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[@Th3_Genius]

Just watched you provide about 4 minutes of N20 info then ramble on for the remainder of the video to get it over the 10 minute mark.. Great.

[@charleswingate31]

Ah, saved me time thanks.

[@victormaholik594]

I have a 2014 f30 n20. Upgraded intercooler, catless down pipe, intake, bootmod3 and misc bolt on’s. Love the car, no major issues, reliable and sneaky quick.

[@joshuastanaland7099]

How many miles

[@stevecariggillio4139]

Your videos, and a live chat once, helped me do my gaskets in my N52. At the time I had never done anything past oil and brakes. I seriously thank you for all these videos.

[@ShowMeWhatINeedToKnow]

I'm on the F30 forums all the time. The biggest thing I hear about regarding the n20 is the timing chain issue. All the other problems you mentioned exist, but they don't seem that common. The F30s must have set a new benchmark of reliability, for BMW -- there doesn't seem to be a lot of common problems, otherwise (aside from squeaks and rattles).

[@Benny-zo3qh]

Yup, timing chain and oil pipe going to the turbo.

[@fastboatster]

I have to agree that dynamics is better and fuel consumption is better. I was getting 25mpg where I'd get 20mpg with n51

[@binniedj]

Keep it up Nathan and thank you for what you do. I’ve got an E90 with an N51 and an F10 with a N55. Please do some N55 videos. Us BMW fanboys will never go away

[@sir-beachyrs8205]

I have a 2014 N20 and would love N20 videos just sayin. I think as the N20 is smaller than the N55 overall it has less of the issues you mentioned but maybe i am wrong.

[@SFSraptor]

Very happy to hear you will be doing videos on the N20. I think it's a wise addition that will provide for a great return & spike in eyeballs. Just pepper your titles with "N20." I have a 2015 528i and love working on the car. Its super easy to maintain & work on. Everything is easily accessible with the exception of a few things, mostly on the side the Turbo resides, like the CO2 Sensor, etc. Troubleshooting however is were I lack the skills. I did give it a Transmission Oil change at 50k miles. But, I am looking forward having you demonstrated doing a Transmission Flush at home. You just keep doing what you do best and they will follow. Regards

[@FlexRogers]

Although not as refined as its 6 cylinder cousins, I firmly believe the N20 is the superior motor

[@TedSchoenling]

I'm an e46 owner.. and have been pondering a F30 but I'm kinda scared of 'em.. they look more hard to work on, and have issues that I don't want to live with...

[@nocreaselucas8810]

Very few issues- maintenance is on the pricey side but that comes for all newish BMW modes- I love my F30 it’s excellent and really rather quick

[@robloxperalta9646]

I personally like the n20 better it's smoother more powerful than the n52 I feel, bought a few with timing chain issues but never had one with piston to valve damage. But the n52 is reliable but I like the n20

[@chadriddle3517]

Excited to see what new car arrives soon!

[@zlord1199]

Yes time for newer BMW model videos. I want to see F10 5 series videos

[@catdog4723]

Hi Nathan, I feel you make the best bmw videos on KZbin. Thank you for producing honest videos.

[@stymiesnerdly771]

I know I've said it before, but DAMN, I love that new shop!

[@fastboatster]

Yes, yes, yes! I want to see an f30. I love my e90, but need something newer, too.

[@NinaSOP_]

Me to lmao thinking to get one next Month

[@jbcarsvids4128]

Get a 330i they are better than the 328i and haven’t had any real issues yet

[@fastboatster]

@@jbcarsvids4128 yeah, the later ones with b48 are somewhat more reliable than the earlier ones with n20/n26, but more expensive

[@akdomun]

I really like that you tell it as it is, and criticize BMW's design flaws. Somebody needs to push back, keep at it!

[@pinoysi06]

BMW community needs motor swap videos 👍🏽👍🏽

[@BMWDoctor]

Pinoy Boy no you mean YOU need motor swap videos

[@standyourground9973]

@@BMWDoctor Nah, we could use some. Everybody's afraid of swaps because of how complicated all the modules are and getting them to sync up with a totally different powertrain.

