Can Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness Be Fixed?

[@PeterConnellyMusic]

It's premature release had nothing to do with tying in with the second TR movie. That might've been something that was said to hide the truth but, ultimately, Eidos would've went into liquidation had AOD not been released when it was. Had they went into receivership, it's likely that AOD would never had seen the light of day so, essentially, AOD saved Eidos for a little longer. As a developer, it hurt us to see it released before it was ready. I've worked in games for almost 30 years now and it's the last 3-6 months in which everything starts coming together so, had we been given this time, this is when it would've been refined to perfection. Kudos to EVERYONE who loves it and patched it to be what it should've been. The bottom line is, it was all business and politics.

[@Bobthepetferret]

Oh hey, I recognise your name, it's awesome to get a comment from the actual Peter Connelly! Thank you for this extra insight. I figured there were business shenanigans behind the scenes but clearly got incorrect info about what they actually looked like. It's a real shame you guys never got to bring the game to its full potential (although your score was excellent!)

[@KoldoIglesias]

Peter, what the Core Design team created with AOD transcends bugs and failures. There are many people who have loved it since 2003 (more than 20 years!) and we will be eternally grateful for your work. You have influenced me when creating music and for that I will always be grateful. Hopefully one day justice will be served and AOD's original story will be finalized. I know it's almost impossible, but the TR community has shown many times how restless and creative it is. Thanks Peter (and Martin too)

[@PeterConnellyMusic]

@@KoldoIglesias Thank you. I 100% believe it gets to where it needs to be.

[@RTU130]

👍

[@__Xeese]

People who patch older games to improve the vanilla experience are heroes, honestly.

[@Bobthepetferret]

Oh hell yeah. All the respect in the world for them. I wouldn't even know where to start!

[@frameripperz8794]

It’s why I never played on anything but a pc. The mods made by a community bean keep a game alive like mine craft or GTA or fix it like Doom3 before BFG

[@frankieseward8667]

Yes they are.

[@CrimRui]

It's one of my favorite games. The levels, the atmosphere, the music and the visual of Lara is something that resonated with me. Played it on PS2 and loved it. Really wish they made a sequel or Remake of it.

[@idotgotitme3280]

It was supposed to be a trilogy, but because of the mishaps with the first part, they were shut down and never got to finish it, kind of leaving people hanging after Lara walking out with Kurtis' weapon.

[@thelastblackmage]

Best music by far, and I really loved it even though the controls were so clunky. Lets hope with the new remastered trilogy they might want to go here.

[@princesssnowwhitenew3338]

finally someone that sees AoD for what it is really :)

[@Cshepard]

unfortunally youre biased. like i was. its no doubt the worst game of the franchise. but there surelly is some magic there. if only they had the time...

[@Thatirishbuck]

You're wish came true! Coming next year :) and it will be playable!

[@vallennes]

I've loved this game since release. I just love emo lara. I love the murder mystery. I love the music and atmosphere. I love the dark tone. It hurts my heart when people don't like this game but everyone is owed their opinions. I would give my soul for a sequel to this game.

[@LolaCroft]

Emo Lara is the definition I was looking for, thanks. I believe there's a bunch of people out there (included me) who would easily sell their grandparents to get a remake of this game. Parents for the sequel.

[@DieGlatze95]

The does not Work! Tried to Play it on PS2 and i had a Bug where i could not open the cabinet 😢

[@nadaqasem99]

I really wish if this game took more time in development so it can be a masterpiece

[@TombRaiderExplorer]

I'm replaying The Angel of Darkness right now and it's insane how fans have upgraded the game.

[@Bobthepetferret]

I was genuinely impressed. Just the moment of realisation when I got to the block puzzle in Bouchard's Hideout and was like "wait, last time I did this it took me several sessions to get here, but here I am only an hour in this time". That was huge

[@TombRaiderExplorer]

@@Bobthepetferret Have you played the Ps2 version of the game? I think is better than the Pc version.

[@Bobthepetferret]

My original issues with the game stemmed from playing the PS2 version that I show off in the intro of this very video :p

[@viktoriyarts]

AOD is a guilt-tripping dream in Von Croy’s head, that’s why it’s buggy 😅

[@greydeleon5730]

the mona lisa’s face is peter connelly - an easter egg lol

[@Bobthepetferret]

Yep! The composer himself! I couldn't think of a way to put that into the video directly so thanks for providing that fact for everyone who might not have known!

