BMW R1250GS removal of OEM Sat Nav cradle/power supply ,install of Garmin Zumo XT mount/power supply

[@adamgsa737]

One of the best installation vid out there. Clear, concise, to the point. No fluff, just the stuff you need. Thank you for taking the time and sharing 👍

[@gsd32i]

Thanks appreciate the comment . Ride safe 👍

[@paulabraham8724]

Just wanted to say thank you for this film. I am fairly useless at DIY on bikes but had a go today doing this job as you had explained it so clearly. I got my new GSA a few days ago, ordered the connector from Nippy Normans and set to work. I even managed to route the wiring without having to move the screen. Your channel will be my go to reference point from now on.

[@gsd32i]

Thanks for the great comments and enjoy the GS 👍

[@kleef465]

​@@gsd32iSame here, just bought a 2021 1250GSA and now watching all the video's of Paul 😊

[@Omsracer1]

Just bought a GSA and looking to do this so very timely that I found your video and your precise instructions. Was thinking about getting a Sat Nav 5/6 but have read some horror stories about them so I will stick with my Zumo XT. Many thanks Peter

[@gsd32i]

Glad I could help.Enjoy the bike, love mine.😃

[@billybean7488]

Just done my new bike but used SP Mount charging anti vibration mount , using their mirror mount to attach to the BMW bar. Your video showed me exactly what to do and to source the BMW connector plug. Much appreciated. Thanks

[@gsd32i]

No problem glad it helped , have a great weekend 👍

[@peterp3224]

Great documentation, thanks! It's so easy with the BMW plug instead of wiring along the half bike to the battery. 👍

[@jans680]

Wow. By far and away the most concise, clear and neat video I have seen in a long time. Nice tidy job. Good attention to detail. Thanks

[@gsd32i]

Thanks 👍

[@wandering_armadillo]

You Tube can give a LOT of answers, but few package them in such a meticulous way! Fantastic! I'm now brave enough to fiddle with bike wires and shrink wraps lol

[@gsd32i]

Glad it was on some use 😁

[@McrBiker_81]

This is exactly the video I’ve be scouring the internet for. I have the BMW plug and play cable and I plan on installing my rider 550 to my new GSA. So nice one for making this vid, it’s precisely what I needed to connect the wiring etc. just wish I had the tools and didn’t need to buy them 😫 nice work 👍🏻

[@gsd32i]

No problem 😉 glad it helps. The gs is such an easy machine for taking things off of , much easier than any other bike I’ve had . No risk of snapping fairing clips off etc . 👍

[@paulward6016]

Microfiber to catch rogue nuts/bolts, it's the simple things that really work. I've completely removed all my bracket and wiring so I know how difficult it is to get to the plug area. You have my respect for doing it one handed too 👍

[@gsd32i]

Thanks, just a few more easier bits to install then I'm done 🤪

[@jimthompson717]

So does applying masking tape to the back, to hold the nuts in place.

[@glenndubicki4099]

Very clear, I'm about to get the Garmin Zumo XT2 & I'll follow your video instructions. Thank you very much.

[@richardsherwin3259]

Very helpful thanks. Just got the evo tech bracket as I don’t have the bar/bmw bracket. Need to check I have the socket in the fairing and I’ll be all set Cheers

[@TheMotoExplorer]

Hi there. I found your channel shortly after ordering a 1250GS TE. I’ve spent the 8 weeks awaiting delivery, familiarising myself with the bike by watching your videos. Garmin XT ordered (+ the wiring connector), though I’m going to go for the Touratech lockable mount. I’m due to pick the bike up in early September and can’t wait. I’m sure I’ll be rewatching this video when I install the Garmin. Keep up the good work!

[@gsd32i]

No problem. Into day 2 of 6 days in the Alps on the GS . Brilliant machine , garmin working a treat . Roads amazing, bike handles very well on Michelin Road 6’s . Enjoy the wait 🙈

[@mtscott]

Good video - thanks for pointing me to this. 👍😀 Handy tips on towels - I usually drop the washers, bolts or nuts for them never to be seen again! 🤔😬

[@grahamcunningham4840]

Good video as I just finished fitting my new zumo xt2 sat nav .Was easy to do following your video.Thanks again.

[@Festersmotorcycles]

fitted my one earlier today & then found your video!