[@BMWDoctor]

#StandYourGround who’s scared of modules mate that’s like the easiest easiest part of a engine swap the scary part is not knowing if it will start or be knackered once you get it all in 😂 as you don’t know if anyone is actually telling the truth about the engine being running when removed lol

[@funfun8095]

One of our Bimmers is a 2013 F10 528i xdrive. Chain guides broke. POS Last BMW we will buy. Only ones to buy are ones under warranty or ones that have had all issues fixed already. Would like to see you do one. In middle of replacing the guides now, but can't find where to pin the crank, to take balancer bolt out.

[@twinscrolled]

I'm so tired of people saying N55's blow up randomly. If you tried hard you could probably find one failure that was an original owner, non tuned, well maintained car (not 10,000 - 14,000 oil change intervals) . All other failures people talk about online never offer any proof of the failure method and the dealers can't take apart the engines to find out why either . It's just internet nonsense. The N55 was produced in massive number compared to the N54 for example and even if you could find 10 documented failures that were prematurely on stock well maintained cars, it would be statistically insignificant.

[@Cyrix2k]

Hard to tell. I've seen a disturbing number of ads for N55 vehicles that have had the engine replaced by BMW. Hopefully its just the internet blowing it out of proportion... my family just acquired an N55 E70. I've done a lot of work on N54s and they've been much better than the internet would suggest.

[@twinscrolled]

@@Cyrix2k yeah all engines have a failure rate, I have seen a few N55 failures but no concrete evidence that it is a fault in the engines design that caused the failure , all of them have been multiple owner cars that were tuned with little to no documented maintenance. BMW did issue a tsb about priming the engine after doing an oil filter housing gasket change but they offered no insight as to why. Anyone who says the N55 has some specific fault causing a large number of failures is just full of shit really. But I have seen a few "reputable" shops and builders make such statements with zero context or proof to back it up.

[@twinscrolled]

@@Cyrix2k and speaking of ads, I found a super clean one owner 335is that was dealer serviced only and it's first oil change was not done until 14,000+ miles and it had 60k on it and every oil change was done at over 10,000 miles. In my opinion those intervals are way too long and common for those owners who just let the cars CBS system tell them when the car needs service.

[@donovanmiller8992]

I’m shopping for a Z4 2014-2016 glad you mentioned the N20 issues. I’ll get the N54 like my 335

[@JC-po3xu]

I have a 2014 Z4 281 with 83k miles. Regular maintenance no issues

[@donovanmiller8992]

@@JC-po3xu i got a 2016z4. 20k miles

[@Nosnorb06]

I wouldn't touch an N20 or N26 with a 10 foot pole unless you're comfortable with doing the timing chain. If the chain snapped, the motor is toast. The N55s are crazy reliable for a BMW. The first few years had issues with rod bearings. That issue was addressed in around 2013 when ALL N55s started using the S55 rod and crank bearings and the S55 forged rods. The 2014+ N55s also went to electronic wastegates along with a larger turbo. If you get an M235, you also get a forged crank and more cooling upgrades. Lastly, the 2014+ N55s have injectors that require no coding. Injectors rarely fail as well.

[@FastBackCa]

I disagree, I’ve done the timing on countless of n20/n26 motors, and when the timing fails, the valves don’t bend. Just repair the timing, and the engine runs like new.

[@DuckMcDuckinson]

What? The N20s made during the 2015 model year and newer have little to no timing chain issues. I have a 2015 428i and the car is super good.

[@orlmagicfan4life528]

@@DuckMcDuckinson so do the 2015 n20s have the remedied timing chain, or is it after 2015 (2016+)?

[@DuckMcDuckinson]

@@orlmagicfan4life528 I use AMSOIL to keep the timing chain as healthy as possible. I have 87,000 on my 428i rn and it’s 2015 and there’s a little play in the chain when it’s off but that’s because I had a oil leak from my drain plug because stupid me got drain plugs on Amazon and it was like that for 7500 miles and the oil level never told me for some reason it was low. But it’s very tight regardless and absolutely no timing noise at all on start up or while driving. AMSOIL is the remedy i recommend for these N20s, specifically the 0W-40 European Formula. Still get 36 mpg on the highway with it. The ones with a build date 1/2015 or after have the updated one but mines is 9/2014 but mines feels really solid, maybe BMW was putting revisions to the timing assemblies months before they duly went with revised ones.

[@DuckMcDuckinson]

@@orlmagicfan4life528 it’s because it’s 100% synthetic and the film of the oil gives a lot better lubricity for the chain and plastic guides.

