STARTING THE FAIRING PROCESS ON THIS OLD SAILBOAT!

[@tomharrell1954]

You have educated more people with FG repair than most technical schools. You will be known long after your gone. That’s a great epitaph and tribute to the best teacher on you tube.

[@pby1000]

Thomas D Harrell Now I get to learn the correct way of doing repairs.

[@michielderuyter6011]

That so true Thomas. I live in The Neterlands and did my boat 3 years ago and learnt the most from this channel. I had almost 20meters inside and outside.

[@mickfisch96]

Well said!

[@theoldbigmoose]

Andy inspired me to try a touch up on my fiberglass shower... materials on their way.

[@kaceandre7832]

Instablaster.

[@rickBW7753]

As always a very informative video. At 68 years old you've inspired me to attempt my 1st restoration project. I hope I haven't bitten off more than I can chew. I purchased a 1987 20 foot Boston Whaler Outrage this summer and I think I've managed to find a boat with every conceivable fiberglass defect known to man. Wish me luck. I think I'm going to need it.

[@pezpengy9308]

good luck! :)

[@allkindsaprojects]

i have done a few projects but Andy has inspired my current total rebuild - His videos have been invaluable. Shame we don't have TOTAL BOAT products in the UK. Boatworks today is the best channel on you tube for boaters.

[@firstmkb]

Where would the fun be in a boat that didn’t have every kind of crazy repair/modification known to man?

[@capitanschetttino8745]

In my opinion this is by far the best DIY boat repair channel on youtube but today I want to put my finger on one not so visible aspect: the production. Dude, the whole stuff (music, sound, lights, even the screenplay) is awesome. Really outstanding above average.

[@boatworkstoday]

Thank you Capitan ;-)! Appreciate that!

[@highlinercustomboats1816]

Filler gelcoat- to your 1 gallon of gelcoat with wax, add 1/3rd resin and a gallon container of microspheres. Catalyze a bit more than normal and roll on or 4" chip brush. Fairing with 80-120 grit will get you 99% there.

[@firstmkb]

Imagine for a minute I’m pretty ignorant - it isn’t a stretch. Can you toss out some specific product names? Thanks!

[@aperkinsvt]

Thanks Andy - I also use Total Fair and have been very happy with my results.

[@cycloneranger5354]

I used to watch "this old house" on the tv with my parents when I was young... This makes me happy, very reminiscent... Now that I'm looking for my first boat (I don't want a house lol) I feel more confident watching all your videos. Thank you.

[@amoebaart]

Thank you soooo much for your videos. I'm embarking on restoring/ refinishing a 14' K&C runabout and I have never done any boat restoration before. THANK YOU!

[@Hindukushsailing]

Trying to restore my 1965 Pearson Triton. So I am watching all your videos to learn some techniques and tips. The variety of epoxy or polyester etc choices still is a learning curve. As of now working on the interior finish of my boat and a slight reconfiguration of the interior. Thanks for posting all your videos and you provide us with very useful information.

[@gulfstream314]

about to paint a '69 '42 Chris Craft, thanks for your expertise!

[@TotalBoat]

Andy, great tip on using gelcoat with wax to cure the polyester laminating resin and fill in a little.

[@KennethStJohn-dr2mk]

Great video as always Andy - maybe a month too late for me :-( I've been working about a 2' x 2' repair on my liveaboard. Replaced the rotten plywood core, glassed over the top with epoxy resin and faired with total fair. Maybe should have used polyester. As you said - the gel coat over total fair doesn't set up. Not just tacky, comes off on whatever touches it. I cleaned up with acetone. Read up on gel coat over epoxy and watched your video on the subject. Tried it again with the same result. Then I googled gel coat over total fair! They don't mix. Today it is warm enough to go over everything with an epoxy barrier primer per the Total Boat instructions and then gel I'll coat. I've got a lot more little gel coat spots to repair (it's a 52 footer) and I'll be using a polyester filler for these.

[@joshking3295]

just wanted to say thanks. your friendly, informative and helpful videos are brilliant. I'm glad you chose to continue your channel.

[@paulhyde3056]

The formula for Total Fair has changed since this video was made. In the new version, the blue part is much thicker, more like playdough. There may be a slight green tinge on the surface but that's normal. If you add the right amount of yellow, it will mix to the same creamy smooth consistency.

[@doktorjonsson3860]

16:47 "It may steven" Might be the best abbreviation of "still even" I've ever heard!

[@robertrowse1028]

Love the fairing floats. We always used various diameters of PVC pipe depending on the curvature needed.

[@salpairadice]

you use a pvc pipe as a fairing float?

[@hotttt28]

love your videos ,the click and clack of boat refurbishment .

