12-Guild Alliance FUMBLES Castle Siege! | Kastleton FOCUS VoD Review Throne & Liberty

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[@ImDevs]

As a core member of FTP i just wanna say dont feel bad for Focus, these guys talked shit for WEEKS about how we were delusional if we thought we were going to win siege. They called us lots of gamer words, tried to hate raid our streamers. They spam reported us and got me banned for a full week, I appealed it and was unbanned right before siege. They had the entire server gang up on us and it was the most pathetic castle defense ive ever seen. their whole plan was to hold chokes and have full on guilds sitting in the sewers to defend so that we couldnt get through as a flank team (that didnt go so well). They had full on alliances outside the walls to try and take golems from us and run them off cliffs. They planned to report all leadership to try and get every guilds advisors and guild leaders banned for 24 hours. They called us exploiters when they lost. They are some of the scummiest players I have ever played against and im so happy we won because now i get to sit on my throne and watch their guilds crumble because the members dont respect their pathetic scummy leadership. I hope you all enjoy this video as much as we in FTP & Swipe did. Huge thanks to blue squadron for reacting and making this video, Blue youre a living legend. Nothing but love

[@khmer-510]

As a non-core member of the other side. Both sides talk shit daily and both sides got people ban. Who started the report banning first? Who knows. We had people chat ban multiple times even with a 7 day ban. Sooo spam reporting has to be on both side if its a case of FTP/Swipe vs 12-guild alliance. (Or is it FTP/Swipe/AlphaRomero+friends) Also, there was a solid 3 way alliance 4v4v4 fight when we first transferred. We had 2 "hardcore" guilds and 2 casual guilds. And in 3 way battles one side will always get the short end either from pincer or from the last guild running in last to clear the battlefield. FTP/SWIPE great pvpers i admit 100%, and combined you guys dominate. Now don't get upset when the server starts to turn on you for denying the server conflict bosses (as the game intended). Call us a "zerg" but our numbers don't compare to yalls. Prime time we can have 25-35 in each guild if we're lucky. And yes that was the most pathetic castle defense ever, 1 guild had a full plan to protect the inner castle and dropped the ball HUGE. And for people to claim they use the exploit..I was embarrassed for the entire guild at that point. Then callers didn't even have an offense strategy in plan along with huge lack of knowledge of golems. But once those outer castle walls went down, there was no alliance and it was a free for all. As you guys held the castle, we were fighting outside killing anyone "Red" but also running around like headless chickens. As for scummiest players? There are a handful of loud mouths, but there are definitely more yappers on your side. E.x Having the time to go into enemy discord to spam is next level. But glad to share my part on it all.

[@Gats_B]

Not sure about peoples cope with acting like they had no involvement and they are the angels. You both were like little girls in world chat. FTP definitely acts like they have less in real life to be proud of than Focus though.

[@AnonymousCure]

@ImDevs they called you gamer words haha 😆 sounds like you got your self band. The preaching of propaganda is hard and obvious, and the harder they keep going on about it only makes it worse.

[@ImDevs]

@@Gats_B focus members or focus leadership? cause im talking about focus leadership.

[@ImDevs]

@@AnonymousCure I said no gamer words? I said "Keep yapping" "Huh" "Devs" "okay lmao keep typing" those 4 messages were enough to get me banned for 7 days. after the message logs and report logs were reviewed by AGS i was unbanned within 2 hours. It was a spam report. you dont have to believe me but when the dude who did it, gloats about doing it in discord comms and its leaked on stream, its kinda hard to say its my fault.

[@BigBoyMMO]

You tornado melee at engage to prevent dives which allows you to dump cc more efficiently, and allows you to run freely past the melee into backline for quick kills on squishy, they then pull back(2-3 seconds after nado ends) and pick off the melee remaining.

[@YoumadSuthran]

This might be the most unintentionally funny thing I've ever watched in my life, the golem segment had me on my fucking death bed This is peak, I'm never leaving this game

[@Mralonovadia22]

I came for Siege content, stayed for Pin 4

[@kevblaze0]

Making sure i stay in the pin 4 loop

[@nicknorton9072]

the hardest part about having that big of an alliance is when things got chaotic is that there is EXTREME amounts of friendly fire. You dont know who is who seeing everyone shows up as red instead of their guild logos. It was designed like that for obvious reasons, to not have the mega alliances. All in all, bad communication was the big reason this turned into a cluster which you obviously hit on several times.