[@PeterConnellyMusic]

Never ever thought that, when I jokingly emailed that photoshopped photo to Andrea Cordella, he would actually use it, lol. I genuinely didn’t know he had until about a decade later (proud moment) 😎

[@UberBunneh]

Lara: "We're not in the same class" Me: "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!"

[@Bobthepetferret]

You'll be pleased to know that I agonised over using the rap battle meme there. Decided against it because it felt a little out of place, but I did think about it

[@idotgotitme3280]

Love it 👍

[@vallennes]

"He had to get to warped tour to play bass for his band" HAHAHHA I love Kurtis but this killed me.

[@Bobthepetferret]

If he appeared more often in the game, this video would have been full of those jokes

[@scribble71891]

6:22 I didn't realize how much of a burn that was until I got older lmao. Lara definitely had some savage moments in this game.

[@JuliannaMarieL]

Besides #2, Aod is my favorite. I have such a nostalgia remembering holding the box for the first time, wondering what it would be like, the music, the dialog, the storyline. I was in love. I know it was buggy and had its problems but I was able to love it through that

[@princeoffriendship]

It's exciting that the remastered version is coming out! It's the perfect chance to fix all the issues and bugs and polish it perfectly. I don't think they will add deleted levels in it. since it wont be truthful to the original nostalgic game although, I think they will include separated additional levels just like what they did with 1-2-3 remastered (Unfinished Business, Golden Mask, The Lost Artifact). If the concepts are kept, it can be done and it should be just as much as it needs to be. That way it won't interfere heavily with the storyline within the game but rather fill the plot holes. 4th game has an extra level (The Times), they could do one for the 5th as well and for the 6th 🤩

[@NXDL25]

14:31 There is a short tutorial for crawling that was scrapped. The door in the first level right at the start after you pass that dog was supposed to open, and if you keep going you'll find a small garden where you have to crawl and lara has lines that will play there.

[@Bobthepetferret]

That would be useful if it was actually accessible in the game!

[@NXDL25]

@@Bobthepetferret You can glitch through that door. Watch any speedrun with glitches they'll show you how to do it right at the start. Obviously it's not meant to be accessed, but the lara soundbites are there.

[@Archy112]

I find the game to be amazing at the time, great music, puzzle solving in a way that u had 3/4 ways to finish the game, since it had inbuilt shortcuts - while not abusing glitches or bugs speeders do

[@davisho9137]

The fans released Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness - Difinitive Edition TODAY with restored content and improved gameplay.

[@jenn82armstrong]

I stopped playing around in the greenhouse area. I think it was the contols that did me in for me. I felt like she was too blocky to maneuver around, and the glitches were too much.

[@novelezra]

God this game is absolutely gorgeous. It has that "Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines" look to the lighting that was so popular back and that Prague ambience is just unmatched.

[@musikrausch2675]

I actually enjoyed the vanilla version of the game back then. Played it on PC when it came out. And it being the first Tomb Raider game I played that wasn't a demo made it feel pretty special. I honestly didn't realize that it had bad controls for the whole playthrough although I despise tank controls and the likes today. Back then I just roled with it and simply didn't get the frustration that comes along with clunky controls. The ghost boss above the hall of seasons is actually very simple. And yeah. 😂 Boaz is incredibly hard. I think it took me around 200 tries to get past that one. Today I would probably get another opinion of the game. But as it is I feel nostalgic of the first playthrough and remember it as a nice, thrilling experience. The mystery around Eckhard's glove, Curtises Powers and the various environments along with the soundtravk as well as characters like Buchard were very engaging. So I understand when people say, they liked it and even if it's their favourite entry of the series.

[@lisipoofly]

It's unfortunately a casualty of the time, Eidos (and I imagine most other gaming companies) expected similar turn over times to ps1 games and it simply wasn't possible. I used to blame Eidos for being so harsh on core dropping them like a sack of bricks, but I understand now that this was new ground for everyone involved. I love AoD, I think I would love to see a remaster of last revelation and chronicles and then a complete remake for AoD, it really deserves it.