[@donmartin9567]

I did the same thing "sort of". I have a GSA, not sure if that makes much difference but, I didn't remove the windshield or anything else. I started the same way you did, removing the bundle at the bottom and then removing the top part and zip ties. But then, I routed the Garmin "2 pin" connector that connects to the Zumo up from the bottom following the same path as the cradle power cable and removing the cradle power cable as I went. That way I knew I was using the same exact spaces and zip tied at the same points as the original cable plus pushing the small connector up from the bottom was way easier than trying to get the "transformer" down through the holes. Like you, I left the new bracket snugged us "reasonably" tight but still movable with a bit of force. I prepared my power cable as the first thing so it was all ready to go. Still a lot of cable to zip tie up even when you shorten the BMW cable & the red/black on the Zumo. Rather than use a mechanical connection I used a solderable butt connector which you use heat on to melt the solder to make the connection and it also has heat shrink on each end. I finished up with a length of waterproof heatshrink covering the two butt connectors. The waterproof heatshrink has glue on the inside

[@gsd32i]

Thanks for the reply for others to see regarding connecting the 2 cables together, when you have your video head on sometimes you miss the simple things !! GSA has more space around the fork area. There are definitely more ways to skin a cat.(ps not literally I am an animal lover) ride safe 👍

[@Motorscout90]

Best video on this topic 👍 saved it for when I will do the same on my R1200RS

[@gsd32i]

Thanks ✌️

[@bigdog44b4u]

Love all the things your doing to your bike. Nice inspiration for me. I have had my 1250 gs for about a month. Working on lots of things too. Your videos help me. Thank you. Keep up the great work.

[@gsd32i]

Thanks, just got back from the dealer, had first service and now I can open it up a bit, yup she goes well. Oh and new tyres , Michelin Road 6's, 👍

[@117PC]

My friend, I will receive my new bike in a couple weeks and I will applies your great work also. I will maintain my Transalp 2006 as a "vintage" bike with a mount for Zumo. Greetings from Portugal and tank you!

[@gsd32i]

Enjoy your new bike. They're brilliant. 👍

[@hrmacdonald4471]

Brilliant video...you make even the tedious jobs look fun...also love your work-space, clean & bright. Thanks for posting & stay safe!

[@gsd32i]

Thanks so much!

[@peterncox1963]

Thanks very much, I’m buying a 750GS and that’s exactly what I shall be doing 👍

[@gsd32i]

Have fun!

[@richardbriggs1335]

Very useful video, I was particularly interested how to remove the wind shield. 👍

[@chrishallwood5576]

On the back of studying this video, today I completed my installation of Zumo XT … thank you. I’ve also used your videos for installing ezCam, Denali lights, SoundBomb and Innov K5. If you didn’t do these videos I wouldn’t have done any the aforementioned. What I particularly like (as do many others I guess) is that you ‘share’ your experiences of doing the tasks rather than ‘teach’ or ‘lecture’. So ….. what’s up next? 😅😅😅

[@gsd32i]

Thanks . Currently doing a mini tour of the world war 2 Normandy landing beaches in France in the GS. So that’ll be out sometime . Some people have commented “ I can get that from China for next to nothing “ Well, a Chinese light company have sent me some lights to do a install video on the GS so that’ll be out as and when …… oh and the “likes and dislikes “ video on the GS will get done too . Trouble is these things all take time and work just gets in the way ! 😂

[@markc1967]

Great video. Just fitted one to my GSA in the same way 👍

[@HORNET6]

Great video and I’ve just done the same. Consider some electrical tape I’ve the heat shrink as a belt and braces as if any water gets in there is a risk of dissimilar metal corrosion with crimps. I always solder for that reason.

[@gsd32i]

Thanks for the info👍

[@thatguy8005]

Great looking dogs!

[@gsd32i]

Thanks👍

[@philippelabelle9988]

Splendid video! Thanks so much! I will do the same with my garmin 700i

[@gsd32i]

Glad it was helpful!

[@georgefirth09]

great solved my problem of fitting my Tom Tom to my new GS

[@marcello6731]

Truly excellent video. Congrats and thanks!

