Blue Beetle - Set Up To Fail

[@GoodDredd]

I do like that they add some reality into it. Guys gets a "degree" and thinks everything will change. Then proceeds to get a job as a janitor because said degree was worthless.

[@SneedFeeder]

That's literally a joke from Ant-Man

[@acid1787]

Only YT people get white collar jobs with a degree

[@tiffanywyatt5137]

​@@SneedFeederant man didn't do it first

[@jfayiii]

But just think of how superior you are now!

[@jasongrundy1717]

That was stupid. Right up there with his parents tossing around a gold and gem encrusted scarab obviously worth millions of dollars. The movie was full moron.

[@dylanrivera2244]

I’m just glad the costume designers were smart enough not to give the helmet a mouth like the other versions.

[@Scorpio_03_09]

Why decepticon?

[@Bonesawisready926]

As much as I like Young Justice, that shit was goofy.

[@jeepercreep12]

That's actually the problem with the suit, I would take the injustice 2 design any day over this. Well atleast it isn't "nanotechnology" that magically uncovers the head every time the character speaks, smh

[@_GeneralMechanics_]

​​@@Scorpio_03_09 From reading the DC Comic during the Infinite Crisis/52 era, it would look like pitch black blackface. The character's costume blacked out his face and he still had a visible mouth.

[@acid1787]

Woulda been better if they given him a mouth in the suit tbh.

[@jadenkorr32]

I think that Super Hero movie ‘fatigue’ is only part of the problem. Directors and actors going after fan criticisms on social media are resulting in increasing backlash as more fans become aware of it. And Blue Beetle’s director did not do his movie any favors in the public relations arena.

[@おす-qz7kp]

Super hero bad movies fatigue

[@jasongrundy1717]

There is bad movie fatigue. Everyone is desperate for a good superhero movie.

[@Raskolnikov70]

Virtue signalling fatigue is at an all-time high. When the average moviegoer is completely sick of it, any kind of social justice message is going to be box-office poison no matter how good a movie is.

[@adeemunoz5457]

Yup, bad movie fatigue. We're all looking forward to the boys 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kingsleywelch3360]

@jasongrundy1717: Superheroes are overrated and lame, nowadays. They’re power fantasies and wish fulfillment for nerds.

[@Timmmmm42y]

I think it's also worth mentioning that they released a trailer 6 months previously and did basically no advertising beyond that. I was planning to see it but didn't even relieze it was released until like a week and a half after release date.

[@jstampf6718]

I am literally just NOW learning that that it was released already!

[@teopalafox]

If you’ve been in the cinema this and Gran Tourismo Trailer would come up all the time, but nothing outside of that

[@nofilter.906]

Exactly....I saw the trailer for the movie here on KZbin MONTHS ago,but that was it!!.. it was never put " in my face " in any other way other then you tube ....I completely forgot about the movie ......no promotion

[@joanar8824]

This happened to me too! I saw the trailer on KZbin and got excited and planned to see it. I never saw any promoting for it and then, by chance, a friend told me that for movie theater day (or something) Allen theaters was doing all movies as $4 so we planned a theater day and began figuring which movies we could see at what times. Lo and behold - Blue Beetle was already in theaters and I had never even known!

[@lincolnshirepoacher9390]

Same.

[@realistic_delinquent]

You’re saying “this movie had SOME earnest people making an actual effort” I remember when that was the minimum standard…

[@patrioticcat5768]

That's because we've reduced work to the bare minimum so everytime someone does the minimum they get a participation trophy and a pat on the head. "Congrats little one, you did the bare minimum"

[@RobertoRafaf]

Was that ever really the minimum standard? People have done trash cash grab movies all the time.

[@Vile_Entity_3545]

One of the worst movies I have seen.

[@mateoreyes6921]

For real In my country, saying you did something mediocre is worse than being told you did something wrong

[@namantherockstar]

Critical Thinker inspires me.. My parents said if i get 50K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally Begging...

[@conserva-chan2735]

I'll forever feel bad that this was supposed to be Xolo's big break. He was so awesome in Cobra Kai and definitely has potential.

[@conzchannel5087]

I still believe he can be a big part in DC’s success in the future. I think it’s just that a lot of mediocre comic book movies have come out recently but there are exceptions like The Batman and Spiderman Across The Spiderverse And I still did enjoy The Flash but not a lot of people know who Blue Beetle is it all depends how James Gunn uses him in future movies

[@strawberrylotlizard]

​@@conzchannel5087but no he won't because people are fucking sick of the DC and MCU people are fucking tired all these goddamn superhero movies

[@MT_-_-_-2187]

Xolo is the worst

[@jaysenjohn304]

Loved the film and thoroughly enjoyed. It made me forget about the Flash.

[@HerculesBallsInc]

I would agree with you if he weren't completely onboard with the movie's bigoted marketing. As such, I identify him as a garbage human being and hope he meets with the appropriate fate of garbage.

[@chucksenhowzen9740]

When you have the line “Batman is a fascist” in your trailer, you turn off alot of fans

[@thekiller7994]

And barely promote the movie at all

[@GulfbeachMateo]

Oh Jesus Christ. EVERYONE from Villains like Poison Ivy to Mr Freeze, to HEROES like Green Arrow and Yes EVEN SUPERMAN have called Batman and/or his tactics Fascist for YEARS in the comics.

[@wmv8996]

George Lopez, both his character and in real life, is just crazy. He's big on conspiracies so it kinda fits him. It's just a throw away line for humor.

[@xarporte]

That is a line in a comic book that you see on TV or the internet as a selling point but a hero they are trying to mainstream when DC movies are hit and miss already.

[@ericb5328]

​@GulfbeachMateo not the point. It's about sending a message. 10 years of spite filled woke messaging is the boiling point. Absolutely no more. Regardless of what was done before. Regardless of the context. Enough is enough

[@acrylicgodoy]

I loved the Blue Beetle story in Young Justice, and the story arc with the Reach was gripping because it felt like a lose lose situation. No matter what the good guys did, they were out maneuvered. A great direction to take this movie in would have been a Tobey Maguire Spiderman 2, where Jaime cannot stand being permanently linked to the Beetle, where the voice in his head is incessantly nagging at him for dominance, torturing him psychologically. In the end, his empathy, moral compass and compassion win, but not without him making some weighty mistakes along the way. Although he wants to ditch his new power, he realizes dor better or worse it's a part of him, and he'll use it the best he can

[@DanYellowZena]

This comment all the way.

[@mosesdouglas4325]

Unfortunately that would require thought and intelligence which is non-existent in Hollywood nowadays.

[@damigamermx-us8291]

This movie is no way close to Spiderman 2 🤣🤣. And the director of Blue Beetle is an a$$hole irl and the writing is not good and very generic

[@EntidadLibre]

I don't want to know what you do for a living, because if it isn't related to script writing or storytelling of some kind, I'll feel even more sad.

[@acrylicgodoy]

@@EntidadLibre Thank you for the compliment! However, I don't write, I just love well written stories, and used to read obsessively. Maybe I'll start making my own stories🤗

[@runswithscissors9429]

"And they didnt tell Jaime about any of it because they didnt want to worry him" I came back from my first semester of college surprised to see my dads arm in a sling with pins in his thumb, because he cut it off with a saw. So that scene really hits home for me

[@franzpattison]

Rough bro

[@Sam-gw5pl]

Wow 😅 seriously

[@spentlizard353]

At my college graduation I hadn't been told prior to it that my dad had been in a very bad car accident until the day of when he had (mostly) recovered.

[@anon_y_mousse]

Talk about great family communication. "Oh yeah, by the way, your father accidentally chopped off his head, but they were totally able to reattach it and he only has a little bit of damage, such as walking sideways on Tuesdays and doing backflips onto the bed at night."

[@codymoe4986]

Your family doesn't believe in phones?

[@neilprice513]

"Never takes the time to do things properly" The perfect description of the entire DCEU

[@tiffanywyatt5137]

Marvel didn't either yet people like those

[@eduardokerber2931]

​@@tiffanywyatt5137marvel did it for long enough to keep people hooked after they stopped doing it.

[@jout738]

This movie has big plotholes, like why they keep the spider in the building with no security at all, if its so good technology. How can it get connected at your back and why they copy spider-man movies with this kind of spider technology. Then this movie has typical akward family and not that special or intresting of story, so thats why it aint that suprising for me, that this movie didnt do that well in the box office.

[@jout738]

@@tiffanywyatt5137 Marvel did it properlly from 2008 to 2019 where it ended with endgame. Since then Marvel has been preatty shite with woke politics added to their serieses and movies to make their story even worse, when it already was so bad.

[@turbo8628]

​@@eduardokerber2931 yep, early marvel started slowly, then figured out the formula, and then were terrified of moving away from that formula, eventually becoming a shadow of it's former self and at times a parody of it's former self. Early marvel became your favourite food, but after a while you get sick of eating the same thing before starting to hate it. The dc attempt was like they were racing a marathon against marvel, with marvel starting way earlier, dc thought they had to sprint to catch up, not realising it would never make it anywhere near the finish line with that approach. Marvel on the other hand finished their marathon, albeit they were tiring at the end, and their big mistake was beginning another marathon straight after. At this point they both need to just take a break.

[@L1LegoAnimations]

I think the Scarab/Jaime dynamic would've been more interesting if they'd taken cues from season 2 of the Young Justice cartoon. That Scarab was a paranoid sadist, often suggesting they kill someone on the YJ team in some creative fashion for little more than amusement. If not for fun, then to keep them from trying to hurt the Scarab (even when that clearly wasn't a concern). It was fun, in stark contrast to this version of the Scarab which was painfully boring by comparison.

