Fall of Rome - Homebrewy McHomebrewface

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Storyteller for this game: Ben & Patters
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Intro visuals created by Jon from Luke & Dad Productions kzbin.info/door/pgYQfeCc88p7vESb8nM3dQ
Intro music - Private Reflection by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Night Phase music - Time Passes by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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Other music by Karl Casey @WhiteBatAudio
CHAPTERS
0:00:00 - Intro and Character Selection
0:03:12 - Night 1
0:20:20 - Day 1
0:37:00 - Night 2
0:44:50 - Day 2
1:02:32 - Night 3
1:05:52 - Day 3
1:21:34 - Night 4
1:26:37 - Day 4
1:36:38 - Night 5
1:40:43 - Day 5

[@chris7coleman]

this is by far my favourite Rome based Blood on the Clocktower homebrew :)

[@hillrp1]

I like these fully homebrewed scripts. They tend to be very flavourful. But they are not the easiest games to follow on a first pass. Still fun, though

[@kyleb8117]

The only downside is they're often not playtested thoroughly, so they can often be an unbalanced mess. I could, however, easily think of a handful of them I'd suggest. At least a couple I've seen played by other BotC streamers/KZbinrs.

[@eddielikesfish7114]

me and my friends have a whole homebrew script and its so so cursed

[@InfinityEnterprises]

I’d love to see more of this script, to see how the metas develop. There’s so much good stuff in there.

[@mart9125]

Dang, I'd love to play this at some point. Looks really well built.

[@savemecc]

I haven't been this lost on a game in a long time. I love it! Has to be horrible to keep track while running though.

[@shespeex8413]

Daddy Ben sliding in with the excellent “Hitchhiker’s Guide” joke!

[@masterjbt]

I’ve played this script before. It was fun convincing the hannibal that they are the demon, as the augur

[@TheMatinow]

Amazing script! I would love to see it played with other demons.

[@gabichete]

would love to see you play more homebrew scripts (and this one again!) pretty overwhelming to learn so many new characters and interactions, but in a good way

[@thaddeusarden2189]

totally, i’d love to see a game or two of new world chaos by besjbo. it’s a pretty overwhelming script, but it’s probably easier to whisper track on the new app.

[@itsGabrielaCristina]

This was so much fun to watch! Would absolutely love more plays of this script

[@MalakaiSilverWolf]

This script was a blast but hurt my head to play in xD had to break our a google sheets out to keep track of everything. Still i wouldnt mind having a go at it again :3

[@LookItsBaz]

This was so hard to follow as my first experience with the script. I imagine it being even harder as a storyteller. Am I correct in thinking that Jacqui had been Cleo Chosen on the day Jacqui nominated Chiz to learn that one of Chiz’s neighbors was evil and should have died in the night instead of learning that fact?

[@TianaJD423]

Incase you were still curious. Jacqui was nominated by Chiz which let her use her power, but she did not nominate anyone that day so she did not die. I went back and watched it to see. That was the night of no deaths because neither of the Cleo chosen people nominated. I agree that it’s very hard to follow 😂

[@jamieb0tc]

This script must have been made by a Wrong'un.

[@AlexS_1999]

“When in Rome” - Wrong’un, 2023 AD

[@TheGamblingisgood]

Do as the Wrong'uns do.

[@nickwulfe]

Man, I'd love to see the crew from NRB play this

[@adahliz]

they did it on their patreon!

[@larissakasian4354]

This script blew my head off in the best way possible 🤯🤯

[@scrungozeclown836]

They forgot Hannibal can cause two deaths in the night arbitrarily

[@alchemicpink2392]

And also no deaths, but it's a homebrew script barely anyone knows the ins and outs to. Though a Hannibal could've trounced this group.

[@TBLIVIN]

Ben so humble here out of his element

[@Shadowknight1224]

I loved this! Please do more homebrew scripts, they seem like a ton of fun :D

[@lecommentar9851]

If Sculptor is a Bad Omen, shouldn't they technically learn the incorrect sculpture?

[@sashagornostay2188]

Truly a good homebrew script

[@PaddleboardingFL]

definitely should have pushed harder on jc clown evil team

[@smartg27]

Wouldnt a bad omen sculptor learn the wrong statue

[@Wyrd-Oh]

I'm kinda curious, I think I remember Ben saying in one of the NRB games that the specific wording of the Monk's ability being "is safe from the demon"" meant the player they chose was also safe from the effects and other abilities of demons. Has this been changed to just attacks or should Kohav as the Centurion not have been able to die because she was "safe" on the first night when chosen?

