Blue Angels in DCS World 4k Diamond Flight, #2, 3, and 4 POV w/ radio communications

[@kylerandle22]

Her: He’s probably talking to other girls online in there. Him: . . .

[@twisantigo]

Awesome comment

[@nielssrensen7268]

Speechless - and I spend a fair amount of time in DCS

[@spencerwarren9219]

Yea i just have trouble flying paint in dcs with my buddy let alone 2 more. And not near that close when we do

[@kurtedwards3213]

If i didn't know better i would have thought that this was a real blue angels air show awesome job 👍👍👍👍👍

[@flake8382]

Coop, love how you set your target designate on centerpoint so you could see the mark on your hud. My man uses all of the hornet.

[@Coop22]

💪🏼

[@kylerandle22]

This is my dream to get to this level! Love it! Awesome show!

[@pilotben97]

Thanks, practice is the key.

[@spwb2k]

Me earlier today: watching a solo F-18 DCS clip and thinking hey there must be folks out there formation flying in real time in their own blue angels teams. This is really cool, but Id love to see the blooper reel :)

[@mauimikeable]

After watching you guys today at VFAT 2020 you left me speechless! Absolutely amazing tribute and pure class! Cant wait to see the video of today's performance on your channel. The supers will be insane

[@pilotben97]

Hey, thank's for the comment, it was an impressive show, but as mentioned in the description we are not the Virtual Blue Angels - our end goal however is to create a full-length video at some point which will be on Coop's channel (also linked in the description) so keep an eye out for that. We do this for fun, and fly the demo using the ED F/A-18C, the VBA currently fly a mod.

[@mauimikeable]

Absolutely awesome! Love the VR BLUE ANGELS. Hoping you’ll be in the Supers soon.

[@noles0649]

Awesome job! What I love the most is you knowing the cadence of the commander!

[@samanders2676]

This is the single most impressive thing I’ve ever seen on DCS!

[@TheIronhideChronicles]

Outstanding! I literally thought you were the actual BAs until I read the description fully again. Excellent job

[@flake8382]

Honestly, Love your work. I watched Coops tutorial on Lead and this just tops it all off. Love it.

[@I_like_a10]

Honestly the lead can be a good singer too This deservers more recognition

[@vokphz1946]

Dude this video is amazing bro, I am in a roblox blue angels group and this really helped me out on the formations and etc.

[@michaelthompson6332]

Wich team

[@carsonmcmasters]

@@michaelthompson6332 Its immortal's, pretty bad.

[@plan5s]

Immortal? I know him I am in banana533s group a friend of him that owns a BA

[@michaelthompson6332]

@@carsonmcmasters I’m the lead pilot on immortals team lol

[@captaineagles3580]

LMAO

[@lilsponge777]

This video needs way more thumbs up. Amazing! Loved it.

[@pilotben97]

Thanks!

[@mr.coilsgarage1739]

awsome froggin job guys. 1-4 are beasts. great call outs and communication

[@GTthebusiness]

Well... my mind was just blown. I’ve got some practicing to do! Hahaha

[@pilotben97]

Thanks, yeah, that's all it is, lots of practicing!

[@Tridan24]

This is an absolutely outstanding display of skill.

[@rakedos9057]

Thank you very much for sharing this. Comm + Cockpit views are so much better imo

[@dunbar555]

I did virtual formation flying “Professionally” back in 2004`2005 and can appreciate the quality and dedication of this ! Impressive. Special mention for the custom cockpits

[@pilotben97]

Thanks

[@jtffbison79thfs27]

I just don't know how you guys are doing this ! For me it is hard to stay smoothly into my leader's wing for a small turn !! Huge respect

[@pilotben97]

Just lots and lots of practice. Thanks

[@jtffbison79thfs27]

@@pilotben97 So I'm going to keep practicing then 😂

[@rederos8079]

That guy loves to sing, well done guys!