[@UrQuietGamer]

Your wish has been granted 😂

[@LolaCroft]

How can you not love Kurtis Trent? We all love him BECAUSE he is 2003's incarnation. 😂❤

[@bryanmoynihan2480]

Played through the original 6 games for the First time this past Fall and this one is tied with The Last Revelation as my Favorite of the original 6. Playing through this one again with the most recent Restoration Project Mod (Includes a lot of patches and is simple to install) and trying out their new custom LAU control Scheme and I think it might be ugraded to my favorite game of the series afterwards. Also just so you know their is a button to switch Targets (in the original), though for some reason it is the same as the roll and more often than not you roll instead of switching targets.

[@Yeshua-gb5nk]

Nice to know the game has been improved a lot by fan patch, it's one of the few Tomb Raider I haven't played yet. Hopefully a potential remaster would include similar fix.

[@YunomiWraith]

played it on ps2 and won in like 2008, still my favorite in the series. I remember the bad controls but still, Murti Scofield's writing is top notch

[@REACTIONGAMING100]

A couple of things :) this is a great video detailing a lot of very real short comings but having finnished this game more than once unpatched and now a few times with patches I can say there’s a few things you’re missing!! First in the archeological dig sit you mentioned a wall that goes to no where but I believe that wall climbs to a ledge and you and climb on the rock bridge underneath:)! There is also a switch targets feature as well and this got me on my first couple play throughs it wasn’t until I consulted my original manual for the game that realized triangle or Y on an Xbox remote is the switch targets button. Flicking the right stick is much more intuitive or really any other button but even with the lack of tutorial there is a switch target feature which makes the boaz bosss fight able to be finnished in just a few minutes especially with control patches

[@REACTIONGAMING100]

I’m sure your experience with this game is over but I highly recommend replaying with the restoration mod 1.4.0 patches installed it brings back a ton of cut content and the controls are even better with a port of legend,anniversary and underworld responsiveness

[@jussikuusela7345]

I remember playing the game with the minimum somewhat capable system... Stella warned that it is resource intense. I had an old Athlon 1200 MHz, the cheapest AGP 3D card of 2003, I no longer remember the brand... it barely ran in a tolerable resolution and framerate. I thought perhaps the controls are sticky and tardy because of my cheap ass computer, but it turned out that getting much newer gear only really improved the res and FR. I still haven't figured out if there is any way to skip the tutorial level, in which you can't save, and have to "redo from start" if Lara manages to get unalived, and which you had to do at the speed of the instructor. When fairly early in the game fusing an explosive... Lara starts off like a cow from the marsh when she should be absconding already with mad abandon - at least I never figured out how to get her on the move very quick. Level 6 IIRC had this underwater part that got very frustrating. The patch available for my second playthrough didn't help much, so again I resorted to Stella's savegames. Which BTW are in this game more difficult to manipulate than earlier or later (IMFHO). And yes, Lara sticks to every corner, especially underwater, and especially running upstairs, easily does a full pirouette when trying to turn slightly. Whether or not it is now patchable, I think it needs a rework... maybe in the Anniversary style controls.

[@Aleksandr017]

Perhaps it will be helpful if anybody decides to play TRAoD - the END (roll) key switches targets when you have your gun out. You can switch targets, it’s just that the game completely forgot to inform the players about it.

[@jestercarnage4637]

TR angel of darkness restoration mod. this mod is basically the entire game ramstered with a ton of restored content. every bug damn near squashed and its as simple as copy pasting 2 folders into the steam version game folder. your welcome.

[@RexPhalange]

I’m one of those who love this game and consider it one of the best TR games, and I've played it more than any other TR games. I played it on PS2 without any patches. I was young when I first tried it, so I guess I didn’t know better at the time? Lol. I got used to the control and since it was the first TR I played using a controller, I thought that was just how TR games were supposed to be on PS (I played the previous TRs on PC with keyboards). And I was fortunate enough to not encounter any game-breaking bugs in any of my playthroughs. It was also a time before I could get easy access to the internet, so I was unaware of this game’s poor reputation. If I play it again now, my muscle memory would kick in and I would adjust to the janky controls in no time. But I can understand how people would have a hard time with it.

[@dragtogo2735]

19:18 Boaz boss you have to press 🔲 button to switch targets and the PS2 manual never explains that crucial detail at all. Yeah I remember that fight and it sucked because who knew there was a button to switch Targets. I mean TR-TRC never had that feature. This is why it blinded so many players till they figure out it was square button that switches targets. However I do not know the PC version so your guess is better then mine on that one.

[@tacticaljunk1608]

I think Lara doesn't usually take an air tank because she is an adrenaline junkie and doing stuff underwater while holding her breath makes her feel cool.

