sense.

[@alexcross8914]

Just because you've played it for 100000 hours and now it's simple, doesn't mean that it's isn't soul's-like

[@leevalencia6968]

@@AcousticOlli I also haven't really seen anyone mention the death mechanics in Hollow Knight in the comments here. Anyone who has ever watched an LP of HK knows that the first thing people say when they die and figure that out is "oh it's like Dark Souls I have to go get my stuff where I died." It's reasonable for him to not be interested in playing the game since he's a speedrunner and the movement mechanics are quite different, and that would be pretty important to a speedrunner. But it seems like his annoyance at the people asking him means he now has to deny that it's similar in any respect, which was just annoying for me to listen to as someone who didn't know him before clicking this video.

[@kylehart8829]

@@AcousticOlli Everything about it is inspired by Metroid and Zelda II. There's very little direct inspiration from Souls; there are similarities but every similarity is much better explained by shared source material rather than one being part of the other's genre. If you flip it around and argue that DS1 is a Metroidvania that would actually be a much better argument than the one that puts "hard game with environmental storytelling" as the only criteria for a game being souls-like.

I hope this guy never stops playing bloodborne

[@Aramaru-fq2gn]

I hope he does, but only when the next bloodborne content comes out, or elden ring. But we both know that games just a myth.

[@thanos.is.triggered1969]

You say as if there’s a chance of him stopping lmao

[@wabbit_szn9784]

Lol for all the idiots who think God of War is good

@@wabbit_szn9784 Why you think god of war is bad?

[@Iznora1812]

zeus dünyanın en gizli toksik insanı olabilir lol. i used to like his content, but back when ivhen had the WR with 1:06:49 IGT he blamed him for cheating where he got it on stream, lmao. he was jealous as fuck. thats where the majority of bloodborne’s “true” speedrunners started to dislike him.

[@Ibanezer21]

Zeus: Is quiet Bloodborne: ... Oh no

[@Veztai]

To be fair, I bet it does get frustrating having to answer the same questions basically every day.

[@GtaRockt]

this is basically the life of every twitch/youtube streamer ever

[@kodiak4777]

Like Lethalfrag will say, if you don't like answering the same questions over and over you probably shouldn't do this job.

[@GtaRockt]

@@kodiak4777 I guess you never worked in customer support, amirite?

[@kodiak4777]

@@GtaRockt bruh I work on a helpdesk at an MSP.

[@GtaRockt]

@@kodiak4777 and I am Santa Claus

[@setsunaimpacto8713]

Literally any game: *is hard* People: Ahh yes of course, a Dark Souls reference.

[@RnRRias]

As if difficultly wasnt a thing long before a souls game

[@vrapbrap]

Babbys first difficult game.

[@travis8106]

Yeah, but lets be real, Hollow Knight does take clear influence to souls with its design and atmosphere. It's just a wildly different game, with the only real similarity being challenging bosses.

[@mysteriousmr.h7304]

You know, I think is FromSoft designed a boss after this guy, the beard should be a weapon, coated in blood as he eats a piece of toast in the cutscene before he inevitably destroys everyone

[@darkwraith9548]

Timestamps for all the bosses Shadows of Yharnam 7:54 Father Gascoigne 13:44 Rom, the Vacuous Spider 17:50 The One Reborn 21:47 Micolash, Host of the Nightmare 27:56 Mergo’s Wet Nurse 32:57 Amygdala 37:15 Darkbeast Paarl 39:32 Blood Starved Beast 40:48 Cleric Beast 43:16 Celestial Emissary 49:12 Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos 50:14 Vicar Amelia 53:25 The Witches of Hemwick 56:40 Martyr Logarius 1:01:14 Ludwig the Holy Blade 1:06:56 Living Failures 1:10:32 Lady Maria of the Astral Clocktower 1:12:20 Orphan of Kos 1:15:15 Laurence the First Vicar 1:19:00 Gehrman the First Hunter 1:20:22 Moon Presence 1:21:11

[@afrogufo772]

"People Have Different Opinions and Tastes: the run"

[@Ghaiothy]

he's kinda of a hypocrite about it but it's right anyways

[@crocopsleg3523]

Hollow knight is a metroidvania. Psychopaths gotta stop comparing everything to souls.

[@basedneet_n3w0rd3r]

A metroidvania can still be soulslike

[@owainglyndwrlastprinceofwa2486]

@@basedneet_n3w0rd3r they can’t on a fundamental level but Ok

[@basedneet_n3w0rd3r]

@@owainglyndwrlastprinceofwa2486 course they can but that requires using a bit of a meta understanding on what soulslike is or means.