[@joebloggs4191]

The question in your title you didn't answer, was the N52 better than the N20? Man half the video was just waffle about nothing.

[@kirilchuk]

Nathan Awesome vids, keep them rolling.

[@kirilchuk]

2011 f30 94k and my water pump is malfunctioning, fans would come on and off on and off . And keeps doing , code said 20A804, those water pumps are not reliable always something, do to the car being from east coast I know electrical components do not like to be where there is moisture. Bought the car from a private party around 60k and after washing engine bay the car went in to limp mode. I did fine the problem ,the connections on the engine are the problem water gets in there very easy and you need to take it off and blow it out dry ,and it will come back if engine bay will get washed I packed it with some electric greas and that's it.

[@brianandrews7099]

Hey, I enjoy the BMW videos and I will keep watching, but I gotta say that my biggest take away since they channel move more away from the e46 and e39 era cars to the newer models is that the newer stuff just doesn’t seem DIY friendly or as durable as the older cars. Seems like there is more interest creeping in on the ‘80s era e30/e28s through to the late ‘90s e46/e39 cars, which probably explains why the prices on these older cars are on the rise. They really are a joy to work on compared to the stuff made in the last 10 years and people who want to turn their own wrenches are starting to notice it. Not picking on the newer BMWs here ... its just they way the industry is moving; more and more computers controlling plastic parts that are just not designed and engineered to last. It just seems like BMW is now happier building the “ultimate leasing machine”; runs great, fast, fun to drive, dependable ... until the lease expires then the engine/trans/electrical system blows. It seems to be what its all about with more and more new cars. Very sad to me.

[@revolverrambles]

Hope things workout for you. This is one of the channels I went to for info when I got my 323i last year.

[@NinaSOP_]

Got my 07 323i last year just upgraded to a 320i 2012

[@kermittfrog480]

Besides you and Dean, almost every other channel is ONLY doing E46 and E39

[@BMWDoctor]

John Vahos that’s correct but you do know why this is right ???

[@kermittfrog480]

BMW Doctor no one else is skilled enough? 😉

[@BMWDoctor]

John Vahos exactly that N52 is fitted in all cars riddles with electronics and computers and everything is electronic and nobody knows how to do any of that stuff luckily I help Nathan but others don’t have that to be able to do that or move to other stuff HELL I could just move to a g series if I wanted bmw electronics ain’t got s***t on me I got all my new equipment and bench for g series already to start doing that chassis now

[@ghirmagreene6548]

F30 cruise control malfunction that resets by itself, nobody can seem to give me an actual cause and fix, its just annoying when it happens and goes away about 30 seconds later. Posted the issue on a few forums, and the only answer that I get is that I have that problem too...so I know that I am not the only one.

[@Orlandobori]

Great video Nathan ! I have an f30 328i

[@Tigerfan50]

I am thinking about buying a new BMW X3. I have owned BMWs in the past with the amazing 3.0 six and am concerned about the N20's reliability. Four cylinder turbos can be expensive to own. I owed an Audi A4 and had turbo issues constantly. Finally, at 50K miles, the turbo died--a $4,000 repair bill. Needless to say, I got rid of the Audi and will NEVER own one again. A friend of mine who is a veteran mechanic for Honda observed that no 4 cylinder turbo can be reliable over time. The combination of increased heat and wear to achieve greater performance works against long term reliability. My question is this: is the N20 turbo reliable? What's the track record for turbo failures? Cost to replace a turbo? How much oil does the N20 use between oil changes? I would really like to own an X3, but I'm concerned about the turbo 4 engine. Thank you!

[@dylanoppeneer2354]

very reliable if well maintained. 2/3 of the bmw n55

[@terremoto..6809]

Would you consider doing an engine swap like a newer engine into a classic-older bmw?

[@frostsquad2733]

Hugo Mora good luck getting that to work, also pointless . S54 timeless

[@combinedeffects4799]

Well I have a 2014 bmw 328 with 241,000 km - I really haven’t experienced any major issues but I do change my oil every 10,000 Km - I worry about never changing my transmission fluid but the transmission shifts great still - no leaks , nothing - the gas mileage is fantastic. Now I don’t t accelerate like a crazy person - I drive very moderately so I am not sure if it’s because of this - maybe I am not putting pressure on the turbo ? Not sure why I have had such good reliability - Changed under warranty - oil sensor , NAV screen , and some sort of pulley belts under the extended warranty. Is my car going to explode soon?