[@sushi114]

There is an easy fix to this I saw it on reddit, in settings put hostile guild always show health bar, allies out of alliance no health bar. So when u see red with health bar its an enemy but a red with no health bar is friendly.

[@ImDevs]

@@sushi114 cringe af.

[@xibbas7055]

This is why the dominion system is good. It greatly reduces the effectiveness of any alliance over 4 guilds.

[@clayton-georgereid7280]

The player base of this game cares more about winning than having fun and that mindset will kill this game. Additionally this game lacks anything pvp related for small guilds to do. It's bdo without t1 or t2. The current mindset with lack of pvp content for small guilds will kill this game.

[@jeffreyrichardson9568]

You sound like a PvE casual 😂😂😂

[@clayton-georgereid7280]

@jeffreyrichardson9568 and you are clueless

[@clayton-georgereid7280]

@jeffreyrichardson9568 because that's not the case

[@SamuKhan-e9w]

dont worry just gear up until you can play with them. bdo is messing hard up the pvp. at least in tnl there are still match up game like this. this not the sign of a dying games. you know what dying game is? they put event and buff afk fishing for gather back people while doing afk stuff in game.​@@clayton-georgereid7280

[@jeffreyrichardson9568]

@@clayton-georgereid7280 confirmed

[@jtribb89]

Now that i watched this lol, our server did this too. And the only reason we got the castle open was because of our 16 man guild(all that was available at the time) was able to spawn in the golem and break open the gates

[@FlatSwole]

Honestly they lost this due to poor Sewer managment and piss poor planning. I won my Siege in amos and my job was literally having a team in sewers. If 1 person got away my job was to sound the emergency alarm. We killed any and everyone even the damn rats, until it was time for rain. I guarantee you they sent someone in sewers who had no braincells.

[@6thadmaddog]

Blue screaming about needing to take a res point while they’re capping the center res point, just shows how no one really knows what’s going on 😂

[@えーくっと]

Sieges should happen every week, not every two weeks because there is an insane amount of lucent (official RMT as you get Lucents with real money and the items you buy and sell are all happening with real money) and sollant (gold) involved. There are the castle siege weapons??? golems did not have any major impact except breaching the walls and that's it. Defenders even cannot use the siege weapons on their walls lol... I must say that, the castle siege system of T&L is so bad and plain. I remember Lineage 2 Aden Castle Siege and even Oren Castle Siege etc, it is far more fan than Throne and Liberty. Defenders can hire npc castle soldiers, place traps, use castle skills, there are golems - far better and cooler versions than T&L for sure, and so many other things. There are Fortress Siege system, which is great too (a npc comes and ask if you are gonna loyal to castle lord or not etc, pvp item farms by farming fortress npc guards and so on). What T&L Castle Siege has? nothing is unique.

[@germanchokolat1]

This is the best thing I have ever seen on KZbin

[@PapaaGrimes]

FTP to da moon babyy🔥

[@khmer-510]

That shit was hilarious and embarrassing and i"m on the embarrassing team's side. 1 guild was suppose to watch the inner castle and only few people got delegated. But once castle was taken, headless chickens for 28 mins listening to the shot callers make calls doing nothing. Huge lack of knowledge.

[@Godz_ROD]

I dont fault them for the not knowing to teleport by pressing B. Its very hard to notice when the game dont properly explain some things 😅

[@pepedeltoro6647]

This reminds me of the large scale fights in Albion, a giant cluster fuck 😂

[@darthpapa]

Trump impersonation on point. Almost as good as Shane Gillis.

[@ShadowGardenBDO]

We love blue

[@GM_Skyler]

hahaha gg!~ FTP on top

[@ImDevs]

FTP family

[@AlioTheo]

Staff and Bow can hit people in the air from a tornado? Fire ball em and flash wave em/attack?

[@mnopinion]

Yeah, but only them.. once enemy is up in the air, melee is effectively useless. So kinda a double edge sword tbh.. most of the time its good for escape or disengage. Not for initiation…

[@acrazytadpol_]

They should have watched Whelp's video on the siege

[@davy-ish]

Focus was so confident 😂

[@Acorn42069]

Please pray for Focus.

[@ImDevs]

GG Acorn!

[@dbone411]

GG WP GL NEXT

[@ImDevs]

DESTROY THESE FOOLS!

[@Fliipout]

Smoking On That Focus Pack💨💨💨 FTP x Swipe On Top

[@marioharrer9999]

Ngl this react vid was absolute cinema. well done sir.