[@brothermanv]

Up we gooooo 🎶

[@helio295]

Quite amazing! I have worked with the Blue Angels several times and this is quite the feat.

[@pilotben97]

Thanks

[@ospreys48]

Incredibly awesome. Thank you.

[@Coop22]

Great video dude, thanks for putting this together!

[@johnpeak475]

Dang impressive guys. Just holding similar speed is difficult enough during maneuvers like that, keeping it close like a bunch of bosses. Good job

[@randywimberley9406]

As a huge aviation fan. This is a virtual reality video. May I say well done! Beautiful!

[@pilotben97]

Thanks.

[@rfarley565656]

I'm very impressed, amazing, this is the best flightsim video I've ever seen. I was trying to figure out if you were the real BA's. Your skills really shine, be proud. Thank you.....

[@pilotben97]

Thanks, appreciate it.

[@UnknownUser-yu9rp]

It's very good idea to do a voice accompaniment when pulling the stick or powering up so wingmen can be more precise in it! Nice Job!

[@KillerKev1961]

OUTSTANDING.

[@damnfk063]

That connection lost sent my mind for a loop. I actually clenched a little. Until he just went through the number one plane

[@daveg5857]

Awesome! You guys are good! This is so much better than I can do. I need some formation practice.

[@pilotben97]

Thanks, just a lot of practice, everyone can get there with enough work!

[@daveg5857]

@@pilotben97 Do you have any suggestions for doing that in single player? Can you set up aerobatic routines in ME and form up?

[@pilotben97]

@@daveg5857 Not really to be honest. The AI isn't accurate enough to set up what you're looking for, you can get some general formation practice in by flying off a singular aircraft that makes some turns, but that's about it. AAR may be the best substitute for close formation flying until you can find someone to fly with online - focus on not disconnecting at any point during normal flight, turns, etc.

[@daveg5857]

@@pilotben97 Thanks, man. AAR is SO hard! I'm almost there. Cheers.

[@RichardHamilton2014]

Incredible flying guys! ... just WOW!

[@FREDCONNOR-000-d5w3c]

wATCHED THIS VID SEVERAL TIMES NOW:::SO IMPRESSIV::

[@sebastienguillem4878]

Just incredible love patrol flight!!

[@justinjerskey]

How did you guys get this paint scheme for the F-18? I have a blue angels DCS mod but it is the legacy hornet and not the super hornet.

[@pilotben97]

The aircraft in this video is the legacy Hornet as it was before the team switched aircraft, however now we use the CJS Super Hornet mod with an in-house paint.

[@asblueangels7799]

This is amazing for vr tbh

[@alaskanstrat6618]

Lookin so damn good :) great flight !

[@pilotben97]

Thanks Yogi, hope you are doing well.

[@TheCasualSirenEnthusiast]

when he says "moooore powerrrr" that just kills me

[@charlylesuedois4129]

Amazing !!! Great job guys !!

[@jellyman8968]

Imagine one’s internet goes down

[@damnfk063]

19:00

[@shawnomack45]

Holly shit. I need to get this game and try this. Love the blue angles. Been to Many airshows and this was really good.

[@pilotben97]

Thanks, just a bunch of practice, and the right group of people

[@TheMicroproductions]

Phenomenal. Well done.

[@operxtorhxz]

This is fantastic! This truly is pure skill. #4 came sooooo close to hitting #2 multiple times, and it had me so worried! Other than that, you guys have some crazy good skills! 👍🎉🙂

[@pilotben97]

Thanks, while there were some places that we got close 4 trusts me to stay in my "box" - the region I should keep my jet in to stay safe - and vice versa, if either of us doesn't feel comfortable to do that we would space out.

[@Andrew-13579]

It’s ok, 2 and 3 have rubber Sidewinder rails for any bumps. 😄. They looked closer than 36 inches at times. I don’t know how they do it. Looked amazing. And how the sim works that well over Internet! #2 lost server connection and the pilot had to grab another F-18, power it up and take off and rejoin the diamond…but with another #4. Should have been a #8, I think. #7 is a 2-seater, but DCS doesn’t have the F-18D.