[@Charlie-u7j]

Thanks for sharing I’m building my First boat an Im starting the fairing. This was helpful 👍

[@BroncoED1972]

You're using paint instead of gel coat what is the reason? Also what made you to choose the CSM over what looks like the original hull?

[@DougsMessyGarage]

Andy, I think you have done this sort of job a time or two over the years. Either that or you are really great at editing to make it look so easy. Thanks for another great video.

[@georgel5308]

You are such a pro. Takes tons of skill to spread that nice. Great job and great content

[@jeffyonkus2149]

I'm my 3rd quart of the stuff. Love it. Use it for everything!!!!

[@danielcetan12]

Thank you Andy, you help me, so much.

[@fredellinger8392]

Love your videos. I have a 1965 17' Boston Whaler that has horrible crazing of the gelcoat. I it ground and a new layer of glass added. I don't need a factory restoration. I am kicking around two ideas, shoot with gelcoat or paint. It has been suggested that I lay gelcoat down like you did here. My question; If I chose to finish with gelcoat instead of paint, would I need to fair the boat or just shoot and sand gelcoat? Thanks!

[@danielcetan12]

Good humor in the start of this video

[@markboard3258]

Andy, another excellent video. Thank you. Intelligent life on you tube! Finally!

[@donpetrey8007]

Andy for equal parts I found I bought some cheap kitchen measuring cups and all I do is clean then when I’m done for the day.

[@leonkirszenbaum6603]

Great info. I am presently building my first 16 ft skiff and I find that I frequently view your videos for reference. Thank you.

[@rpascucci77]

Thats one way to do it. If I were to paint that I would have looked at an Epoxy Ultra or High build primer. It acts as a real thick gelcoat. For your project it looks pretty close as far as being faired. One of the issues I had run into with that is that it's so thick you need a key coat of primer under for it to bond. Spray key coat of say finish primer 30min flash spray ultra build, 45 min, one more coat and go have a bite to eat. I have done them both ways. Time frames and the ability to spray determines which way to go. It fairs real nice but don't let it sit for a few days otherwise its get rock hard. Looks good though.

[@mc2000Gmc]

Love your videos. Have you made a video on spraying gelcote? Ive looked at your past video's and have not found one. Thanks and keep up the great work

[@owenwilsey7896]

I asked a question than kept watching and got the answer. You are a genius

[@sirsteven2945]

Andy, thanks for another awesome video. If you would can you make a video of blister repair? If you already made one I’ve not found it yet. I believe a PO of my Aloha 32 used this green Total Fair to fill in the holes when they were attempting to repair some blisters. I’ve been told it just isn’t made for that and much of it came out with a pressure washer the first time I hauled out for the season. Thanks for all you do for us. From the top of the Chesapeake to ya...

[@outlawgentleman8860]

Man I couldn't thank you enough for sharing all your knowledge. I took on a boat rebuild project and you made it all so much easier.

[@captmiker7423]

Is it necessary to wet out the area first w/ a thin layer of epoxy to make the fairing compound bond better? Or will TotalFair bond to any sanded surface? Thanks for another great video!

[@boatworkstoday]

It's best to apply the fairing directly to a clean, sanded surface :-)

[@joshgilbert6560]

I'm curious about what you think of people using table top epoxy to do structural repairs? If you watch sailing uma it looks like they used table top epoxy to fix the ribs in the keel.

[@aldoacitelli]

Thanks for all the wisdom. I would have been interested in the before and after weight of the hull.

[@qlder2020]

hi what work time do you have b/4 it sets off .also love your work u explain and advise the dos and donts thanks

[@zacharywinters9413]

Well Andy you said it. Rum in the coffee it is!

[@sufferedenuf]

No Bailey's.. I learned to go straight to the Sheridan's. Best breakfast or anytime. Keeps me smiling when the wife is talking 😂.

[@sylvaingagnon3211]

Andy, can you share your ratio of gelcoat:mekp for this step? It’s a full quart and a surface that would make me stressed. Thanks man!

[@svdoinitright7519]

It seems like your longboard is digging in on the corners. Would rounding them help at all?

[@frankveroneau]

Hey, I’m confused I you use gelcoat and then you paint will you tell me the right way to do it

[@carmanrt13]

Andy, you opened the door when you referred to drywall. Understanding that wax is added to Gelcoat, to advance curing, couldn’t we assume that Gelcoat (without wax) would cure on the structure, but not the surface (thinking 50/50). Allowing us to add additional unwaxed coats, to build up before sanding. Just a thought, I defer to your judgement!

[@carmanrt13]

For clarification, I’m suggesting multiple chemical bonds before a wax coat followed by a mechanic bold. You thoughts?