[@daemonz200]

I was looking for this exactly. That was a great dynamic that was developed in that cartoon. The scarab was always recommending ruthlessly efficient solutions to problems, which contrasted with Jaime's personality. Kind of like having your intrusive thoughts on 24/7

[@rosestar1324]

This is probably the biggest thing I wish theh didn't change. The Scarab only had some conflict in that first battle scene and then nothing. Even in the Batman tbatb, Blue Beetle had some conflicts with the Scarab. Does that happen in the comics too? I only read one but I can't remember cuz it was over a decade ago. Like now a huge area of conflict is gone because they want the same things now.

[@janeenschultz8502]

Yeah, the Young Justice Scarab is the one I'm familiar with. Scarab/Blue Beetle was hardly in that, but I enjoyed him.

[@ga-eul21]

This is my cue to rewatch young justice season 2. Oh the nostalgia. Still holds up as an adult with really nuanced plots and character conflicts

[@elijahwise3060]

Yep, great point, I wish they would have also added Black Beetle from YJ season 2.

[@JeffreyDeCristofaro]

It's kinda hard not to admire any film that seems to be a case of "too little too late" but decides to go the distance anyway. Good or bad, knowing that it at least TRIED gives it a certain dimension that's hard to find in most movies nowadays.

[@WillFredward7167]

Reviews like this keep reminding me that the Drinker really is honest and fair, and he wishes more films deserved a positive review. He expected this to be pure trash, he had no faith in it, but he still tried to be as gentle as possible. He’s not mean for the sake of drama, he only rips into things that deserve it

[@oXRaptorzXo]

And he’s the only one in his “group” (with the possible exception of Mauler ) that is this way. People like nerdrotic and Geeks and gamers hate for views and attention

[@WillFredward7167]

@@oXRaptorzXo Although Nerdrotic usually has good points, I have to agree. The Drinker and Mauler are the two I like the most, because they seem the most fair and genuine. They each put on personas that make you expect them to be brutally harsh, but they still speak up when something is better than expected, or when they respect genuine effort. They might be disgusted by the mistreatment of a franchise, but if they see quality, they will mention it, even if it’s surrounded by garbage. LittlePlatoon also seems sincere, but I think his standards are a bit unrealistically high. He wasn’t even impressed with Andor.

[@estevaoang]

​@@oXRaptorzXoyep, they do that just for money it grants easy traction to the videos because people love to just hate everything.

[@damonlam9145]

Aside from a few exceptions such as Knives Out Glass Onions, I mostly do agree with his points.

[@dashx1103]

@@damonlam9145 Agree.

[@narcissus79]

I feel sorry for Xolo. He showed potential in Cobra Kai. He's likeable (as far as actors go). This probably wasn't the career direction he was hoping for when he signed on with DCU.

[@twiddlemethumbs]

At least Gunn has said that Blue Beetle will continue on in the new DCEU. :)

[@steveb9713]

I didn’t realize he was in it, he’s likeable in cobra Kai so hopefully they give him more to do

[@thoth8784]

Maybe if they made a Han Xolo.

[@SaltpeterTaffy]

He signed on with DCU. That was his first mistake. If he was at all familiar with their product, he had to realize it was a cinematic dead end.

[@TrueBagPipeRock]

It's never a mistake to do superhero movies. You do not turn down DC ever, no matter how bad it is. Xolo has potential. Just needs proper roles. They have to be out there.

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

I think the key was indeed "if it had come out 4 or 5 years ago": also from the trailers, leaving aside the infamous controversial line about Batman, it felt like a movie I have already seen a few times, thus making my feelings towards Blue Beetle a tepid "meh".

[@Isnogood12]

If this had come out before the pandemic, it would have been a fun movie that would have maybe even gotten a sequel. I'd rank it about the same as Shazam.

[@omegaminoseer4539]

@@Isnogood12 I agree. However, there was an issue that Blue Beetle didn't lean into its more fantastical and ethnically relevant elements. It's a shame because he has one of the best runs on an origin story, especially his 2006 run.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Something that made Blue Beetle's animated appearances interesting is that the Scarab was not comfortable around humans. He couldn't even be near his family because the Scarab might hurt or even potentially kill them. That would've made him stand out, and have a conflict that is his own in the live action movie. A gift and a curse.

[@mbphilipblack8993]

Very Fair. I think if we get a sequel and The Reach gest introduced than i'm sure they'll go along that route but it's a good criticism.

[@enfieldjohn101]

Another much better plot idea that what the filmmakers decided on. We're better writers than they are.

[@prizethought]

I went to go see it alone in the theater after going to the mall on a boring Monday with nothing else to do, and it was actually really enjoyable... sitting alone sipping some cola & relating heavily to the fresh college grad that never found purpose or passion or a calling in the big world, struggling with a ****ty dead end job but also not being really excited about becoming a cog in the machine in some big corporation like siblings & family always wanted me to. It was just such a real super hero movie, it was a bit inspired by Iron Man but what thing is 100% original? It was a fun entertaining film.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@prizethought it was basically Iron man and Venom combined. Too safe. We should be demanding better.

[@VinnyUnion]

​@@enfieldjohn101for starters we're objectively able to readjust things. But either way those directors and whatnot are apparently learned in their profession and have an actual degree, but somehow manage to defy common sense with their inconsistency in thinking. I am sure that there might be budget issues or similar here and there but I really question inferiority in a lot of people's way of thinking. At least the script for the cast was semi decent. The narration though, very poor.

[@killerfrank8974]

A much kinder review from the Drinker than I expected.

[@anotherthing]

That's because it's not a bad movie. I wouldn't even say it was mediocre. I saw in on Sunday, and had a blast. I'm strongly considering seeing it again in theaters because I probably missed a few things the first time through.

[@Fedaygin]

As it should be on this case ^^ First i got to know DC's Blue Beetle character via comics at mid -90's 😋 Almost since then i've waited for live act movie. I got to know about Jaime Reyes Blue Beetle movie about two years before it landed 😋 Blue Beetle character creation date: 1939, Spiderman created two decades later ⏳ I'll buy Blue Beetle IMAX ticket today 22.8.6023 (2023 by that oldest storybook) & second screening maybe for saturday early evening 🙂 I'll also buy Blue Beetle movie digitally via AppleTV & one or two gift copies 💯

[@dashx1103]

@@anotherthing Yeah. Drinker is just being honest. Kudos to him. It isn't a great movie by any stretch, but it is fairly enjoyable. Certainly one of the better super hero movies in the past 5 years or so. Maybe more.

[@jairvera722]

It wasn't as terrible as I was expecting. It's way better than WonderWoman2 which I had high hopes for. But there's a lot of copy and past aspects of it. Felt like Iron Man 1. Dude in suit fighting another dude in a suit. Family characters were kind of cartoonish but it wasn't annoying. Not the greatest movie I've seen but better than some of the other trash Marvel & DC have been putting out recently. If you're a comic book fan. This movie holds up.

[@ericbenko5195]

It was worse than I could have ever imagined. Wtf movie did you watch

[@sicksock435446]

Blue Beetle really is the Moon Knight of DC movies. A character who is beloved by comic fans yet widely unknown that has had all the interesting conflict and personality sanded from their story before being unceremoniously dumped onto audiences who don't and won't care about them.

[@jasongrundy1717]

Blue Beetle has been in the cartoons for over a decade. He's well known. Saying otherwise is stupid. Moon Knight was well written, well acted, serious and decent. Blue Beetle was none of that. It was a complete garbage pile of a movie with no redeeming qualities.

[@Tyler_W]

Couldn't have said it better...

[@historicflame972]

Grew up with him on Brave and the Bold

[@josip_gale]

@@jasongrundy1717 regarding the Moon Knight... take away its actors and replace them with some solid but uninspiring actors, and you'll see that the cast was practically the only thing which kept the series afloat.

[@Vicus_of_Utrecht]

@@jasongrundy1717 Fucking no one knows about Blue Beetle, your friends don't count.

[@Novictus]

Just to be clear. Blue Beetle is only similar to Iron Man in that he has a metal suit. In comics the scarab is alien in origin and he is effectively closer to something like an evil Green Lantern because the scarab can make basically anything he wants out of nanobots, meaning he is essentially magic.

[@RoninCatholic]

And in the past, previous people mistook the Scarab for a magical artefact and used magic to operate it.

[@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese]

'Essentially magic' and magic are not the same. But the comparison is more easily drawn between the way that the suit fits in-world. Protagonist struggles to get used to his power, evil company executive is trying to control it, antagonist uses similar suit 'power' to try to take it. And that 'flight failing while practically in orbit' part is almost directly 1:1 Not considering the comics, just the films, its like they went "let's do Iron Man, but with bugs."

[@gregory4154]

no. Blue Bettle is a complete ripoff of the Japanese Hero the Guyver. A complete rip off.

[@BrotherApexx]

@@gregory4154 everything is a rip-off of something. This movie was fun and entertaining

[@tanpham937]

​@@gregory4154 that is nomal in fictional characters creation, they've been doing that for decades, no need to make a fuss about it.

[@masilomoshesh1475]

As someone that watches Cobra Kai I was hoping this movie would be Xolo's breakout role. I'm glad it wasnt all terrible.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Xolo can do better than this. Marvel and DC don’t deserve him.

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

What really hurt this movie was that even though its not that bad of a film, it had the terrible luxury of being tied to a trash director, be shoved into a time where DC is in its all time low, and overall be just another superhero film that plays all the tropes in the book at this point. A shame really, cause the character deserves a lot better since he's actually one of the best DC heroes in a lot of animated movies and video games.