[@owainglyndwrlastprinceofwa2486]

@@basedneet_n3w0rd3r the core gameplay is entirely different. You can only draw connections in the most basic ways such as “you explore areas, there are difficult bosses”

[@basedneet_n3w0rd3r]

@@owainglyndwrlastprinceofwa2486 it's not basic in the way hollow knight is a soulslike. Soulslike isn't just defined by gameplay for me, or we would just call them action adventures and be done with it. How the lore is presented, the feel, atmosphere, how quests work, ect

[@TheBravesfan30]

God of War gameplay may not be a masterpiece but storytelling and lore wise it is a definite masterpiece.

[@heyZeusHeresToast]

The story was really good.

[@TheBravesfan30]

@@heyZeusHeresToast it has the best story out of all the previous GOW games in my opinion.

[@iedutul1]

I like this dude but God of war combat is very good, I might even say on the same level as bloodborne. People give this game shit because it's mainstream I want to see you try the final Valkyrie on give me god of war ( coming from a person that actually did it) and then tell me the combat is shit :)) play it on higher difficulty and you'll see how essential the many combos variety really is

[@iedutul1]

I might even say that final Valkyrie is almost as hard as orphan on give me god of war

[@TheBravesfan30]

@@iedutul1 I don't think the gameplay is shit. I think its actually really good, but it can be repetitive at times.

[@NotThatObvious]

my dude killed paarl while I wasn’t looking

[@DxRxIxZxZxY]

I’ve been getting into Bloodborne speedruning bc of you keep up the good work! S tier name by the by

[@zzodysseuszz]

It confused me for ages idk why

[@dankmatter3068]

by the by

[@TheInfamousIceman]

Been watching him for a little while now. He seems a little more agitated then he used to be when he disagrees with people. Which is not a bad thing. Just hope he takes a little break when he feels like he needs to.

[@demarais2424]

Same here, the whole hollowed knight thing is def pressing him. He’s answered the same question a million times and ppl are still asking and making comparisons.

[@x192743tf]

He's acting like a bit of a dick with it all to be honest. I get you don't enjoy answering the same questions, but he's gone off on full tangents calling people fucking idiots and everything for asking a simple question. Not everyone on his streams is a regular, he can't expect a new person to come in and immediately know he's gonna blow a gasket if they ask about Hollow Knight. He needs to take a step back and chill the fuck out.

[@TheInfamousIceman]

I’m 100% certain you’ve never worked in customer service... that’s basically what his job is, replying to repetitive questions, dealing with trolls and stressing for a PB because he’s a speed runner, that’s what he’s supposed to do, he’s not paid to be your buddy who has to be nice and sweet and he’s fully aware that if he alienates you he might lose you as a sub, he’s fine with that because he wants to be honest, but the veil wears pretty thing when people keep trying to convince him to play a game he has 0 interest in playing.. try and understand it from his point of view my man

[@breannafreeman5520]

@@x192743tf I mean, his mom was recently diagnosed with cancer. Among other unsavory things going on elsewhere, chill out and maybe understand where he's coming from. Answering the same questions constantly is annoying. He's not being paid to answer the same question every stream, every five minutes.

[@TheInfamousIceman]

Breanna Freeman I didn’t know about his mother :/ damn

[@Vexxestt]

Hollow knight is thematically similar not mechanically.

[@shaun7389]

Any game I slightly struggle on is now called a “souls like”

[@Ghaiothy]

@@shaun7389 he's talking about the theme which i assume you haven't played the game to understand

[@Ravendawn-oi4yq]

@@Ghaiothy well I have, and that doesn't make sense, shadow of the colossus is about a guy going into a forbidden land and exploring it, and that came out before the souls series, so no Hollow Knight is not a Soulslike just because you explore an old forgotten place

[@Ghaiothy]

@@Ravendawn-oi4yq i'm not saying it's a souls like i'm saying it's similar by theme compare the tow games and you will find that it's very thematically similar and the souls like genre is not exactly a theme as much as it is gameplay mechanics

[@Ravendawn-oi4yq]

@@Ghaiothy yeah my bad, i miss interpreted your point sorry

[@lukagaljer5006]

I've heard this HK discussion so many times now that I genuinely thought this was a reupload of some sorts xD Keep it up though, love your stuff Zeus

[@JabbyMayoCD]

"I give God of War combat 2/10" Said with a straight face while playing Bloodborne.

[@rhin086]

Great videos.. I still remember finding you through IGN showcasing your Bloodborne run. You are one talented dude!

