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BMW E30 "Armo" M52B30 ITB first start (ps. turn up the volume)

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Starting the engine in a makeshift test rig. Aluminum block single vanos M52B28 with M54B30 internals, S50 ITBs and a bit more aggressive cams. Something seems to be wrong with the idle as it starts climbing soon after starting.
EDIT: I noticed a few things were off. The TPS sensor was operating backwards and reading wot at idle because even though the S50 uses the same sensor, it is wired differently. Repinning the connector got that sorted. Also, the O2 sensors were not heating up because they were right at the end of open headers. That was fixed by bolting the exhaust in place. With those sorted out the idle was stable enough to do the vacuum syncing of the ITBs. After that the idle was pretty nice and smooth but a little high at 1300 rpm. I suspect that's because the bypass needles allow more air through than the ecu is expecting and it reaches the limit of ICV adjustment. But I'll see where the idle settles once the engine is in the car and there's more load on alternator etc. At the moment I've painted the underside and the imside of the car and assembled the suspension. The car is heading to be painted and I plan to have it running and driving next summer.
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Here's pics of the engine build progress:
anttikarppinen...
And here's a build thread for the whole car:
www.r3vlimited...

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@bartomiejmirosz2004
@bartomiejmirosz2004 3 жыл бұрын
when you cant afford a car but still want to have nice sounding engine
@aqib2000
@aqib2000 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazing table 😂😂😂 just duct the exhaust
@brodsterm3
@brodsterm3 2 жыл бұрын
🤣 @bartomie but seriously, it's all about that Mpower baby!! "once you go M, forget the rest ah them" @bmw @m3 @mpower #ultimatedrivingmachine
@Whatawise1
@Whatawise1 3 жыл бұрын
Man if I could just have one of those pallets sent to me it would be the best Christmas gift ever. What a beautiful setup.
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
Plain pallet or with accessories?
@supadupa3
@supadupa3 3 жыл бұрын
Love the test rig. Would be great to see some more of it and how it's been made/wired up. Subscribed for more :-)
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
Here are some pics of the rig as well as the whole engine build: anttikarppinen.kuvat.fi/kuvat/E30+Armo/M52B28(30)+engine/ Test rig is DSC 0661 (one of them, there seem to be two pics titled DSC 0661 courtesy to using several cameras) and onwards. The setup is very simple. The M52 engine wire loom is very self-sufficient and needs just a few wires from the body. I made a simple control panel with a switch for ignition and a push button for start as well as lamps for oil pressure and alternator warning lights. The wires went into an E36 multi pin connector that I salvaged from a scrap car. The engine obviously connects to that. In addition the rig had a battery that was feeding the engine wiring loom and the control panel and a fuel system that consisted of E30 in-tank fuel pump mounted in a 5 litre plastic fuel can. Of course the actual pump is an uprated one suitable for ethanol as that's what the engine is running on.
@supadupa3
@supadupa3 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 thank you for the quick reply and taking the time to explain. I really appreciate it. The link is brilliant, I love the restoration on the e30. Looks very very clean. I have an e30 too with an m52b28 which I spun #6 rod bearing on. I have another m52b28 to put in and I will be putting a turbo on it. I think my bearing failure was due to oil starvation (fast street driving). I'm glad to see that you have baffled your sump. Did you make it yourself or is it part kit part diy? I've bought an oil accumulator to protect against this in the future but I also plan to baffle the sump too.
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
@@supadupa3 Thanks! The oil sump baffle is completely DIY but it's obviously copied from kits you can buy. I'm stingy on money and love doing stuff myself :D
@supadupa3
@supadupa3 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 I'm exactly the same. :-D I waited ages for a cheap deal on the oil accumulator. I bought a second hand moroso one in the end. If I didn't get one cheap I was going to use a fire extinguisher mounted vertically somewhere. I'm in the UK so have an alloy block too (with liners). Are you going to put head studs in or stick to bolts? I'm thinking about spending our being stingy on my replacement engine... I could get raceware head studs and a cut ring head gasket... or keep it unopened and put an m54b30 or n54 in if or when it goes pop.
