BMW i4 M50 vs. BMW M3 | Can the Electric i4 Outperform the M3? | Price, 0-60, Range & More

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@edmundscars
@edmundscars 2 жыл бұрын
Are you happy with the way M performance is shifting into the electric space? Tell us what you’d do differently.
@stepheno.2730
@stepheno.2730 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Electric is just better to drive and own in every way. You can’t beat the feel and power delivery.
@hotrod182
@hotrod182 2 жыл бұрын
When you said you think something closer to an M performing EV was coming out soon, are you talking about a BMW? pure EV, in this same size class? We already know about the high performance Plug Ins coming out, and the ix M60. I would cancel my i4 order for a faster version with 100 more HP. I want something that traps 130mph and at least keeps up with the M5C.
@stepheno.2730
@stepheno.2730 2 жыл бұрын
@@hotrod182 I’m hoping they can come out with something that can trap over 150 and surpass my plaid
@hotrod182
@hotrod182 2 жыл бұрын
@@stepheno.2730 Would you move back to a BMW then? But yes, would be fun. I was doing 40-70mph acceleration runs in the Plaid the other week, posted it on my KZbin channel.
@stepheno.2730
@stepheno.2730 2 жыл бұрын
@@hotrod182 it’s hard to say for sure. Initially, The answer would be an easy, yes but now, I have come to love my plaid.
@LizardMane
@LizardMane 2 жыл бұрын
Maaaan this car is more than enough for the average person it's close to the m3 at half the price in everything and obviously no money for gas. This car is absolutely brilliant
@bleuebloom
@bleuebloom Жыл бұрын
$77k is not half of $108k bro
@christianolsen9781
@christianolsen9781 Жыл бұрын
In DK its like 650k for i4 M50 and 1,6-1,7m for M3
@PekkaJaakkola-m8x
@PekkaJaakkola-m8x 10 ай бұрын
@@christianolsen9781 In Finland >71640€ vs. >146580€ because tax for EV's is 0%
@astroplutonium
@astroplutonium 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the M50 because the insurance is half, the car price is half and the daily usage is half while everything else is within 90% of the dynamics and performance of a real M. Not a real M but still a much better choice than a fossil burner that stays half of the year in the garage... Not everyone needs loud pipe noise and ridiculous grip and i think BMW is hitting a good market share with what they did with the M50. No wonder delivery times are 12 months+ now...
@hardywoodaway9912
@hardywoodaway9912 2 жыл бұрын
fossil burners feel so outdated in everyday life.
@Biotorn
@Biotorn 2 жыл бұрын
Same! Can’t wait to get mine! Getting the 2023 version this year ”i hope” so they say
@LizardMane
@LizardMane 2 жыл бұрын
I am torn between this and the new dark horse
@soennecken8
@soennecken8 4 ай бұрын
Your electric M is half a second quicker to 100 km/h than the previous generation M3. It is also quicker to 60 km/h than the current M3. And you can unleash this performance every day without asking yourself how much earlier you will need an engine rebuild. The only parts which will wear out more quickly are the tyres (and possibly to some extent the reduction gear/differential).
@x0x0xxxx68
@x0x0xxxx68 Ай бұрын
Also my arguement for electric car with many HP. (Aside from the environmental asbect) it‘s maintanance is just way cheaper
@textm2476
@textm2476 2 жыл бұрын
I saw an I4 m50 parked up here in the UK, had no idea of what it was and had never even heard of them. It looked absolutely beautiful, but it was so bizarre when it silently pulled away.
@rico831
@rico831 2 жыл бұрын
beautiful video - i've never owned an M but this I4 M50 will be the closest I'll get. I know it's not a real M but it will make me smile regardless.
@jordansmith6171
@jordansmith6171 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why people are saying its not a real M when the M division is solely responsible for this release? Are we talking about pure race spec version? Thats the only thing I can think of? If that is the case, I don't think anyone would want a race spec version or people will get nauseous every time they ride one. 3 second flat from 0-60 race spec? Hmmm.
@solidsnake7167
@solidsnake7167 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordansmith6171 because M in a traditional sense is something you can take to track with. Electric fans get little boners over traffic light launch and quick straight line stuff but that is all they will be good for. They will forever get smoked by ice vehicles on a real track and not near as fun to drive. The M division migrating to electric is no different than anyone else. If they aren’t doing it begrudgingly, then they’re doing it to follow the money or both. It’s become federal regular to transition. They have to. You think Ferrari is enthusiastic to phase out their beautiful sounding engines within 10yrs, of course not, but manufacturers are being heavily incentivized for the trouble. So you can have a bunch of a-holes that think they’re saving the environment or something, but have no problem buying thousands of shares of crypto. What a world!