[@whocares2277]

Kohav claimed Spartacus, making her drunk so her ability didn't do anything.

[@Wyrd-Oh]

@@whocares2277 I just figured it would also technically have protected her from even being chosen by Cleopatra, but I guess the choice doesn't really do anything until the following night

[@evetheeevee2977]

Wouldn't Debbie learn false info on who their sculpture is?

[@exilez99]

Is there somewhere I can get a PDF of the script and also while the json text loads of the custom script it doesnt have any of the artwork for the characters - is there a way to get the artwork into the custom script as well? Would like to play this online with my friends.

[@alchemicpink2392]

This gives me some confidence that some of the character's I've been brewing in my personal cauldron aren't that far off in terms of playability. . For this next block of text the BotC staff might wanna look away for similar reasons why writers don't engage with fanfiction of their own work I guess, because I've got an Outsider that's very similar to the Bad Omen, a Demon and a character throuple where I wanna hear opinions from other players. . . Thrifter (Outsider): You learn a not in play townsfolk. You are mad that you are that character or you might be executed. You might register as that character (even when dead) [+1 Outsider] Their purpose is similar to Bad Omen, but they always were intended to have the option to pull the pin and take out their bad info in exchange for forcing a day to end. Phantom (Demon): Every day a player dies by execution. Thrice per game, each night*, you choose a player. If they are good they become evil. If they are an Outsider they also become a not in play Minion. [-2 Minions, +1 Outsider] The Phantom is meant to be a difficult Demon to play by being a bit of a blend of the Pit Hag's chaos, the Fang Gu's town nerfery via outsiders and the Leviathan's ticking clock, but softened and subtler for balance purposes. I am a huuuuge fan of stuff like Grandmother and Evil Twin, so I'll throw in a throuple of characters that I feel can work in most scripts in order of "Wait, I need an explanaition": Pest (Minion): One alive good neighbor of yours is poisoned until you or they die. If you poison the Charlatan they die and you become drunk, you cannot poison the Charlatan on the first night. [+1 Charlatan] Charlatan (Outsider): You think you are the Apothecary but you are not. Each night, choose a player. If they are the Pest they die tomorrow, if they are Townsfolk they become drunk. If the Pest dies this way you become the Apothecary. [-1 Apothecary] Apothecary(Townsfolk): Each night, choose a player. They are sober and healthy until dusk.

[@gabrielquaid1422]

Will characters that didn't come with the base game be purchasable soon? If they are,where do i buy them?

[@BloodontheClocktower]

They'll be part of planned, future expansions. You can read about them in the back on the core rulebook. - Ben

[@Hannifer]

Anyone seen this played on any other videos? I know patters has streamed it in the past but don't think the video's available any more

[@BloodontheClocktower]

There's going to be an NRB Patreon game of it this month. - Ben

[@Hannifer]

Amazing! Thank you I'll look out for it

[@Zedja]

Some of these would be nice to see in the regular game as well.

[@BloodontheClocktower]

We can't produce other peoples' character ideas and sell them as our own. That would be immoral and illegal. However, I know of several people who have made their own homebrew tokens or tokens of popular homebrew scripts. - Ben

[@Zedja]

@@BloodontheClocktower You can, if you get the permission to do so and give the credit to the creator. Some people would most likely love to see their ideas added to the official game.

[@jellis]

Or use them as one-off Amnesiac abilities. Though they would need to be tweeked slightly to fit with current script characters. Also may be enough change to not be completely stealing the idea anyways.

[@BloodontheClocktower]

While a lovely idea, because of how manufacturing works it actually costs a lot more than people realise to produce this and therefore wouldn't be feasible/affordable for such a small company to produce (what I assume would be) a fairly small run of token sheets. It's for this reason that we've always been hands-off with folks who build their own grimoires/token sheets. - Ben

[@Zedja]

@@BloodontheClocktower That's understandable, but that doesn't leave out the option to get permission to use those custom roles together with the more standard ones on a custom script. Doesn't mean the roles have to be officially released to do that or you wouldn't have played this script on stream in the first place.

[@savemecc]

Is there any other channels on KZbin that have a playthrew of this script?