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
@@supadupa3 Stock head bolts. It's an N/A engine so no problem there.
@jangkar-laut
@jangkar-laut 2 жыл бұрын
very useful to add insight and knowledge
@silverdude4668
@silverdude4668 2 жыл бұрын
i love how the rig even has cooling issues XD Just like a real bmw
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and the reason is exactly the same as why BMWs usually have them. Someone didn't bother to reinstall the wind tunnel and other pieces that actually make the air flow through the radiator. Also an old shitty radiator.
@jonathandeclercq6328
@jonathandeclercq6328 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing work, I have an m52b25 stroked to 2,7.Also I have an complete s50b30 for parts. So the exhaust manifolds are now on the m52 and I am planning to also swap the itb’s and airbox over(now it is an m50intake). What adapter plate did you use, and also did you use the complete oil filter housing of the m50 or just the cap? And can an stock dme be changed to support the itb’s? And do you know how to clearance for the brake booster? And are there other things I need to know??
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Which crankshaft did you use to stroke the engine to 2,7 l? By the way, is the S50B30 an unsalvageable engine if you're using it only for parts? Then to your questions: ADAPTER: I don't really know the brand of my adapter because I bought it secondhand but there are various options available depending on where you live. Based on your name and the facts that you have an S50 Euro engine and used a comma as a decimal separator I assume that you're from Europe. Here's one option: www.qualitec.eu/pmc-aluminium-itb-adapter-bmw-e36-m3-bmw-m50m52 And a couple others: www.ebay.com/itm/303276814370 www.hackengineering.co.uk/product/s50-itb-adapter-manifold-for-m50m52-engines/ www.driftshop.com/itb-adapter-spacer-bmw-m50-m52.html OIL FILTER HOUSING: I'm not using an oil filter housing from an M50. I just have an early model engine with the M50 style filter housing. The caps are not interchangeable. But I don't think the plastic oil filter cap causes fitment issues. You will need to reroute the crankcase ventilation and do some work on the TPS sensor but that's because of the vanos solenoid and not because of the oil filter cap. DME: The stock DME (Siemens MS41) can be remapped for ITBs or other upgrades for the engine. The oldest MS41 ECU:s (Euro ms41.0 versions 1744598, 1427703, and 1427704) are not flashable but if you have a plastic oil filter cap I think your engine should be new enough to have a flashable ECU. If not, you can always get a newer ECU. Lately I've been doing final tuning for my engine. Now it should be very close to being in tune and I hope to dyno it in a week or two. Pazi88 has a great series of videos about tuning Siemens ECUs: kzbin.info/aero/PLS-cVHPi-DmNij4dilXd2Oa45CmYYyliC BRAKE BOOSTER: You don't say which car you have the engine in. If it's an E36, E34 or e39 you should have no problems with the brake booster. If it's an E30 it's a different story. I wanted to fit the engine and the itb's without needing to cut or modify them so I went with a hydraulic brake booster from an E23 and moved the brake booster about 6 cm towards the fender. But I can't really recommend that option. It was a tremendous amount of work. Much more than I expected. For a compact brake booster you have some other options like an electric booster from a tesla but the simplest choice is as small a vacuum booster as possible. You can tilt the engine to passengers side but most likely you still need to modify the S50 plenum. There are two main problem areas. The plenum may hit the vacuum booster So you may need to cut off a corner and weld a clearanced piece there. Next problem is the S50 rubber intake channel hitting the brake main cylinder. You can counter this by replacing the rubber piece with a welded aluminum elbow. OTHER INFORMATION: See my reply to Tom Peters in this video's comments. That should have pretty much all the information that I can think of: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYWrnJKApLaoarc&lc=z22ycxpi1znbubwfhacdp433g3zcpaqj5lbs0w5c05hw03c010c.1629559073833535
@pieterlastname1276
@pieterlastname1276 4 жыл бұрын
Looks and sounds great! I have m5228 dual vanos engine. Did those E36 M3 Throttle bodies fit or did you have to make an adaptor plate to attach the throttles to the cylinder head? Would love to know how they fitted. My oil filter is different to your setup too.