[@gsd32i]

Thanks . Ride safe 👍

[@fz1fazer999]

Most helpful video thank you very much for posting

[@gsd32i]

Glad it helped 👍

[@mikemerrill175]

Very well detailed installation. I went with the Nav VI which seems to be working fine though I do like the Zumo better. Surprised you didn’t solder the connections, but solid in any event.

[@gsd32i]

Thanks . I did buy a solder kit but need to practice first 🙈

[@carlhorsfall7095]

🎉 boom done following your vid!! 😊

[@gsd32i]

glad it helped 👍

[@ferrucciodefazio6650]

Wonderful job! Thank you!

[@billyray3761]

Nice job. The video was top notch!

[@gsd32i]

Glad you liked it!

[@sootylum]

Top video, thanks.

[@gsd32i]

No problem 👍

[@wrangler10]

Tip .Solder the naked wires before crimping.Much harder for the wire to slide out.

[@gsd32i]

Thanks , an electrician I am not!😜

[@GS_riders1250]

Excellent work - But please invest in a pair of flush cut snips 😉 for the cable ties 😊

[@gsd32i]

Everyday we learn something new 👍

[@GS_riders1250]

@@gsd32i 😂 been a mechanic for the last 30 years, can’t tell you how much blood 🩸 I’ve lost due to sharp tails on cable ties 🤣🤣 excellent choice of bike and pups 👍

[@gsd32i]

@@GS_riders1250 many thanks . Will have a look on Amazon 🙈

[@dalehawkes1698]

Nice install looks clean I’ve done the same thing but used the Touratech lockable mount looks the same but Torah’s can’t Nick it at a fuel station ect .

[@gsd32i]

there's always the option to run a small zip tie around the Garmin mount button, to stop it being pressed....I only do that if I am entering known bandit areas 😁

[@kristopherryanrides198]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioHMcqacibmBkKM

[@StuHNomadBiker]

Don't really need to go to all this effort now, you can now buy an adaptor that's really neat and just sits in the cradle... XT now mounted neatly in the same position P.S company called 3DAM in Italy for anybody who's interested.

[@gsd32i]

Indeed you can, but it still looks rubbish IMHO and too bulky 🤪

[@riwke3438]

Hi. I just mounted the ZUMO XT 2 to the original BMW GS 1250 ADV holder. The lock works. Everything works great!

[@brianhill3603]

Love the comment about using the right tool for the job, he says using an adjustable instead of the correct spanner 😂 classic. I'm thinking you could fit a tomtom power mount/lock with the bar mount instead.

[@gsd32i]

Thanks 👍

[@Guinnessisgoodforyou]

Only joking 😅 meant to say crimp connectors are the work of the devil😵 a soldered joint with thinner heat shrink makes a neater job, a cheap soldering station from Fleabay is a godsend 👍👍👍

[@gsd32i]

@@Guinnessisgoodforyou 😂 I did buy a soldering kit from b and q but don’t know how to use it ! So crimping it was …… 👍

[@constantineeliadis5582]

3DAM has now a retrofit kit to the existing cradle. Makes the XT plug and play, no wiring bits and bobs...

[@gsd32i]

Hi . Yes I’ve seen these. They make the zumo stick out and I just don’t like the look . But most will be ok with it , but not me ! I’m just different and it would annoy me 🙈 thanks for posting the comment 👍

[@constantineeliadis5582]

I see that however it provides some security for the $600 XT. Choice is good. How much does it stick out? Looks like the mounting bar of the cradle might rotate. around its bolts to ppush it towards the screen a bit perhaps? thanks again for this helpful info.

[@gsd32i]

@@constantineeliadis5582 Yup choices sometimes too many 🙈Use is most days with no issues and takes no time to pop in my pocket. ride safe and enjoy the weekend 👍

[@brents1643]

Great job

[@maurozoboli6544]

Great vid. I need to replace my navigator VI that doesn't work with a zumo xt. Thank you

[@gsd32i]

Thanks . Ride safe . I’ve found my zumo to be very good 👍

[@kristopherryanrides198]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioHMcqacibmBkKM

[@davidbaxter4678]

Hi Paul, I keep watching this video over and over as I am about to do the same to my GS. Can you please tell me the name of your windscreen? Is it a BMW screen?. TIA Regards David

[@gsd32i]

Yup it’s the BMW Rallye screen 👍

[@michaelneve3223]

