Boeing 787 ILS Approach and Landing Tutorial - Microsoft Flight Simulator - PC and XBOX

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

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[@keithcombes6749]

Always great videos here. Good information without being packed with long winded garbage. Thanks again!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you so much. That's the nicest thing anyone has said to me all day! I've seen my share of long winded videos filled with garbage i.e. a 97 minute long ILS tutorial.

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

I agree with Keith,

[@adobo1976]

Thanks. The thing that was really holding me back was that I couldn't find a waypoint screen like the G1000 has. Once you said the Nav Frequency gets set automatically after setting the approach the beauty of the Dreamliner really showed.

[@typhoon20032002]

The following remarks and a question pls. I did not see radio altimeter activated which is your major instrument to have an eye on together with vs rate of descent. , all airports are not close to sea with 0 ft elevation. This was not taken in consideration. Because radio altimeter was not activated and you did not have with right Alt + click on pfd the organ minimized on screen. Touch down was good though and centered with bad visibility. My question: where is the ils display, the two pink lines I mean that become one I did not see this and actually that is why I watched your interesting video. In 747 and 767 there is a knob as you may know that shows something like map vor ils GPS display and you select. Thank you well done.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Radar altimeter is only required on CAT II and III ILS approaches. If doing a CAT I ILS approach, minimums are derived from a barometric altitude read off the altimeter and not the RA. The LOC and GS are the pink diamonds (GS and LOC deviation indicators are their proper names) on the primary flight display directly in front of the pilot. They are on the right side of the attitude indicator (GS) and below it (Localizer).

[@amnotthefather1518]

Loving these videos.

[@MarcusAurelius7777]

Thanks for posting this...helpful

[@jakebutler1479]

Hey man, great videos! Do you have one on how to fly a DME ARC approach? Thanks!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

No, but I can make one. I've had it on my list for a while. I'm actually finishing a video as we speak. I'll make that next on the list.

[@Happy_gooli]

You shouldn’t get “rollout” & “flare” armed without “Land 2” or “Land 3” annunciated on the autopilot status annunciator. Probably this is the reason it won’t auto land.

[@ejoh424]

Thanks for the great video. Can you explain the difference between lnav and vnav in autopilot? And also the difference between Loc button and approach button in b787 autopilot? I've read in a lot of site but still got confused, maybe you can the simple explanation, thanks.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

LNAV - Lateral naviation - left and right course only. VNAV - Vertical Navigation - used when you want to observe altitudes i.e. an arrival or an approach with multiple crossing altitudes. Currently, VNAV does not work correctly in FS2020. IRL, you set the bottom altitude, press VNAV, and monitor the AP. From that point, the AP will meet crossing restrictions/altitudes. There is more to it than that, but that's the basics of it. LOC button - will intercept the localizer (left right guidance on a Localizer approach. APPR - will intercept a Glide Slope on an ILS or a Gide Path on an GPS approach. APPR is the same as LOC but it will also fly a GP or GS once it intercepts either or. Did that help?

[@ejoh424]

Thank you ! Is it true that we can only use the loc and appr on approach? Because i press the loc on autopilot during cruise (with flight plan), and it looks like its doing the autopilot the same as when i press lnav (althought i experienced speed and altitude become unstable).

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@ejoh424 LOC is for approaches and NAV or LNAV is for enroute or when flying a GPS approach without a glide path.

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

Score board NOT! 😫 Flight Mode Annunciator or FMA! YES! 👍 20 years ago I was a B777 Sim instructor. It sounds like you went to Flight Safety somewhere. Hey I am just trying to help. Slang on a flight deck is not good. Not everyone will understand it. I flew with a guy that use to say “Dangle the Dunlop’s” 🤪 🛫 very nice job on the videos. Auto spoilers and auto brakes should work too. But maybe not in the sim yet as it does have some bugs as you have pointed.keep up the good work.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I've been to flight safety many times and that is where I picked that up. I appreciate the correction. Previous flight sims had autospoilers. I'm not sure if this one does. There are so many bugs in this sim. My biggest pet peeve is the winds aloft are always 3 knots and surface winds never match the ATIS/ASOS.

[@hpharold23]

This is amazing!

[@WaitingForTheSubway]

Why did you fly this entire approach in v/s? Why not be in vnav?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

VNAV didn’t work in MSFS when that video was made.