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, I've missed your comment. There is a store bought adapter piece between the head and the throttle bodies. It increases the intake runner length about 45 mm. The throttle bodies are from an S50B30 but to achieve better intake runner length, I used the plenum and the intake runners from S50B32. I had to flip the TPS sensor connector to clear the vanos solenoid. In addition I changed the S50 breather and oil separator system to fit the front sump oil pan and modified the engine coolant lines to fit with everything else. There is very little room under the plenum. The engine uses the stock M52 ECU and electronics with a remap. Here you can find pics along the engine build: anttikarppinen.kuvat.fi/kuvat/E30+Armo/M52B28(30)+engine/
@pieterlastname1276
@pieterlastname1276 4 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 wow thanks so much for the reply and link I appreciate you sharing.your photos and documentation is the best I have ever seen on the Internet with so much detail it's just awesome thanks so much.you are really talented I am amazed at your talent skills. Well done with your project.
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 4 жыл бұрын
@@pieterlastname1276 No problem! Here's also a build thread for the whole car. I think it's available even if you don't sign in: www.r3vlimited.com/board/forum/general-forums/members-rides/the-project-forum/341343-project-armo-330i
@roadwarrior144
@roadwarrior144 3 жыл бұрын
Someone will call crazy, because I am, but that sounds kind like an old V8! Or at least it makes me think of one!
@bogdangrigore8736
@bogdangrigore8736 3 жыл бұрын
that big cams are the answer
@danielmanzoni9134
@danielmanzoni9134 3 жыл бұрын
Some straight sixes have a sorta v8 sounding burble down low ive noticed, the bmw s/m5x seem to. Sorta like old american straight sixes
@Scancode95
@Scancode95 3 жыл бұрын
Bahut achhe video banay aap ne sir india
@iliasmetalworks
@iliasmetalworks 3 жыл бұрын
Love the panel!!!
@WashJosh
@WashJosh 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing this makes me imagine what can go with it. Imagine a Honda/Acura😂
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
Especially first gen NSX is actually very well designed car with powerplants that propably trump my creation (sad to say). If this engine didn't go in an E30 I'd probably be putting it somewhere where it absolutely doesn't belong to. Like for example Toyota Starlet + E39 axles. Make the car two seater front/mid engine with the engine behind the front axle if possible and the seats where the rear seat normally is.
@WashJosh
@WashJosh 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 that would be one unique build right there.
@ALPINA527
@ALPINA527 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously good work building that out of various compatible parts and getting it running, how much power?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Should be around 230-240 hp. This is a kind of budget build to get the car running. Later plans include higher compression ratio, bigger cams and a lighter flywheel. Which would hopefully bring me close to or over 300 hp.
@BB0777
@BB0777 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 Then , u will fly mate:)
@svullman
@svullman 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 stock m54b30 is around 230 why didnt you just go with a m54, it has way more potential for a budget build then m50 or m52 has for turbo and n/a
@DrEvil-os9dc
@DrEvil-os9dc 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 are you going to use the S52B32 cams?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
@@svullman M54B30 doesn't pass inspection for an E30 in Finland. Of course you can always say it's an M54B25. I replied you in another comment for other reasons of picking this engine. But the main point for the build is the feeling I got from building it and that I'll get from drivong it. It doesn't really matter if the engine isn't the absolute best performance choice.
@wadefoster5864
@wadefoster5864 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good
@dustinnordrum2106
@dustinnordrum2106 Жыл бұрын
What did you have to do to the engine wiring harness to make it work with stock ECU? I've got an m54b30 with manual that I want to swap into my Datsun 280z but need to know if I can use the stock engine loom
@peanutbutterpadre1519
@peanutbutterpadre1519 Жыл бұрын
s52 cams? if so im about to build the same thing but with some n2o 🙊
@RajaAli-oj1sd
@RajaAli-oj1sd 3 жыл бұрын
I changed my motor to a single vanos engine. I heard it is stronger but it won’t show any thing in the display. Some one told me it not possible and you need to program the engine ?