[@ninjoshpanda6668]

4:30 "Just because you aren't good at a game doesn't mean its 'Souls-like'" Oh my granola, that is the best burn I've heard this year. Also, Hollow knight is not a Souls-like... its a Metroid-vania. And Zeus explained that right after... watch the video before commenting...

[@dalgusmaximus4557]

Yeah its a fake souls game, a bad metroidvania, but a good action platformer.

[@zzodysseuszz]

@@dalgusmaximus4557 it’s action is shit though

[@dalgusmaximus4557]

@@zzodysseuszz Boss fights were fun at least.

[@zzodysseuszz]

@@dalgusmaximus4557 no the bosses were why I said it’s combat was shit. The bosses are horrendously unbalanced. Look at that one boss in the soul place with the dozens of armoured guys that roll across the floor. That was extremely unbalanced

[@dalgusmaximus4557]

@@zzodysseuszz Yeah I guess they are unbalanced. But again, I do think they are fun at least.

[@shelbycuthbertson24]

A bit of a shame that this run was a little bit sullied in places by some bitter commentary. I understand that he's human, though, and I'm sure he was super fed up with not only being bugged about Hollow Knight, but having people rile him up about Bloodborne and its combat. Just isn't as nice to hear someone sounding so heated and fed up. I wish people in the comments would realize that he's a human being with emotions and opinions just like anyone else and stop ragging on him though. (Like, come on, you're telling me y'all never felt like Zeus before?)

[@siguanabo69]

Lol bugged about hollow knight, good one

[@joshwaterman5526]

Lol sullied? Just enjoy the run. He was awesome period.

[@itsSmiv]

@@joshwaterman5526 "just enjoy the run" lmao you realize that the commentary is part of the run, right? You can't just ignore what zeus says unless you mute the video. It's harder to enjoy something when there's a negative discussion going on. What you're doing is like telling a sad person, "just stop being sad". Yeah, great advice there.

[@DemocracySucksCopeAndSeethe]

@@joshwaterman5526 anyone who watches zeus knows he's salty af in the beginning of this stream, it's just that simple.

[@dunkers220ismysnap]

@@itsSmiv Exactly

[@Practicallypreposterous]

I'm only eight minutes along but this Hollow Knight discussion is really getting to me 😂. I think HK SHARES notable qualities with soulsborne, but it's far from anything soulslike. The manner of storytelling, the difficulty and some of the atmosphere and some metroidvania elements are the biggest similarities. But ultimately, Soulsborne is a dungeon crawler type game with great character customisability where every enemy can pose a significant threat, and the combat is far more convoluted. That's not to mention things like art direction, level of humour and just graphic and disturbing shit. HK and soulsborne share qualities, but they aren't alike. Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk

[@Twilightingale21]

Yeah, tbh, when you really get down to it most games will share qualities with other games, just because that's how video games work. I love HK and I love Soulsborne, but I don't love them because I think they're similar, I love them because they're all great games in their own right. HK doesn't have to be compared to a Soulsborne in order for it to be good lol. It's a Metroidvania WAY before it's a Soulslike, and some people aren't into Metroidvanias, so why people keep insisting Zeus play it when he's repeatedly stated that it doesn't seem like his kind of thing, I don't know.

[@crackededge9351]

@@Twilightingale21 Hollow Knight on radiant is a challenge more difficult than some Souls games, but that doesn't make it a souls game. It's a very difficult metroid masterpiece, nothing more nothing less. If you don't like metroidvania games you will hate Hollow Knight. Nobody should waste their time on a genre they're just not into, as much as I love simping for the game.

[@Betaster3000]

@@crackededge9351 souls game doesn’t instantly equal super difficult, it just means unfair but not in a bullshit way

[@alinack69]

Five ad breaks within the first ten minutes. 🤣 KZbin needs to chill!

[@bluntlung420]

Get a free trial of yt premium my guy, I'm loving it.

[@MattSpoon07]

Just pay em man, give them their silver and be done with it

[@raversmiracle2]

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[@belli7639]

KZbin vanced

[@JS-jc4cn]

the person that uploads the vid decides where ads go, normally most are at the start because most people don't watch 5+ hours so you'd lose a lot of ad revenue by spacing them out. if you're on PC get uBlock origin, it's a chrome extension that blocks ads and other pop ups etc (mine is currently blocking 345+ things on Yt alone) and you can turn it on/off if you wish to support certain content creators by watching ads

[@xXxTsurabisuxXx]

Gotta agree with Zeus on Hollow Knight. I think people get fooled by the high skill ceiling and Gothic, grey, feudal setting - but Castlevania has all these things and is a much more appropriate comparison.