[@jccolon-mendez661]

Thanks for the info. What do you think to add a better intercooler to improve cooling inside? I have an 328i M-Performance 2014.

[@wessimpson2544]

First time on your channel probably because just 2 months ago I purchased my 1st BMW. Now I'm older guy in my 60's and owned tons of cars and SUV's over the years most of the major brands American, Japanese and some Europeans ones. It just seemed in the past it was always the later that gave me the most issues - always loved the way they drove but hated the parts and labor cost when they broke. So I now like SUV's it just fits my life style. I found a CPO 2017 X1. It's not going to blow anyone off the road that's not what I'm going for at all. What do you think of that Engine? I've only owned one other turbo car prior which was a Saab 95 and the turbo later started leaking oil. So one much newer and only 50K so I drive my car long and many miles - well over 100K.

[@HoweDoYouDo1999]

2 halves 2 cylinders for each that’s exactly how it goes😊

[@TheKeenMechanic]

Very informative. Thanks

[@aruekca18det]

Hope to see N55 on E70 soon.

[@jeepjunkie302]

Can you do a review of the (e82) 128i/135i coupe or convertible???

[@patrykiwan9346]

Great vid. I had a question. Currently have an n54 for 3 years and ownership wasn't as bad as people make it. It has its issues but always keep it in tip-top shape since I do all the work myself. Looking to upgrade to an f10 m5 with the s63tu. I know the n63/s63 has its own issues but a lot of them were fixed with the tu. Is the s63tu considered a more reliable engine compared to the n54?

[@OzzyTheFerret129]

Patryk Iwan do it that is what I’m looking to do to either a e60 m5 or a f10m 5 that motor was better than the x5M I have some info on it if you want

[@OzzyTheFerret129]

No n63 sa63 tu

[@OzzyTheFerret129]

www.caranddriver.com/features/a22604250/two-bmw-twin-turbo-v-8s-emerge-from-the-same-factory-but-dont-call-them-the-same/

[@patrykiwan9346]

cek151 russo thank you

[@jeffburrell7338]

E60 and F10n20. You rock. 👍

[@billyingram5394]

Hey Nathaniel I have a single question for you. Where do you get your cars from or find them and where do you get your prices and values for them from please. Like I said I am trying to find a e39 to buy now and need some help please thank you

[@duffydon1741]

Try the EAG group..hit them up on insta, they will sort you out with E39 M5s and just about any exotic BMW, make sure your pockets are loaded..

[@MrCuckoobox]

Gas Turbo = Issues + More Maintenance + $$$ + Headache Gas Turbo is the Automobile Manufactures answer for emissions, gas mileage and power.

[@HoweDoYouDo1999]

Twin scroll is essentially a twin turbo it’s no exactly a single if 1 part of the exhaust is being fed by 2 cylinders 😂

[@drummergdaff6770]

I have a 2016 F30, N20 engine, have any advice? I want to get the MST Inlet at least, it’s not too much. I would like the intake that comes with it, but it’s really unnecessary. It’s just for looks really.

[@goolamuns.a.hussein6993]

Please do a video on the N13 engine mate Ty.

[@igorkonovalchuk2186]

Is there a typical mileage range that the timing chain guides need to be done? I'm looking at a 2014 X3 with 87k miles

[@flycacha]

I'm looking for a 2015-2016 M4 coupe. Been doing my homework on the car and all I can see negatively about the car is the crank shaft which can be replaced for $4-500. Am I making a mistake coming from a modded 370Z?

[@TJ-cw3mv]

No m4 is wayyyy better than 370z

[@LEOOOX22]

Please help me guys to decide.... I'm intending to buy a 2016 F10. Which engine is better in your opinion n20 or n55?! All answers highly appreciated . Thanks !

[@alexd5240]

n52 lol

[@LEOOOX22]

@@alexd5240 ended up with a 6 series gt lol

[@alexd5240]

@@LEOOOX22 nah j was just joking about the n52 all though its the most reliable. Anyways the 6 series has a b48 which from what i heard is better than the n20. Idk how the b48 compares to n52 tho. All i know is the n52 is good and i own one lol. 2010 328i e92 btw if you were wondering.