[@taka-yuki-mh]

I agree. Blue Beetle as a comic book character isn't all bad, even graduation day was not amazing, but just ok. But the timing and marketing just doesn't do this movie any favors, way too late in the game to do a movie like this, should have done an animated series or just stick to the comics, most people will see him as a spiderman clone, which the 2003 version kind of is, the older version is completely different than the Blue Beetle we know now. I feel kind of sorry for this movie, but at the same time, Hollywood needs toi see their failures if they want to succeed, financial for them is where it hurts most, not guaranteed to make them change their ways, but at least they have to know.

[@themark443]

I think the extra bit that hurts the movie: Gunn went on a media tour and said this movie is going to kickstart his DC reboot.

[@taka-yuki-mh]

@@themark443 Yeah

[@noway3202]

This movie had a director? Thought it just had a far-left activist who hates the people he wants money from

[@taka-yuki-mh]

@@Wolf_ManJack Right. That's what I'm saying, it's mediocre at best, but not the worst movie DC put out. To me, I just rather stick to reading indie comics, comics from Image like Spawn, Witchblade, The Darkness etx. And watch toku shows for more superhero content that feels like it has more passion behind it

[@Lokhir100]

Yeah, this one had little chance of doing well. Considering it's an obscure superhero (for most people), had very little advertising done for it, and it's being released during the DC reboot/transition. They should've had Blue Beetle introduced in another movie before deciding whether or not to make a solo movie for him.

[@fattiger6957]

Doesn't help that the superhero fad is on its last leg. I have little faith James Gunn's DC is going to find much success.

[@thedanielagboola]

My thoughts exactly

[@willdegra317]

I would’ve watched it. I didn’t know who guardians of the galaxy were and they frankly sounded stupid. But now they’re one of my faves. I skipped blue beetle because it’s clearly a woke era production

[@Chadius_Thundercock]

@@fattiger6957 idk what he was thinking going to DC after all the dogshit it’s made

[@tiffanywyatt5137]

​@@willdegra317and marvel isn't?

[@R2debo_]

Massive respect to DC for promoting the comics at the end - that’s gonna be great for the people who worked on those!

[@rogerborg]

Respect? That's the absolute bare minimum that we should expect from comic book properties. What's amazing is that Marvel and then Disney have consistently flubbed it by _not_ promoting their sources. That ex-felon guy is right, they should have had racks of comics in the lobbies of theatres after every film.

[@firstlast9846]

@rogerborg - Marvel has outwardly Rejected the comics - so ofc people are happy they’re promoting the source material.. it SHOULD BE the bare minimum - but it’s not sadly 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@SeSeReRfRf]

Oh cmon, please tell me you posted this as a joke from those copy-and-paste comments from the trailers

[@NormanReaddis]

People that created Dan Garrett: am i a joke to you?

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Good joke 🤣

[@ciarawatt6714]

I thought it was a solid movie, not life-changing, but I don't think it deserves a flop!

[@HalloweenHalloween-sc4jo]

I can’t say I’m surprised that it is flopping though. With all the terrible superhero movies that have been getting churned out, along with the fact that blue beetle wasn’t a well known superhero to begin with, there was not much of an appeal to people to see this movie, which is still an a shame.

[@ciarawatt6714]

agreed@@HalloweenHalloween-sc4jo

[@damigamermx-us8291]

It was mid tbh

[@Narcan885]

It's very obviously extremely mediocre and unoriginal. Main actor has zero charisma too. It's just that every once in a while The Drinker has to brownnose some movie even if its clealry mediocre.

[@jangdi.]

Braindead comic fan detected

[@theshadowman1398]

I only heard about this movie when it was released. Brilliant marketing.

[@victorcharles27]

😅😅😅😅😂😂😂

[@rayray44325]

the trailer for it is the most generic looking super hero movie trailer you can imagine, so i wouldn't be surprised if even the die hard comic book fans rolled their eyes when they saw it, lol...

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Literally didn't know this movie existed until now

[@booshmcfadden7638]

A lot of people didn't know the character existed until now.

[@Himitoka]

I only noticed it was released because it has a CAM version on the pirated site im watching from 😂

[@barnabusdoyle4930]

I was hoping they were going to have the Scarab be a ruthlessly efficient machine who would constantly conflict with the main character’s compassion and humanity. “Hey, there are a ton of guys shooting at us.” “Ok, let’s use this one power that would kill those guys and send drones to kill every member of their family.” “What, no, we don’t need to kill them like that. They are just doing their job”

[@cybertramon0012]

I know Blue Beetle from Young Justice, where it has some humor from the fact that the Scarab's answer to everything is 'Plasma Cannon'. There could be some fun and drama from the fact that it's worried that Jamie's family 'might' tell others about it so it wants to kill them at the slightest chance. As you said, imagine the potential of a hero dealing with the fact that the source of their power is a paranoid, violent weapon.

[@snailthelostcow63]

That was kinda the first act of the movie

[@滝野智-y7n]

That’s pretty much just venom at that point

[@luisr0987]

They already did that with Spiderman Homecoming and Far From Home

[@giveandtake8428]

So...Venom.

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

Truth be told, it would have been better as an animated series set in a DC Universe with no damn time travel or parallel universes or alternative timelines. With themes of family and responsibilities and being a true hero.

[@elperrodelautumo7511]

Believe me. Instead of those three things. I could’ve made it set in one universe and only one universe. And if they wanted time travel. It could’ve been more like a period setting piece. It would connect to the main present timeline regardless.

[@Underworlddream]

DC tend to do well with Animation, they should dive deep into that and have a Animated DC Cinematic universe. We already see the Spider Verse do well , why not have DC have their own version.

[@markmunroe-hz8rf]

@@elperrodelautumo7511 True, but I (an many comic book readers in my opinion) are fed up with time travel stories and alternate universes. Just stick to ONE UNIVERSE and have story arcs and character developments.

[@kingsleywelch3360]

@mark munroe: You’re right. Plus, the multiverse concept in fiction is not that interesting. I mean, it’s all, ‘look, here’s a universe where Batman is a supervillain or a vampire!’. Seriously, that’s the best they can come with up?

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

@@markmunroe-hz8rf Maybe that's why the comic book industry is about to bankrupt a second time, meanwhile the manga (and the koreans are also taking a piece of the pie) is thriving, Marvel and DC don't allow new authors and stories to thrive and when they actually give a chance, usually these stories are published by niched publishers such as Vertigo, Image is also one who tries new stuff, etc.. in the end, there's no more stories to tell with these characters, most of them are recycling plots since the 60s at least. This concept of recycling works with kid friendly series, because their target audience naturally "rotates" every decade or so. And even if Marvel and DC are also childish in nature, many people still couldn't let go and the writers are trying to keep up with times, but they are not talented enough to come up with new and interesting stories. The "cinematic universe" gave a literal second life for the comics industry, but now in the digital era with piracy running amok and lack of engagement from the public, they are about to bankrupt yet again

[@dcblerg7645]

The nice thing about the comic version of Jaimie's Blue Beetle, they flashed out the side characters as well. Like how they did with Spider-man. The stories developed the side characters and his family so you were invested in them. It was a nice run.

[@tiktokcompilations797]

The fact that WBD would’ve lost less money if these movies simply were cancelled is crazy to me. They did that badly which is insane.

[@wolfie23288]

I know😂

[@siddhant8430]

Latino people are always be cleaner in USA , they are born to clean toilets

[@inendlesspain4724]

Just how bad could that Batgirl movie have possibly been for WB to decide to cut their loses and cancel it, despite already losing massive amounts of money on its production?

[@mirceazaharia2094]

​@@inendlesspain4724 So bad, that it could have given us HUNDREDS of great videos ripping it apart and a whole new Mr Plinkett 1 hour review.

[@destronia123]

​@inendlesspain4724 Just think "Catwoman" and you'll probably have a good idea....

[@dahelmang]

I like that Critical Drinker gives movies the benefit of the doubt. Even when they aren't good movies, they can still have some good qualities.

[@iamkoopa22]

Unless theyre marvel. If its marvel its an automatic hate

[@brandonscott5544]

DC MULITVERSE MOVIES EVERY FLOPPY,

[@therookie5714]

@@iamkoopa22he liked no way home

[@mmanzanozr1]

​@@iamkoopa22I mean they are garbage, everything after endgame is bad and you know it.

[@tableshaper4076]

Because he is a woke sympathizer.

[@cosmicbreath]

It really is a shame. As a Blue Beetle comics and old Young Justice fan, the appeal of Jaime's character IS that his home life is pretty crap and he's surrounded by horribleness, but he never compromises his convictions, no matter what he's faced with. Even the scarab in his own BRAIN wants nothing more than to destroy everything, and caving would make his whole life SO much easier, but he never does, no matter how tired, worn out, or beaten down he becomes. And that steadfast no-compromising nature is what causes change in the scarab, which is VERY much an intelligent weapon bent on mass destruction. And it's that good nature when it's NOT convenient for him and when he's at his wit's end that makes Jaime such a great character. But, while the movie was fine, it felt too distracted by its politics to really do JAIME as a character justice, which kept it from being amazing and memorable...

[@P.Whitestrake]

I think they didn't go that route because it would've been too similar to Spider-Man. Well, Jaime's BB is basically DC's Spider-Man.

[@nekovanguard9553]

I feel like "the movie was fine" is also a problem. How can you build a successful interconnected universe based on bunch of movies thats just "fine"? In the infinity saga, every new character that had their standalone movie offers something new that other movies either hasn't do or did it but not as focused, plus all character do contribute towards a specific finale. DCEU felt and is a mess because they have no endgame ever since snyder was out, they basically just put as many mediocre movie they could and hope few of them ends up grossing as much as Joker or Aquaman to make up for the rest of the failed ones, and at the same time use those movie as a means to spread their agendas (same thing can be said with post endgame MCU).