@MrSaimirHydi
@MrSaimirHydi 2 жыл бұрын
Mazda Mx5 should have one of these engines😂🤗
@user-rj9xz7jh9x
@user-rj9xz7jh9x 3 жыл бұрын
Влюбиться можно
@naiminkokokoko1077
@naiminkokokoko1077 3 жыл бұрын
GOOD
@svullman
@svullman 3 жыл бұрын
Nice engine but why use the worst m5x block? M54 has a beter block and beter CAMs on the M54B30 and they hade realy good low end
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
I've been building this car for around ten years. Back then M52TU and M54 engines were pretty expensive. Where as I got M52B28 and everything needed to mount it in E30 for really a bargain price. M52TU and M54 are objectionally better engines but M52(Euro) isn't that bad for an NA engine.
@chasermalloy7406
@chasermalloy7406 3 жыл бұрын
M52 and M54 bottom ends are virtually identical. No extra strength in the M54 block
@TaylorMadejdm1975
@TaylorMadejdm1975 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it idles High
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it did. In the video description there's more about that.
@Upintheclub1991
@Upintheclub1991 3 жыл бұрын
What headers are those I like how it has the flex pipe at the rear flange for easier Maneuvering
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
Those are some generic chinese stainless long tube headers that I modified a bit. I shortened them a bit at the rear, added flex joints and V-bands and moved the O2 sensor bungs.
@user-fq5gt1zq6z
@user-fq5gt1zq6z 3 жыл бұрын
Одно не пойму что за ARMO присобачена на декоративную крышку.
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
ARMO это прозвище проекта. Это происходит от номера лицензии. Табличку на декоративной крышке я сделал из нержавеющей стали методом лазерной резки.
@user-fq5gt1zq6z
@user-fq5gt1zq6z 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 Теперь ясно.Спасибо что объяснил. Я по началу подумал это тюнинг ателье такое)))Даже гуглить пытался)))
@blade-vk
@blade-vk 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Can you tell me what M54 internals you mean? Crankshaft, rods, pistons? What head did you used? Thanks
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, My engine is Euro M52B28 single vanos. So it has a nikasil plated aluminum block with the bore of 84 mm. The head is the stock M52 single vanos that has been overhauled. The crankshaft, rods and pistons are from an M54B30. The bearings and piston rings are M52. To accommodate the internals I needed to make two changes: 1 - Have the top ring groove in the pistons widened from 1,2 mm to 1,5 mm to be able to use M52 piston rings. This is required because I have a nikasil plated block and M54 piston rings are not suitable for it. If you have a cast iron block or a cast iron sleeved block (M50, M52 US spec, M52TU), you don't need to modify the piston ring grooves, because M54 piston rings will work fine. 2 - Drill out the crankshaft timing sensor position at the back of the block and use M52TU/M54 crankshaft sensor. This was required because I wanted to use the M54 harmonic damper which has no trigger ring. Also, because the TU sensor is more reliable. But I could have avoided it by using a harmonic damper with a trigger ring. For M52TU this modification is not required since it already has the crankshaft sensor at the back of the block.
@igorigor9935
@igorigor9935 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 коленвал+шатуны+поршни с м54б30, только кольца поршневые с м52б28? Требуется доработка поршней?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
@@igorigor9935 Точно
@igorigor9935
@igorigor9935 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 спасибо за ответ. поршень надо доработать? Настроили уже такой строкер?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
@@igorigor9935 Да, мой enine - это Строкер 3,0 л. Изначально двигатель M52B28 с одноместным двигателем VANOS. Он имеет алюминиевый блок, покрытый никасилом. Чтобы приспособить внутреннее устройство, мне потребовалось внести два изменения: 1 - Увеличьте верхнюю канавку поршневого кольца в поршнях с 1,2 мм до 1,5 мм, чтобы можно было использовать поршневые кольца M52. Это необходимо, потому что у меня блок с никасиловым покрытием и поршневые кольца M54 для него не подходят. Если у вас чугунный блок или чугунный блок с гильзой (M50, M52TU), вам не нужно изменять канавки поршневых колец, потому что поршневые кольца M54 будут работать нормально. 2 - Просверлите положение датчика синхронизации коленчатого вала на задней стороне блока и используйте датчик коленчатого вала M52TU / M54. Это было необходимо, потому что я хотел использовать демпфер гармоник M54, у которого нет спускового кольца. Еще потому, что датчик ТУ надежнее. Но я мог бы избежать этого, применив гармонический демпфер со спусковым кольцом. Для M52TU эта модификация не требуется, так как на задней части блока уже установлен датчик коленвала.