[@LEOOOX22]

@@alexd5240 yeah, after tons of reviews and research, I must admit that nowadays the 3.0 in line 6 bmw engine is the better choise VS 4.4l v8

[@LEOOOX22]

For an each day driving car

[@bobbyjones558]

I wish u could do a no crank no start on 2002 745I.🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@stevecariggillio4139]

I'll keep my N52 thx

[@rhiantaylor3446]

Love your channel but I live in europe where most bmws are diesel. I appreciate most/all US cars use gas but if you can drop in some diesel content it would be great.

[@BMWDoctor]

Rhian Taylor I have the diesel content mate Nathan cannot do diesel

[@michaelporter3555]

I have no problem with the lottery scratch off videos especially if you are making money on them and since I never buy them it's entertaining to watch you scratch and and not win or at least not win more than you spend. It's a better you than me thing. I do think if you could actually win a decent amount on a video you would probably get a huge number of views.

[@markt9438]

Hey Nathan not sure where else i can ask this as you email is bombed ! LOL Have a strange issue M3 06 low beam is buzzing on key position 1 for just 1 sec coming directly from lamp housing ,engine runs off rough when i either have daytime running lights on or Lights activated ! Like it is interfering with DME . Final issue is driver side low beam is weak going on ! Looks like a light on it way out and or ballast? I have ordered Osram H7 low beams and help much appreciated !

[@fastboatster]

Spoiler- Nathan bought an e60 m5. So maybe n20 or n55 is next on the car(d)s.

[@alexd5240]

Basically buy the n52 its more reliable and not a money pit. Your welcome.

[@fastboatster]

So is n52 better or not?

[@123456bmx]

fastboatster yes

[@MegaSuperMiracle]

Hey Nathan, can you please do video on BMW 8 series from 90s?

[@BMWDoctor]

Борис Гурьев lol 😂 I highly doubt that

[@macelius]

Suppose there's plenty of e36 stuff out there, but an E31 would be fun. What's with people so entitled that they expect you to make every video like you're doing it just for them.

[@cartere9981]

N52 was definitely not better had both n52 something would go wrong every other day

[@davidaslani1572]

E53 x5 3.0i videos are great just anything or make a video with a tip for alllllll

[@omarrahman5532]

The N55 blows up randomly 😳? Mines a 2014 I purchased new and is yet to explode on me 😂😂😂

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Dont say that lol

[@OzzyTheFerret129]

Why would you do some 4 cylinder video do some 4.8is n62 or n54 or n55

[@BMWDoctor]

cek151 russo lol

[@OzzyTheFerret129]

That n62 is not easy to work on 😂😂😂😂 and has enough problems for videos

[@BMWDoctor]

cek151 russo I do love that engine 😁

[@Printedperformance]

Because everyone has done them.

[@OzzyTheFerret129]

Michael Davis done what ? N62 bullshit show me 😂😂😂

[@alfonsowadeyua5293]

So...is the N52 better? I’m none the wiser.

[@rasjgo2]

I still here with my e30 patiently waiting on a video or maybe a tribute LOL

[@joecraigslist9467]

Nathan. What is the name of the Toyota channel? I'm in.

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Nathans toyota garage

[@--Zook--]

Yes please a f30!

[@maxthemaltesedog3597]

Which f10 is the most reliable . N20, n55 or n63 . I presume the n20 but anybody know . Thanks

[@atx-cvpi_99]

N55

[@verliebt3465]

awesome news, i own an F10 5 series.

[@sentoneYYC]

2/3 of the video is about how to make KZbin videos.... you forgot to talk about the engine bud

[@PokemonBrothersCC]

I have a 328i the low oil pressure came on along with power train malfunction what can it be it’s fine in oil I took it to a shop and they change a couple censors and it was fine for a couple days but came back on

[@AdamK-ww1vo]

Carlos Perez dam bro I got the same issue yesterday after I booked it on Verrazano bridge now I got a clicking noise sounding like something is loose

[@AdamK-ww1vo]

Did you find out what it was ?

[@PokemonBrothersCC]

Adhurim Klobucista That’s the same thing that happen to me the noise will get worse!!! dealer telling me I need a new engine.

[@AdamK-ww1vo]

Dammit what was the underlying cause of you needing a new engine ? I don’t get it how can such a car fail like this. You had topped off oil no leaks right ?