[@ee-co4264]

Tbh I wish they would leave LAU and Survivor Lara behind and remake this game and continue this classic Lara and do individual stories that don’t revolve around her personality or family

[@adamcichon6957]

Out of curiousity i wached full playthrough of AoD... and had a major déjà vu... I'm pretty much sure, that many of Lara's animations from AoD was copy/pasted into the Legend. Some got tweaked, speed adjusted, but i was surprised to discover there's actual connection between Core's and Crystal's LAU builds. I wouldn't be surprised if one of Core's ideas was to add a support crew speaking with Lara via headset.

[@A2theC]

Literally one of the most annoying things from the LAU series, constant headset chatter. I have a mod to make them quiet and it helps better enjoy the game and problem solving.

[@loopylocks7746]

I adored this game! It’s my favourite as well as Chronicles

[@JediCore]

Some not so long time ago I have decided to play all mainline Tomb Raider games. Recently i have finished The Angel of Darkness and I can definitely see why people hated that game. The controls were terrible, the story does not make sense or is plain stupid at times, the voice delivery with certain lines is just plain. I liked the characters and character design, but that one cutsence with Kurtis groping Lara while trying to disarm her was weird and creepy. I personally loved his design though. Maybe because it's exactly how I dressed back then. I've played the game on PC with mods and after settling with Tank controls I must say that the game was actually fairly enjoyable. The bosses were a piece of piss, beside the ghost as I had no idea what to do there and the bug monster thing was annoying until I remembered that there is a button for target switching. I played with mouse and keyboard and all I had to do was tap a key to target switch. The biggest critic I had since 3 was convoluted and terrible level design. It was difficult to figure out where to go or what to do next. The Angel of Darkness didn't have that issue, at least for me. You said that he's mean for everyone for no reason. Lara seemed a lot more rude to most people she talked to than Kurtis 😂 As for prone crawling maybe it's the patches I used, but the game did tell me about that mechanic. I can't remember when that was, but I feel like it was before the assassin levels. It's definitely an underused mechanic. I think I used it maybe 3 times throughout the game? The jumping level where you had issues. I've done those jumps with no issues 10 times before realising that it's a lever timed thing that I had to do. In the end, I enjoyed it. After finishing the game, I moved onto the next title, Legend and I am struggling to play through that. You can say that I enjoyed The Angel of Darkness more than Legend

[@douglasbriel6103]

On my PS2, I only got to that circular room. I had beaten every previous game and expansion pack.

[@Lunariant]

Somehow I enjoyed this game on release. I could never get to grips with tank controls on the PS1, so believe it or not this game was an improvement for me. But good grief I died and reloaded again and again and again. Still, this game intrigued me and gripped me with its atmosphere and music. I'm happy to see that the game is a bit more playable today.

[@L0n3W0lfBl4ck]

I was so excited for this game back in the day, and it was the first time I played a game that was so buggy that it literally crashed or broke game play. While I did finish it and I still own it, I haven’t played it since.

[@bvggamer3707]

sashos patch in combination with the reborninshadows mod completely removes tank controls and makes animations more fluid and customizable

[@The92Waffles]

I hope patches can fix it. I got AoD recently though I'm not ready to play it yet, but I tried launching it to faff around a bit and the game crashes on the main menu. So not a good start for me, but when the time comes I will look into how to fix the jank

[@peterdaskinhead]

The Tomb Raider Community is incredible

[@OSuKaRuTV1]

19:17 That's my trauma with this game. So long i dont play and i still remember the plain frustration of that episode. In that boss fight i actually though the developers hate us and want us to suffer a big deal.

[@SykoSilver]

Can you make a video discussing the recently announced remasters and a breakdown of your wishes and expectations?

[@Bobthepetferret]

It will be me saying "oh hey that's neat, hope they fix Angel of Darkness" and literally nothing else, so no

[@kwiiin_]

TR: AoD is missing 85% of its content. Now imagine how much richer the game would have been had they added Schofield's notes which can be grabbed for free on his website. It's a shame what happened to AoD and the controls were never my problem. I played this game 12 years ago on a laptop with a touchpad and no mouse. I remember not getting much from the story but loving it dearly- until I revisited it a year ago. I love Tomb Raider and hate the new games with a whiny Lara, who loves kids, is such a mommy-type of character, has no sass and lost all her taughness. TR:AoD has hands down the best story I've seen in a TR game and in all the games I've played it only cannot compete with BioShock. Highly encourage you to pick up Murti's notes, there is so much more out there. :)

[@Bobthepetferret]

I'm sure those notes add a lot of context, but if it's not in the game, I can't judge the game's story on the basis of that. My critiques come from what is there, not what could have been in there.

