BMW F80 M3 CS - Brembo ///M M2C 2NH OEM BBK full DIY install

[@andrewthompson6893]

Just wanted to say I really appreciate you putting this video up because I'm about to do this swap on my M2.

[@tractioncontroldelete]

Great breakdown! Thanks for posting the weights too!

[@KiesMotorsports]

Great job 👍🏼👍🏼

[@db8gsr]

Kies Motorsports - much appreciated !!

[@m2comp369]

Brilliant video!! Was thinking of doing the same on my M2 Comp as well. However, after a little research on Forums - I now know why you 'butchered' the dust shields. Fronts are relatively straightforward but, rears require the removal of the emergency brake assembly and wheel bearings!

[@danielmacias578]

Great video!

[@Ally.MacMillan]

That is one clean car, the undersides are immaculate. Did you keep the brake pedal pressed in whilst undoing the brake lines, I see that some do and some don't.

[@db8gsr]

thanks ! - nothing was pressed on the brake pedal when the lines were disconnected. The motiv power bleeder did its job pushing all the old brake fluid out and air bubbles.

[@beastofackworth]

Heavy brake upgrade. I would go with the 6 pot calipers from the G80 M car and some decent 2 piece 380x36 discs. These are really OTT for an F8x car

[@db8gsr]

A 2 piece floating rotor would be the best option to save weight over 1 piece steel while keeping the same 400x36mm front and 380x30mm rear diameter. Ceramics are nice but costly

[@JohnnyLehti]

I did this upgrade on my M4 last summer but after driving two miles they went off again. The car just gor worse. The crazy weight of the discs destroys both comfort and handling compared to the stock brakes. Each front disc weighs 30 pounds! And this is the worst place to put more weight on. I went for ceramic brakes, which my car had from the factory and the difference is big! I removed 40 pounds on the discs alone compared to the comp steel discs.. The car feels great now, suspension works much better and the car feels light.

[@beastofackworth]

At a price that most people don't want to spend.

[@JohnnyLehti]

@@beastofackworth that is true. The question is why people change them and personally i think it's mostly for looks as you can use the stock blue calipers for track with a better set of discs in the same size and better pads, as proven on Nurburgring. Anyways, it looks good :).

[@mred1341]

my man you murdered the heat shields, that was a crappy job sorry, I feel for the tech doing warranty work on it. I used a cutting disc and filed the edges when I did my brembo gt brake kit

[@superfly092886]

Awesome video

[@number36420]

Looks great. I have a 2020 m4 ZCP. Love these calipers but the extra unsprung weight isn’t a good thing. Even if you don’t feel it, it is affecting the car in a negative way

[@mahdey]

Being able to brake 100 feet later is all the difference in the world. Obliterated the M3 and M4s on the track last week in my M2C.

[@chooks620]

Great video pretty sure this is the only vid on KZbin of this. But there was no point in sucking out the old fluid. You literally performed a flush with new fluid anyway

[@db8gsr]

Appreciate it! - old OEM brake fluid had to be at bare minimum because I switched to ATE race fluid. Eliminates some of that guessing much quicker whether old fluid is completely out

[@Ally.MacMillan]

It's good practice to remove as much of the old fluid as possible, no point pushing more old fluid though the system unnecessarily. 👍

[@Mad_Max_]

Great job, I have a question if you feel any more weight in the brakes, from what I read on the forum you weighed both sets and probably not a big difference in weight between them.....

[@db8gsr]

Thanks !! I really didn’t feel the additional weight going around corners. Even accelerating from a dead stop, it felt normal. Also the steering feel didn’t change either. Maybe slightly but not significant. The M2 CS steel brakes are essentially the same as well. Now that I have the M2 CS, I think back and that the M3 CS should’ve came with the same larger brakes from the factory and not the blue brakes.

[@Mad_Max_]

@@db8gsr Thank you very much for the kind answer ...😊

[@Tobulas1]

Hey, nice video. We few friends from M world have question for you. 1. Did you made some change dsc/abs coding? 2. Can you tell me what difference is from the stock brake system?