@davidsilas6590
@davidsilas6590 7 ай бұрын
guys i need help,i just bought engine m52 for my e30.But the engine can crank but there didnt have injector pulse.There have postive currento but didnt have negative current pulse same goes coil plug also.I already changed crank sensor.Hope u guy help me thanks.God bless you
@davidsilas6590
@davidsilas6590 7 ай бұрын
should i do flash ews ?
@budrobadre
@budrobadre 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds mean!
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 4 жыл бұрын
Sure does with wide open headers. Here's with a bit of revving. (although the stock dual mass that I have on it for now takes some of the fun away) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqHSfGmfZ5aff6s
@user-wd7gm4yb1z
@user-wd7gm4yb1z 3 жыл бұрын
0:38 like!!! однозначно!
@alexandrechauveau3378
@alexandrechauveau3378 3 жыл бұрын
hello i have a m52b28 e46. I would like to know what is the wire for the contact to the computer? thank you
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
The M52 wiring loom is fairly self-sufficient. The ecu is connected to the engine wiring loom with a multi-pin connector. In addition to that there's the main power and ground and a couple of multi pin connectors that take care of the necessary connections to the body wiring. (fuel pump power, ifnition, starter etc.) Here's a good video about modifying M52B28 wiring to fit E30. On the video Pasi goes through the essential pinouts and in tge info section there are useful links. The video is in finnish but there are English subtitles. Hopefully this gives an answer to your question. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqm9kKF-jKlljqs
@dantheman5907
@dantheman5907 3 жыл бұрын
I want it in my boat
@pennsylvaniae3624
@pennsylvaniae3624 3 жыл бұрын
Is armo a company that builds the m50/52?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
No, it's just a nickname for my project. The name is in Finnish and it comes from the license plate. I built the engine myself.
@DrEvil-os9dc
@DrEvil-os9dc 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! Can I ask who makes those ITBs and intake manifold and where to get them? 🙂
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
The ITBs are from an S50B30 Euro engine. Between the head and the ITBs there is an aluminum adapter piece with the length of 45 mm. You can find them when you search M52 S50 itb adapter. The intake runners and the plenum are from an S50B32. The intake runners are shorter than in S50B30 and work better witj the increased intake length from the adapter. The IMM amd the filter box are from an S50B32 as well.
@NikolaiCherepanov
@NikolaiCherepanov 3 жыл бұрын
RHD makes an ITB kit
@ianholmen888
@ianholmen888 3 жыл бұрын
No.
@E46miley
@E46miley 3 жыл бұрын
what ITB kit is this?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
S50B30 Euro throttle bodies paired up with S50B32 Euro intake runners and plenum. Installed with an adapter plate between the head and the ITBs.
@E46miley
@E46miley 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 thats awesome do you know what power gains are with a good proper tune?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
@CJ Motorworkz The power gains from the ITBs are up for debate. A friend of mine went back to stock manifold on a race car because he was making better power with it. As I see it in my project the power gains come from other mods in the engine and the ITBs are there just for throttle response, sound, looks and because I enjoyed building them.
@TechTokOffical
@TechTokOffical 3 жыл бұрын
Also what does armo stand for?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
It's just a name that I gave the project. It comes from the lisense plate. It means grace in Finnish and it's also a person's name.
@tevaitau3145
@tevaitau3145 3 жыл бұрын
Do you paint the rocker cover?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
I milled the bmw text off and widened the flat area a liitle. Then had a plate with the logo lasercut amd fixed it with small hex socket screws.