[@MichaelJM]

Dang I wish all that came across in the film. That sounds great. I know nothing about the comics but I thought it would have been better if the Scarab had more of a personality in the movie. Maybe it's been done, but the robotic nature didn't lend itself to this idea of conflicting desires which you mention. It made the interactions with Jaime kind of boring.

[@Horvath_Gabor]

Yeah, Jaime's initial run of the rebooted Blue Beetle was one of the best DC comics had to offer in that era, and it was a justifiably beloved series. Sure, he's not an A-lister, like Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman, but if the first phase of the MCU had taught us anything, it was that with good writing, you can turn even C-listers like the Guardians of the Galaxy into beloved household names, and make generally popular but not very highly regarded characters like Tony Stark and Thor into beloved fan favorites. Yet, after failing to establish their own tone and brand due to the horrendous writing of the Snyderverse, DC decided to jump over the good stuff, and try to imitate Phase 4 of Marvel instead. It boggles the mind how studios with decades of filmmaking experience and handling hundreds of millions of dollars can be this detached from reality and incompetent.

[@akirahojo2]

So whatever happened to Ted Kord? He was the Blue Beetle I grew up with in the 80s.

[@arcshadowstorm]

I went to see Blue Beetle and genuinely enjoyed it. I saw very little marketing for it, but I was a fan of him from the comics and I think they did a good job with his portrayal

[@xokki_]

a good potray? boi the movies literally ditch the good parts of him and made it into spiderman/the flash copy. its the totally opposite of what blue beetle actually is. dumb and immature hero ✔️ bad jokes ✔️ little to none charcter improvement ✔️ useless conflict ✔️ bad decisions ✔️ the whole recipe for a shit movie.

[@XeniaChow]

that a by the books superhero movie is considered fairly decent in the modern cinematic zeitgeist tells you everything you need to know about the depths Hollywood had sunk into

[@casthedemon]

I mean comic books suck ass. So comic book movies don't need a high bar. They're not meant to be taken critically as high art. People are just way too nitpicky and brain dead.

[@mottom2657]

@@casthedemon I agree. Random puny-brain critics expect all Marvel and DC movies to be as good as The Shawshank Redemption. Nolan's Batman trilogy probably went that far, and this is the only exception.

[@mottom2657]

@@casthedemon Plus, bad-mouthing MCU and DC films for literally no legitimate reason brings in views. The greed for views is massively strong among the newer grass-eating reviewers.

[@casthedemon]

@@mottom2657 exactly. They have an issue of expectations. They're just made to be fun entertaining romps with some light themes. That's it lol. And as long as there aren't too many contrivances that pull you out of the movie it's fine. Like, I watched WW84 yesterday and was actually surprised that it was a decent movie despite all the negativity. I actually think it was better than the first tbh.

[@trevorrobinson2984]

Loved how Jenny needed the scientists security badge to get into the lab with the scarab, but luckily that scientist didn't need it to get himself back in the lab...right.

[@franklinsmith5201]

I swear I was having a stroke when I saw him get into the room completely fine, I'm like "where's his key card?"

[@youknowihaduwuittoem]

I didn't even think of that lmao

[@ayamgorengdimakanayam]

​@@franklinsmith5201same

[@grimpepartout3744]

also need is grand mother and a bunch a grils to save him , woke movies again

[@joeberger3441]

​@@grimpepartout3744I don't like woke ideas as much as the next person but sometimes this anti woke stuff turns into a bit of a witch hunt. Sometimes the characters that really come through just happen to be female

[@GabiBrooks]

Didn't read the comics but loved the hell out of Batman the Brave and the Bold as a kid. Jaime is one of the best characters of that show and his interactions with Batman are hilariously entertaining. Glad to see they brought him to the big screen even though I never really cared about the DC cinematic universe. I'd love to see Batman mentoring him in live action but well, reboot incoming...

[@leargamma4912]

Yup. That was my first exposure to the character too. Read a couple comics and really liked what they did with him. Here? Not as much.

[@GabiBrooks]

@@leargamma4912 yeah, seems generic.

[@GabiBrooks]

@@craigackeret nice! That always cracked me up 😆

[@Archone666]

The bit about them staying at the house does make some sense, actually. It's like in that Dresden Files book "Turn Coat," where Dresden eavesdrops on his enemies discussing how to track him down after the failed attack on his safehouse. Binder suggests he went back to his apartment. His employer laughs mockingly, "Dresden would never be that stupid." Binder laughs right back. "You're money, Raith. Money never gets it. Dresden's young - he hasn't been a wizard long enough to accumulate a nest egg. He doesn't have private offshore accounts or a selection of hidden lairs. His safehouse was a STORAGE RENTAL UNIT."

[@michaeladair6557]

YES! A Harry Dresden reference!

[@akiraishin7141]

The saddest thing about this movie is that Blue Beetle is in some ways DC's Spider-Man. A young man who's dealing with financial troubles, family issues and fighting crime has to balance all of these and grow as a person while doing so. He's teamed up with so many classic heroes and even became part of the Tean Titans. He might not have a long history, but there are a lot of angles this movie could have gone for with his story other than "Generic hero # whatever" I would have been legitimately interesting if they added Booster Gold into the story and had him be a mentor throughout to Jaimie, all thr while Booster would still be grieving the loss of his best friend, Ted Kord, the OG Blue Beetle (I know he's the second one be you know what I mean). Idk. I'm not going to watch it, mostly because of its missed potential.

[@youknowihaduwuittoem]

Blue Beetle's first appearance was in 1939. He absolutely has a long history.

[@Horvath_Gabor]

@@youknowihaduwuittoem Very different Blue Beetle though. The first one was a Phantom type brawler hero with minor superpowers, and even those were only linked to the Scarab after he was rebooted as an adventurer archeologist type. Then the second one was a lighthearted gadgeteer vigilante hero who didn't have access to the Scarab's powers and had to fight crime with his inventions and tools, and then finally we have Jaime, who has access to all of the Scarab's powers, but he's too young and has a hard time controlling them while also thrust into the middle of an alien conspiracy. Three completely different characters, both tonally, personality-wise, and in context.

[@anti1training]

This is a good movie

[@DaveRedsky]

You honestly are a sheep. You literally regurgitate the same thing that people that want to hate on the film regardless of how good or bad the film.was going to be. Generic ... Generic ≠ Bad 🤦‍♂️ It really doesn't. Every single marvel movie is Generic. Nobody complains about that 🤷‍♂️

[@youknowihaduwuittoem]

@@Horvath_Gabor What you're describing is, believe it or not, the long history of Blue Beetle. Would you say the same thing about the Flash? Multiple people have been the Flash too, and Barry Allen didn't make his first appearance until 1956. Are you going to discount all the history of multiple Flashes because of the most recent one? And even so, the character of Jaime Reyes was introduced almost 20 years ago. That's not nothing.

[@mtheman4221]

I actually remember Blue Beetle from "Batman: The Brave and the Bold" that I used to watch on Cartoon Network as a kid. He's a pretty alright hero, when he's not standing on the end of a de-canonized franchise that is.

[@Tyler_W]

He was popular in Young Justice season 2 and Injustice 2 as well. He's a proven commodity with potential for growth. The problem is the movie itself is generic formula that had bad/absent marketing at the tail end of a botched cinematic universe.

[@historicflame972]

Oh I loved that show

[@michaelnash2138]

About all I knew of Blue Beetle was from the Justice League comics of the 80's, where he was Ted Kord, had no powers except his engineering prowess and built a flying beetle ship. He was friends with Booster Gold, ate Oreos with Martian Manhunter, dated an Ice Princess and got on Guy Gardner's nerves. He seemed interesting.

[@hungchoonghow5857]

Me too. They were all hilarious. The interactions between Booster Gold, Guy Gardner and Blue Beetle.

[@wizrom3046]

The real blue beetle before the "modern" race hustling started

[@anotherthing]

@@hungchoonghow5857 Justice League International was best Justice League. This new movie, even though Ted Kord's not in it during the run time of the movie, covers a lot about Ted Kord. You even get to see "The Bug" and Ted Kord's comic accurate costume. I'm happy that Critical Drinker actually acknowledges that this is a pretty good movie and much better than most of the MCU movies of late. I loved this movie. I already pre-ordered the Blu-Ray and am highly considering having another go at it in the theaters.

[@iangenuine]

I love how he gets a degree. Ane it doesnt matter in the whole film. Kinda a metaphor in real life lol

[@isaiaheto799]

I got a degree this yr in CS and immediately got a job in June in Software engineering and Ai practices. Just get a useful degree

[@kathleenhensley5951]

Its not a metaphor in real life... it is real life. Most of the kids, I've known, never get a job in their chosen field.

[@user-xw4vg1vy5e]

Yes, get a useful degree. Two of my brother gor engineering degrees and make six figures working for lockeed.

[@dzciple4931]

@@isaiaheto799is there lots of hard math in cs?

[@isaiaheto799]

@@dzciple4931 in college/ university in real job not really. Honestly if you enjoy understanding why something does this thing such as how does a keyboard work? We hit a but on each key how foes it know which key to use and so on that's kind of the thought process of CS

[@HowToChangeName]

A movie born too late to embrace Spider Man, born too early to ressurect superhero but just in time to be forgotten

[@Coconut-219]

Minus the insufferable lead actor, James Gunn has created the "Andor" of DC. A studio that has fallen so low that they try to bring in a wildcard from outside the echo chamber and accidentally makes something half-decent.