@alextasarov1341
@alextasarov1341 2 жыл бұрын
@@jordansmith6171 the M is supposed to represent Motorsport. They use to be designed for track use and were not as comfortable on the street. They were loved for their driving experience and feedback. Comfort was not as important. But BMW has migrated the M from Motorsport to just mean sport. They have expanded their audience from driving enthusiasts to the general public. The average person doesn’t want a harsh DCT aggressively shifts gears, the average person wants a smooth car that they can use to get groceries. They have watered down the meaning of the “M” badge. When people say it’s not a real “M” they mean it’s not really Motorsport focused, it doesn’t offer the most engaging and driver focused experience. There is nothing wrong with wanting a sports car that is comfortable on the street. They have models for that (Like this m50). But the M cars were supposed to be more agressive and fun. Now it is only the CS GTS that meet the same standards of the old M cars. That is all, have a nice day.
@chrisginoc
@chrisginoc 2 жыл бұрын
​@@jordansmith6171 Yeah what do people want an m3 electric that goes 0-60 in 2.8 seconds? A lot of the reactions are coming from ICE fans.
@Penguin-kr9do
@Penguin-kr9do 2 жыл бұрын
@@solidsnake7167 People like you would've defended horses and carriages if you had been born 100 years earlier. "Forever smoked by ice vehicles"? I want to know what you're smoking to say that? EVs already demolish ICE cars in a straight line, and while they still have a ways to go with cornering and weight, they are not at all far off. They're already not being "smoked" by ICE vehicles. "Fun to drive" is purely subjective, so I won't even comment on that. Ultimately, you want to cling on to a dying technology, go right ahead. If you want to keep pretending that it's superior despite every actual statistic and data point saying otherwise, I can't stop you.
@bmw3842
@bmw3842 Жыл бұрын
Nice car .I just bought a BMW i4 M550.Picked it up yesterday . I love it .
@johnelegant1727
@johnelegant1727 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant review; honest, fair and points out why it is roughly $25K less than the M3, yet the conclusion is that this is still an excellent BMW. What a fun car for 98% of us (in fact more capable than any of us will ever use nor need). Fine with me that later on there will most likely be a true M i40, but in the interim, I will, and almost every one of us will love this car, e.g., driving it as a M-like great sports sedan right now.
@richardalberg
@richardalberg Жыл бұрын
I get mine on the 16th and this review makes me think I have made the right choice. I started with a Tesla M3P - which was brilliant, although build quality frustrated me. I bought a Taycan Turbo which is great in all respects other than being too wide (for London streets). I think the i4 M50 will offer the performance and build quality whilst being more practical when on a narrow road with a 4x4 coming in the other direction.
@flashsushi1843
@flashsushi1843 2 жыл бұрын
Finally. A short but good review / comparo that acknowledges the lack of torque vectoring on the i4.
@theRappinSpree
@theRappinSpree 2 жыл бұрын
Turn off traction control in the i4 the get full power when turning
@Benslappz95
@Benslappz95 11 ай бұрын
It dosn’t help. Still limits power unless it’s slippery surface like rain or snow. Even in snow it limits it’s power in a straight line with dsc off
@Casshern_Sin
@Casshern_Sin Жыл бұрын
So I've watched a lot of i4 vs whatever and the common complaint is that it feels heavy, it feels slow on corners and doesn't feel agile... I've come to the conclusion that the basis for comparison is always with some of the best handling cars out there. The i4 will still feel excellent to drive to the average driver.
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 2 ай бұрын
My i4 M50 corners better than the Audi S5 Cabriolet it replaced.
@davesax11
@davesax11 Жыл бұрын
The M50 is M enough for me. Excellent driver a few months in. EV brake regeneration is actually an improvement on downshifting a manual. Otherwise, any real driver needs a manual for a true "M" experience. Paddle shifters don't count.
@flaggrad
@flaggrad 2 жыл бұрын
Full disclosure I own a g80 m3 comp. Bmw has i4 m50s at the autocross portion of the ultimate drive events. Few observations: it’s not an M car period. It’s fast enough in a straight line but other than that it falls apart quickly. The handling is just not there, the front and back ends of the car seem to be fighting each other, it just doesn’t feel cohesive. Maybe it was the setting they made us drive in too, “b” which is max regen, it might unsettle the car as you come off the brakes (or keep more weight on the front when you want to transfer it rearward). Coming out of a few corners push the accelerator and nothing happens, had to be electronics as the car obviously has instant torque. They are just heavy 5000 plus lbs and no amount of low center of gravity counters that. One other thing typically (in gas powered cars) at the ultimate drives you did 3 laps twice, this time it was 2 laps 3 times which obviously takes a lot longer to get people in and out of cars three times instead of 2. I’m guessing the cars were not capable of running 3 laps in a row constantly. They seem like great cruisers and 90 percent of customers will probably be very happy, but as an alternative to an m3/4 and I cannot agree with that.
@abdulgill5013
@abdulgill5013 2 жыл бұрын
True, that’s why BMW made this car for electric customers/buyers out there. I don’t think the “M” is their full focus because then again they already have an M3 and M4 designed for these purposes. That would honestly be a little more pointless to make another “M” based car that is electric since the starting price of the i4 in general is about 55k. Sure there’s an M performance package, but mainly for those who just want an electric BMW “M” or an electric sports sedan. In other means the i4 is not really a true “M” car but however this is one of BMW’s first few vehicles in the electric market.