@liljmanjuan
@liljmanjuan 2 жыл бұрын
how much do one of these cost?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 2 жыл бұрын
Here's roughly what I paid for stuff: - M52B28 complete engine from and E36 with wiring harness, 5-speed ZF gearbox, E34 M50 oil pan and dipstick etc. to make it fit an E30: 750 € (nowadays I think it would be more. I also later swapped the gearbox for a 6-speed one) - Revurbished head, secondhand unused - 250€ - M54B30 crank, pistons and conrods: 600€ - S50 ITBs, plenum, MAF and air filter box: 800€ - Adapter for ITBs, secondhand unused: 250€ - Camshafts, secondhand unused: 200€ - Exhaust manifold: 250€ - New timing sensors and maf: Maybe 500€ - Machining services: 250€ - New seals, bearings, piston rings etc: maybe 400€ - New clutch: 250€ - Liquids, workshop consumables + various tidbits: Probably 400€ or so All together around 4500-5000 € for a fully refurbished engine ready to go intoa a car. However that's only for this engine. Some of the parts I bought quite a long time ago and the prices may have changed since then. Also some of the parts are bought secondhand. I live in Finland and this is of course based on Finnish price level. I did almost all the work myself so I didn't pay anything for that. In addition to parts I've paid maybe 400€ for engine tuning and dyno time. For clarification: ARMO Garage is not a commercial tuning company. Just a name for a KZbin channel about one guy and his project car.
@justonepaking3021
@justonepaking3021 3 жыл бұрын
What trans is it on now?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
ZF GS6-37BZ six speed manual
@Mara-53-b9z
@Mara-53-b9z 3 жыл бұрын
Colocar um motor desses no uno kkkk
@renatinhodaheropuch1260
@renatinhodaheropuch1260 3 жыл бұрын
Só na próxima
@Kaizer243
@Kaizer243 3 жыл бұрын
I think it is e36 m engine right?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
No. The engine is from an E36 328i with some modifications. The internals are from M54B30 (E46 330i / E39 530i engine). The individual throttle bodies and the plenum are from S50B30 and S50B32 (E36 M3 engines).
@piotrwalewski8650
@piotrwalewski8650 3 жыл бұрын
Why it is reving so high?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
In the video description there's the explanation.
@TechTokOffical
@TechTokOffical 4 жыл бұрын
Is this a us spec motor build?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 4 жыл бұрын
Nope, Euro spec. So it's an aluminum block with nikasil plated cylinders. I'm from Finland.
@idokwatcher2062
@idokwatcher2062 4 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 When you build a 3L stroker with nikasil (or alusil) do you sleeve the cylinders or do you just make sure they (and the coating) are not worn or scarred? Also do you know if Euro M52TUB28 (dual vanos, E46 328) has alusil, nikasil or neither? There is so much conflicting information and people keep using M52 and M52TU interchangeably like they are the same thing.
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 4 жыл бұрын
@@idokwatcher2062 Alusil was never used for M5X or S5X engines. I think it was only used for M60 engines. Here's a short listing of different M5X engine variants with block material: - M50 and M50TU all around the world: Cast iron block - M52 Euro: Aluminum block with nikasil coating - M52 North America: Cast iron block (same block as M50TU) - M52 for Z3 North America: Aluminum block with cast iron sleeves. This block was also used as a replacement block in case of nikasil failures because of poor quality fuel. -M52TU All around the worl: Aluminum block with cast iron sleeves. The coolant flow is different from single vanos version so the blocks and heads are not interchangeable with single vanos engines. -M52TU North America: Cast iron -S50 US spec: Cast iron block (same as M50TU, different bore) -S52 (US spec): cast iron block (same as M52 US spec, different bore) - M54 all around the world: Aluminum block with cast iron sleeves. Same layout and coolant flow as M52TU. Blocks and heads are interchangeable. My engine is Euro spec with nikasil coating. The coating was fine and the block required no work. I used M54 pistons and had the top compression ring groove widened to accept M52 piston rings. (Top compression ring height 1,5 mm instead of 1,2 mm)The correct part number for piston rings for nikasil block is Mahle 083 16 N0. Nikasil itself as a material is very durable unless there is high sulphur content in the fuel. However, when it fails the block is basically trash unless you have it sleeved. It's also a bit problematic to resurface the block because the coating may chip. So far it's not difficult to find good condition blocks in Europe. So back to your question: E46 328 Euro car has cast iron sleeved aluminum block. M54B30 intermals will be a direct swap.