[@chasewilson3693]

@@Coconut-219 Andor is way better than this nothingburger of a film.

[@saladinbob]

This is the both DC's biggest problem and biggest mistake, an "unknown actor". When Marvel launched the MCU they didn't use some kid starting out his Hollywood career, they used the veteran RDJ, a face people knew with the acting talent to capture Stark's charm and ego. This was before the death of the movie star so whilst he may not have been the biggest name, he was still well known enough to put bums on seats. The nearest DC had was Henry Cavill, who has name recognition, but they decided to recast to another unknown actor that will fail to grab audiences and draw them in. The DCU is DOA. Question is how many flops will it take before WB realise that?

[@igodreamer7096]

Black Adam has the Rock, and see how that one ended up

[@freezingicy9457]

@@igodreamer7096 you do need good writing along with well known actors. cant really mask the smell of shit with perfume

[@magnuslord]

Yeah, you know, the whole lipstick and pig situation. 😅

[@jackmesrel4933]

​@@igodreamer7096 The Rock is famous and has fans, yes, but he isn't an audience magnet, like at all. If you look at his career, almost all of his movies are at best mediocre and at worst bad, and the good ones tend to be those in which he isn't the main character. So yeah, wasn't a good choice to put him in a blockbuster that needed to break WB bad streak of movies XD

[@spindriftdrinker]

What ? Cobra Kai is a big success !

[@paulrippcord506]

The problem is Blue Beetle really needs a series rather than a movie to explain its lore. Comic fans know he’s the third character to take on that title albeit in a completely different way from the first two Blue Beetles. That and the tragedy that was the death of Ted Kord the second Blue Beetle.

[@jamesjonnes]

The delayed backlash from movies like Captain Marvel would have an effect anyway. People will be tricked only so many times before they leave.

[@drifterz9186]

Yeah but you know these movies are not made for "the comic fans" lol, unfortunately. He was pretty cool in The Brave and the Bold tho, and YJ i guess.

[@billpage5900]

Literally nobody fucking cares about his backstory. Nobody has the time in their day to pretend to give a damn about the two other nameless blue beetles before him. Read the comics if you want to see a backstory. You a not the intended audience for every single superhero movie.

[@ILikeSoda229]

@@drifterz9186I’d say they’re made to introduce people who don’t them to the character, and to please the fans that do

[@jjones2582]

For someone who has never heard of the character before, can you speculate on why they chose to start with the third character instead of the first or second?

[@bultar16ify]

I personally love blue beetle. Jaime Reyes is a really good character in shows like Young Justice, and in the comics he's kind of got a spiderman vibe for his personality. Wise cracking and fun. He's such a fun character and I plan on watching the movie, because Blue Beetle as a character is one of my favorite heros. I also just love suits that fuse with the wearer, such as venom and carnage for example, and all of the stuff he can do with his suit is really cool. The story behind the beetles themselves is also really fun and interesting. I just wish I knew this movie existed before like yesterday. My boss was talking about it at work and recommended it to me. That conversation, this video, and like 1 image I saw online a week or so ago is all the information I have had about this movie, and until yesterday I thought it was a TV show because I never thought blue beetle would get his own movie. DC really dropped the ball on advertising this one, either that or I just don't pay enough attention lol. Anyway, thanks for another great video Drinker, cheers man!

[@enfieldjohn101]

I hate to break it to you, but the movie has very little in common with the comic books that came before it. It's too bad too because some of those comics were very good. Now that the movie is out, the new comics will be based on the movie most likely.

[@LRTrack]

The not-so-subtle billboard with "Gringo Go Home" made me feel like an unwelcome observer. Add to that the diverse hispanic cultures, i.e., Venezuelans are not Mexicans, are not Cubans, are not Peruvians, are not Guatemalans, are not Panamanians, are not El Salvadorans, are not Chileans, are not Argentinian, are not Costa Ricans, etc, etc... contributes to the limitations of trying to 'reach Hispanics'.

[@jellybryce7742]

why is jewish hollywood so anti white? weird.

[@iansox5720]

As Britain gets overrun with immigrants, I guess drinker doesn't care about whxte replacement in our own countries. Pathetic honestly to see his selective ignorance towards the motives of these movie makers

[@Bonesawisready926]

Hollywood executives are both shallow and racist and think race and culture are synonymous with one another.

[@neovintagesolutions]

What do you expect from West Coast White liberals?

[@looinrims]

Hey if they don’t want ole whitey’s money, then I ain’t gonna give it em

[@thatonkgau5221]

In other iterations of Blue Beetle the Scarab has an A.I that always tends to resort to violence as a first resort. And it doesn't like humans the movie could've been a little better if Jaime had to keep away from his family to protect them from himself. At first he hates the Scarab from keeping him from his family but then he learns to accept it as he uses his abilities for good. He becomes a hero with a lot of sacrifice that would've given the movie a little more depth.

[@RedTheWeeb]

The issue with that is the scarabs are meant to seem like gifts and are there to help save the world. If it starts being a murderous psychotic machine then that has the world on edge and the reach wont easily conquer / destroy it

[@redacted1093]

@@RedTheWeeb Typically if I remember right the scarab fully dominate their hosts but Jaime's was damaged and somewhat lost when it woke up which is why it was shoot first. When Dan Garret used it after discovering it in Egypt he had full control then the scarab didn't function for Ted Kord so he used his own wits and tech as the second Blue Beetle while investigating the scarab then sometime after his death the scarab woke up and ended up on Jaime. Gotta be honest the scarab unintentional trolling of Jaime while fighting a red lantern in I think early New 52 was pretty funny, the benefits of having him be a hormonal teenager rather than adult.

[@RedTheWeeb]

@@redacted1093 they dont tend to dominate the hosts until the reach is getting close. Jaime's scarab is damaged so when the reach approaches it does somewhat dominate him but it doesnt at the same time and due to this the reach wants to kill them both so obviously the scarab ain't gonna listen to them atp

[@twiddlemethumbs]

I honestly liked the movie. I didn’t go into the theater expecting a deep, edgy philosophical masterpiece-I went in expecting a fun, funny, slightly-cheesy, heartfelt superhero movie. And that’s exactly what I got. The acting was good, the score was good, and the script didn’t drag despite the movie being 2hrs long. (The grandma joke went on too long, but most of the humor was solid). It’s overall the same level as the first Shazam and the first Wonder Woman movies for me. :) There are quite a few similarities to other superhero movies, but that’s a given considering just how many other superhero movies there are. It finds it’s own lane, and I feel the general vibe of the movie is a fresh take on some things we’ve seen before. There are definitely things that could’ve been improved upon, but the movie didn’t take itself too seriously-so I won’t either. 8.5/10

[@frogboy831]

AGREEE

[@dashx1103]

It was fairly good. Like Drinker says "enjoyable." I think it was much better than the first Wonder Woman movie, which I think was awful. On par with the first Shazam? I can see that.

[@slvrshore5300]

wasnt it directed by a fascist tho

[@Bedheadboredom]

I agree as well.

[@curryis828]

Shit still a garbage movie 😂

[@knowvoid9958]

You know what would make a good blue beetle movie? Having a competent person have it and see what can actually be done with its full potential.

[@DaveyMan8868]

It's not a terrible superhero movie. It's just a story we've seen so many times already. Nothing new. It's Ironman w/o a RDJ. Thanks for the video, Drinker.👍

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

It's the most standard and by the notes movie I have ever seen

[@thekiller7994]

@@carinadominguez22yes

[@PrivateCitizen84]

Retardo the power of REE is the only superhero movie I am interested in. Maybe that will be Deadpools villian I hope?

[@macieksala7505]

Dont care

[@rollrcoastrbacon2725]

No Jeff Bridges either. Gonna pass

[@orkutfinance]

Blue Beetle is that kid in school who was always a few months late to the popular thing.

[@impudentdomain]

There were 3 versions of the Blue Beetle in the comics but they went with the version that lent itself more to over the top CGI. The previous two versions were more like Batman type characters with some super strength.

[@psychonaut5921]

Yeah, I remember Blue Beetle from way back when I was a child(in my 60's now). Even then he was a bit obscure; honestly don't remember much about him. Loved his costume, though.

[@RoninCatholic]

Well, one of them was basically Batman with beetle-themed gadgets who owned the Scarab but couldn't activate it, the other was a wizard activating the Scarab by magic and doing all manner of magic shenanigans like turning himself gigantic but _usually_ just using super strength.

[@nekovanguard9553]

Of course they didn't went with the batman one, they hate facists >:(

[@Evangelionism]

"The studio had no faith in it." This is so sad...

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

People aren't tired of superhero movies, they're tired of BAD superhero movies

[@Darion350]

No joke. If they made a *good* Superman or Batman movie you'd see people come out in droves to see it. I think it's the over-reliance on CGI and ridiculous action, not to mention terrible writing is what's killing the superhero genre.

[@user-mq4xp1gq3q]

Bad superhero movies and blatant propaganda. Marvel was already a boring formulaic no-stakes franchise with lame quips everywhere, then they decided to add woke on top of that. DC started with a good vision of a darker more realistic adult take on superheroes, but then WB decided they want Marvel money and would rather just poorly copy and rush out whatever Marvel was doing. The real (good) DC universe is the animated movies

[@adisonnanet]

@@user-mq4xp1gq3qnice take, noticing that Marvel was bland since the beginning. They just had the perfect timing and good looking visuals to keep going.

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

@@adisonnanet Nah the MCU has some bangers like Winter Soldier and the Guardians films. Honestly I enjoyed most Marvel movies until Phase 4 which was utter dog shit.

[@doublejacketjimmy391]

@@ThwipThwipBoom Well MCU wasn't all that great in the beginning they did improve with first Avengers movie and produced pretty good films after but then it went downhill.