[@PokemonBrothersCC]

Adhurim Klobucista Everything was fine in oil change the sensors all except chmged the oil pump dealer still hasn’t given me an answer. Even though they called me last Tuesday saying it was ready and two days after I picked it up it happened.

[@JoseMedina-lm6fg]

I now somebody ho has a 2012 bmw xdrive n20 ho has that problem timing chain real

[@d0218douglas]

Mine has a n26, please do videos lol!!!

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

california model lol sounds fun, remember the n51 and the old m56?

[@d0218douglas]

@@NathansBMWWorkshop I got at 20000 miles, have an oil leak but I drive the car hard, no other issues , and already Put on 25000 miles

[@dougparadis4285]

How a-bought some E70 N 54 ?

[@Cyrix2k]

E70 doesn't have the N54, just the N52, N62, N55, and N63 for gas engines in the US. The E71 does have the N54 but they're pretty rare.

[@brianw338]

Nice shop

[@marcusbodill835]

The problem now with dean, he has said he is doing no more vids on diesels 😪 that's hurtful man ! He says the UK and Europe diesel community is not worth bothering with anymore due to you Americans being his biggest subscribers! 😪

[@750gg]

N20 engine coming soon??

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

More than likely

[@zumcrew]

n26 f30 please

[@sibleystud]

M62! How about a nice e38?

[@JohnnysSpeedShop]

At least the N20 is super easy to replace ;)

[@fastboatster]

Johnny's Speed Shop really? Any vids?

[@JohnnysSpeedShop]

@@fastboatster lol...yeah mate on my channel...

[@fastboatster]

Johnny's Speed Shop will check it out!

[@peto22]

Get car with M57 or N57 engine. :)

[@BMWDoctor]

peto22 no my friend just no that relates to a small percentage of people Petrol is the ONLY way How about you get a petrol and feel welcomed

[@peto22]

@@BMWDoctor Well.. I have already M52, 3x M60 and M62 allready in my yard. I am looking for E60 LCI or early F10 Diesels because more power and way less fuel consumption!

[@BMWDoctor]

peto22 why are you worried about consumption and HELL no do they make more power have a day off mate N54 N55 B58 will KILL the diesel By you just saying more consumption clearly your BROKE and can’t afford petrol Well Nathan will listen to me and won’t do diesel it ain’t beneficial for anyone other then the EU and that means more foreigners coming to our channels that’s all we need HENCE why I stopped doing diesel I was planning to go further But after half of them couldn’t even speak English properly I had enough !!! And starter relating my videos more to the USA

[@gobey1305]

dude what are you talking about? is this a car video or you complaining about how internet is gone bad etc.? first 2 minutes cars, rest crap

[@jebthemailman]

yeah wtf is this. I wanted to hear about N20 reliability. He like just randomly transitioned into talking bs. Over him

[@Mabeylater293]

Time for a lexus

[@BMWDoctor]

first

[@Zanzabar5]

Lexus.

[@jamesluke7377]

You do "weird videos" because, well... Because you're just weird. LOL 😂

[@joshsoorlin579]

Whole video just ranting about KZbin

[@somerandomhuman8405]

So N52 is better??????

[@Cyrix2k]

Possibly. I don't have a lot of experience with the N20, but so far it seems more reliable than the N52 it replaced. Some of that is because I've dealt with higher mileage & obviously older N52s so it isn't quite a fair comparison. But the N20 I've maintained has only needed spark plugs and a thermostat (under recall) whereas every N52 I touch is basket case. They'll run forever ...after you replace *everything.*

[@jraelien5798]

Waaaay too much babbling

[@tommyandrews9404]

Any BMW engine built after the M54/S54 inline 6 and the M62/S62 V8 engines are garbage.

[@lp2565]

I thought there would be some hot chicks in this video! lol.

[@ewebbytrailscout]

,,, and all the issues with BMW using recycled plastic, dumb dumb dumb. Major reduction in lifespan due to recycled plastic, especially with heat.

[@stevelomasofficial6818]

First

[@jonssi2711]

4 cylinders and turbos sucks! Electronics sucks. I cant stand that you need a computer from bmw to a door or the battery and everything else, and not haveing a oil dip stick.....new cars sucks!

[@AllAdventuresChannel]

Basicaly, the BMW is plastic piece of shit