[@laneevans4384]

Even though I enjoyed the small amount of Hollow Knight I did play, I can say that it is nothing like Dark Souls or Bloodborne. The closest thing are the boss fights; but even then almost every video game has a boss fight.

[@chrisc6972]

Only uses souls elements; drop currency when you die and you spawn at a save place when you die.... So yeah I agree

[@derekcampbell4209]

Yup! And they’re two of my favorite games/series. Played those more than any other games.

[@somekindoflandcow]

a world where sub-1hr all bosses is a possibility... my god...

[@MattSpoon07]

It's kinda ridiculous how you punk down lady Maria like that.

[@sebosebo4661]

You could skip Orphans second phase?! That's insane! GG!

[@mycycleminorities]

Me, a new player, seeing 0:51 : NANI?!

[@SkeletonModel91]

I love the smell of Bloodborne runs in the morning!

[@elmo-mh8yw]

why is no one talking about how he beat the whole dlc in like 10 mins

[@josetomascamposrobledano4618]

Cause that’s what speedrunners do? Cause there are glitches like that fall to reach Orphan that basically save a lot of time for free?

[@itsSmiv]

Because it's a speedrun and that's how it goes in speedruns lmao, it's not that special

[@elmo-mh8yw]

@@itsSmiv you say that like you could do the same and no shit it's a speedrun did you just decide to wake up and be a snarky asswhole today

[@zzodysseuszz]

@@elmo-mh8yw I HAVE done the same shit. I’ve done the entire game in 2 hours not even trying to speed run. I can’t do a world record speed run but I can still say it’s extremely expected for a speed runner to do something quickly. That’s the entire point

[@dunkers220ismysnap]

Hes a god thats why.

[@benjaminmacpherson1336]

"Orphan is the toughest boss in he game" right after he handed it it's ass.

[@dankmatter3068]

lmfao

[@Tripledashhh_]

I feel this dude. Bloodborne is a game I can’t stop playing. Take a break for a year or months yeah but I come back to it like a parasite lol it Invigorates my senses.

[@derekcampbell4209]

I love HK but it is way more a metroidvania obviously. Only comparison for me is the chance to recover Geo/Souls upon death and that there are boss fights, which metroidvanias already had before Souls. I love Hollow Knight, but like Soulsborne the fan community can be relentless in trying to convince others it’s the best game ever.

[@umbra0001]

Not only greek but also romanian, and the way you pronounce made me fall in love with your content even more, great diction 🥺

[@Patches4000]

I appreciate this man admitting Hollow knight was just not his preference. As someone who played both that, and dark souls, I fell in love with them both. But mechanically (button input) and visually they are certainly different

[@KiuanTroll]

I miss playing bloodborne, but some MF stole my controller while i was moving. So pissed.

[@luck721]

buy a new one

[@dankmatter3068]

You must live in Detroit

[@lost-on-sight3505]

Subbed. Really enjoy how you do your speedruns. The way you are, speak and just overall vibe is awesome man. :) Keep it up!

[@flaviocbrangel]

I feel like the comparison between Hollow Knight and Dark Souls is drawn from how both present their stories as well as their perceived difficulty (i.e. the death system). They are, however, very different games in terms of mechanics, completely different genres even. Salt and Sactuary is much more akin to a “2D Soulslike” than HK. That being said, Hollow Knight is a better game than SnS by a long shot, and I don’t even mean to take any merit away from the latter, Hollow Knight’s really just that good. Might not be for everyone, but its success speaks to how great and well made it is.

[@Wickednessdude]

thank you 2 games can be different with style or looks but can share the same concept how story is presented and the damn souls or shade or blood echoes u have to pickup where u die . i never thought Zeus would be that stubborn and arrogant just refuses to admit that hes wrong on soo many levels

[@rallyrandy69]

@@Wickednessdude that shows inspired mechanics. It is nothing close to a souls game play-ability wise.

[@damienlockhart6288]

@@Wickednessdude So having a similar story and concept makes a game like another game? Just ignore mechanics, gameplay, controls, genre, etc...

[@stephendonovan5056]

I have struggled on Ebrietas for three days and he drops her in ten seconds.

[@oceansabyss4706]

In reference to hollow knight I feel like it can be argued as a souls lite not souls like. Sorta the way people talk about rouge likes/lites

[@justrcd]

It's a definite metroidvania, what exactly makes it souls like? It's only souls like in a senses of its themes and lore, gameplay wise its a complete metroidvania. Another similar game would be bloodstained ritual of the night, an igavania

[@nullandvoid7524]

@@justrcd The enemies drop currency that is used to upgrade and you drop it on death. It's fair to say it takes inspiration from Souls in it's themes and certain gimmicks of game play. I'd say Souls Lite is probably the perfect way to describe it.