[@TheUnseenPath]

The issue is with Victoria Kord, is that she is a stand in for La Dama (I could be butchering it) a mob boss who is BB main enemies. She is the aunt of one of Jaime's best friends and knows his identity. Knowing the origin of the story the reach would have been a much more compelling villain org than Kord industries. There is also a black and green beetle who can also do the same things but I don't know what the difference is beyond that color wise.

[@daemonz200]

Black Beetle would have been a great addition, he was a straight up menace in YJ.

[@davidgantenbein9362]

Also: when comparisons with Ironman are so close already, why did they transform Kord Industries into a weapons manufacturer, which wasn’t the case in the comics as Ted Kord isn’t Tony Stark?

[@tototats16]

@@daemonz200“Meat bags"😂

[@Isnogood12]

So a direct copy of Peter Perker / Harry and Norman Osborn?

[@Windona]

Victoria is more of a stand in for Jarvis Kord, Ted Kord's evil uncle in the comics. I actually liked that they didn't rush into the Reach- doing both that and Jaime's origin would have resulted in something flubbing.

[@tomasburian6550]

Don't you love it when you call Predator a childhood movie? :D

[@Coconut-219]

- If you have dyslexia, this comment reads like a statement on Hollywood, DC, & the LGBTQ movement...

[@tonyravioli1982]

@@Coconut-219 "Don't you love it when they make a child predator movie" Yeah thats definitely something an lgbtq activist has said. In fact I think they do it often. The funniest part is KZbin won't delete this comment.

[@cineturon]

It was one of the best movies for me when I was like 8 , so for sure.

[@dedfoker]

I watched t2 with my dad when i was 6 years old.

[@gp.5989]

​@dedfoker t2 was listed as my favorite movie in kindergarten lol.

[@TheStarwarsgeek1998]

I really enjoyed Blue Beetle. I hope we see more from these characters.

[@dublinoseven3279]

“It’s blood was on the leaves. When the big man was killed…” “Mom, wtf are you talking about?”

[@Raskolnikov70]

They don't understand why she sometimes has anxiety attacks at the park. When the breeze picks up and the leaves start to rustle.....

[@dublinoseven3279]

@@Raskolnikov70 “She’s scayyad ow tuv huu miyend.” (That’s the best “sounding” like Arnold I can type).

[@princepsbellum3413]

@@dublinoseven3279 "yuu faull bihaind, yuur on yuur ouuwn"

[@Raskolnikov70]

@@dublinoseven3279 "GET TO DA CHAPPAH!!!!!!!!"

[@RoninCatholic]

I liked Jaime in Batman: The Brave and the Bold, which was my introduction to Blue Beetle. It didn't disrespect the legacy of the earlier versions of the Beetle, but went out of its way to showcase who those were and how they differed too.

[@ScoundrelSFB]

I learned about Blue Beetle from the Young Justice cartoon about a decade ago and really enjoyed the character. But they needed to make a movie about him around that time. For that matter they should of made a Teen Titan Movie, but with what we have seen lately, we should be thankful we got table scraps, or chewing gum, just munching without being fulfilled.

[@leojamesquiambao1047]

First time I heard of Blue Beetle was in Batman: The Brave and the Bold. One of the episodes he was featured in, Fall of the Blue Beetle, was still one of my faves in that series. Especially in the last part, where Batman tells Jaime ": I wasn't sure you were ready to know about this. Our work is dangerous and not all hero stories have happy endings."

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

I haven't seen the episode but it sounds like their relationship was carried over from the comics. Batman really likes Jaime and acts as a mentor to him on occasion. Sometimes it's tough love but what else would you expect from Batman?

[@leojamesquiambao1047]

@@BiggieTrismegistus yup. In that show, Blue Beetle is just starting as a super hero, and Batman is teaching him the ropes.

[@enfieldjohn101]

Yes, Batman the Brave and the Bold, both the comic book series done many years ago and the more recent cartoon, handles obscure heroes and villains much better than the DCEU movies do. The version of Blue Beetle in those shows is superior to this movie.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

@@enfieldjohn101 It annoys me that the DC's animated shows and movies are so good but the live action pales in comparison. One of the things I've noticed is that the animated movies are based directly on popular stories from the comics but the live action films try to do their own thing. That makes no sense to me. The MCU has started to doing that too and that's coincided with declining box offices and review scores. Having a good stort is ovbviously pretty damn important as far as making filmmaking goes. Basing movies on well-loked or loved comic book stories means you already have a story you know people will like.

[@enfieldjohn101]

Exactly! This is one of the biggest problems I have with live action superhero movies. They take the comic books, look them over and go "Okay, here are the character names, place names, what powers and abilities everybody has. Got that wrote down. Dramatize the stories the creators told? Naw, let's do our own thing now." Then they toss the comics over their shoulders and write up utter nonsense that has little or nothing to do with the stories that fans of the characters love. Sometimes, they even change the appearances of the characters and their powers because artistic license and its whatever year it is when they start the project so we can't do things the old way even though the old way is what fans love. It really doesn't make any sense at all. They either don't notice, or don't care that the truly popular, well-loved animated movies and shows of these characters are so often animated versions of the stories we've read in the comics when they make live action movies. @@BiggieTrismegistus

[@The_Killah29]

The sequel (if there ever would have been one) could have delved more into the sinister origins of the scarab (named Kaji-Da) and who made it (aliens called "The Reach") and why (making a member of a species a 'hero' before they make him turn and be the front man for a Reach invasion).

[@Isnogood12]

Too bad Invincible already did that story way better.

[@Warm_Winter_Nights]

@@Isnogood12 also too bad that young justice did the story before invincible back in 2012. and that version took up a whole season great season. if anything, they would adapt it somewhat from young justice and not from invincible

[@robertness6041]

This movie would have done amazing if it was released in 2008

[@josephsalmonte4995]

A male protagonist & a family togetherness theme, you say? So THAT'S why it's slated. It's anathema to modern Hollywood critics.

[@letmadora28]

well, here's the catch: is a Latino male and Latino family unity not a white male and a white family. I guess they tried to sell this movie to a lefty/latino market?

[@conradojavier7547]

​@@letmadora28Maybe DC Don't care about the US Audience, but the South Americans.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

They don't care about anyone except money.@@conradojavier7547

[@_ANDRE.]

Both Shazam movies were the same. While yes modern "critics" might hate it for these reasons, normal people just see it as ok movies. Not really worth to watch if they are just ok. And i even liked the first Shazam.

[@timothyobrien4026]

I think the fact that they don’t attempt to shoehorn legacy characters into the plot is one of this movie’s greatest strengths. It stands on its own. My biggest complaint about Disney-helmed franchises like Star Wars and the MCU in the last several years is that none of the shows and movies are really allowed to stand on their own merits (because they have none) and most of these offerings feel like nothing more than just advertisements for other products. Boba Fett was basically a commercial for Mandalorian S3 and Ahsoka. Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Fuckery was just a keystone to pull all kinds of other franchises together too. I think the fact that DC made Blue Beetle simply to serve its own plot and characters is an incredibly refreshing move on their part. It was great to see Blue Beetle just be Blue Beetle and not attempt to be a brand ambassador for DC. The movie has its shortcomings for sure. But it was nice to just take my kids to a superhero movie without the responsibility of having to familiarize ourselves with the entire DC catalog first.

[@x-mobius0ne]

They told us we shouldn't watch it because it wasn't made for us, so we didn't. They are welcome

[@jorgegomezespinosa8192]

I really had a fun time watching this movie, both as a superhero fan and as a Mexican (even though my family is not really inmersed in the music and cultural elements this film portrays, other than our Catholic faith, these are things I obviously I grew up knowing about) and so did the audience around me. My biggest issue being with it the villains, mostly because I found signs of something great. You could notice how they tried to portray Victoria Kord manipulating Carapax, and it reminded me of The Manchurian Candidate, where Raymond is actually controlled by his mother. I wish they had explored it a bit deeper, or at least shown Carapax being conflicted by his relationship with Kord throughout the movie, so it would better justify why he's constantly telling Jaime that his love for his family is a weakness

[@BrotherApexx]

I had fun with it, too

[@sarov7658]

It's decent but really anti American af and the director is a bad person too

[@I_Don_t_want_a_handle]

@@the_dark_braga2190 Ta Da! Oh, sorry, that's a chord ...

[@mattconway8851]

What?! This movie was terrible! Glad to see that the race hustling worked its magic on you. Glad to see that the powers that be were 100% right about viewers like you lol. They tried SO HARD to Pander to Latinos to go watch this movie LOL. Did I seriously just see this guy's Abuelita joining the fight holding a gun?? Cringe! George lopez?? Who's next, Cheech marin? All this movie needed was its theme song to be in mariachi form, and for Blue Beetle to have a sidekick known as La Cucaracha. And after every crime he fights, he meets up with the commissioner at the local Taqueria. This movie is GARBAGE!!!

[@anotherthing]

@@the_dark_braga2190 Victoria Kord is Ted's evil sister. They mention Ted Kord throughout the movie and even show off Ted Kord's Beetle Lair. Oh, and in that lair, Dan Garrett's and Ted Kord's costumes are on display and are comic accurate. They even mention he was a hero back in the 1980s. That infamous "Batman is a fascist!" line follows some dialog where George Lopez is gushing about Ted Kord being Blue Beetle and how much people loved the Blue Beetle. Then Jaime said something along the lines of Blue Beetle seeming like a low rent "Batman", and George Lopez quips back with, "Batman's a fascist!" It's a shame the trailer didn't include more of that scene. I know in the comics that it's Kord's uncle that's evil, but the DCEU kind of screwed a lot of the elements in Ted Kord's history. Wonder Woman 1984 screwed up Maxwell Lord for example, and Batman v Superman screwed up Lex Luthor. Also, Ted Kord's uncle would have been really old at that point, so they went with his sister.