@Jdnicks00
@Jdnicks00 2 жыл бұрын
Sure, i is not M.
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't drive in "B" mode in that use case.
@rcsenior8082
@rcsenior8082 2 жыл бұрын
I've ordered my M50 to be a capable daily performance car with towbar, hatch and the ability to charge at home by soplar panels. That's why I have never considered the M50 as an M-car, it's an M like an Audi S vehicle and I selected the M50 compared to 440i/440d xDrive and Audi S4 Avant. I hope that there's an i4M based on the iX M60 powertrain or higher when it's time to replace my M50 in 2024. ;)
@Beamer_i4_M50
@Beamer_i4_M50 2 жыл бұрын
Hey. I had the same in mind. I ordered the M50. It is a M Performance Model. Not a real M. And that’s it. As you say - a very capable daily driver with insane quickness and the running costs of my wife’s Toyota Yaris hybrid.
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
I owned many BMWs, Porsches, Lambo, Aston Martin, Maserati, and now Model X and Model 3. Never gas again. Love the low or no maintenance except for tires. I charge at home with my solar/powerwall battery. Save $400/month on gas and home electricity. No petrochemical odors or oil Filters in land fills. Just think how gas cars will DEPRECIATE in the future as more EV’s. I can not control healthcare costs but can control energy costs!
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
I still own a Porsche Panamera 4S with the Tesla’s but seems underpowered as no torque from 0 rpm like EV’s. There is no waiting for power. Instant torque makes the car feel lighter and faster.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
@@Firestorm637 I can undestand if you keep your 1972 Porsche 911 for sentimental reasons and to show it on the local oldtimer car show. But why keep a Panamera?
@aynrandfan7454
@aynrandfan7454 2 жыл бұрын
lol ya same i switched from an M3 to an iX last week...
@jad4ca
@jad4ca Жыл бұрын
Let’s not bring up the landfills when talking about EV vs ICE if you’re attempting to win on some level of virtue… we could also talk about lithium mining. EV’s are pretty much one-trick ponies when it comes to performance and are otherwise pretty dull. If you like them, great, but let’s not pretend they are superior to ICE vehicles in every way. They’re just not.
@adamf.8564
@adamf.8564 Жыл бұрын
I have driven M3-M4-M5s and Tesla's as well. Both the M3 and the M50 are phenomenal cars. The M3 and M4 well, need I say more? NO! So, the M50 with 536Hp is just insane! It is, however, a car on its own segment. it is Insane as far as built quality; comfort sportiness and aesthetics goes. BMW just delivers in so many different ways, Tesla just does not! Liking or disliking the BIG grill in the front is very subjective. Tesla looks like an egg. Does not mean it's better looking. so there it is very subjective as far as looks go.
@esaedvik
@esaedvik 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to know the longer term upkeep cost difference.
@ryanlarbi8157
@ryanlarbi8157 2 жыл бұрын
Practically almost zero maintenance on an EV
@harrys2331
@harrys2331 2 жыл бұрын
@@ryanlarbi8157 Right tires brakes every 60 or so and you good. Batteries still a concern for me personally however this vehicle would last quite a while before you get that kind of trouble, maybe 120k miles.
@ryanlarbi8157
@ryanlarbi8157 2 жыл бұрын
@@harrys2331 battery packs on the teslas are lasting allot longer than anticipated. Electric motors can last millions of miles with zero service
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear Жыл бұрын
No oil changes in the EV, but the brakes may be a dice roll-- regenerative braking eases the workload on the friction brakes, but we are still talking about a 4600-5000 pound car, so those brake pads are really going to feel it if you leadfoot the left pedal a lot.
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 2 ай бұрын
@@BogeyTheBear That's why it makes a lot of sense to buy the BMW service plan for this car; pays for itself with the brake replacement. The only issue is replacing the expensive tires.
@kartikk127
@kartikk127 2 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing a range test for the rwd model soon?
@jordansmith6171
@jordansmith6171 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please comment on how you guys got 268 miles on full charge with M50? My CA at BMW mentioned it was alot lower from EPA range of 227 by at least 20 miles (closer to 200) miles on full charge with the 20 inch wheels. Thanks.!
@jonpetter8921
@jonpetter8921 2 жыл бұрын
That s because EPA is a joke. Use WLTP range, more close to the reality.
@brandonl8039
@brandonl8039 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonpetter8921 WLTP range tends to be even more overly optimistic than EPA range.
@jonpetter8921
@jonpetter8921 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonl8039 WLTP used to be more accurate than EPA on some cars. EPA always underestimate cars like Taycan, E tron, EQS etc.. And mystically Tesla EPA range has been way overestimated .........
@6SpeedTA95
@6SpeedTA95 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonpetter8921 Because MFGs test themselves and submit results to the EPA. EPA only tests very VERY few cars themselves. Tesla lies, the others try to do it right?
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonpetter8921 Nonsense. 🤣🤣😂😂Only when you turtle behind a truck @ 90.
@aneebaba06
@aneebaba06 2 жыл бұрын
Have one coming this summer in Metallic Portimao Blue with cognac interior and carbon fiber trim.