First, fantastic video and very clear - thanks. So I’ve got the connected ride cradle and use the BMW app for navigation and I’m not happy. Currently has several faults which I can’t fix (they have corrected the speed limit info to MPH thank goodness). So I know this install is a job I can do if I’m patient and take my time plus the new XT2 (which I fancy) is 12v not 5v so no transformer box to stuff in the hole. Overall what is your view? I could use the Wunderlich adapter box to install the XT2 to the cradle but as you say the cradle is ugly and so is the Wunderlich box. Also makes taking the XT2 on and off more difficult… Would like to know what you think about the various options/costs and best solution. Thanks

[@gsd32i]

hi. I really do like the zumo . it’s not perfect but it works well( most of the time!) I simply remove it and pop it in my pocket. can’t be bothered with all that extra stuff to lock it in, unsightly for one. I am just testing a carpuride w702 that was sent to me by them . first impressions are very good…apple car play etc. will pop it on the gs and run it side by side for comparison. who knows I may take the sumo off and run with this Chinese unit.ride safe. 👍👍

[@imflako]

Hello its possible to cut the end of OEM support and use it on installation. On my country its difficult get the ebay cable.

[@gsd32i]

hi. I would say it is possible, just cut and connect the wires, making sure the +/- get connected the correct way.

[@mariuszjastak8406]

Great Video ThX a lot ;-)

[@raki2870]

thanks for the video but I have totally other question. What whinshield you have on GS? I assume wind noise is crazy in your helmet?

[@gsd32i]

Hi. It's the BMW Rallye screen. There is a bit more noise, but I wear a good set of earplugs on long trips.

[@raki2870]

@@gsd32i which ear sets you use? I have GS rally. I had sport windscreen, I upgraded to adventure windscreen with spoiler. Now thing maybe swapping it at all to rally one- more aggressive look and more visibility, better for gravel and such

[@DoodleRiderGSA]

Right I’ve had enough of the SatNav6 and I’ve decided to get the Garmin XT2, so you may get a few more views on this video, Paul. I’ve watched a few videos about the BMW Connected one, but a few people are moaning about it already. BMW should stick to Motorbikes. 👍

[@gsd32i]

Yup a good bit of kit 😂👍

[@ericboeckmans6]

Great video - I can only agree. I know that the Zumo won't work with the BMW wonderwheel but what about the data coming from the bike that you can display on the NAV VI screen? Thanks

[@gsd32i]

Nope, nothing, sadly.

[@roz6573]

Fantastic video. Clear, concise and to the point. Quick question : could one splice into the BMW cable to power not just the Garmin but a USB charger?

[@gsd32i]

Sadly i have no idea . Possibly with a y shaped splitter . I had that on my Africa Twin 👍

[@ryanmalone2681]

This is the hardest possible way to do this. Just take the easy route and use the existing power without modifying your bike (Wunderlinq, 3DMotorrard, etc).

[@gsd32i]

Its great that there are options, much prefer my way though.

[@juhairijjj8705]

Job well done Mate ...just need to know ....soo that's all ..after use or something ..no cover for the garmin after use ...cover or something ..just that...ok noted

[@gsd32i]

Yup no cover but has a screen protector .

[@1Witcomb]

Fantastic video. I'm planning on fitting an XT2 to my 1250GSA using a similar mount so this was perfect. Have you since fitted a locking kit to your mount for some added security? Cheers, Geoff

[@gsd32i]

Nope, if I leave it anywhere out of view I simply take it off and pop it in my pocket or into one of the top/side cases

[@cozydram1]

Hi chap thanks for the vid. may I ask what you did with the Garmin power connect after you took it of. and if you still have it would you be interested in selling it? please and thank you

[@gsd32i]

Hi Phil, I simply purchased a bmw plug that fitted into the existing harness located on the right hand side fairing, about £15. Works great. Sadly not for sale as will return to original when I sell the bike .👍

[@peterlewis4978]

Very neat installation and looks good, however, I would prefer a lockable mount, I have the Touratech mount from my last bike so will be using that. I also think by using the Touratech mount it adds some peace of mind that the XT is not going to come off!! I have heard of a couple of XT's coming off on rougher roads as the clip that secures it is not very strong? As you say, each to there own. Keep up the good work on the videos, you have another subscriber.