[@kwiiin_]

@@Bobthepetferret Yeah you can't read the dev's minds and I find it so frustrating that most people playing AoD will never know how it was intended with all the intention still being online to look up. I'm glad the fan patches made this gampley desastre a bit more endurable, you need a lot of patience and dedication to finish the vanilla. My hope is out there that peopel wil take a glimpse into the notesand start loving this game and its vision, it didn't deserve to die on a trashfire like the movie deservably did. Glad you gave it another try, it has a fanbase to this day that even makes music (like thatnorskchick2 here on KZbin). :D You're welcome to join the TR AoD gang any day!

[@KingSora37]

I swear I’m playing this game again right now. I’m 32 now and I remember renting it from a video store when I was younger and gave up pretty much as soon as I started. And I also noticed that you can save at any point during the game, I feel like the Devs just KNEW people would die a lot. 😹😹😹

[@videogamenostalgia]

Angel of Darkness has its moments (notably the incredible soundtrack and great atmosphere) but is plagued with some really bad fundamental design decisions. From Chronicles onwards (albeit TRIII and IV also do it to an extent) the devs kept introducing new mechanics that almost take it into different genres, and none of them are as good as the regular action/exploration. A Tomb Raider game should not begin with a disproportionately long time having 'point and click adventure game' style branching conversations with ugly, unnecessarily hostile npcs. Patching the controls is appreciated but is only the tip of the iceberg: the story has massive gaps in it, most levels are too short, the secondary protagonist is badly-conceived, the RPG mechanics are laughable and there's only one tomb in the entire thing. I don't doubt that the devs were making a sincere effort to create something good, and I understand that they weren't given enough time, but there are serious problems with it beyond the terrible controls.

[@Bobthepetferret]

Definitely, as I mention throughout the video. Even with fixes, there are still fundamental flaws baked into the design of the game that are the result of shoving every idea they had in there without much clear focus. Which is a real shame

[@EthenGreen-i5k]

And that is the frustrating thing about this game. Graphically it looked incredible but it was the controls that killed this game. All the developers had to do was include controller support for the game and that would have solved the control problem with the game. Thank god for fan patches. Great video man well done.

[@Savage2554]

The level where she planted the explosives and she smelled gas. There’s dialogue where she says “dive girl, dive” after she planted the bomb. Was that dialogue not there?

[@Bobthepetferret]

It was, but since I'd already convinced myself the liquid was gasoline, it simply confused things rather than helped

[@nick.p.9328]

@@Bobthepetferret I’m not sure what the liquid was but I remember if you stayed too long in it after the explosion, it gets contaminated and you die

[@brandonlrushman2870]

Angel of darkness “Tomb Raider” deserves not only a remaster, but a full on AOD trilogy reboot! It needs to be remade with it being rewritten to extend the story and gameplay into three games that make it longer, cooler, scarier, far more harder and complex while keeping the original into it! Give the story more stability and make more sense. ❤️

[@Larry]

I remember picking up Angel of Darkness from CEX about three weeks after launch for a tenner, they had a ton of them too. So I had an inkling it was either a really short game, or a really bad one. Have you ever looked into wall breaking the game too? Like there's a whole unused tutorial section behind a locked door Etc.

[@Bobthepetferret]

I did hear something about the hidden tutorial in passing, but it took me enough time getting these patches installed, so I don't know if I'd do well at trying to wallhack too!

[@d0nKsTaH]

The game cam be fixed imho. There was a LOT that was cut from it to shorten it up for both PS2 and PC. Kinda like how Alien Isolation's story was edited down... (In A.I... they changed the story to have Amanda take an Ambulance shuttle to the Anesidora... creating a plot hole in a way). In the original part of that game.. Marlowe, tries to blow up the reactor of the Station and partly succeeds... Like that game... AoD had a different path and ending... they made a huge detour... I think the player was supposed to play as the guy for another boss fight or something... Either way they left some huge level out and parts of two others. If they ever can add those back in... correct a few bugs... they can re-release it as an "uncut version" and roll the dice to see if it hits. They would most definitely have to fix some controller issues (the most complained about bugs) as a selling point and not just the "full story" as the selling point.