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
@@idokwatcher2062 Sorry, I made a mistake on my previous reply. M52TU engines all around the world have aluminum blocks with cast iron sleeves. Therefore M54B30 internals will be a direct fit for your engine and there's no need to worry about the condition of nikasil coating.
@user-ro8ur3gi3f
@user-ro8ur3gi3f 3 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 алоу
@acidaslt
@acidaslt 4 жыл бұрын
Did you manage it?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed a few things were off. The TPS sensor was operating backwards and reading wot at idle because even though the S50 uses the same sensor, it is wired differently. Repinning the connector got that sorted. Also, the O2 sensors were not heating up because they were right at the end of open headers. That was fixed by bolting the exhaust in place. With those sorted out the idle was stable enough to do the vacuum syncing of the ITBs. After that the idle was pretty nice and smooth but a little high at 1300 rpm. I suspect that's because the bypass needles allow more air through than the ecu is expecting and it reaches the limit of ICV adjustment. But I'll see where the idle settles once the engine is in the car and there's more load on alternator etc. At the moment I've painted the underside and the imside of the car and assembled the suspension. The car is heading to be painted and I plan to have it running and driving next summer. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqHSfGmfZ5aff6s
@boscovich11
@boscovich11 2 жыл бұрын
What ECU did u use ?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 2 жыл бұрын
The ECU is stock Siemens MS41 with a custom tune by pazi88. At some point I may swap into Speeduino for easier adjustability.
@boscovich11
@boscovich11 2 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 i have an audi b7 engine 2.0 tfsi i have the ecu,but im not sure if i can do the same thing as u did it.
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 2 жыл бұрын
@@boscovich11 Your ECU can be remapped by companies like APR, Unitronic an Revo but I don't know if it's accessible for everyone. The BMW ECU is modifiable because car enthusiasts have reverse engineered it. Software and information for remapping is available for cheap. The cons compared to an aftermarket ECU are that you need to turn off the engine to load in a new map and it's not that easy to find a tuner who knows how to work with these ECUs if you can't do it yourself. Also the adjustability is slightly more limited than in an aftermarket ECU.
@boscovich11
@boscovich11 2 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 thanks im going to find out hiw to do it.I wanna make a replica of a donkervoort,i have many things already,it rest differential,seats,lamps,tires and wheels! I have the exhaust and the engine! And hope hahaha!
@Dr.Rihi1980
@Dr.Rihi1980 3 жыл бұрын
какой толк от этого радиатора?))))
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
Чтобы двигатель оставался прохладным. Я использовал этот испытательный стенд не только для 10-секундного запуска. Я использовал его для проверки всего и синхронизации дроссельных заслонок, когда машина еще не была готова принять двигатель.
@Dr.Rihi1980
@Dr.Rihi1980 3 жыл бұрын
Antti Alajuuma каким образом происходит охлаждение?) я просто не понимаю) установка же не движется,нет потока воздуха через радиатор
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Rihi1980 Двигатель имел механический вентилятор за радиатором. Когда я установил двигатель в машину, я снял его и использовал только электровентилятор.
@Dr.Rihi1980
@Dr.Rihi1980 3 жыл бұрын
Antti Alajuuma я вижу,но с него нет толка и еще нет диффузора) ну да ладно) Спасибо за ответ!
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
Да, позже я добавил кожух вентилятора вокруг вентилятора.