[@Poita316]

The Drinker, sacrificing soul and sanity to give us no holds barred, brass tacks reviews so we don't have to suffer the cinematic manure. We salute you.

[@dashx1103]

I don't get it. He liked the movie. That would likely encourage some people to see it.

[@hubertcumberdale2651]

He's being paid handsomely for it via his ad revenues. And crap movies tend to be the highest view count one's.

[@syafiqchua1670]

​@@hubertcumberdale2651 But he said he likes the movie

[@800Ms-k6n]

He liked the movie but he wasn't surprised that its going to flop

[@hubertcumberdale2651]

I wasn't talking about THIS movie bruh. It was a general statement.@@syafiqchua1670

[@bloodrosereaper2099]

Instead of him getting a degree or being a lawyer, having Jaime be a mechanic working at his dad's garage. Have him be the kind of person who rolls up his sleeves and knows the value of hard work. But when it's obvious that the work isn't enough, Jaime makes the effort to try and get a job at Kord Industries. Have Jaime be an outsider, but likeable and with an obvious pension for kindness and humor, making people like him despite not being a College Graduate. This could be why he gets the scarab in the box, as Jenny sees a good person in him and knows he's trustworthy over the rich guys she's surrounded by. Have him make the conscious choice to seek out help for his family and be willing to shoulder the burden that puts on him, rather than have the story carry him along because it needs him to be. It shows character while progressing the story.

[@pederhalvorsen2289]

"And that's the plot for generic super hero movie number 5271" God, the Drinker kills it every time. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheTrueNarthumpulous]

I loved the character of Ana from Predator. She was a legitimately strong female side character all the way back in the 80's. She was a straight up survivor. But not fearless and invincible like today's garbage.

[@tiktokcompilations797]

I had more fun watching Drinker’s reviews of these films than watching the actual movies themselves

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Because most movies are usually very by the numbers or don't care about having a good story

[@martinlopez2816]

Some pos bot stole your comment!

[@CoalCoalJames]

@@martinlopez2816 The thumbnail bot's are freaking insane~ Strike down one method and they find another.

[@adbricks]

Did you watch the movie though? Cuz it’s really fun

[@tiktokcompilations797]

@@adbricks it’s aight. Nothing bad but nothing special

[@darwincity]

It applies the « family is first » trope very well, and it does have some solid performances. Gunn deciding to keep this in the future DCU sounds like a wise decision.

[@metalmayfantasy]

I liked it too, and I teared up in the end also. This is why I like Drinker, he's fair and gives credit where credit is due.

[@onmas909]

I think my biggest thing was the CGI Flamingos other than that this movie message reminded me of Spy Kids with the message of family

[@CheetoMan123]

The Critical Drinker complimenting a movie in the first 20 seconds? You don’t see that often

[@hariman7727]

Damning with faint praise.

[@CheetoMan123]

Yeah exactly 😂

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Very Rare Critic approval I might say

[@ZEROmg13]

it's not the reviewer, it's the material. he calls em as he see's em.

[@squilliamfancyson5313]

Now if the movie can get a 4 out of 10 from Adam (YMS), then it's essentially an uncut diamond

[@squidikka]

That's honestly a shame it wasn't too bad, I can't bring myself to watch it after the way the actor for blue beetle acted and treated fans as well as the whole "Batman is a fascist" nonsense. On principle I'm still gonna pass on seeing it.

[@JohnSmith-fe1oq]

Is that a bot attack? You are repeating the same comment other user made.

[@grapes196]

How was the actor disrespectful?

[@darthuchiha9870]

@@grapes196 I’m curious about the same. I only know him from Cobra Kai and those interviews which all make him seem like a good dude

[@TerpTheBandit]

@@grapes196 Xolo(Star/Cobra Kai - Miguel): "I can't reveal if more superheroes are mentioned, but the Batman one is obviously in the trailer, and I think we will experience certain superheroes and opinions through the eyes of the family." "If you felt some type of way about it, that was the point, So I think if you agree with it, if you don’t agree with it, it was placed there for a reason. And you know, all of the people who have their Batman shrines at home can keep them there and they don’t have to worry." Some people seem to be operating under the assumption that "If you felt some type of way about it, that was the point" as implying they were facists themselves for disagreeing, but if you read the director says, and have the context of the character who says it; Director: "We always wanted to have fun with the way Rudy talks about other superheroes," Soto said. "So to the people who got mad at it, give us a chance. We’re just trying to have fun with the characters that we love. And everybody in our movie loves Batman and Superman and Flash." He added, "And of course, we have criticisms about all of them, as we all should. But that doesn’t mean that we hate Batman." context: The character that says it is a paranoid conspiracy theorist who isn’t fond of superheroes. It becomes clear that they're trying to paint a dichotomy wherein not everyone views superheroes, or at least ALL superheroes as actual heroes. A distinction between a genuinely altruistic hero and a vigilante who's primary motivation is a revenge boner. Depending on how you look at things, what experiences comprise your worldview, you might think of Batman as one, or the other.* You could certainly still make a case that this is wokeism, but I think it's a stretch to say that Xolo was disrespectful, unless there's some other context I'm missing. *note: this dichotomy is present in Batman V Superman. They just didn't use the buzzword "fascist", so no one gave it a second thought. Actually, they were a lot more subtle with it in general, but just in seeing how the two operate, you can see it. And you can also see the motivation for it. Superman is a god. He doesn't have to feel fear for his own sake. Certainly not in the same way a mere human like Batman would. On one hand Batman is afraid superman is a threat to humanity, on the other superman is afraid batman is a threat to himself and others. The vigilante and the altruist. The vulnerable, and the invulnerable.

[@chunk3875]

Stop being a snowflake

[@nxxynx5039]

It was one of those films that couldn't keep a tone, one minute a dude is getting impaled through the torso and everyone is cheering next they're running around with bubble and rainbow guns. If they had dropped the "my dad was a blue beetle cosplayer with magic Ready Player One looking tech" angle the film would've been so much better

[@bradmerilic6848]

That’s surprisingly high praise coming from you. And considering this was originally meant to be a streaming only flick, I’d say this is the best outcome it could have ever expected. I am super confused why they changed their minds on that?! They threw MORE money at this thing both visually and for promotion. I guess my biggest question is…why? For all of it. Why? Someone answer me goddammit! Why why why?!

[@thanatosdriver1938]

Maybe they thought the final product was actually worth it

[@davidgantenbein9362]

They knew that the movie wouldn’t bring in new subscribers, so all the money invested would be wasted anyway. So they decided to spend a bit more and get some money from box office and digital sales later this year. Will it work out? Maybe. But they never bet on this movie paying back its full budget, just to pay back what they paid additionally. Given the review here, it seems to be at least an ok movie, so that makes their decision more valid imo. Though I really, really don’t understand why they still think people want to be lectured on how evil Batman is and why they made it so prominent in their marketing.

[@georgeh4171]

They probably thought it would be a Hispanic version of Black Panther. That’s the aspect they have been pushing about it

[@Pearlmetheus]

Dead honest the only thing good about the whole ass thing was the end credits scene where you get to ACTUALLY see the REAL Latin American superhero that everyone over there enjoyed watching back in the day, that was actually sweet to see The Red Grasshopper after all these years 💛❤️

[@valutaatoaofunknownelement197]

El Chapulín Colorado?!

[@Grasslander]

5:13 "Don't, uh ... don't go for a career in espionage, guys." 😄

[@valerievanwyk6122]

I just came from watching it, and tbh, I loved it. Yes, there is racial, cultural messaging being pushed, yes it is a 'standard superhero plot' and yes, the DC reboot is happening so idk how relevant this movie is gonna be. However I found it fun, emotional, and really well made considering the budget. For once I actually enjoyed the female characters, the male lead was THE LEAD and even saved the women in the movie on multiple occasions - which I missed so much in these kinds of movies like c'mon we ladies like a knight in shinning armour thank you very much. I enjoyed the famliy aspect, the bond with the AI, and the humour in this was not SOOOOO over the top as we have come to expect from superhero movies. It hit serious moments at points, I mean there was death in this (although PG) and what is dead here STAYED dead! Mind = blown. I agree, I don't think this is a bad movie, if anything, I feel sorry for it - that it came out in 2023.

[@Unicornpirate]

"Coming off the tail end of an abhorrent cinematic universe that's about to be James Gunn into irrelevancy". Couldn't have said it better myself. James Gunn is going to make all his movies like Guardians and push the team effort and his brother and it's all gonna be forgettable samey movies

[@kaelclemmerson9646]

Blue Beetle has the potential of setting up a great story arc. Young Justice used this idea pretty well. I doubt DC movies will use this to its potential.

[@tauheedkhan4299]

We will se e that in a sequel

[@beowulfsrevenge4369]

So the family has five adults who can all work in one capacity or another, even if some or all are illegal immigrants, they shouldn't have that much difficulty in paying rent/mortgage and feeding themselves. Why are their money issues so bad that they're in danger of losing their house? Especially finding out that Reyes is some sort of mechanical genius who made a universal jamming device. That could be very lucrative to sell or make things similar to it. It seems that they're just poor for "reasons" and don't think to hard about it.

[@kurtb8474]

Another great review! I went to see M:I 7 a couple of weeks ago and they advertised this movie. A young hispanic lady came on the screen and mentioned about how proud she was that there is a superhero for Latinos in a movie, now. And she said nothing else about it. That just turned off any curiosity I would've had for the movie.