[@johnm9384]

I remember that very cutscene in the fire room. I tried about 50 times and ultimately *did* make it across before the fire wave killed me, but my God if I knew how it was actually meant to be played I could have saved a *lot* of stress 😂

[@Bobthepetferret]

Oh good, it's not just me then, it is the game's fault

[@goodnightale]

not to be antagonistic but these patches do so much more than "just fixing the controls a bit". you didnt touch on any of the content improvement, the graphical overhauls, the tweaks in resource management...

[@just_Lee2]

I downloaded some patch/mod from Nexus which changed thing quite drastically, for example: you don't find a gun randomly in first 3 levels, instead you must buy it in pawnshop I find that quite clever and neat. So far I'm at the Serpent Rouge, so I don't know yet what else changed with that patch p.s. the patch/mod is 4.2 GB large

[@danielsaan1749]

If eidos never disappeared, maybe we would have our next installment in the Legacy of Kain series...

[@tombplayer6911]

Well this great game is being remastered!!!

[@SkyStream-lu4jk]

Guys, whatever your thoughts are on this game, just don't hate it for the good things that it has. Good story, good music, the vibe is awesome, Lara looks her best. The voice actress of Lara is just 11/10. Blame Eidos for the state of the game, not Core Design. All in all, this is a fantastic game but the gameplay is sadly stiff

[@douglasbriel6103]

On my PS2 I made it to the beginning of the sanitarium before I tapped out. I didn't realize how far I made it.

[@elletrent9735]

Played it back in 2004 on ps2 and apart from the different controls from previous games that I had to get used to for a level or two, I didn't have such intense problems and I instantly loved it. I will never understand how I have such different memory and experience from other people. Then again I've seen on comments people saying it was really buggy on pc, maybe it's that.

[@Bobthepetferret]

Oh no, the problems were definitely there on PS2, which is where I played it originally. I even attempted to replay it a few years ago and quit shortly after the nightclub because it was frustrating me so much. I have no idea how you didn't have any issues to be honest.

[@elletrent9735]

@@Bobthepetferret I did have issues with the weird controls, I just got used to it after a couple of levels. Throughout the game for example I would fall from a jump that I didn't intend to jump so far but that is not something that I hadn't experienced on previous TR, it would just happen slightly more often on aod. Other than that it wasn't as frustrating as some people make it out to be. I'm actually replaying it now, and it's really ok. But people experience the same things differently, maybe it's that.

[@Skylerjones624]

Angel Of Darkness has the best soundtrack of any TR game Edit: 2025 we are ment to be getting a remaster of this game

[@boredstudent]

It's a shame that Core Design Ltd didn't get the time they needed to make the game what it should have been. Maybe the camera wouldn't have been a complete pig as Jeremy Heath-Smith stated

[@McGilm342]

for the boaz fight, you CAN switch targets by pressing the roll button this doesnt really improve it tho, since kurtis actively ignores you or switches back 70% of the time

[@JulioCesar-rk7mb]

Guys, I have a problem with the mod. Even with the headphone sound output, the sound comes out through the speaker. And even trying to change the options, it won't. How do I resolve this? Anyone had the same problem?

[@ozzman123]

Wish the developer would embrace the modding community for this game and make these fixes official. It would help finish the game for the fans that do absolutely love this game, like myself 😊❤

[@rodolfohernandez4009]

I feel like that guy should had have his own trilogy and the should only brought them both together when they had figured. them both out more

[@LeDarkness1]

We love Kurtis FOR those reasons 😂. I was totally shipping him and Lara!

[@lukasgossweiler2385]

How can I Download patches to work TR AOD on Windows 11? I figure out with TR4 and 5, but with AOD i still dont know. Even in compatibility mode for older Windows like Win XP it doesnt start the game. Can someone help with patches and fixes?

[@BpzBlinkk]

someone's already remaking tr aod.. it looks pretty good.

[@TheDoctorOfThrills]

Yeah I don't know what it was about the earth stage, it always crashes to desktop. It completely stalled my last playthrough

[@CrashWeezerman]

I'm curious if you've ever revisited this game with the Definitive Edition mod? If so, does it make any further improvements on the game, or is it just a compilation of the pre-existing patches?