[@eliashernandez1391]

very nice! looks legit. That takes skill even in DCS.👍👍👍👍👍

[@hobbytechgearID69]

Great flight 😯👍👍👍

[@whnunlife]

Solid job guys!

[@pilotben97]

Thanks

[@JaneDoe-ip5yl]

"H e r e weee g o o o owah maybe this is like meditation

[@toose70]

This is very impressive. Just remind No 4 to rudder over into rear position (wings level) in the diamond after take off, not roll, big no no. Fantastic stuff though!

[@pilotben97]

DCS doesn't have enough rudder authority for that move at the correct pace

[@SurfVR]

Great job guys!

[@BlameeeJay]

The solos in the background are ripping it up 😂😂😂

[@pilotben97]

Always do

[@mariusbosinceanu4170]

OMFG, OMFG, amaizing !!!!! Congrats !!!!

[@mypfpwillbeanft4080]

I’m convinced you guys were ex blue angels pilots irl

[@pilotben97]

I wish.

[@misskittyny]

Awsome! Good Morning, ✈✈✈💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@FREDCONNOR-000-d5w3c]

great wow..i love it !!!!!!!!

[@12b_engineer]

Mind blown

[@MOTO809]

Where did you find the Blue's dashboard? I was thinking the other day it would be cool if you get the special cockpit when you select the Blue's livery.

[@pilotben97]

We didn't, members of the group made it. It's available on the user files here: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3307121/

[@MOTO809]

@@pilotben97 Awesome man, thanks!

[@Tyressey]

Outstanding!!!!

[@LE4DB4TH]

Way to go #2 on the quick rejoin

[@mraviatorboii2510]

Amazing!!! Wonder if you guys will do the Thunderbirds with the ED Viper Module ??

[@pilotben97]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHS7cqWJbbxsnqM We have done so from time to time including this flight with 12 of us, but currently, we are focusing on Blues.

[@Aeroknots]

Very Impressive!

[@dougroberts3840]

Great job guys, Now hold my beer and watch this

[@phoeniximperium8608]

I have a technical question. Trim settings for takeoff. I heard the "1 down" in the takeoff checks, but how to you avoid that "pop" up as the nose comes off, it looks really smooth as they come off. It seems they all have different stab angles in the video right before takeoff, is that because they're holding some forces in? It looks like it's 18, 12, and zero.

[@pilotben97]

Prior to taxiing we have the stick neutralized, and most of us have the artificial spring on (one of the mods we use which changes where you need to hold the stick for level flight), this will make the stab pos 0 (no spring), -1 (spring on with low tension), or -2 (spring on with high tension). Once we stop on the runway those of us using the spring set takeoff trim (+10 or +11 for stab pos). Then as we accelerate down the runway we all pull back to get off the runway at the same time leading to slightly different stab pos numbers. As soon as we get off the ground we are decreasing back pressure to stop the climb, and on Boss’ “a little drive” we raise the flaps which also stops the ballooning. More than anything it takes a LOT of practice to make it look that smooth, and is particularly important that boss is consistent in how he imitates the takeoff.

[@phoeniximperium8608]

@@pilotben97 Awesome man, thanks so much for the quick reply. You guys make it look easy! And thanks for doing this video, tons of good info to go off.

[@jupitersteam8321]

second to only the real blue angels!

[@Coop22]

Appreciate the kind words!

[@trevorbyrd1254]

is there a video on how to download the Blue Angels equipment? im struggleing a little

[@dontaddmehobo]

holy fuck that's impressive

[@johnnyappleseed68]

this is great!!! I wish i could get down but im a sad case

[@aoyisu1653]

Amazing job!

[@pilotben97]

Thank you!

