BMW M57 Smoke on Startup? PCV/CCV Vortex Crankcase Breather Replacement, E90 335d Exhaust Smoke Fix

[@kris985]

Used this tutorial this morning, was very helpful and took me less than an hour. Unfortunately blue smoke persists which means it's valve stem seals, but at least I got a new crankcase breather.

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

@@kris985 glad the video helped. Is it just on cold start?

[@E75]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos i did the same by changing vortex breather and still getting blue smoke but this is only on cold starts and then it goes back to normal

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

@@E75 you may need to change your glow plugs and control module 😬 Here’s a video doing it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKWWZGyEgcd8f7Msi=CIi-j_fCFLEXN7pr

[@E75]

@StupidBlokeStupidVideos let's say i don't change it would it lead to something bad or can I live with how it is now?

[@kris985]

@@E75 you can live without it but your fuel economy will go down and you car will run rich

[@ijs6962]

To fix this you need to fit a MANN + HUMMEL ProVent 200, it re-routs the oil vapour away from the intake.

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

Maybe, but this is my dads car and he’s all about genuine parts.

[@ijs6962]

This is a genuine part used on other models- kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpyxkqGaa6qcfK8

[@shiftyuk]

My car smokes a lot at the start (M57 - 335D E92) dpf removed and EGR delete, would this method work to reduce smoke? As winter time it’s far worse and oil burns a lot. 216k miles.

[@arnietwo11]

Bien hecho otra vez !! I changed the pcv on my e53, X5 and got the new improved version, so have done this job ! I was laughing at the start when u said " hope i dont need to take all that plastic shit off "" Ehhh yes u will !! And i would have taken my washer jet over all that old dust !! Glad it all went to plan !!

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

Haha yea I had the take all that shit off, but not as bad as when I took the manifold off at least

[@arnietwo11]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos last week i did a service on a petrol ford kuga and the oil filter is ontop but under the inlet manifold @@ How ridicilous @@ I had to remove it 2 get access and put a 27mm socket on the oil filter cap

[@Szentgyorgyi33]

Arnietwo have this solved your startup smoke issue? I have replaced mine aswel on E53 3.0d but no difference.

[@99mutz]

I have a 2012 BMW X5 3.0 DIESEL - smoke on start up white/blue then goes after a while. Only ever does this when cold, what would you recommend

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

Could be this, could also be bad glow plugs

[@99mutz]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos thanks! I’ll get this looked at

[@AndresScored]

If the m57 Diesel is deleted it will always do that no matter what

[@blankname8553]

@@AndresScored Really? Mine is deleted. Why is this true?

[@ShanesPOV]

Still doing some more research before i pull the trugger and just buy one. I have a 2011 335d US spec thats been blowing a ton of black smoke on acceleration and white smoke on startups. It also has been having bad blow by out of the dipstick. Do you think its the pcv valve/system?

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

The dipstick blow by is likely the PCV. The cold start up could be too, but could also be other things like poor injectors and more commonly bad glow plugs/control module. The back smoke on acceleration is more likely to be a boost leak. Check the bottom intercooler hose and the intercooler itself. They can leak where the plastic tanks are joined to the metal core.

[@andreizediu7612]

I have the same problem, have you solved the problem with the smoke?

[@jj-tq4hx]

My M57 on my 530D E60 has some white smoke and really smelly fumes from the exhaust that make my eyes water. Could it be time to replace the pcv valve? What are the symptoms of a faulty valve? Great tutorial by the way.

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

It’s possible yea and it’s probably the first thing to change as it’s the cheapest and easiest. Does it do it only when cold or does it do it when warm too? Does it run smooth otherwise?

[@Mucky_Muck]

​​@@StupidBlokeStupidVideosHi, I'm gonna be rude and get involved in this conversation. My E92 is also smelly and I get blue smoke on startup, sometimes a big puff. It clears after a couple of seconds and doesn't come back until the next cold start. Never smokes while driving or idling otherwise, but fumes are smelly af. It also consumes a little bit of oil. Car runs great tho. Sounds like bad pcv? Is there a way to know for sure or should I just put a new one in and hope that it was faulty? Edit: Forgot to ask - can pcv have impact on the way car starts? Like, it cranks for longer, for example.