[@Bobthepetferret]

I honestly have no idea about the Definitive Edition mod to be honest

[@darkestfugue]

you did better than me, despite the reviews being bad i bought the game on the ps2 when it came out because i was a die hard tomb raider fan, i abandoned it pretty quick though, i was just like, i cant play this, the original game is still the best for me, 2 is a worthy sequel, i had a good time with legend and i enjoyed the 2013 reboot, the rest of them for me were all pretty forgettable

[@Bobthepetferret]

I honestly don't know how I beat it originally. Can't have been "I was a kid and had loads of free time" because I would have been just about to go to uni when it came out

[@iwannaseethereceipts]

The environments, music and overall vibes were just unmatched, if only lesser to TR1. I also think I played it so many times that I got used to the controls. There's also something to be said for the meta-mystery of what the full story was. I remember listening to unused audio files on KZbin late at night. Combing through what could have been adds to the mystique in some ways. Like there's always something lurking beneath the surface, much like the game's actual story.

[@rodolfohernandez4009]

As cool as it may be. Wouldn't you rather have it rebuilt frome the ground up and finish the trilogy. And also can the TR1,2,3,LR,CHRONICLES be remade in the AngelOfDarkness engine.

[@Bobthepetferret]

Ideally a remake would be the best option but until we get that, this is the next best thing

[@SuperHitman55]

The best game in the franchise to me.

[@nightfloral5010]

Im playing tomb raider angel of darkness right now without any patches and it is frustrating at the very least

[@milkdetrop5506]

man people sure overblow this game i got into the series recently i beat the first game and then i tried all the other ones in the ps1 and i couldnt keep going on them they are good but i just wasnt having fun then i tried angel of darkness on ps2 and i had alot of fun its so weird to me people completely hate it when the old ones also have controls that are really hard to get into but they dont give it the time to get used to how this one controls

[@mydadspulloutgametrash]

Wait. Your PS2 save was the level after the bug. Do you beat the bug on PS2 with worse controls???

[@Bobthepetferret]

Apparently. Don't ask me how! Because I don't know!

[@trafikantes4204]

Of course it can. But I think players that fixes this game should focus on improving a movement and steering in this game, 'cause it's painful af

[@luigipio557]

As a kid i loved this game and still love it, and i still think that lara died when core left, since the only good game of kristal dynamics that i liked was the remastered/remake of the first episode. It's a shame that they wanna cash grab on the original core games now, without even do a proper remake of the second one, because KD still show that trash new lara that is now a lame copy of uncharted, game that copied a good chunk from the original serie. Also i think they re-used some ideas of the planed trylogy of AoD to do some of the lasts episodes i think...

[@user-xu2pi6vx7o]

As we speak, there is someone working to port this game into unreal engine 5.

[@douglasbriel6103]

I really didn't understand why they added this guy to the game.

[@idotgotitme3280]

The storyline was actually more about him, because he was the last Lux Veritatis warrior, going after Eckhardt after he killed Kurtis' father. Lara just happened to get caught up in it all, because her mentor got mixed up with Eckhardt, then wanted her help. Plus I think they were trying out a new idea to be able to play more than one character.

[@douglasbriel6103]

@@idotgotitme3280 Thanks. It's been a very long time.

[@idotgotitme3280]

@@douglasbriel6103 No problem 😊

[@cherifgrib]

I hope they removed that awful " i feel much stronger now" mechanic Lara is supposed to be strong acrobatic and agile from the get go

[@annapierce8666]

This game is frustrating because the controls are broken. Imagine your a Tombraider Master Player and Lara does exactly what you ask her to do. {any Tombraider game before AOD} "Lara run down the corridor while dodging the swinging spiked traps then bounce off a slope, do an inverted flip in midair, then outstretch your body with hands at the ready and grab the lip of the ledge above the Lava and pull yourself up to safety" {Now play AOD} "I can't get Lara to jump up onto a crate or climb a ladder..." *Shit* ... 💃

[@Awesomepuma2]

Maybe you will enjoy the remaster more, because i heard that they will fix everything AND include deleted content that was scrapped last minute.

[@Bobthepetferret]

Source on the deleted content?

[@Awesomepuma2]

@@Bobthepetferret I can't remember where, but I did hear that this was true from a trusted youtuber who makes a lot of TR video essays

[@Bobthepetferret]

@@Awesomepuma2 Unless I hear it from an official source, it's a rumour that I assume to be untrue, sorry

[@pchtommy1268]

There's an leaked achievement for obtaining the dual pistols

[@jd2792]

​@@Bobthepetferretthere is leaked achivment that hint towarss being able to shoot on corners and have dual pistols

[@retropcscotland4645]

I've beat this game 3x.