[@melvinelder3587]

I was wondering why you were singing the maneuvers but then I remembered the pre flight that this years chief pilot does, that’s just a pre flight tradition, they don’t actually do that during the air show lol, when your doing maneuvers you want them to be precise you don’t want to drag it out and sing it!

[@pilotben97]

I am in the 2 jet here, so I only make a few calls aside from my checkins (“Razor”), but the communications you hear is the cadence the real team uses during all of their airshows, and have done so for decades. The cadence of the words determines the intensity of the action, for example “up we gooo” is very different to “uppp weeee goooooo”, and if the wingmen hear the second we expect a longer and more aggressive pull on the stick.

[@melvinelder3587]

@@pilotben97 hm it makes sense your explanation it just seems a little odd to hear over a sim I guess, every other time I see maneuvers being done like out in the fleet it’s always a precise action, it may just be a blue angle tradition then, the Thunderbirds don’t do it and fleet 18’s don’t do it when doing maneuvers but I’m not that knowledgeable on the blue angles so sorry, the only time I’ve actually heard someone talk in this cadence is in the briefings so

[@pilotben97]

@@melvinelder3587 The Thunderbirds definitely do it as well, the fleet flies much further apart, and rarely fly parade formations, and as such don't need to make the calls for precise movements.

[@pilotben97]

@@melvinelder3587 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ_OgayQjaeNqMk

[@travistomcat9535]

Many flips do approve

[@Coop22]

23:18 fLiP

[@Wolfy101st]

Just ! Im , fantastic.

[@БрюсКайл]

Underrated

[@TeamTurbulenceAirshows]

Do y’all still fly together and do y’all ever fly MSFS? Looked great fellas🤘

[@pilotben97]

Yes, my most recent video is a recording of us flying a show in December. No, not as a team we do not, most of us have the sim but to fly other stuff.

[@carrierlandinghdlegacyhorn2686]

Could you ask the boss this question? “Is it hard to get down to the specific altitude with perfect runway heading, just in front of the CP when doing the Diamond 360"

[@pilotben97]

Hey, I lead a different team doing the same demo so I can answer that question for you directly: Unequivocally; yes. Honestly lineups in general are one of the hardest things to get right when you are learning to lead a demo like this, the maneuvers you get used to somewhat quickly if you have a leading mindset, but lineups are very very sensitive to mistakes. If you forget to/can’t turn until you are 2 seconds past where you need to you could miss a line by anywhere from 500-2k feet depending on all your other parameters and how quickly you notice your error. The Diamond 360 and Fan Break are 2 of the most difficult ones to get right because boss cannot make any adjustments once he says the maneuver is ‘set’, so typically you are committed to a line (good or bad) when you’re more than 90 degrees from show center while descending. These maneuvers are also seriously sensitive to entry speed, if you’re even 20 knots slow or fast your bank angle and G needs to correct for it. Hope that answers your question.

[@carrierlandinghdlegacyhorn2686]

@@pilotben97 Thank you for answering. If you remember me, I’m the guy who asked a lot of questions related to Blue Angles on Instagram, my account name was something like FELLY Hayabusa with a blue icon. Thank you for those questions back then. I totally agree what you said. The FanBreak and Diamond360, (these are completely the same for the lead, right?) are the most sensitive maneuvers I feel. I fly in another sim, and this is the video of me doing Fan Break kzbin.info/www/bejne/boasZ2Vug7uFr6M I finally got it by breaking it down into 3 parts. The parts are decided by the heading, the first part, second part, then the final part. The bank angle is the same in all the parts, but the Gs are different just like you guys VBA. I think the initial speed is different from VBA because of the different drag index between our sims. I pull 1.7G in the first part, then add pull to 2.1G in the second part, then 2.2G in the final part. This is my technique. In this way, I get it the sam way every time I try it. Of course, setting up for the maneuver is very important too. However the biggest problem is the wind, I practice this with 0 wind. So I have no idea how the winds affect this sensitive maneuver. Do you use the ground speed for this maneuver, or just the IAS on your HUDD? For the set up(for me, it is 345kt, yes, very fast), I need to decide which one I use. Thanks.