@budluo
@budluo 2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for i4 and had been reading about it for a while. Honestly if it had come out in mid 2021 I would have ordered it. Tired of waiting so I ordered a Tesla Model Y (and ends up still waiting for the delivery). I would definitely come back to check out their second generation of EVs. I am not a car guy, just that I have been driving a Bimmer for a while and like it.
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla build quality is horrible. Model 3 and Y are very generic and kinda ugly.
@Dark_Vader888
@Dark_Vader888 2 жыл бұрын
The Tesla is a good choice, great quality versus the ugly BMW. The Hyundai Iomic 5 is also superior to this ugly half baked effort by BMW.
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dark_Vader888 salty cheap Hyundai fanboy lol 😂😂
@davegenet
@davegenet 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I had an I4 on order. BMW had no idea when I’d actually get it so canceled. I’ll keep my current wheels fir a while longer.
@redvenomweb
@redvenomweb 28 күн бұрын
Surprising that you compared the M50 to the much-more-expensive M3 Competition xDrive, and not the normal M3 sedan that's almost the same price as the M50.
@Origen17
@Origen17 2 жыл бұрын
Stop with the grill scoffs... it's fabulously retro.
@ramonlima8100
@ramonlima8100 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, man!!
@kingkontinuum
@kingkontinuum 2 жыл бұрын
Man really want both of these cars, to be honest.
@chendaddy
@chendaddy 18 күн бұрын
The i4 M50 is no M-car, but at least it's closer to an M-car than the Mustang Mach-E is to a Mustang. They're both still good cars though, and at least one of them is pretty fun for an EV.
@DouglasCrabb
@DouglasCrabb 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting.... The seats in the M3 Comp are top of the line. Then they compare to the entry seat in the M50. Odd.
@ChuckTung
@ChuckTung 2 жыл бұрын
"more of a diet M." Yeah, like an all-you-can-eat diet. You labeled a 5000lb car a "diet car"?
@RyanZumMallen
@RyanZumMallen 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, nice catch! I meant diet as in less performance, not as in lightweight.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
Its a bit chubby all around. Yes...
@lotusjp
@lotusjp Ай бұрын
Also my friend what you neglected to mention and I've been thinking about this your summation at the end for the price that you quoted here which is around $90,000 rounded off I can buy a mint condition upgraded main bearings and totally checked out M3 2011 let's say V8 engine which is slightly slower stock which is not hard to modify to be faster or just as fast as the i-4 , so that means daily driver is the i-4 61,000 and then the difference left over is to get the V8 M3 2011 around and have fun and have the real m not be as badged out BMW to be an M!‼️‼️‼️
@GordonGreenCincinnati
@GordonGreenCincinnati Жыл бұрын
I think you guys compared this to the wrong BMW. The M440i would be the right car
@liamporter1137
@liamporter1137 Жыл бұрын
Great review.
@zcmdzpp127
@zcmdzpp127 2 жыл бұрын
Beaver teeth grill is awesome
@roguedogx
@roguedogx 2 жыл бұрын
17:53 translation "I both love and hate embargoes right now" Lol
@mcwendel8066
@mcwendel8066 2 жыл бұрын
No U-drag?? Nice video!
@ZorrillaJimenez
@ZorrillaJimenez 2 жыл бұрын
Time for a U-Drag race!
@PekkaJaakkola-m8x
@PekkaJaakkola-m8x 10 ай бұрын
There are better M seats available for M50 (but not as sporty as in M3). Don't know why you had standard sport seats in this car?
@rodluizetto
@rodluizetto 2 жыл бұрын
That I4 need some alignment on the front bumper 😂. The gap with the hood on the right side looks horrible. Did you guys crash it? 😅
@kazz1896
@kazz1896 2 жыл бұрын
They probably didn't close it all the way! Ive made that mistake once.
@gaivoron
@gaivoron 2 жыл бұрын
Oooooohhhh fancy... BMW is getting back to 90s door handle style. Invocation at its peak.
@trevorjohnson16
@trevorjohnson16 Жыл бұрын
Its not supposed to be an "M" it is an M Performance"...and quite a good one, at that...
@jcl4303
@jcl4303 2 жыл бұрын
Did they review the same steering wheel two times differently?
@momlisa100
@momlisa100 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they should call it an ME or mE, a me, that might be cool 😎
@StarryTemplar
@StarryTemplar Жыл бұрын
Everyone should just use CLIMATE CONTROL VOICE CONTROL. Easy and simple.
@wagdog1
@wagdog1 2 жыл бұрын
Did they option it with the M Sport seats? Doesn’t look like it.
@PekkaJaakkola-m8x
@PekkaJaakkola-m8x 10 ай бұрын
No they didn't
@gaivoron
@gaivoron 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha omg I couldn't resist... All this carbon amounts to a feather weight 3900lbs?
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Carbon is heavy. Everybody knows that. Or at least german ingenuity...
@IReahpZz
@IReahpZz 2 жыл бұрын
So close yet so different. BMW needs to crank up the power and offer an m60 or ev M to really put the nail in the coffin for the model 3.they really are close !