[@CaptnRussia]

Wow, I haven't seen you in a while Zeus and that is a stunning improvement from the first time I say you and your glorious mane at AGDQ, congratulations on the progress!

[@dakotamurphy3899]

Hollowknight is similar in 3 aspects that's about it. 1. The world building/story telling both focus on forgotten kingdoms stuck in a cyclic conflict between the gods of the land fighting against the very nature of existence, with the story being told through cryptic lines of dialogue and item descriptions. 2.a combat system focused on learning an enemies move set and using evasive tactics to dodge any incoming attacks until the next attack opportunity occurs. 3.the death mechanics are fairly similar in which both you die and leave a stain upon the world which you later go back to and acquire you lost currency through a revitalized level. Also to note both series have vertically inclined world exploration opposed to horizontal, for hollowknight although this could be simply explained as it being a metroidvania. Personally I think hollowknight is in some aspects heavily souls inspired but in others it is no where near soulslike, although for me I started off with the souls series (bloodborne being my first and favorite by far) with little to no 2d experience let alone metroidvania experience yet I thoroughly enjoyed hollowknight and believe it to be one of the best games ever. This is a late comment, but I'm just a newcomer to your channel and just personally resonated with your rant.

[@shootnslash4804]

To be fair for number 2, in most games you need to learn a bosses attack pattern.

[@callum6224]

1. The lore isn’t part of the gameplay, 2. you could say that about the majority of games, where you control a player from a third person perspective 3. that’s the only thing gameplay thing that is probably explicitly taken from, or that hollow knight was influenced by that was made popular by souls. Otherwise, yes, most people probably understand the vague, superficial elements that you’re referring to when you call it a souls like, but if you’re actually recommending someone a game because they like souls, then that’s not a good recommendation

[@Emo_Squirtle]

I’m over here making food, put on a video for background noise/entertainment, look away for like 2 minutes, come back and he’s already in the forbidden woods-the bamboozlement I felt.

[@HanniSeidenba0525]

To me, I think a game can be a Souls-game when you can play any way you can think of, explore lore and land, kill boss by any strat, beat the game pure skill even with a naked lv1 character with a wooden club. A bit of roguelike, a bit of rpg, but only for more taste. Now that's a Souls-game.

[@FaLaN69]

Gonna watch this later today! It will probably motivate me to go back to bloodborne after about a year of not playing. Love your AGDQ runs bro! Good luck out there.

[@coreycashwell8092]

I got to say this is the first stream I've watched that the commentary was entertaining.

[@StrappingYoungLadam]

Man all that nonsense at the beginning saying a metroidvania style game is fundamentally the same as a souls game because you learn new abilities as you progress that are needed to unlock new things in places you've already been. Spyro the Dragon does that lol not a souls game. I'm not a souls snob by any means. I consider myself a casual soulsborne player but even with that it's obvious there's way more to soulsborne than just challenging gameplay with RPG elements.

[@kingty2550]

Seems as though chat was being dicks

[@tearswithouteyes8220]

Sadly it's just sheepish mentality, since souls became a synonimous of difficulty, that's all they need to go on. I love hk to death and ofc there are elements that end up being alike , but at this point of time, is there any game without influence or likeness to another game?

[@crackededge9351]

Even Zelda games have more in common with Bloodborne than Hollow Knight. The main similarity between Hollow Knight and Bloodborne is the manner of storytelling, nothing more nothing less. Difficulty \= genre.

[@cerealboxantagonist]

Zeus, for the love of thunder, you need to start speedmemeruns, then we can all be happy at the same time

[@TheSixthDoctor]

43:00 I feel validated that "A pun on Jesus Christos" was the first thing I thought when I read his alias :D

[@davidchartier2961]

a lot of people seem to think that because a game has a timing dodge mechanic that's hard to master, its a souls game

[@trulybritish1961]

Bloodtinge was my first play through, arcane was my second and skill was my third. Lmao.

[@jjvieira5858]

That First skip to open up Losefka clinic, dude i own you for saving 20 hours of my life on NG+

[@Not3xactly]

It's really unbelievable how easy zues makes this look. I am about to finish my first run through, just have the last 3 bosses to do. Maria almost made me rage quit after 8 tries. But I am going to Duke it out.

[@ninjq3547]

Maria is my favourite boss in all of SoulsBorne

[@kylemiller4999]

just dodge left and hit her twice rinse and repeat be patient

[@Solver606]

@@ninjq3547 I liked her attack animations, the way she used blood and fire, and when she stabbed herself with her weapon were great.