[@bobadam7021]

I wish I had known about the TB compound not working at all with gelcoat before I started working with it. I made a real mess. It was so bad I ended up laying down a layer of epoxy resin over all of it and gelcoating over that. If that separates for some reason I'll either take it all back down and start over or paint. But it was very solid. Also, its a sunfish hull, so really just a practice piece.

[@redwood1957]

Am I correct you sanded and wipped down with acetone first before applying the total boat

[@tatlertom3090]

i have a keel sailboat that has gelcoat. I have NO IDEA what I'm doing to prep for new season. Is there a school or training program you recommend? I want to understand all of it. Materials, approaches, how to deal with midseason hull cleaning, fiberglass and gelcoat repairs. It's all so new and confusing. Any advice on schools? Thanks. GREAT videos.

[@tommcinerney4582]

Around 12:50, Andy mentions that if finishing with gelcoat then an epoxy fairing compound shouldn't be used, but I thought West System along with Andy a while back proved that was an old wive's tale kind of thing? So long as the amine blush is wiped away adhesion and curing gelcoat to epoxy shouldn't be an issue?

[@choimdachoim9491]

Seems like your flex-trowel's sharp corners should be slightly rounded like some plastering and stucco trowels which gives a non-ridged finish.

[@bobbeckstead8340]

Instead, of wax gelcoat, use fairing compound to level the fg surface. Sand it and apply a second, and, if needed, a third, coat of fairing compound, sanding between coats.

[@davidtornberg8060]

Could you fill small drilled holes with polyester and cabosil like you would do with expoxy? How about under the water line? Like on the speedometer pick up.

[@ThePerfectSeason1972]

Great work so far!

[@larrym55]

Andy, Bought your booklet a while back, but I can't seem to understand when to use polyester or epoxy. I use epoxy for all repairs. In this video you covered the bottom with polyester and sanded then put down fairing. Why not not just use fairing to begin with? Thanks for some king of explanation !

[@talleyrand2739]

first thing that came to mind was the children's tale of the OWL and Pussy cat that went to sea in a pea green boat now have a bit more knowledge to attack the one i have on a trailer waiting now for 4 years to replace the floor and do a couple of small cracks in the hull ,fingers crossed

[@maryfithen5006]

If I paint my dash with Alex seal and stop there,will I be able to pick up where I left off without having a noticeable line? Will it blend in ok

[@barryinkpen6026]

Outstanding! as always!

[@garyfroeschner2523]

always learn a lot from your videos

[@okcpicker]

Hi Andy. I've done some fairing on my cockpit sole with Total Boat two-part. Will I be able to apply Kiwi Grip non skid compound on top of that? Not sure if Kiwi is a polyester based product which might be problematic over the TB epoxy based compound. TB describes Kiwi Grip as a hard acrylic polymer. Thanks.

[@boatworkstoday]

You should be perfectly fine to apply overtop this fairing :-)

[@okcpicker]

@@boatworkstoday Thank you.

[@dogbone6315]

I’m in the process of a 70% record of my sailboat. I’m using kiwi grip and have been on the phone with their technical department. They say it works best over epoxy. I’m using epoxy fairing compound (I’m mixing it myself) over the whole boat and only using total boat where the paint will be. And I made that decision 5 minutes ago when Andy reminded me of the pinholes. Time to order total boat before I go further. And kiwi grip will go over pinholes.

[@dogbone6315]

Re-core. Not record

[@franklindmurphy]

Thank you for the fairing portion. Looking forward to the next video. This is what I requested awhile back. Takin notes! 📝

[@brianwright874]

What are those flexible compound spreaders called? The ones in your video that makes the gelcoat even and have a handle for both hands.

[@normankerr9948]

I like big boats and I cannot lie!!

[@ianherdis7438]

Hi. Andy if you did not use the Gelcoat to cure the surface how long would it be until you could sand. Days. Weeks. Months. ?

[@IgnatFi]

hi. For how long please did you leave the gelcoat before sanding it?

[@lancehenthorn17]

Andy I was just wondering. The other brands of fairing compound that can leave pin holes. What if you were to mix a batch up and place in a vacuum chamber before applying. Do you think it would help lesson the pin holes or maybe help eliminate the pin holes all together. What's your thoughts. Thanks

[@michaelblythe9739]

Hi Andy, I have the same size boat to fair, and I'm planning on using TotalBoat. Roughly how much fairing did you use on this boat?

[@simonallan6148]

Another great video Andy, thanks.

[@sylvaingagnon3211]

And also Andy, knowing the cost of total fair, couldn’t you just apply another layer of gelcoat? Even a slightly tinted gelcoat? If you paint, that is.

[@MakinEmAtNight26]

I’m just tryin to make the ol boat not sink, so after patching it up correctly what parts can I skip before paint? I don’t care how smooth it is.

[@ethankalicin6074]

Question what filter cartridges do you use for your respirator?