[@Hamaci-e9s]

I'm gameplay for steam deck not items title please answer 🙏

[@elrichklopper6207]

AOD had so much pottential..

[@slowedvsbattle]

you can't fix what is already perfect

[@Bobthepetferret]

A statement which absolutely does not apply to The Angel of Darkness and its many, MANY issues, but sure!

[@arthurthewarlock1457]

TRAOD: good story, good premisse, excellent Lara, but poorly/badly executed

[@r6iqmain498]

It’s fine for me till boaz returns with those glitchy auto aim

[@douglasbriel6103]

Broken camera. The story was fine. Can't patch my playstation.

[@artamik]

The only right way to play the game is still ps2, the control is the only suitable and NOT tank, which is completely unsuitable for this game, and on PC there is no way to activate ps2 control

[@CaseyRhodes-h2m]

🎉i had it on PC back in the day loved it still do now the PS2 version is shite honestly 🎉

[@frogradar]

People who say this game is the best are... "contrarian" to say the least. The fact is, the love the vibes and "what could have been". The game itself you cannot love as a "best TR game" because it is, to it's core, broken. The combat is the worst the game has ever seen and the platforming was at an all time low, the literal core aspects of a TR game. Puzzles were borderline GONE and it was clear that the notebook was supposed to play more into the puzzles throughout. AoD is the game that HAD the best potential and thats what the fans wont let go of. I love the first half, Paris levels are good (as good as can get) but Prague just shits on the game further by getting consistently worse. But even as early as Paris you can see the msising content. Why, for 4 levels has Lara been collecting items to sell for money? why is there a herbalist and a pawn broker neither of which give you anything? Easy, they were clearly going to be actual shops to buy stuff. Instead, it looks like the money "mechanic" was used for 2 isntances. One, to get the ScorpionX and the other... the doorman so you didnt have to do the stupid apartment 2 minute acrobatics. The game just has too many flaws, hell, in the Strahov there's a cutscene where Lara is in her shorts watching Luddick be vaporised and then shes back into her pants again...

[@Bobthepetferret]

That's basically it, yeah. There's a love for the game but every explanation I hear is "it could have done all this!" and I'm like, yeah, cool, but what do you like about what's actually there? Even this replay, as much as it improved my view on the game, it still made it clear it wasn't a complete experience and there are things that even a fan patch can't fix, as you've pointed out here.

[@frogradar]

@@Bobthepetferret there are also differences in the 2 regions of Europe and American versions. I always hear on twitter people had trouble playing and the game controlled awfully while others say "it wasnt that bad". Turns out Americas version had somehow botched the platforming further than the PAL version did.

[@mrhat50]

Remaster

[@paulwoodford1984]

What i hated about this game is the hand holding. “Looks like that wire will hold my weight” TR should never help you out. that’s where the rewarding part comes from, working things out yourself

[@sorenvc]

The controls aren't hard to use, it's just slow. I managed to get up and down that cliff level without dying 1st try. Mods are stupid.

[@sorenvc]

no wonder you failed, you actually used a controller... it's a mouse & keyboard game.

[@sorenvc]

I enjoyed this game much more than Legend, Anniversary... I understand those old TR are the best because there are modded levels for it by the community, but vanilla wise Angel of Darkness is the most fun for me, because it looks the best, and if we're honest, Legend and Anniversary and Underworld gameplay is boring and awful.

[@roguegoblin2407]

DID YOU HEAR THE NEWS????????

[@ScáthachAssassin]

I finished the release version on pc of this. It was my first Tomb raider game and i was really young ( i think 12) when i played it. I remember it had a lot of bugs in the beginning but as it went on i didn't have a lot of trouble. I do remember a couple of jumps gave me hell though. Overall i really liked it and proceeded to buy every tomb raider that came after it.

[@SuperMeatHands]

If the beta sections of the Parisian Backstreets weren't cut you would have likely been introduced to the commando crawl, as there was a section that you had to do it to exit a closed off park type area. I don't know if there was any other move in the game that would have been introduced earlier or actually introduce, but that move I know would have been in the Parisian Backstreets if they didn't have to cut and block off large portions of the game in order to get it out for the holiday season of 2003.