[@EdGhost]

Wow really nice

[@Gregor-the-DCS-Master]

this is awesome how do you learn something like this in dcs?

[@MoDrazzz]

I haven’t found an answer in comments below, so here I go; do you guys have wake turbulance option set to on? Is it even possible in DCS to fly for instance Diamond 360 with wake turbulance on? Cheers!

[@pilotben97]

We do not, I cannot remember if this flight was before or after wake turbulence was released, but the way ED has implemented wake turbulence is unrealistic when you are close to other aircraft - it is passable/good at a distance, but when you are close it behaves very oddly. For example I fly 4 now, and if I fly above and behind Boss’ jet for the Double Farvel I will be physically unable to maintain position because for some reason the wake off his jet rises up instead of down like it should. Additionally as you mentioned the 360 was an interesting one with wt on, last time we tested it you got sucked into boss’ wing on both wings instead of pushed gently away (this push is not actually caused by wt irl, rather the air compressing between the wing and canopy, but it definitely shouldn’t suck you in). Finally (not really, but for this comment at least so it’s not too long), with the correct in-trail spacing on final approach again the wake does not dissipate or descend enough and appears to actually ‘climb’ as even with the appropriate slight offset vertically 2-6 get hammered with wake trying to land, to the point of being unsafe. Unfortunately like most things ED does not test this stuff for accuracy in the formation environment much less close formation, like I said it’s kind of ok at a distance and was neat for rejoins as it appeared to work correctly based on some videos of the real team rejoining through each others wake, but once you get close it just kind of falls apart from a realism perspective. Thanks for the question.

[@MoDrazzz]

@@pilotben97 Thank you for such a detailed answer, very appreciate it! Have a fun during your oprations, keep on rocking!

[@SimbaC2007]

hoiw much spring does #3 s strength use?

[@pilotben97]

He is the only one that doesn’t use it.

[@SimbaC2007]

@@pilotben97 holy im not sure how he does that, what stick does he use?

[@Coop22]

@@SimbaC2007 I use the X-52 Pro

[@SimbaC2007]

@@Coop22 thanks!

[@victorgamarra64]

Amazing! Are you guys pilots in real life?

[@pilotben97]

Thanks, some members are professional pilots, some have a license, some are student pilots, and some have little to no real experience.

[@taylorpilewski]

Any particular settings you'd recommend for learning to fly close together? I'm learning and have gotten significantly better over the past month but if there are any tips you'd recommend that would be cool.

[@drew21t]

The best tip I got was to setup a mission and have an NPC fly some route of your choice and you try to stay with them.

[@Coop22]

Continued practice is the best and most effective training tool. It sounds cliche but is very much the truth. Any way to practice form is good practice.

[@SurfVR]

Is there any chance you guys would share what HOTAS your using, and if using Warthog - could you post your User throttle curves? I know doing what you do, is not a curve thing - its practice. Still Im hoping for a couple of small hints to make my touch around mil power / max power feel a bit more comfy.

[@_wingflexaviation_]

I use around 28-30 on the Pitch Axis for my Warthog. In truth even if it's the same stick you'll probably have to play around with which value works best for you.

[@pilotben97]

Some of us use the Thrustmaster Warthog, others use VIRPIL sticks, and 1 uses a Saitek X52, I don't think anyone has curves on the throttle, just pitch (between 25 and 30 normally). The biggest thing for throttle is moving the power up and down over and over when you go into burner in formation.