[@abs_creations1952]

hold pin 4. boss we lost the castle. i dont care hold pin 4!

[@Nanatsuyoo]

idk man, 70 ppl watching for sewers and lurkers couldnt kill 1 person. gotta be troll

[@ImDevs]

they never told any of these guilds they had allianced the plan, they didnt trust them. there was also a language barrier with things needing to be translated. they were so confident that they thought there was no chance they could lose and you could tell by how confident and arrogant they were in world chat. "just wait till siege Devs :)" "ur 100% delusional if you think youre winning siege" these guys thought they could just hold the outer wall choke and have guilds protect the sewers and everything would go their way. thats what arrogance gets you tho. they never practice they never scrim like we do. they are lazy and expected everything to come their way because they were zerging.

[@Nanatsuyoo]

@ the practice part I agree with you about. FTP alliance actually set times to practice and go against each other which I wanted us to do but I have no say in this matter, I’m in dark btw.. but before the siege begun, us assassins in focus were supposed to roam and look for ppl like Kelty, but we were told before siege started that surge appointed Geotia for that and there is a whole guild doing our job so we wouldn’t need to worry. Yes I don’t think we deserve to win something we didn’t practice for like ftp alliance did. But it’s also frustrating when your whole back line got bombed and turned the siege around when they had 70 people whose sole job was to watch for shit like that.

[@ImDevs]

@@Nanatsuyoo I completely understand your frustration, and homie the loss falls solely on focus leadership, not its members. Focus leadership was so pathetically underprepared for this event to the point where it’s honestly laughable! They underestimated us so hard they cost their members the siege. With more time and effort from leadership focus had this in the bag. They coulda practiced they coulda done more with the alliances they had, they coulda cut fat and recruited better players who were more active and wanted to become hardcore. Instead they were lazy and overconfident and this is the result of that. Completely silent comms from shotcallers, no attack strategy at all, people confused not knowing how siege works or what to do (can’t blame them they are new and it’s leaderships job to prepare them and guide them). Hard work pays off and focus wasn’t willing to put in the hard work like FTP and Swipe did. Good fight tho respect to you for not being delusional and saying we cheated or some dumb shit.

[@Nanatsuyoo]

@ you say a lot of what I want to say to them. Many of them are sad and mad at the fact they lost and that surprises me. We just aren’t a hard core guild, if we were, we would’ve kicked out players who are more pve oriented or members who can’t make boon/rift stones, many members can’t show up because of work yet they are still in this guild.. that is peak symbolism of not a hard core guild. After every conflict boss people complain about numbers lol. Yeah maybe if u kicked and replaced with people that can show up that wouldn’t be an issue. Aside from that, no practice, I heard you guys unfriendly the alliance and go against each other for practice, when I see you pushing you walk in a formation and there are no gaps to take advantage of, while in focus a call is made to push in and half our alliance is standing there at the back. All that is fine for a casual guild, but will also inevitably lose to a hard core guild like ftp actually trying to win. But them being sad and discouraged about it shows that they expected a different outcome, idk how u expect to win when you didn’t do what’s needed to actually compete. Had we won it would have been a complete fluke, cause we just weren’t ready. Btw abt the cheating, we saw a few ppl going through walls in the sewer area before siege, so when y’all were behind us we assumed you did it to get through, but after seeing the vod it was as simple as 70 people weren’t capable of holding sewers

[@CommitJungle]

xdd they held point 4 like champs though

[@Gusty331]

Gusty

[@ImDevs]

Devs

[@b_u_n_ny.r_a_b_b_i_t]

Think it should be obvious that the guilds/alliances that controls the conflict bosses are the ones who has the best chances at taking the castle. They should've let Focus Unknown take charge of comms because those guys ended up on top 5 compared to their other "main alliance guilds" lol

[@ImDevs]

pls let apachepenguin take charge XD that guy is a certified mentally unstable delusional idiot with anger issues. you let him lead everything and he will lead you into your own grave.

[@awoowashere]

Review Japan server sieges

[@Alter_Di]

It wasn't a 12 guild Alliance. If you look at the kills, you would see the top 12 guilds combined outside of ftp and swipe killed way more then ftp and swipe together. This story is built on lies. Focus guilds were killing other focus guilds, Alfa Romero, etc. All these guilds in the so-called 12 guild alliance were not allianced and fought each other. It was more like a 4v4v4v4 and FTP was the best of the 4s for sure.