[@jellis]

I believe I saw at least one player perspective game by Patters on their channel (PattersTTV?).

[@jellis]

Looks like Arif just posted one on his channel today as well. I'm about to watch that one now.

[@ookazi1000]

@44:00, wait isn't "The demon is an even number of steps away from JC" a non-statement in the context of a twelve-player game. Going clockwise, Jacqui kohov, jojo, Nicky, Ekin, and Aggie are 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10 steps away. But, going anti-clockwise, Clown, Chiz, Malakai, Shade, Debbie, and JC are 2, 4, etc steps away. And that's everyone in the grim, innit? Complete non-statement.

[@stephenberg6438]

It's reasonable to assume they meant Clockmaker steps, i.e. the shortest path. Edit because I just counted: also no, in a 12-player game the parity is the same regardless of which direction you pick. Aggie is 1 step from JC counterclockwise and 11 steps clockwise. The question splits the Grim in two no matter what.

[@ookazi1000]

@@stephenberg6438 You're correct and I was previously sleep deprived by my own deciding.

[@flashystorm]

Can you help me understand why the Bad Omen Sculptor learns the actual correct player that they sculpted?

[@mawillix2018]

Short Answer: The player they learn, becomes the sculpture. Long Answer: They have to learn "a player". IF they could "falsely" learn a player, the rest of the Sculptor's ability refers to the player they incorrectly learnt.

[@ladygeneveve3805]

Because theyre handling 12 characters theyve never seen before

[@michaelkaram467]

​@mawillix2018 vortoxed grandmother learns a player who isn't there grandchild and the rest of its ability happens when their real grandchild is killed nothing that would stop that here

[@magnus0017]

Saw this script a little bit ago, so excited to see it get played. (⁠・⁠∀⁠・⁠)

[@zivosthrintolimgren3513]

This is beyond insanity in the best way! Father Benjamin, I beseech you! Should the No Rolls Barred crew manage to get a second live-action season of Blood on the Clocktower, I fervently submit that THIS script must be played for their final episode.....no, their GRAND FINALE! The title of that NRB video can be called "Fall of Ravenswood Bluff"

[@samjohnson4751]

Ben replied to another comment and said there's gonna be an NRB patreon game of it this month.

[@challst]

Budding Storyteller here - fairly confident with Trouble Brewing, dipping my toe in other scripts. Enjoyed the viewing as always, but admit that I have some troubles with the Script. Maybe it was lack of familiarity but the evil side seemed weak. The Glycon ability may be strong but appeared to be worthless here. Did it ever do anything? Would it be a better ability if the 'detect as good' be better as 'detect as good even if dead'? Also, they chose to give a 3 when Debbie 'could register as Evil'. What was the reason behind this? Was it to make Chiz not trust his information? To that point all his info was believable. I know that JC had already nominated Aggie but if he hadn't, could he have nominated Clown, made Clown drunk and then not had a rock-paper-scissors? Just a thought on how a Glykon might play to hold back nominating so that they could protect against this (of course also guessing that a Gladiator is in play). I admit I don't love the rock-paper-scissors mechanic either (even with the Psychopath). Interesting take on the Demona: Cleopatra was interesting but I imagine frustrating to play - are there rules to have a minimum player count to use her (is that even needed)? Crassus I don't like but would have to watch a play with it to understand better. I don't really understand Hannibal - would each player get a 'good' role to be that never does anything because they are actually the Hannibal? Does the remaining Hannibal after a Hannibal death know that they are evil then? If two Hannibals and a Minion survive to the day of 3 alive does evil win or are they allowed to try to kill each other (just did the math and clearly time to call the win because either Hannibal death is a win for evil and a Minion death leads to 2 alive with a demon alive). Do the Minions know who their Demons are (which would be cool because they wouldn't necessarily what to tell them because as soon as they did when one died it would know - so maybe a strategy is to tell one and try to ride that train to victory). The Hannibal is growing on me more for the Minion interactions than anything else. Love the Caesar. The best roles: Winemaker, Temptress, Augur, Physician, Blacksmith - I think all of these roles (plus Ceasar) could be put in no Rome scripts unchanged.

[@BloodontheClocktower]

It's worth keeping in mind that this isn't an official script. It's been created by a fan and so probably won't have the same level of polish that the official ones do. - Ben