[@db8gsr]

Thanks! I did not make any additional coding. I view this install set of brakes just like any other BBK 6/4 upgrade i.e. Brembo GT, Stoptech, AP racing etc. I can tell you that off the bat, there's a significance pedal feel and stopping at just the slightest touch of the brake pedal compared to the stock 4/2 blue brakes. Very happy with this upgrade for a fraction of the price on aftermarket BBKs.

[@elpeladodelsamba]

Can you tell if now the stock judder and noise from 120-140mph stops are gone? Planing on doing just fronts ! That kind of known vibration from stock steel brakes is annoying

[@rickdoyle4981]

Oh I read somewhere else guys were saying the brake booster needed to be changed to the CCB booster the F8Xs use? Guess that's not the case?

[@db8gsr]

Not the case cause the rotors are steel

[@jonnellas7680]

That’s wrong rear dust shields you don’t need to trim it’s perfect fit the front dust shields yes you need to cut, just adding some info because I upgraded my brakes too

[@osb1love]

Good job , question can those m2 CP pads and router work with genuine M4 GTS calipers Which is the gold calipers

[@db8gsr]

yes it should. It's the same exact caliper except for the color

[@anthonyj1646]

Thanks for the video. Did you use oem pads? I’m consider DS2500 when I do this swap.

[@db8gsr]

yes OEM pads

[@tintman831]

Do you get a vibration with your spacers?

[@db8gsr]

Yes .. just slightly at certain speed. Barely noticeable

[@topchoiceauto9626]

When you bought the calipers did the brackets and pins come with it or you had to buy those separately?

[@db8gsr]

Yes - the brackets and pins were all included

[@giorgialeksandria6665]

can you tall me please, the rear Brake calipers` are from Porsche?

[@chooks620]

NO. These are BMW brakes from an M2Competition. But if you can’t find that of an m2 find that from an m3/4 equipped with carbon ceramic brake option… SAME EXACT PADS, rotors, calipers but they’re GOLD

[@iitstuann8201]

I understand the caliber is from the m2 CS but what pads and rotor are you using ? From what model bmw ? Thanks in advance

[@db8gsr]

It is also from the M2 C/CS oem rotor size and pads.

[@gholammalki2116]

@@db8gsrcan can you use 370mm rear or

[@Zainicus]

Why do you undo that pipe with a spanner? Is it necessary? Looks like its for the brake fluid that comes out.

[@db8gsr]

Zain Rj - if you’re referring to the brake lines, then yes.

[@rickdoyle4981]

So I have a 16 M4 with the stock 19s and base blue brakes. This will work just the same? Or will there be a problem with clearance? I bought a 2020 M2 Competition with 4,580 miles to sell at my dealership but I'm swapping brakes first lol

[@THELOF1]

I believe you will need 20" rims for it to fit. The blue ones on mine barely fit so I would think you need to go bigger to get these.

[@rickdoyle4981]

@@THELOF1 but he's putting them on a CS which has 19" front wheels

[@jason82180]

I just want to change out my stock non CCB rotors, is there anything special that needs to be done on the rear because of the ebrake?

[@db8gsr]

Just make sure the ebrake is disengaged/lever down position before removing the rear rotors

[@dryicedistrict]

Is the rear rotor on correct way? Great job?

[@lostcase55]

Where can I find those brakes? Thank you

[@understatedautobody]

Any coding necessary after install? If so how did the pedal feel before coding? Thanks

[@db8gsr]

i didn't get mine coded. Pedal feel from just the straight swap from the blue brakes to the 2NH was noticeable and bites quicker at the slightest tap.

[@understatedautobody]

@@db8gsr Thanks for the info. I’m doing this swap from the blue brakes to the Gold CCB calipers with the M2C steel rotors as soon as everything comes in.