[@Not.A.Heretic]

this guy is so awesome hes just happy to be here

[@bluntlung420]

Yo... GG on the Speedrun, Mr. Blood God. I've always been a huge fan of the saw spear in tranformed mode.

[@MrZabest]

never wondered about zeus's nickname... but now I gotta say, it's pretty smart

[@bigfatindiangeek3855]

he said a 2D can never be a soulslike... he needs to play Salt and Sanctuary.

[@falkarios2944]

Soulslike games generally have common elements like high difficulty, high-risk combat with hard-hitting enemies, sparse checkpoints, and enemies dropping souls (or some other resource used for upgrading stats and/or weapons that is lost upon death), but the player has one chance to regain the dropped souls if they can reach the place of their death without dying again. That's why Hollow Knight is listed as a "Souls-like" on Steam.

[@SuperSitris]

Keep up these consisent uploads Zeus! You are the best source of entertainment while I am in lockdown :)

[@senseweaver01]

So close to that sub one hour run, holy crap! This amazing man

[@kelsyschaeffer7551]

Since it was a huge talking point. I think the reason Hollow Knight reads very Souls is due to the themes and tone. A heavily corrupted world with an enigmatic protagonist whom wakes up with vitually no knowledge or preamble is a very Souls thing to do. That and with the orange curse that posesses creatures I can see how people could say it is souls-like, but moreso in form and not at all in function.

[@SuperBlaze117]

People should seriously lay off asking the same fu king questions and take the hint when he says cut it out. Like being so childish as to threaten to unsubscribe. Like he would care.

[@babakzk]

The technique and fluency.. Well done man

[@snappleisfire5148]

This man says he wouldn’t like hollow knight but is playing bloodborne every single day

[@laurelvanlandingham7858]

Zeus, I don't know if you check youtube comments, but I couldn't breath I was laughing so hard at all the eye rolling at Hollow Knight and God of War talk.

[@calamar8199]

tbh i thing god of war's combat is better because it visually looks better. in bloodborne the combat does feel more efficient, risky and rewarding, but god of war makes you feel like a total badass

[@Demonarrows1]

Honestly Salt and Sanctuary was a pretty decent soulslike, closer imo than Lords of the Fallen.

[@Hopper_Arts]

Virgin Lords of the Fallen Chad Salt and Sanctuary

[@TheInfamousIceman]

Is it good honestly?

[@derekcampbell4209]

It’s fun and can be frustrating/tough to learn and navigate. However, it’s got very fleshed out rpg and more specifically Souls elements. I.E co-op or couch co op, tons of weapons, builds, tons of armor sets, npcs, secret areas, vague lore, boss fights. It can feel a little janky and some bosses have crazy hit boxes. But if you like metroidvanias/dark souls SandS is very fun. I personally like hollow knight and souls better, but salt and sanctuary is good.

[@Demonarrows1]

@@TheInfamousIceman I enjoyed it and yes it has the same gothic setting, same nihilistic view of life, same interconnected level design, same idea that weapons scale with strength/dex etc, same variety of weapons and armour, same quest idea, same vague/opaque story, same fear of losing souls that you've acquired. Where it misses the mark for me is the bosses, they aren't good and arent as hard as metroidvania bosses that dont claim to be soulslike. There's maybe 2 with a mechanic other than 'equip relevant debuff and be ultra aggressive' . I'm not an amazing souls player but there were only 2 or three bosses that caused me to die more than twice. The second half devolves into bad platforming at times that just pissed me off as I don't play platformers. It felt like a 2D souls, in that it was scratching the same itch, and with few games that do that I would recommend it.

[@KrazyKrzysztof]

salt was amazing but so was lords of the fallen: from a big soulsborne fan.

[@dizznotdizzy]

im so confused why does the time in the title say 1:06:50 but the time in the video says 1:13:01

[@cxution5]

There’s somethings speed runners don’t count as part of there time

[@MercurialCorsair]

Woah that first shortcut, what happens if you go into the clinic before iosefka is an imposter?

[@yadu_3]

She just standing on table no movement

[@petekrumb4936]

When you kill dudes in hollow knight you obtain Soul which is probs 80% of the reason people compare them

[@basedneet_n3w0rd3r]

Lol nope It's clearly a soulslike in many ways

[@basedneet_n3w0rd3r]

No, i just enjoy calling out people on their bullshit :)

[@petekrumb4936]

end thy existence nice, well I’ll call you out for doing exactly what Zeus mentions in the video, which is just saying “it’s a soulslike” and providing literally no evidence or argument whatsoever :)

[@basedneet_n3w0rd3r]

@@petekrumb4936 Like yourself you mean? -Practically no introduction to the world -Unclear what or who the protagonist is of what his purpose is -Mysterious, foreign land explored on your own -environmental storytelling -No directions or tasks given by the NPC's -Lore is cryptic and mostly hidden -Level design is interconnected -Open world -literally leaving your currency on the spot you died -starting from the bonfire and going through a shortcut to the boss -giant, entire areas that are missable -focus on combat And so and so on. It's idiotic and superficial to characterize soulslike just in regards to the game mechanics. That is one element among many others that work together that define the soulsborne series.