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 2 жыл бұрын
This BMW already beat Model 3 in a drag race. Watch CarWow
@chriskarsseboom2200
@chriskarsseboom2200 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahs it’s faster easier model 3
@IReahpZz
@IReahpZz 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriskarsseboom2200 not quicker less range less dynamic.they still have a bit to go but they are so close. Most m3p fo 11.5 in the quarter and 0-60 in 3.1-3.3 still a good bit quicker and cheaper.
@IReahpZz
@IReahpZz 2 жыл бұрын
@@hassanger8128 I don't watch them they have the world's slowest pass on a model 3 performance 😂 took my car to a slow track on 80 percent and ran 11.5 on a 2018 model which is slower than a new perf..... BMW needs a little more oomph and range
@chriskarsseboom2200
@chriskarsseboom2200 2 жыл бұрын
@@IReahpZz yes it is faster they did a drag race in car wow. Go check it out
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 2 жыл бұрын
There was no mention of required maintenance. BMW ///M cars are famous for extensive maintenance, especially as the miles add up.
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 2 ай бұрын
EVs don't really require any maintenance.
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 2 ай бұрын
@@JustMe99999 BMW dealers make 60% of their profits from service. I'd like to see what the maintenance schedule on these looks like.
@JustMe99999
@JustMe99999 2 ай бұрын
@@aussie2uGA I own one. The only thing you really need are tire rotations. EVs don't really need regular service like ICE cars. However, the brakes and tires will wear quicker since the car is so heavy, so there is that. The lack of required maintenance for EVs is why a lot of dealers are reluctant to sell them. However, my BMW salesman seemed more than happy to sell me a $76k car.
@dunphyjp
@dunphyjp 2 жыл бұрын
I4 standard is 19” wheels… 20’s are optional
@EagleWolfSparrow
@EagleWolfSparrow 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I dunno why people still pressing button for Climate control. In Lexus or I believe BMW after 2017 ....they should all be Voice control.... For example 2017 Lexus, you just say "70 degree" and your Temperture will be set to 70 ...just that simple...
@KallouWhatElse
@KallouWhatElse 2 жыл бұрын
Not everyone gets tired of pressing a button...
@EagleWolfSparrow
@EagleWolfSparrow 2 жыл бұрын
@@KallouWhatElse yes, but I'm just saying would be safer using voice command, other than pressing that weird screen climate control lol
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
70 degrees? I don't want to cook my cochones! 20 degrees is ok! 🤣😂
@EagleWolfSparrow
@EagleWolfSparrow 2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangpreier9160 lol I mean 70 F which is equals 21 Celcius lol
@turboman2019
@turboman2019 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't have an "engine" but does have a "motor",its not propelled by "inertia"...
@BogeyTheBear
@BogeyTheBear 7 ай бұрын
Correct. An engine generates energy, a motor provides motive power. Oftentimes an internal combustion engine serves as the drive motor as well, but it's not in every application. A diesel-electric locomotive, for example, has a diesel engine to power a generator and an electric motor to move the train.
@karlInSanDiego
@karlInSanDiego Жыл бұрын
How the hell did the new M3 Competition bloat to 4000 lbs? Someone lost their design brief and rationalized it vs. others.
@bigpoppa1992
@bigpoppa1992 2 жыл бұрын
😆108k for a m3? No thank you ill take the m5.
@m3awd598
@m3awd598 2 жыл бұрын
Press car comes loaded. The carbon ceramic brakes & carbon buckets are $12k alone. The frozen paint is like $3.5k. You can get a nicely spec'd M3 xDrive under $90k.
@chriskarsseboom2200
@chriskarsseboom2200 2 жыл бұрын
You can get it for 78 k base
@gwmiramontes
@gwmiramontes Жыл бұрын
I hate to say it.. but you are talking apples to oranges.. the car is 1K lbs heavier and still has impressive numbers.. IMHO, BMW is limiting what you can do with the car’s power.. I suspect its all about protecting drivers from getting into accidents with all the power that electric motors produce.. If BMW gave you all the power that EV motors produce, you would see a lot of accidents and that would cause many problems for BMW…
@sergiomgc
@sergiomgc 2 жыл бұрын
Why not compare the i4 M50 with the Model 3 Perf?
@PekkaJaakkola-m8x
@PekkaJaakkola-m8x 10 ай бұрын
Because in this video they are comparing two BMW's, read the topic sergei!
@loganmoy5093
@loganmoy5093 2 жыл бұрын
No drag race? Deeply disappointed...
@amh313
@amh313 2 жыл бұрын
Even though no one wants to say it ever on a video, because it's obvious or not seen relevant for some reason, the ONLY reason for i4 to kick the M3 ass is the no direct pollution to the noses of the city people. Nothing else matters. If no pollution, the choice would be M3.
@Speedracer155
@Speedracer155 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody wants a true EV M3! Until the car can be 1000 pounds light don’t even try
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
Germans buy everything. Including IPace and Mercedes. Why not BMW?