@nassimnas7791
@nassimnas7791 3 жыл бұрын
Top tribie 🧡👍
@motorsport4311
@motorsport4311 2 жыл бұрын
I need this engine..can u sell it to malaysia.?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks but I'm not willing to sell the engine and I think the shipping costs from Finland to Malaysia would be astronomical. For the same price you can build same kind of engine.
@motorsport4311
@motorsport4311 2 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 thanks for reply sir..
@30oooo33
@30oooo33 3 жыл бұрын
+ music Scooter-fire))))
@MiguelSilva-es7dw
@MiguelSilva-es7dw 3 жыл бұрын
First start my ass....it would never start so beautifully in a first start
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
It honestly was the first start but before starting I built up the oil pressure and ran the fuel pump until I had fuel on all injectors and all the air out of the fuel lines. The ECU is the stock Siemens with a remap based on similar engine builds so it's not really a raw map but a pretty refined estimate of the final ECU map. Still I was pretty surprised at how beautifully it started. But the start wasn't without issues. The TPS operation in the ITBs is backwards compared to the stock throttle body so the ECU thought the throttle is wide open. That's why the revs start climbing and that's also why the engine would die if you touched the throttle. Another issue was the the intake temp sensor which had a wrong scale.
@truekera
@truekera 3 жыл бұрын
Тут от М50 только блок, если не дураки. Скорее это М52 с чугунным низом. Мозги, а значит и всё остальное - М52
@troy5698
@troy5698 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry my English, Country and city Welcome to Kazakhstan
@Schlipperschlopper
@Schlipperschlopper 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they even want to slow down all the gas pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. " Bundesabgasbespaßungsverbotsverordnung" in German.
@KLOTIK52
@KLOTIK52 3 жыл бұрын
Хороший бензногенератор
@conankusanagi
@conankusanagi 3 жыл бұрын
Can i dm you somehow?
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
I guess youtube disabled the dm feature but you can pm me in r3vlimited.com forum. My nick is Skarpa.
@user-ro8ur3gi3f
@user-ro8ur3gi3f 3 жыл бұрын
мотор сколка прадаёщ
@JuhaEerikki
@JuhaEerikki 4 жыл бұрын
Shmiedmann headers? Mikä vauhtis?? 😛
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 4 жыл бұрын
Pakosarja taisi tulla Kimsu motorspottilta, mutta Kiinassa tehty varmaan samalla pajalla. Lambdan paikat itse siirretty ja toiseen sarjaan lisätty jousto rajoittamaan lämpöelämisen aiheuttamia rasituksia. Vauhtis on toistaiseksi vakio kaksoismassa. Vaihtunee kevyempään kovaan pyörään seuraavassa vaiheessa samalla kun päivittelen nokkia ja puristussuhdetta. Tämä kokoonpano on tällainen budjettiversio, kun kaikkeen muuhunkin menee reippaasti rahaa, että saa auton ajoon.
@JuhaEerikki
@JuhaEerikki 4 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 juu totta kyllä.. Aattelin että olisi kevennetty kun kuulosti niin hyvin ottavan kierroksia 👍
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 4 жыл бұрын
@@JuhaEerikki Taitaa olla läppärunkojen vaikutusta nopeaan kaasuvasteeseen.
@JuhaEerikki
@JuhaEerikki 4 жыл бұрын
@@armogarage4968 itellä ei oo mitään kokemusta läppärungoista, omassa pulkassa vakio m50b25tu. Mutta eikö tossa sun koneessa ole ihan selvästi parempi kaasuvaste kuin vakio m50/m52/m54? Et en vaan kuvitellu? 😁
@e_b_a_n_a_t_o_r
@e_b_a_n_a_t_o_r 3 жыл бұрын
This e30 looks a bit strange😂😂😂
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
Ultralight for racing
@metkauturbomechanika
@metkauturbomechanika 3 жыл бұрын
M50
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 3 жыл бұрын
M52
@EinarDaSilva
@EinarDaSilva 2 жыл бұрын
Fake 2jz
@armogarage4968
@armogarage4968 2 жыл бұрын
2JZ is not the only straight six 24 valve engine in the world with ITBs. That's pretty much where the similarities end.
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