[@malafakka8530]

@@basedneet_n3w0rd3r Currently playing Hollow Knight. I may not call it soulslike but definitely very much inspired by it. What I find hilarious is that the developers (I think?) said that they never played a souls game or weren't inspired by it when it shares so many worldbuilding and story aspects (as you have shown) that I find it very unlikely to be a coincidence.

[@aaronrosenthal5310]

A virtual driver's Education game would be extremely difficult for Helen Keller, Thus it is a Soul's-like

[@slavkei]

Hollow Knight has some souls-like aesthetics, and I think that makes a lot of people think it's a souls-like even though it's one of the best Metroidvanias around. If you don't like metroidvanias, you won't like it. I think the confusion is that the boss fights being hard and the normal enemies being hard is what people think it means to call something a "Soulslike", not the relatively free-roaming exploration, the lore being about 90% hidden, the lack of any pretext of you being the "good guy", or the way different weapon types can completely change how you play the game. Or that fashion is mandatory.

[@TypeCOrbitalFrame]

im not actually the biggest celestial body 47:46 but he does have a celestial beard! they were on to something.

[@shervintj2464]

You are an awsome runner zeus wish my support could've been way more than just a like and a comment Wish you the Best!

[@McKreevzie]

Hollowknight has currency dropped by enemies, this currency is dropped on death and is used for upgrades. Other than that there is no other crossover.

[@jussihuhtamaki3057]

I've played a couple souls games through, and Hollow Knight about halfway through. My expectations were very much like yours. It turned out I was right.

[@lordziz]

Hollow Knight is a Metroidvania with some souls-like elements. End of story. People that think it's a souls-like don't understand what a souls-like is.

[@DarkLordFluffee]

both hollow knight and blasphemous ran into the same issue where they're clearly just particularly challenging and artfully executed 'Vanias, but since everybody's frame of reference for difficulty and "deep lore" these days is Souls they get thrown in the box with anything even remotely souls flavored.

[@TwilitBeholder]

"FromSoftware only has one dud" RE: "It's fine to think DS2 is the worst of the FromSoft games" ...So, we're not gonna acknowledge that Ninja Blade exists anymore?

[@thebestatbeingaverage-_-3541]

I can see where people come from when they compare hollow knight to soulslike games, they use very similar worldbuilding and lore tropes, tying most of their lore to items found in game. And both have a "fallen" world long gone atmosphere that put the player in a very similar mindset when played casually.

[@nameerfrevilo6627]

I used arcane for my first play-through and I didn't find it hard set up, just use the flame sprayer for BSB and Amelia and go to the lecture building as soon as possible to get the Auger of Ebrietas and a bunch of blood echoes.

[@Aramaru-fq2gn]

Flame sprayer is ridiculous

[@ruinernergigante5085]

Rosmarinus is best

[@Betaster3000]

How did you know that the auger was there when it was your first playthrough

[@nameerfrevilo6627]

@@Betaster3000 well I played through a little bit of the game on my very first play through with the saw cleaver, though I only got past Amelia and accidentally wound up in the lecture building, so I explored and found the auger of ebrietas, though I couldn’t use it. At that point I just quit that character and started a new one, which was my arcane build, and I completed the game (including the dlc) with that character, I count that as my first character.

[@ClimbinInYoWindows97]

I could see how people mistake Hollow Knight for a souls-like. The atmosphere and tone are very souls-like, and the methods in which you discover the lore is very souls inspired. However the core gameplay loop is what puts it in the metroidvania category. Kind of like if souls and Castlevania had a child, but the child got 75% of its genes from the Castlevania side

[@eclipzee4027]

the main FromSoftware game I did not care for was Ninja Blade, I was not about a 3 stag qte to flip a switch

[@AwfulWeather5684]

I have only ever fought orphan of kos one time, because I killed him first ever try. And I like bragging about it. Ludwig took me 30+ tries though... Currently on my second ever bloodborne playthrough, I love this game

[@i8bitbarber69]

Omg that first glitch with the wolf holy crap dude

[@RANDOMIGUANNA]

Bloodborne players, are you there

[@cinnamonwaffle1932]

Some people just don’t understand that if a boss is hard it’s not a “souls like”

[@Josh-xd1dg]

Your underrated my guy you need more subs!keep up the content tho I love all the souls and souls like games out there

[@TheeMonkeMan]

@@jennifermunoz582 who asked?