@JMD535
@JMD535 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone always chiming abt the steering in BMWs,...yet,...the car goes where the driver wants it to. "I can tell when I turn Left,...I can tell when I turn Right"! Hmm,...the driver can 'feel the rubber on the road'. These reviews,....Wow! Just drive fellas,...just drive. Dude,...the i4 M50 will smoke the draws off an M340! It's an "i4 M50",....not an M3. It is BMWs very first e-car to officially where an "M" designated model badge! Suck it up!
@michaelv6870
@michaelv6870 Жыл бұрын
Close enough performance wise to let the price difference make the decision. Plus, the I4 is way prettier.
@Frosticus453
@Frosticus453 2 жыл бұрын
Diet M? is the diet cheetos? it is a land yatch, but it is still pretty cool.
@danbernstein4694
@danbernstein4694 2 жыл бұрын
No, since it weighs FIVE THOUSAND POUNDS.
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
New EV revolution will really accelerate EV development. Prices will come down. EV vs ICE are competitive in msrp already
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
" Prices will come down" No. That will not happen. Demand is too high. At least until 2028. And at that time nobody will talk about price differences anymore. Why 2028? Thats the year where more EVs than fossils are on the road.
@xliu37
@xliu37 2 жыл бұрын
Carbon carbon carbon… all those appearance pkg comes in 3900 lb, for a 3ser..
@BalrogSlayer666
@BalrogSlayer666 2 жыл бұрын
hosts sounds like they are rushing a homework for a class they hate, no passion. lame
@amigatommy7
@amigatommy7 2 жыл бұрын
An ok car. Rather have better driving character.
@chieunguyen5805
@chieunguyen5805 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong comparison ! $20,000 difference for Good sake. Tesla model 3 is still affordable to many middle-class people not the BMW !
@roarbahamut9866
@roarbahamut9866 2 жыл бұрын
Always buy German cars used. They are waaay to expensive brand new and lose too much value.
@crtmojo2705
@crtmojo2705 2 жыл бұрын
Can we get an EV without the traction control and all power options? RWD smoke the tires it’s up to the driver to control. Ya know like the v8 s of the day.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
Sure. You can build it yourself. EV West has the perfect kits for you.
@jrww303
@jrww303 8 ай бұрын
Not an M car, just marketing
@phathutshedzotshikosi5289
@phathutshedzotshikosi5289 2 жыл бұрын
If Tesla doesn't hurry up bringing 3/y to markets that don't have Teslas yet, BMW will be doing the damage
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣😂😂Thats a good one! Thx for the laugh!
@roarbahamut9866
@roarbahamut9866 2 жыл бұрын
Not rlly. The price alone for a brand new German car, would lead most people to just order a Model 3. I hate Tesla (they do a lot of sh*tty things) but they dominate the EV market and that wont change any time soon.
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
Gas cars starting to seem like overpriced for old tech.
@Firestorm637
@Firestorm637 2 жыл бұрын
Look what EV’s have accomplished in a short time period vs 100 years of gas cars. Maybe we will have flying EV’s soon
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
Seem? My Model Y costs me less than a measly VW Golf TSI.
@roarbahamut9866
@roarbahamut9866 2 жыл бұрын
@@Firestorm637 People cant even handle normal cars, if they were flying, people would be dying left and right lol
@roarbahamut9866
@roarbahamut9866 2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Whats the brag here? Driving a car from one of the shittiest companies in the whole industry when it comes to helping their customers and over all service? LOL
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
@@roarbahamut9866 I have ditched my VWs in 2019 when i switched from fossil to sustainable energy. Why should i brag about VW?
@kingprone7846
@kingprone7846 2 жыл бұрын
7:52 same in teslas.
@xliu37
@xliu37 2 жыл бұрын
M badge stands for Marketing
@LizardMane
@LizardMane 2 жыл бұрын
I wish the i4m50 was lighter😭
@BonanzaPilot
@BonanzaPilot 2 жыл бұрын
Nuts you can get the EV 30k cheaper
@TheFunkyair
@TheFunkyair 2 жыл бұрын
M340i is the king
@k4scout
@k4scout 2 жыл бұрын
U Drags
@brianlmosley
@brianlmosley 2 жыл бұрын
This gens bmw m3 only has a face that its great great great great grandpa apreciates ! haah
@nathanielordonez2257
@nathanielordonez2257 2 жыл бұрын
Petrol 💪🏼>electric 🤮🤮🤮
@antoinepageau8336
@antoinepageau8336 2 жыл бұрын
Good job not bringing up other brands. That said, I think a Tesla M3 performance vs i4 M50 review would be interesting. I suspect Tesla is closer to an M replacement than BMW is.
@RevItRalph
@RevItRalph 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of Videos... The M3P is slightly quicker 0-60 and at the 1/4 but right after that point the M50 is already catching up and pulls up top. Most people aren't drag racing their EV it'll be from a roll race where it matters. The M3P sucks ass anyways in a roll race vs your M3LR.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
@@RevItRalph Its also faster on the Nürburgring. Or do you want to tell me that has no curves?