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

@@Mucky_Muck the pcv can cause smoke like this but is unlikely to make it take longer to start. Glow plug modules are common to fail which can cause both your symptoms, but usually only make it crank longer when it’s particularly cold. A bad injector/injectors can also cause your symptoms, but usually cause issues when running too if they cause smoke. The long crank can be injectors leaking back excessively, won’t cause rough running once started but can cause the fuel pump to struggle to raise the fuel pressure to within the range to allow the injectors to open, but then when it does the engine usually just fires into life with no smoke or spluttering. Leaking back injectors can also cause a dde/limp dick mode fault under high demand. I think your issue is a mix of pcv and glow plugs tbh. This is the job involved in doing the glow plugs/module: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGrPdWqkg8iZn68si=myC1XDmWbpz9aXcp

[@Mucky_Muck]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Thanks for the reply. Cranking isn't really a concern currently as it has happened only twice so far, once it took something like a second longer to start and second time it was closer to two seconds. I know, it's not much, but never happened before at 0°C. My main concern is still the blue smoke on startups, slight oil consumption and smelly fumes. As I researched I found info that removing oil filler cap should indicate if pcv is bad, there should be blowby and cap should jump around when unscrewed. Any comment on that? My cap does move a little bit when unscrewed, but it's not jumping around, feels pretty normal. That's why I'm kinda puzzled, but I think I'll just replace the pcv as it's not that expensive part anyway.

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

@@Mucky_Muck yea, the cap trick. I forgot to show that int eh video tbh. You unscrew the cap, then hold it down with your finger. Let go after about 10 seconds. If it blows the cap up then it’s blocked up. This is to demonstrate it being blocked though, which doesn’t usually happen on the later non-loo roll filter type pcv. Usually when they burn oil it’s a different fault, maybe a split diaphragm inside.

[@RichardABW]

Hi, thanks for this. I need to do it on my e39. As well as the puff of smoke was there a bit of an oil-burning smell?

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

I’d expect so but it’s my dad’s car and I never saw it do it in person, only had the videos he filmed to go off really. Since replacing this I’ve also done the glow plugs and control module which is a common fault on M57. Your e39 will have a different type of breather, probably the “loo roll” type which can actually block up, and a common mod is to change them for the vortex type if remember right. The way to test if it’s blocked is to run the engine, unscrew the oil cap and hold it down with your finger for about 10 seconds. When you release your finger, if the cap pops up to release pressure in the crank case then your breather is probably blocked. If so the sort it out as soon as possible as it can cause the engine to to run its own oil and proper fuck it up. This is changing the glow plugs and module: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGrPdWqkg8iZn68si=lhoDREyU9Op0hcqY This is my mates van after it had a diesel runaway kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGm1mJloi5aeeacsi=lxq98BtAKBNRAIkS

[@RichardABW]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Thank you so much for the reply. My oil was replaced by a highly regarded garage about 500 miles ago (but it’s due a change again as it was a while back). However the oil level is currently at more or less the max marker on the dipstick. Is this a reasonable sign that it hasn’t ‘run its own oil’ (do you mean run on its own oil)? Or when it does this is it only a small amount so this wouldn’t be noticeable? My car certainly has a bad smell, no visible oil anywhere.

[@ATV-Grace]

A preset torque setting to fuck knows what! 🤣 I like that haha

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

I’m like a walking auto data,.. but without any of the data.

[@mas7241]

My BMW X5 E70 has security pentagon bolts holding this down. (not 5mm allen (hex)) looks like 5mm. Anyone else have this? Why the security bolts I wonder...?

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

I’ve heard someone else say this. Maybe just a different design?

[@jimmykoran7805]

I put the oil cap on with the bmw logo facing the front and now it wont start. Any fix?

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

@@jimmykoran7805 nah, you’ve fucked it bro

[@tomthompson7400]

Ive heard it said that those engines are great to drive , lots of torque and lots of power ,,, easy ish on juice too , how are you finding it ??