[@josiapicard215]

if this guy stops playing bloodborne i will cry

[@greysonberry5055]

i know no one probly read this but o well, i think bloodborne and god of war are both great games, but in there own right, i dont think you can compare them because they are both different

[@Noone-pf8sb]

Fun Run! Thanks for uploading :D

[@TheGbenfo16]

So i just starting viewing your channel this being the first video i have watched. Mixed emotions for god of war obviously, i dont play souls like games because i dont have patients lmao. But i wanna start. My question is how do you feel about god of war, as a god of war game. Not from a souls like point of view

[@ScheffCity]

People compare HK to Souls because it takes things from them like Souls takes from Metroid. They're distant cousins. They're heavy in adventure, high skillcap and obviously the boss fights are the highlights, but that doesn't mean they are even close to the same genre

[@thenarrative6194]

Susie Skinflaps??? I just subscribed 🤣🤣🤣

[@a_tiny_elephant-886]

To me the souls games are an unforgiving gauntlet that gives you the freedom to approach it how you want, theirs other aspects to the formula, but I think that's what really what holds it together, it's s 3d person action game with enough freedom to make it feel like an rpg

[@Linealo]

Tbh, this whole Hollow Knight discussion is so over the top. Sure, you shouldn't judge a game before you've played it, but the dedication some people put into convincing someone to do something they don't feel like doing is mindbaffeling. Yes, Hollow Knight is probably the most souls like metroidvania, but by no stretch a "classic souls like". It shares similarities like the death mechanic, the way bosses and areas are handled and then throws in its own stuff like upgrade instead of clothes, but for the same reason Hollow Knight is not considered a true souls like, Paper Mario also isin't considered a jump and run. Just because Paper Mario shares similar settings, the ability to jump and run and the topic of traversing levels, it is not really considered a jump and run genre game like Mario Bros is. Mario Galaxy neither - that one is a 3D-platformer and while platformers and jump and run are close, and metroidvanias and souls likes can also be close, they are not the same thing. That's why those genres have different names. They can be some of everything and maybe two or three things at once, but usually there's one main genre you can sort them into. So just because a game has elements of something else, it's not automatically and fundamentals a completely different genre. To end this in a personal note: I, as someone souling myself, enjoyed Hollow Knight not because OF but FOR it's souls inspired elements. I didn't play it because it's "souls like" but because it shared a fresh spin on to me familiar elements while being in another main genre I can enjoy. If this type of spin, be it the 2D or what else, isin't Zeus thing, then that's fine. Not saying he shouldn't try it (I guess he would still end up liking it in some way or another), but I can see how DarkSouls and souls like exploration have a very different taste to the 2D-Platfroming jump and run that Hollow Knight has. And that's fine!

[@TheeMonkeMan]

@@OXY187 ok then. Why did you need to tell us?

[@malafakka8530]

Bloodborne is probably my favorite game of the last 5 years, but come on, 2 out of 10 for God of War combat is a gross exaggeration.

[@itsSmiv]

Zeus says some really ignorant shit when he's salty. Compare any game to his precious bloodborne and he instantly hates it purely out of salt and spite.

[@justrcd]

I love bloodborne personally and God of war, amazing combat systems but what (in my opinion) has them both beat is devil may cry

[@fartchamber12]

the recent God of War combat is honestly similar to bloodborne idk how you could love one and hate the other

[@jizou1581]

@@fartchamber12 not at all. both very different. god of war has been and still is a hack and slash

[@fartchamber12]

@@jizou1581 The boss battles and single enemy fights in the new god of war absolutely take homage from the soulsborne series, it still has hack and slash elements / sections but it's just wrong to say that's all it is.

[@jdwentworth1746]

A very underrated game is salt and sanctuary

[@jacksonwoods5692]

I watched this video late, but you’re right on hollow knight Zeus. Don’t get the souls comparison at all. Sorry you get bombarded with requests or comments about the game, keep playing whatever you wanna play cause I’ll always come back to watch ya!

[@SleepyPitou]

the only dud in from softwares history is that we still haven't gotten Armored Core 6 :< a new from software mecha game would be sooo good. Like seriously Armored Core is amazing

[@KrazyKrzysztof]

Yes. I played some of the older armored core PS1 games like a year ago and they were pretty good

[@mr.bigshot9987]

Oh hey it's the guy that died and raged at khezu