[@neilprince2363]

where can i get the calipers . been searching it is like diamond and gold!! please show me the way, junkyard anywhere

[@db8gsr]

They usually popup on m3post or social media

[@rhdjonn]

Quick question about clearance what size wheels are you running ?

[@db8gsr]

they're the CS OEM wheels.

[@kenny0271552505]

Have you done any track days with the 4/2 stock brakes VS with the M2C brakes? Any difference in stopping power? And this does mean when it comes to swapping out pads you’ll have to remove the whole caliper for the pads to slide out. Whereas on the stock m3/4 brakes you just pop the pins and slide the pads out the back correct?

[@db8gsr]

yes that's correct. Stock blue brake pads is held by a retaining pin and the pads will just slide back up. For the M2c 2nh brakes, you'll have to remove the caliper bolts inorder for the pads to come out. Stock 2nh brake setup has a noticeable bite compared to the blue brakes.

[@KimboDogg07]

Umm doesn’t the F80 already come with the big brakes kit?

[@chooks620]

Yes AND No the F80 came with these brakes before the M2C was even out BUT to get these brakes on the m3/4 you needed to order the carbon ceramic option

[@chooks620]

Which is why these are a direct fit on this cars with no modding necessary. He only cut the heatshields because he did not order the Carbon ceramic F80 backing plates. But he didn’t need to because cutting saved him a lot of money

[@KimboDogg07]

@@chooks620 Ahh I apologize, I must not have watched the full video, those do look like the ceramic brake calipers, just on my M3C they are gold. I honestly thought u was upgrading to the BBK. You added the calipers but not the rotors it appears. I think the full kit is upwards of 10k+, hell to da nana naaa… Look spec that from factory only, aftermarket is down payment on a house!!!

[@chooks620]

@@KimboDogg07 yeah the only difference between the m2 and your m3c equipped with the CCB option is just the color. And yeah the CCB option was 14k to order so that’s why you have a rare gem🙏🏾

[@philippkennethzimmermann9885]

Can you feel the additional weight in the steering?

[@db8gsr]

Didn't feel any difference. The e-steering calibrates and appears to suppress the added weight. Perhaps would be more prominent on a hydraulic steering.

[@philippkennethzimmermann9885]

db8gsr Thanks!

[@4Romie]

Do you know if the rear will fit on a e92 BMW?

[@db8gsr]

if it's an E92 M3 - yes the OEM blue brakes is a direct bolt on for the rear rotors and calipers check this out: www.tdott.me/2020/04/project-f8x-m4-brakes-on-e92-m3.html

[@marioenriqueramos1776]

What are you going to do with the old set up?

[@db8gsr]

Mario Enrique Ramos - already sold it. This one appears to bite much harder at the slightest brake touch.

[@ecliffg]

Where did you find the torque specs for all the bolts?

[@db8gsr]

Just do a quick search on m3post .. should come up

[@raulandrade2941]

Is that a after market bracket on the calipers or no ?

[@db8gsr]

Raul Andrade - no.. it’s part of the OEM 2nh kit

[@raulandrade2941]

db8gsr so the oem m2c caliper brackets for direct on the f80 m3 ?

[@db8gsr]

Raul Andrade - yes direct bolt on

[@ryansullivan2928]

Do you have the part number for the rotors?

[@db8gsr]

Front Left 400X36 - 34118072017 Front Right 400X36 - 34118072018 Rear Left 380X28 - 34118072019 Rear Right 380X28 - 34118072020

[@u.s.m.c13]

butchered those shields, also rusted rotors out the box

[@jirapatrodbunjob8146]

Fit bmw f32 ?

[@db8gsr]

unfortunately, it will not

[@jirapatrodbunjob8146]

@@db8gsr thank you

[@johnnyjohnz1992]

Part numbers lol

[@NTG2396]

Do you have any idea if this brake kit can kit an E92 335I?

[@db8gsr]

The blue brakes may fit if you follow the E92 M3 fitting. There's a DIY floating around for the E92 M3.

[@CozyGomez]

Good job 👏🏼