[@adversedgaming]

We definitely know this is not true from all the guilds who hopped in the focus comms and had no direction on what to do next lol. Either way it was definitely 8 with the carrots so lefts be honest here.

[@Aaurial]

saying that because they had more kills combined makes it not true is delusional, brother you know there is more than just the Focus zerg alliances and FTP/Swipe right? Focus alliances were killing every other guild that wasnt FTP/Swipe outside the walls for like 35 minutes after they were evicted.

[@thepaparya]

I was in the second alliance in the outside and we were all WONDERING “how tf did FTP get the throne already…”

[@ImDevs]

crazy how yall had numbers for the alliances bro thats wild...

[@garyzboril6352]

This doesn't actually show how bad it really was .. my 6 man group got 700 kills and we died 2 times each😂😂😂 ftp/swipe hit um with the lawnmower

[@CrooKdLetterJ]

Best fights are when your 1v3 and come out on top somehow

[@thepaparya]

Also I spoke with a Focus member and apparently the vod where Kelty got into the castle and called the whole entire alliance with a resurrection stone (the more I hear it the more it sounds like a inside job) the single guy or anyone near there NEVER called out that they are inside until ages after the whole FTPxSwipe alliance had the resurrection spot near the throne I do wonder how the fight would of went if kept wasn’t let into the throne because the second alliance who was tasked with clapping the outside did the job well for denying golems

[@thepaparya]

All in all the siege went to poop because leadership was garbage on focus side and a lot of last min bs also the shot caller for alliance 2 was Garbo and didn’t know how to prioritize obj correctly after we were told to get into castle

[@seabass9043]

we were already inside the walls when kelty put the gate down. it would have taken longer but FTP/Swipe still gets to the throne

[@deustauries]

Are your knees sore?

[@Pvpaddic]

Focus always zerg in any game they play. Most of them sucks at the game so they have to zerg. This siege proved it.

[@Acveus]

How did Focus's 12 Guild Alliances lose to a 4 Guild FTP Alliances? Sometimes number isn't everything if you do not have braincells and incompetent leadership. If I was focus I would uninstall.

[@ImDevs]

thats what we have been telling them to do but they are still in world chat coping. they are blaming the other guilds in alliance 2 and alliance 3 for the loss.

[@thepaparya]

They won because one idiot tank let the whole FTP alliance into the sewer entrance

[@seabass9043]

FTP ON TOP

[@omaior20]

MBDOGA

[@seanmccloud9743]

Lmao we defended with 3 guilds trash

[@ceesay2010]

GG lol

[@5-ht2a]

well you guys whining about bow user,what about gs keep stun rotation and high damage hit they should get nerf too,and dagger user.the dagger should be nerf not the bow.

[@deustauries]

Skill issue kid.

[@AnonymousCure]

What actually happen was FTP had A member join The Ranks of Focus So that they could shadow strike across the grail with out the rain or rats above ground 😂 they literally complain about pvp content yet they completely avoid it for seige cause they knew they could never beat Focus Head on! 😂😂 FTP and SWIP bots and Rmt swipers biggest jokes of all. And for shit talking all i ever see is FTP and Swipe shit talking when all of Focus always just ends with GGs the manipulation and propaganda from these people is actually disgusting and this is coming from some one on the side lines 😂 12 guild alliance got to love the over reaction 😂 sad attemp to gain clout thumbs down. Oh not to mention once focus lost siege ground they took the golems and ran around to play keep away 😂 oh they want pvp so bad lol

[@Gats_B]

The only verifiably truthful piece of this is that FTP has bragged on multiple occasions to have had a mole. On this front though, all is fair in war. Time to get that bank account ready to pay for someone to inside FTP now on 2nd siege.

[@AnonymousCure]

​@Gats_B I gotten direct confirmation from there leads they planned on it they knew they were never gonna win a head on battle it's why they planted a mole and back doored Focus

[@valkryspirit]

@@AnonymousCure Apachepenguin cult follower spotted

[@Gats_B]

@@AnonymousCure My comment was deleted for some reason, but I had a thought about that once i saw the video. Get the ball rolling on getting an insider on FTP so we can see Flip lose his mind like he did before this siege over multi alliances.

[@AnonymousCure]

@Gats_B a little birdy told me focus was gonna do even better leave the server and leave them with out content or any pvp who they gonna compete vs if not focus nobody it will be a dead server. Hahaha. And I don't blame them one bit. their toxicity is 24/7