[@gsd32i]

cheers, have the standard zumo mount on both the bmw and Ktm 890r, never had an issue with security. Prefer the clean look. ride safe . Off to France Thursday with the BM for a bit of a thrashing now its run in. Fingers crossed the Zumo stays on 🤪 Have great weekend

[@kristopherryanrides198]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioHMcqacibmBkKM

[@littlefish4270]

Not trying to be critical but it is not lockable, better to simply mount the XT gps directly onto the 3d adaptor which mounts straight onto the oem mount, its powered up by the bike & is lockable.

[@gsd32i]

Like I said each to their own, I don't like the nav mounts/3d adaptor they look naff. my look is much cleaner . If I get off the bike for any length of time , whip the xt off and straight into pocket, simple . 👍

[@littlefish4270]

@@gsd32i, suppose you could do that but if you stop many times a day when you out on the road that is going to be a big hassle plus you run the risk of scratching or damaging the XT unit every time you remove it.

[@gsd32i]

@@littlefish4270 not been a problem so far . 👍

[@littlefish4270]

@@gsd32i , maybe one day it will & then you will appreciate.

[@littlefish4270]

@@gsd32i, The XT mount is lockable using the OEM lock setup, no need to take off until you wash bike because a little moisture can get behind when hosing directly,, mine stays on permanently virtually 👍

[@donnym2103]

Hi do you have a link for the power accessory cable please. Great video😊

[@gsd32i]

Hi, it's in the description box below. 👍

[@donnym2103]

@@gsd32i thanks. Loving you content

[@andreac.8560]

Hello. I need to find the positive of the high beam. I would like to connect Denali spotlights that only come on with high beam.can you help me? where can I find it? R1250gs 2022

[@gsd32i]

Hi, not sure. But if you put the new ezcan on then that would be easy to do,

[@andreac.8560]

@@gsd32i Surely with that or the cansmart Denali works. But I wanted to do it without additional control unit.

[@AMARILDOAAG]

Hello, very good video, it was perfect. if you can tell me the reason for having replaced the NAVIGATOR VI by the Zumo XT. were the controls on the left handle retained or lost? a hug and congratulations!

[@gsd32i]

Hi . I never had the nav 6. The zumo xt is very good. You cannot use the whizz wheel but that’s no big issue . Ride safe 😃

[@gillianbrodie6807]

Thanks for the interesting video. Have you thought about using a head torch when filming so you have both hands free, instead of a phone torch? 😊

[@gsd32i]

Thanks for the tip👍

[@user-vp4fe5eu9v]

Where can I buy the yellow cable

[@gsd32i]

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/393616891373 👍

[@Ed-lz4jv]

Nice video, I have a 2022 F750gs and already removed the Fugly BMW GPS unit from my handlebars, After the holidays I want to install the Garmin XT where you have it...Question where did you get that bar to mount the unit on? All I see on eBay is a much higher one. thanks

[@gsd32i]

Hi, I got my mount for the 12mm OEM BMW sat nav bar from uk e bay . Do a search on e bay for "Garmin Zumo XT Bar Mount 12mm " the seller is marmac 1353

[@kristopherryanrides198]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioHMcqacibmBkKM

[@kevinroberts2395]

So the Nav Wheel no longer has any control over the Garmin sat nav unit correct?

[@gsd32i]

yes correct. not a big issue for me to be honest. but each to their own as they say 😁

[@damianmoffat5056]

Hi. I’ve fitted my zumo the same way you have but can’t connect it via Bluetooth to the gs. I have my phone and helmet connect to the bike, but I loose that if I connect the zumo directly ti my helmet. How did you do yours?

[@gsd32i]

Basically you have a choice , connect to the gs or the zumo , cant do both . Well i dont think 🤔 u can !

[@JaySalvoUK]

Can I ask what sequence you have everything paired, I’ve just paired my headset( cardo) to the GS and then paired my phone to my GS but unsure how I can include my zumo without it messing everything up. Thanks Jay

[@gsd32i]

Hi jay, I use mine exactly as you have done as it allows me to use the whizz wheel for music and phone calls, I am not able to get text messages etc on the zumo now, but it gives me a stable set up and the zumo is now a sat nav device .