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

It’s my dads this one, but yea I like them. I’ll probably get one as my next car. This one is standard so 286bhp, and with not much work they see 350+ really easily.

[@tomthompson7400]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos and Im told they dont explode that often either , coupled to an x drive they make a real weapon.

[@jouseyjunior8874]

this cars are great dude. i have a 2010 335d deleted and its insane. decent looking car, reliable (when deleted), fast as hell, and best of all great mileage. what else could you want in a car lol

[@arcranges2390]

Hi there, wondering where I could buy that PCV valve from for my e70 35d with an M57 engine? Yours look different.

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

This was from BMW themselves if I remember right, but there’s various different ones available on eBay

[@kucickula]

did you find out ?i have same e70 35d m57 but realoem dont show that part number ...

[@rolivares507]

hi what size its the tool to get the screws thank you

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

I can’t remember for sure, but I think it was either a 4mm hex or a t25. I usually show what tools I use in my vids but must have forgot this time.

[@yvngzoe01]

what socket did u use to remove those bolts? it it not a regular allen, it is 5 sides

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

They are normal hex alan bolts

[@yvngzoe01]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos the US Spec 335d is not a regular one. As an answer to my question, for future person, a flat head screwdriver and an impact will work just as well.

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

@@yvngzoe01 ah right. This is a UK one and has regular Alan, or hex as you yanks call them. What year is the car? May be an LCI thing. This one is pre-lci.

[@undergroundlegend198]

My cars pcv housing is full of oil,why is it so? Yours looks completely dry

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

Is yours the other type of pcv with the loo roll filter?

[@undergroundlegend198]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos hi no please,its just a plastic housing with a pipe from the front of the engine ,i tried to fit the loo roll but i removed it a few days later since the blue smoke was still there,my car is 2009 x5 3.0sd

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

@@undergroundlegend198 did you ever get to bottom of this?

[@undergroundlegend198]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos not yet broh,the car is in parking right now it keeps stalling and there are no error codes apparently it has bad injectors,the way i love it when its working fine

[@theemkay11]

Did this today.. the car now is smoking white as hell nonstop. Don’t know why

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

This shouldn’t really cause white smoke, but where did you get the part from?

[@theemkay11]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos autodoc, febi bilstein.. but after i took a drive the smoke went away 👍🏻

[@PeteBeardsley]

Enough with the old tat like BMW, we want quality Shitroen content!

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

C1 will be back next Saturday lol

[@ivarsmatisons]

Paldies par informaciju 0:12

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

esi laipni aicināts

[@ivarsmatisons]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Tencinu

[@undergroundlegend198]

Why is there no filter inside the housing?

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

It’s somewhere hidden

[@jusb1066]

BMW are great cars...for Melting down into Toyota's 😅

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

They’re great, when there working.

[@tamastarnai9295]

Hey whats the intro song?

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

Prodigy “Breathe”

[@tamastarnai9295]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos thx, brw its a good video 👍

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

@@tamastarnai9295 no probs, and thanks!

[@kucickula]

someone have part number for this pcv?

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

There are a few different ones depending on your engine.

[@kucickula]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos 2012 x5 e70 m57 35d i cant find on realoem

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

@@kucickula I think this one was got direct from BMW

[@rainersrico444]

I hear the stories that only oen part works as it shud, i put in febi blisten and the ssme shit smoke and burn oil ,wet intake on large turbo,must be oil.sucked in thro membrane

[@rhysswildlifeanimalsandmor9903]

Hi

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

Hi

[@rhysswildlifeanimalsandmor9903]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos nice car

[@joebloggs3629]

Nothing like a bit of Prodigy...... German excellence...... Is that short for over complicated shite that everyone believes is the dogs bollocks as it has a German badge?

[@StupidBlokeStupidVideos]

Yes 🙃🤣

[@joebloggs3629]

@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos to be fair to German engineering there is a Junkers 88 at the base of the cliffs 17 miles up the road from me that crashed in 1941 and part of the engine is still on the beach after years of attack from saltwater I'm sure the remains will still be of better quality than the modern day German shit which reputation relies on yesteryears reliability 😂