[@michaelspooren9213]

Hi Andy, I wonder why you take resin with wax when you use the dewaxer to remover the wax afterwards.

[@shrconstruction]

Wax gelcoat is so it cures correctly.....otherwise you'd have to cover non-waxed gelcoat with plastic to get it to cure correctly. So it's not quite what it sounds like.

[@pjorgerod522]

Hello Andy, thanks so much for sharing. It is the 1st time a truly understand how to do it from begin to the end a fiberglass project. So, thanks so much. I still kept one doubt. When you applied the gelcoat with wax to cure the polyester resin it is ok after sanding to see red surfaces? Are the red surfaces not to be hurt in the future because they were not cure with the gelcoat? Sorry for my ignorance. Kind regards, Paul

[@camcutcnc]

Hello Great video! Where do you purchase the two handed material spreader? Thanks!

[@thedoctor8381]

Its a flexisander product

[@mikefriend7570]

As always a great job. Really impressed with your working skills.

[@greggilbert9403]

I follow every one of your videos! Wish you were a little closer, like 1800 miles! LOL

[@chrisrancat2808]

I love the" total boat" fairing goo. I wanna try their regular epoxy products but iam a West system man and it's good shizzle. Someday.

[@1ocean515]

Thanks. Very informative! 👍

[@TotalBoat]

Thanks, Andy! Another great video packed with awesome info! You're a gem!

[@hotttt28]

love the videos ,Im restoring a navarro canoe . does your video on small sailboat apply to canoes ? very thin shell . held together by ribs glassed in and inner and outer ash gunwhales !

[@TheMorganMonroeShow]

Epic dude.

[@ArcticSeaCamel]

Thanks for the informative video! One question: should or could you thin the fairing compound just slightly? It seems to be bit hard to push on there. Especially when using big tools like flexisaders.

[@marknicholls5169]

I could have missed it but what’s the plan with the transom? Was it in good enough condition to just go direct with the paint?

[@MBicknell]

Great video makes me wanna buy a garage n set up a work shop

[@greggilbert9403]

Can I fiberglass over Total Boat fairing compound, I mean small holes and low spots?

[@perkoflushcaps]

Which Festool Sander are you using?

[@captainmike808]

Andy, I am ripping off my teak deck from my cheoy lee 38. Do you think a layer of chop strand and fairing will be enough to keep it structurally sound and stiff? Mahalo, Captain Mike.

[@jasonfasick7808]

This is the step I'm on in my boat kinda feels like we're doing it together

[@sunyun4425]

Is Fairing Compound to boats like Bondo for cars?

[@jimh.5286]

Did you ever consider the possibility that maybe your shoulder problems are due to not enough sanding?

[@davidbradley3074]

Great Video!

[@Frumundaair]

"Poo doo" I like it 🤣

[@jonathanhinkins6215]

Another good vlog Andy, stay safe from the uk

[@hebertcentrone6804]

Why the coat material contains wax? Thanks

[@TheCWCorp]

Do you ever use the Alexseal fillers? How do they compare?

[@HeikosGarage]

But what polyester fairing compound would you recommend that can be used below the water line? Thanks

[@Fiberglasser03]

Why wouldn't you use micro balloons and cab o sil then coat the hull with straight epoxy for filling pin holes? Seems like it would apply and sand much easier then that fairing compound.

[@2102Chris]

Very nice work m8

[@nordyfamily]

Great work

[@WreckDiver99]

What about using Xylene? Slower evaporation rate, about $20/gal. When I had my boat, that's what all the people doing glass work would use. They said "half the price of prep, slower evap rate, and essentially the same stuff". They do use Acetone when they do small areas that they want the ultra fast flash off of Acetone.

[@0718dm]

I use alcohol when ever I can. I stay as far away for acetone as possible.

[@ascott6804]

22:45. Thats why my wife wants a boat!! The "Overall lean!" Lol!! I see ya now man!! Edit: i have to comment how that green was a perfect match!!

[@Starboatbuilder]

Hi What type of roller are you using? The coating looks a little running - is this the right thinness?

[@chefunojr]

Hello Andy hope you having a good time. This is Big Knucklehead from Miami Florida. I just finished your recent video and notice that you said if we using that type of fairing compound we should not use gelcoat afterwards. Well, I made that mistake. I used that product when you first introduced a quite some time ago. As you stated my gelcoat did not fully cure at that time. What I would like to know is how can I fix this error. Do I need to sand everything back down to the original fiberglass and try to remove as much of the fairing compound as possible or is there another way. This was a repair that I was doing on the boat.

[@pezpengy9308]

bantha poodoo? one heck of a nerd reference... congratulations! didnt suspect you had it in you!

[@tomw1819]

Avacodo green!