[@JaySalvoUK]

@@gsd32i many thanks👍

[@jaaus66]

Nice installation, but just a simple question. I guess the XT will turn off or at it least you get promted when turning ignition off? Or do it just go in battery mode? Really like this mount, and as you I also have looked on other mounts. Looks good and no hazel putting the XT in your pocket, like you do with a phone etc. when leaving the bike. Cheers.

[@gsd32i]

Yes it turns itself off. Just had to pop into my garage to check 🤪

[@jaaus66]

@@gsd32i Awesome, thank you for the quick response. Got my bmw connector couple of hours ago, and the simple 12mm bar mount from Touratech is on it¨s way. Again, thanks a lot . Cheers from Norway

[@thomasendavidavandoorn1323]

Hmmm. Mine doesn't turns itself off.

[@gsd32i]

@@thomasendavidavandoorn1323 when the ignition is turned off ? Does it stay on ? Is the charging symbol showing on the zumo ?

[@thomasendavidavandoorn1323]

I am sorry, I was not patient enough, it takes about a minute to turn off. On my previous bike it was instantly.

[@mitjapozar2725]

Just a question. Is there any reason you went this route instead of ordering Wunderlich GPS mount that goes into the OEM GPS navigation holder?

[@gsd32i]

Yes, simply I didn't like the look of the oem bmw mount or any of the other mounts.😀

[@mitjapozar2725]

@@gsd32i fair enough. personaly might got the other way since I do not like fiddling around with cables and stuff. not very handy myself :-)

[@kristopherryanrides198]

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[@stevehaddrell3193]

I've read on some posts that removing the oem mount reduces the annoying road noise coming up the tunnel past the forks. Did you notice this?

[@martyn_g]

If you take that off road, I wouldn’t trust the small mount to hold it on. I’d think you’d have to buy the Touratech Locking Cradle.

[@gsd32i]

Hi . Never had a problem with the xt mount but I don’t do off road ! Trails gravel etc wouldn’t be an issue . You could always throw a couple of zip ties around the whole think if you were going to some moto cross stuff though or buy that cumbersome looking cradle 👍ride safe 😃

[@kristopherryanrides198]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioHMcqacibmBkKM

[@gordonscott2838]

I did exactly this installation (same connection and cables) to my 2018 GSA, and since then my trip computer no longer shows MPG data - any ideas if this is caused by this install?

[@gsd32i]

Sorry Gordon, no. From memory you have power cables and a data cable, so by doing the install it should not effect the bikes data to the bikes clocks etc. Have you deselected something in the menu accidentally ?

[@gordonscott2838]

@@gsd32i thanks - I'm not aware that I've deselected anything :), sounds like I need a chat with my dealer. I have to say the installation is super neat and the XT is lovely to use.

[@gsd32i]

@@gordonscott2838 Yes its a bit strange .......the XT is pretty good , I have found that the base camp is ok but unless you use that programme everyday you will take ages how to remember to do routes etc. For me , the Scenic route planner app works brilliantly and I can export routes straight to the XT over a cup of coffee at breakfast before we set off.

[@mizunomp5916]

Hi where can you get the power connector from, it’s the yellow one that connects to the power supply plug.

[@gsd32i]

See the link on the description , it’s from a BMW e bay seller , £14.50. If no luck try Nippy Normans on line too .

[@imflako]

​@@gsd32i it's possible cut the end of OEM support and use it on installation. Its difficult get the ebay cable on my country.

[@ocanaldovaza]

check mine please, the motorcycle's key closes the gps

[@ocanaldovaza]

Good morning, I noticed that there is no key to close

[@gsd32i]

hi. correct. you just have to release it from the cradle . I simply put mine in my pocket if I am away from the bike . 😊

[@kristopherryanrides198]

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[@drewports22]

Can you still use the thumb wheel?

[@gsd32i]

Not for the zumo .

[@TheACE1300]

dont suppose you would sell me your sat nav cradle from the gs1250 by any chance

[@gsd32i]

Sadly not. 🙈

[@Jpson67]

But now GPS is not lockable

[@peak1416]

You can buy Wunderlich lock or tura tech one. I have got wunderlich lock, very neat and secure.

[@gsd32i]

Correct. Takes no time to put it in my pocket , if required. A simple zip tie on the button release will also keep it secure .