[@SurfVR]

pilotben97 Thx to both of you. This was helpful! I will be running somewhere between 15-20 on pitch. And I need to rework everything on my throttle. Atleast go back to factory preset. Then remove the detent.. gotta stop that lift motion

[@SurfVR]

pilotben97 We actually manage it pretty well so far, so hopefully this will make it more consistent

[@ashleym2878]

Do you guys fly real life formation aeribatics? Looks like you're taking this pretty serious. There does seem to be some teething problems with the sim but might be a great training tool for real life

[@pilotben97]

Some of the team members have varying experience in formation IRL, we really do try to do it correctly. Really just the same general issues with any internet-based PC game. Flights sims like DCS are great at teaching/learning concepts and how to read instruments and so forth, but no sim can really teach you how to fly, especially something like this.

[@toxaq]

Jaw dropped.

[@teddywgardner21]

i wnet to it lasr year in california and it sounded and looked deadass exaclty like this

[@ashleym2878]

If anyone was wondering if dcs is a game or sim well here you go

[@princeplayz4148]

Hornets go brrrrrr

[@teddywgardner21]

u should do it in San francisco or Miami Florida

[@pilotben97]

I'm sure we would if we could, but DCS does not include the whole world, we are limited to a few regions.

[@blurfonz88]

crazy, its impossible! how did ya guys do it?

[@pilotben97]

A lot of practice and time/effort.

[@Phvpark]

little powEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer xD

[@twojstary5424]

wow! :o

[@MrBobbyf11]

What flight sim. controls did you guys use?

[@pilotben97]

We fly on DCS World, and there are a number of different control setups between the group including some VIRPIL sticks, Thrustmaster Warthogs, and Saitek X-52s.

[@MrBobbyf11]

@@pilotben97 Thanks, great job on this!

[@elliothwang5946]

New to dcs im a xplane vet doe

[@pilotben97]

Elliot Hwang it’s a fun sim, specifically for formation flying (to me at least).

[@elliothwang5946]

@@pilotben97 will give it a try

[@maxxawesome7412]

Do you guys do this in VR?

[@pilotben97]

The majority of us fly in VR, but not everyone.

[@maxxawesome7412]

@@pilotben97 thanks. Looking into getting into it. I fly real world fixed wing and rotor but am clueless on everything flight sim after Fs2004. You guys are really impressive! What controls and VR do you use? Thrust master and G2? Oculus?

[@SimbaC2007]

@@pilotben97 how do you record it?

[@ameeralmaliky6099]

I'm really confused, are you guys real blue angels pilots who play DCS or what ? ...this really mesmerizing

[@pilotben97]

No, we are a group of friends that fly the Blue Angel's demo on DCS World.

[@ameeralmaliky6099]

@@pilotben97 dude, you guys are awesome keep it going 👏

[@beanieguy_real]

game?

[@pilotben97]

DCS World

[@hbankhead3319]

what pc do you need to play this

[@pilotben97]

You can find the system requirements here, the more detail you have, or if you use VR determines if you need a more powerful computer. www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/beta/

[@hbankhead3319]

@@pilotben97 what did you use

[@TacitDragon]

Wow!!! That was totally awesome!!! This DCS world is new to me but I'm amazed at what the future holds for this technology... Watching you guys was more enjoyable than being at an actual airshow!! One maneuver I wonder if you guys considered or tried???: The F-18 Diamond Landing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqqyqJ2Vhdmnick Would love to see this done in DCS. The insights gained from your presentations is priceless!!! Looking forward to more!!!

[@pilotben97]

Greg Thomas thanks man, glad you enjoyed it: we’ve done it just messing around a couple times, but we replicate the real demo, and to our knowledge, the blues only did that once for a show in the Hornet, and then they decided it was too unsafe to continue doing so it’s not in our plans to do for any real practices. Thanks again, and be sure to watch Coop's video linked in the description a well-produced video if you liked this one.

[@albertpietrosanu2667]

You are a fucking amaizing!

[@fishernate1]

What's with the weird verbage and noises?

[@lukester2070]

I would love to see red arrows in dcs but they stopped the dlc on the hawk 😕

[@pilotben97]

There’s a team that flies a mod, but there’s also a T-45C mod that is supposed to come out soon that I’m sure someone will make a RA paint for - not the exact same plane, but close