@odiesback
@odiesback Жыл бұрын
Rule for the ignorant: if the badge has more than one digit after the M , it is NOT a full M car… full M has only one numerical digit after the letter M … EVs are far from being a performance car… other than 0-60
@ModelleisenbahnTV
@ModelleisenbahnTV 2 жыл бұрын
These two compared I would take the Tesla Model 3 Performance 😁
@carlfichtner8148
@carlfichtner8148 2 жыл бұрын
Why ????? Speed limit is 55mph....
@esaedvik
@esaedvik 2 жыл бұрын
Really? Wow that's low.
@SniffBackBetter
@SniffBackBetter 2 жыл бұрын
If you're one of those people who thinks that this forced transition to EVs is about helping the environment, and that in a few decades private car ownership and driving will just be pretty much as it is now except that everybody will be driving an EV instead of a diesel or petrol car, you're in for a very nasty shock within the next 5-8 years. The forced transition to EVs has nothing to do with helping the environment whatsoever, that's just used as a smokescreen to dupe and manipulate the well-intentioned masses into going along with the forced obsolescence of ICE cars. The EV obsession exists for two reasons and two reasons only: 1. EVs are far easier and cheaper to fully automate than ICE cars due to their extensive use of drive-by-wire coontrols and their inherent ability to cope with the large power requirements of automation. 2. Electricity is far easier for the state to have total and immediate control over than is the supply of a fuel such as petrol, diesel or hydrogen. This guy gives a great explanation of why the environmental argument makes no sense: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qarXiH94aZKKY68
@phillyphil1513
@phillyphil1513 2 жыл бұрын
#MLITE
@ssamcobalt4956
@ssamcobalt4956 2 жыл бұрын
Manual
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
Manual climate controls?
@ssamcobalt4956
@ssamcobalt4956 2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangpreier9160 manual windshield wipers
@roarbahamut9866
@roarbahamut9866 2 жыл бұрын
My man wants a manual EV LOL
@ssamcobalt4956
@ssamcobalt4956 2 жыл бұрын
@@roarbahamut9866 you don't have a man
@jefff6884
@jefff6884 2 жыл бұрын
i4 is slower than the Hummer Ev and the M3 barely beats it. Tough.
@hassanger8128
@hassanger8128 2 жыл бұрын
It is not slower at all. i4 beats Model 3 Performance and Rivian RT in a drag race. BMW is always underratting its cars numbers.
@esaedvik
@esaedvik 2 жыл бұрын
@@hassanger8128 Imagine saying a German luxury performance sedan beats a grocery cart and a pickup truck in a drag race :D (but you are right, Hummer EV definitely isn't faster than the i4 M50). I4 M50 barely beats a Model 3 Performance though and loses a rolling start 1/4 mile.
@Speedracer155
@Speedracer155 2 жыл бұрын
My E46 M3 weighted 3,000 and cost 💲 50,000 half of this new car
@peterhammer4644
@peterhammer4644 2 жыл бұрын
how much did your house cost 20 years ago? In our country prices have doubled in 20 years. Its called inflation.
@JoiceVaderd
@JoiceVaderd 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterhammer4644 Yep! The new Z is expected to start at $40k. In 2003, when the 370Z came out, it started at $27k. inflation is a bitch.
@Speedracer155
@Speedracer155 2 жыл бұрын
The Supra is now available in a manual for 60,000 from the same platform. Bmw is money hungry
@peterhammer4644
@peterhammer4644 2 жыл бұрын
@@Speedracer155 yeah its a Toyota, it should cost less
@Speedracer155
@Speedracer155 2 жыл бұрын
No it’s built at the same BMW production plant using the same parts.
@shinymike4301
@shinymike4301 2 жыл бұрын
Future performance EVs will be insanely fast, AND STILL SUCK.
@rjanmjanger5840
@rjanmjanger5840 2 жыл бұрын
Jealousy is a bad look on you
@troletrain
@troletrain 2 жыл бұрын
You're definitely in the minority. In the near future, the majority of people will laugh at petrol heads like you who don't care about the planet.
@dor1tomcswagger69
@dor1tomcswagger69 2 жыл бұрын
@@rjanmjanger5840 why would someone be jealous about EVs? Hatred yes but jealousy 😂 EVs will be lucky if they stay around for 15-20 years everyone buying an EV for the wrong reasons to save money and it will have a big impact on our environment which both isn't true plus our hydro grids wouldn't handle 1/5th of the population with EVs 😂
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
Yes your blood. Muahaha Muahaha
@francosheene4631
@francosheene4631 2 жыл бұрын
what a white elephant that EV is why have they put the M badge on that. nope
@dor1tomcswagger69
@dor1tomcswagger69 2 жыл бұрын
Why put a grill if it's not needed BMW are a bunch of 🤡s 😂
@chriskarsseboom2200
@chriskarsseboom2200 2 жыл бұрын
Cause they already have the bumper in production. Making a new mold would be very costly. Do you understand production cost?