[@MichaelJM]

Understandable. I went to see it anyway and frankly the 'Latino lens' is the best thing about the movie. It's something fresh in a film that otherwise checks off all the superhero movie boxes. You get to see an origin story from a unique cultural perspective. There's a way to sell that, but many people are tired of identity politics and just telling people "he's Latino" isn't enough.

[@xuvial1391]

A single hispanic lady saying something turned you off the movie? Sure thing buddy, you were definitely very curious in the first place.

[@aaronrubalcava7810]

​@@xuvial1391Same with me, killed off my interest for the movie too. And I'm mexican lol

[@Fedaygin]

@@aaronrubalcava7810Well.. Lol indeed for these cases

[@thelastminuteman7513]

I've noticed a rule in movies these days and that rule is you can only have a movies with positive family values rooted in tradition if that family is Hispanic. They rarely even ever do it with black families and white families are almost always portrayed as bad in many ways.

[@cane6074]

Of course they do they do that, that would require you to judge somebody, a the values of our ruling class, it's wrong to judge people, at least openly. though of course they're very hypocritical about that.

[@NeterRafi77]

So what is wrong if its hispanic families??????

[@IcanGOwithTHEflow]

​@@NeterRafi77that person clearly doesn't watch anything

[@scout.trooper9148]

Traditional values are only portrayed in a bad light when they're bigoted. Captain America was pretty Cristian, but that wasn't a character point that brought up issues or conflict because, above all, he's a good man, and he respects people.

[@tornadot2025]

That's because Hollywood is not run by white people these days.....

[@rogercroft3218]

Actually the top secret alien tech just sitting on a lab bench without security sounds like the most realistic thing in any superhero movie.

[@pauljosephmma]

I don't know what's worse the acting, the writing or your review😂

[@17matt95]

It has that feel of being a Cartoon Network original movie with better equipment to work with.

[@LexTenebris]

Here's the really sad thing about this movie: If the studio had advertised it as "a fun awakening of a young superhero, facing down a big evil corporation with powers he barely understands" - and that alone - it might have been perceived as generic but it would've had a chance. Punching things and feeling good are pretty easy to sell. The problem is that the actors, director, and producer would simply not shut up about how "meaningful" it was. Not fun, not entertaining, not enjoyable, not exciting… How it was incredibly meaningful and iconic for Mexican people everywhere. Why? Do Mexican people not like to have fun? Does it help you out to imply that the movie isn't for the rest of us, who like to have fun? I can accept a generic, by the numbers action film. Sometimes that's exactly what I want. Sell me that. But this abomination of marketing? Why would I want it? And I say that as someone who likes Blue Beetle in the comics, from Ted Kord on. There is a really pleasant dynamic to mine there. Even if much of the set up and payoff is "borrowed" from The Guyver. Without the interesting deep history. This didn't have to be the kind of failure it is. They decided it needed to be.

[@anotherthing]

This movie covers a LOT of the history of the Blue Beetle, all the way back to Dan Garrett. It comes off much more as a love letter to Blue Beetle fans than it does the woke masterpiece the director was making it out to be. There's even an entire scene that takes place in Ted Kord's Beetle Lair that's loaded with fan service.

[@samlawrence2239]

If you don't like the marketing, but the film is good, then maybe try not to follow the marketing so closely? It's quite easy to avoid interviews and articles about a single film. Also I think you're actually wrong about selling punching+feelgood - we've had like 90 different films and series about the same shit for decades now. Superhero fatigue is a real thing, and studios know they need an angle if they're gonna sell more of these lifeless cash-grabs.

[@LexTenebris]

@@samlawrence2239 Thanks for telling me "don't do that." Even though the whole point of advertising and marketing is to make it very difficult to avoid interviews and articles about the product in question, people talking about it, and if you have a general interest in media you actually care about such things. Are you telling me that I shouldn't care about such things? Are you suggesting that you know better than I what I should be doing with my time? Answer carefully. At this point, actually selling "we punch things and we feel good" WOULD be the new angle. He's not gender flipped, he's not angsty, he's not exiled, he's not traveling through time - not having a ridiculous gimmick very well could have been his ridiculous gimmick for the sale. Which is what I said in the first place. I'm not even saying that the film is good. It's tolerable. As others have said, it could have been good if they had leaned more into the "scarab as paranoid sadist intrusive thoughts"-line, actually producing some kind of conflict at that level but… They didn't. Their marketing team is not above criticism. No one is. And no one should be.

[@lionelruiz3247]

As a Mexican American, I'll say what no one else wants to admit. This movie definitely leaned into the race/culture aspect of it, which of course turns potential viewers away. They were probably hoping to create the same racial buzz black panther got but that movie came out when super hero fatigue wasn't a thing, and was admittedly a better movie. Me personally, it has the quality of a highly budgeted Disney channel movie so I wasn't a fan. A far cry from man of steel for example, and yes of course, I did feel pandered to. Me having a racial connection to this movie doesn't simply make it better by default. I won't call it woke, but it was definitely hoping for things other than it's story telling to carry it.

[@LexTenebris]

@@lionelruiz3247 I'm perfectly happy to say that they probably leaned a little hard into the "look at the funny Mexicans! Aren't they funny!?" aspect of the presentation. Jaime's ethnicity is actually a part, an important part, of the character and his situation, so it was going to happen… But in some ways it sort of came across like a white person's idea of what Mexican families SHOULD look like and act like. Which happens a lot, frankly. It's possible that the worst thing that this movie has done is be tolerable. It's not bad enough to hate and it's not good enough to like.

[@cujoedaman]

I really, really enjoy that they made Blue Beetle look like a blue Iron Man. Never seen that before. Except for Avengers: Endgame.

[@dafawk3855]

I didn't expect the drinker to say he liked it ....its bloody horrible, just watched it and came to see the drinker tear it to shreds,but i guess not

[@zekethefreak4]

Blue beetle is my favorite superhero so I was hoping to hear that it wasn’t that bad, in the comics he got ahold of the scarab after a lab explosion and it fell onto him while he was passing by, the scarab cannot be removed easily and the only way is in death they even had atom go into him at some point to remove it and as atom was cutting it these micro defense cells came out and started attacking thus proving that the scarab is something to be reckoned with it’s also good to mention as I haven’t seen the movie but the scarab is from an alien civilization named “Reach” and their goal with the scarabs was to send them to planets with intelligent life and use the host as a means to taking over planets, there was a Martian version and the reach had their own too

[@frogboy831]

idc if it's generic -it's so good, and i loved the emphasis on family. this one's sticking with me for a very long time.

[@Aniaro01]

I love how bored the Drinker talks about the fight scenes. That's exactly how I felt when I watched it. It doesn't happen very often that I enjoy the fight scenes of a superhero movie the least. Everything else was really solid at times, made me smile, made me almost shed a tear, made me interested. But the fight scenes had me like 😐

[@juliandavis9711]

I thought they scenes were well choreographed and fun

[@Aniaro01]

@@juliandavis9711 Yeah, but they felt generic. Nothing I haven't seen before, and as a big fan of superheroes, I have seen quite a few

[@juliandavis9711]

@@Aniaro01 Does every new movie need to break the mold and do something drastically different for you to enjoy it now? Cause if so that sucks 😞

[@Aniaro01]

@@juliandavis9711 No, not drastically different. But I don't want to watch something new that doesn't feel new. Also, I was just talking about the fight scenes, not the movie as a whole.

[@juliandavis9711]

@@Aniaro01 Gotcha gotcha 👊🏽

[@leaguemastergg3647]

8:00 Oh yeah, I can't believe they did modok dirty like that.

[@tinybee7780]

Insert Angel Manuel Soto's (now deleted) tweet of the laughing Skeletor gif with the caption "Well, My Job's Done." Yep, congratulations I guess?

[@guardianoflight1012]

I actually really liked this movie. Mayne it helps I never was apart of the Marvel craze that happened, even though I was in HS when all those movies were coming out. I didn't tire myself out from hero movies and actually still barely watch them. The only "recent" ones I've watched were Dr. Strange (which I loved), and Dr. Strange 2 (which I hated). And Morbius, but we all know that doesn't exist. So for me this was a really fun, cheese at times, but good movie! It was predictable yes, and I agree they obviously played tropes. But I enjoyed it as a casual super hero movie watcher.

[@hhfggvogtthehy6451]

I feel like this movie could be good, but everything surrounding it screams “Doomed to bomb”.

[@dashx1103]

It wouldn't be the first time a good movie "bombed."

[@ShaunRF]

The Guyver came immediately to mind as you were describing the premise and origin story.

[@Matthew_Klepadlo]

Every movie hollywood announces, I will immediately think it’s the worst, most garbage movie of all time and it’ll be woke to the max. Are my expectations unjustified?

[@Zac_Frost]

Not necessarily. You're just jaded from the status quo from the track record of the last 5-6 years of film. Not entirely unjustified for thinking so.

[@dickmelsonlupot7697]

It's not. Very few studios, let alone movies, are "fun" nowadays since what Hollywood, the Liberal left, the Demoncrats and those who defend them view as "fun" is looking down on the everyday man and shouting to the top of their lungs how "toxic" we are.

[@theretroshogun2961]

I say 50/50. Sure there's been pretty bad to okay movies but I think there's a decent chunk that pretty enjoyable. I'm not really obsessed with the whole woke thing, the only thing I really from it is the raceswaping and Mary Sue stuff.

[@brendofire2084]

I think I fall in that camp as well sometimes. I entered this movie with the most cynical of expectations. I ended up lightly surprised that it wasn’t completely terrible.