@dor1tomcswagger69
@dor1tomcswagger69 2 жыл бұрын
@@chriskarsseboom2200 I do but do you understand the grill is already different and they spent money on making it different so...... 🤔🤷 Why not change it 😂 BMW just stubborn pushing their design on everything even if it's not needed
@rottwylor
@rottwylor 2 жыл бұрын
Hi mouth breather, to answer your question, it’s probably for a few reasons. Branding (the grill has always been part of the branding), all the electronics (easier access/replacement than removing the entire front end), and people still like cars with a “face”. The lack of a face, like in Tesla, makes cars look stupid, generic, and ugly.
@lotusjp
@lotusjp Ай бұрын
There's only a deco on the car that is what makes it an the rest is all BS so I don't know why I even bothering to review this $90,000 waste of time! It's just cosmetic BS. No performance the m gets blown away by Tesla Model 3 performance even the regular Tesla I bet it's faster the long range two motor.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 2 жыл бұрын
I'll save you all from watching this video: EVs still cannot match their ICE counterparts from a performance/handling perspective.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
I'll not save you from making a fool of yourself. Lets make a simple test: We both go into our closed garages enter our parked cars and start them. 10 minutes later we'll see who survives. I win. LOL.
@KP-xi4bj
@KP-xi4bj 2 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangpreier9160 I guess reading is not your strength? Yup. Sounds about right.
@PekkaJaakkola-m8x
@PekkaJaakkola-m8x 10 ай бұрын
The correct counterpart for i4M50 is M440ix. i4 will beat it in performance but M440ix handles better!
@jamesmcgovern5563
@jamesmcgovern5563 2 жыл бұрын
I test drove an i4 m50 last week. Funny thing is, my tesla model 3 drives/handles more like an 3 series/M3 car than this did. I was very disappointed. Almost felt like I was driving an SUV. They are probably sharing the same platform with their electric SUV.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 2 жыл бұрын
Its too heavy.
@klaus8458
@klaus8458 2 жыл бұрын
190 miles range, 5000 pounds, horrendous styling, no this is not an M car or even a proper electric car. I'd take an Albert Bierman Korean car or even a Tesla over these god aweful looking BMW electric cars.
@Yormsane
@Yormsane 2 жыл бұрын
Trashy digital instruments in a 'drivers' car. Nope.
@minso8164
@minso8164 2 жыл бұрын
The i4 would be great if it were cheaper than a Model 3 since the Tesla is quicker, faster, has a charging network, more range, a functioning autopilot etc.
@haywood41
@haywood41 2 жыл бұрын
All misnomers. The TM3 is not a better deal after the current price increases TM3 RWD is $42k base and $54k with FSD TM3 LR is $51k base and $63k with FSD TM3P is $58k base and $76k if you add FSD and a metallic paint. The I4 still gets a $7500 rebate in the US. There are things on a BMW you cannot buy on a Tesla; HUD, leather, adaptive suspension, laser lights, AirPlay etc. Also if you add FSD to any Model 3 the disparity on price becomes glaring and the BMW is cheaper even loaded. Plus, the quality, fit and finish is not even close. Also, the speed is about the same and Tesla will never be able to match the handling of a BMW. As of March 2022, in US, there are 1315 Tesla Supercharger locations vs as of February 2022, 7018 Public DC fast charging locations, with the number growing exponentially in the next few years. So there are over 5 times more DC fast charging locations than there are Tesla supercharging locations. So, that's not a selling feature anymore. Lastly, onto to FSD. BMW system is better. Here's why. Tesla has 8 cameras and they all use vision only. They are blind in fog, and bad weather. BMW uses a combination of vision, lidar, and GPS. Tesla also has no redundancy in vision so it will never be FSD. Really do your research on the i4. It's a no-brainer against the Tesla.
@slobodang7886
@slobodang7886 2 жыл бұрын
What does FSD mean if you don’t mind me asking?
@haywood41
@haywood41 2 жыл бұрын
@@slobodang7886 Full self-driving.
@minso8164
@minso8164 2 жыл бұрын
@Stefan What you call a PR stunt does 90% of my driving. It's no less than a lifechanger. Won't ever buy any car without it again.
@sailingandsomejokes
@sailingandsomejokes 2 жыл бұрын
But on the other hand, bmw offers quality cabin and looks. Service network. It has pedigree. I would choose bmw all day every day. Period. On cold climate it has also meaning full heater, which tesla is lacking
@swanblake
@swanblake 2 жыл бұрын
Both are so ugly its hard to get excited, but the M3 would be my choice here. Soulless, heavy EV in the i4 being called an M car is sad. BMW has lost it
@ctk4949
@ctk4949 2 жыл бұрын
DISGUSTING X2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@peterhammer4644
@peterhammer4644 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the video. Though the steering feel talk is quite boring. Even the 992 has almost no steering feel, so its not only a problem of BMW. You need hydraulic steering if you want proper feel.
@jameswillard1
@jameswillard1 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, other than Lotus Evora or Mclaren everything modern car currently on sale has numb steering
@nathanielordonez2257
@nathanielordonez2257 2 жыл бұрын
Petrol 💪🏼>electric 🤮🤮🤮
@rodluizetto
@rodluizetto 2 жыл бұрын
That I4 need some alignment on the front bumper 😂. The gap with the hood on the right side looks horrible. Did you guys crash it? 😅
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