[@davidng5263]

nice! next video a320 ILS approach and landing?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I added it to my list. I haven't even flown the A320 on the sim yet. This was only my 3rd time flying the 787 since I've had FS2020. There are 15 items on my list for future videos.

[@davidng5263]

@@thecorporatepilotdad thanks for your hard work :)

[@kevinhollis7703]

Awesome vids, just subscribed, thanks!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you so much. The nice comments mean more than all the subscribers in the world!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

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[@jaybeckman3749]

For some reason, I can't get the jet to release ALT HOLD when the GS is centered and therefore I don't get an automated descent. Any thoughts as to why that would happen? Great Video!!

[@jaybeckman3749]

So a follow up: I discovered that if you use a few hundred feet of Down VS at the point where you should capture the GS, the jet will track the GS. But I do not think this is correct behavior, is it? Shouldn’t the ALT Hold just release on its own and the jet start the descent without being “tickled” with VS?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

It should capture the GS when intercepted with APPR armed. I have had the same issue since the update in the 787. It goes from GS to VS to ALT in about a half second when it should capture and fly the GS down. Try it in a smaller airplane and see if it does it too.

[@jaybeckman3749]

@@thecorporatepilotdad So far, I've flown instrument approaches in the C172 and the TBM and neither of them need to be "nudged" into descent at GS capture so I think it's a bug in the 787.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@jaybeckman3749 I agree. I slewed the airplane back outside the FAF 4 times before it captured the GS.

[@parvildrobu]

I flew 787 yesterday, and had the same problem. Wasn't sure what I did wrong, glad to hear it's probably a bug.

[@baddiegrrr939]

How do you spawn the aircraft before all of this?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

A point is selected on the map to start the flight at a custom departure point.

[@baddiegrrr939]

@@thecorporatepilotdad it spawns me at 32000 feet even though it says 5000 feet

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@baddiegrrr939 each aircraft seems to spawn at a different altitude. It could be changed in the past from the world map page by pressing navlog but that seems to have changed.

[@baddiegrrr939]

@@thecorporatepilotdad thankyou, off topic but do you know how to always have infinite fuel?

[@uischirock]

hi, are you able to performa DCT? I mean a direct to one point of FP or gave from ATC out of FP?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Some. I did it in the Bonanza. In the TBM a line was drawn to the point I selected but the autopilot kept going to the original route. That's a bug as far as I'm concerned. It's frustrating but I'm sure it will get fixed.

[@uischirock]

@@thecorporatepilotdad and in 787? or 747?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@uischirock I have not flown the 747 since the update and I was not able to go direct to a waypoint in the 787. Disappointing.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I think I figured it out. I was going to give you the keystrokes but I am going to make a quick video. It's not perfect, but it will get you started in the right direction.

[@uischirock]

@@thecorporatepilotdad waiting for the link!

[@kenscott9889]

I can't seem to get LNAV or HDG Hold or HDG Select to engage - nothing just a slow spiral to the right increasing - does yaw damper need to be on for the flt director to capture? Any lateral mode does not engage although the PFD shows each mode is enabled - I do not seem to have this issue with the 747 or any of the other default AC. Salty mod for 747 works fine. The 787 mod also works, but does not correct AP. Tried removing all mods and still nothing. Hand-flying is okay and the jet has a realistic heavy feel but I cannot get AP to work. If anyone has ideas - let me know - thanks!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

The flight director should be on and that’s what the AP follows. Yaw damper does not have to be on. That just applies rudder in turns and in turbulence to keep the airplane coordinated. Did you have that problem before the last update?

[@Decivye]

Great vid man :)

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Thank you! I have lots more like this one. I've seen your vids. Thanks for the compliment. You know as well as I do on how long these take to make so the nice comments mean a lot. Shout outs are appreciated.

[@Decivye]

@@thecorporatepilotdad I know what you mean 100% I will try to help you out as much as I can. Quick question maybe you have experienced this. After that flight sim updated my approach mode has been buggy every time I click on it it would go back to LOC mode on me. Had to press it a lot of times and adjust my altitude on autopilot just for it to work out. How has it been for you?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@Decivye I've had similar issues. With APPR armed prior to intercepting the GS, the FMA goes to GS, then VS then ALT and maintains altitude and ignores the GS. It's very frustrating. I say that but it's the airliners that do it. The GA aircraft haven't done that so far.

[@Decivye]

@@thecorporatepilotdad OH thats great to know that its buggy at least I know im not missing a step. Hope they fixed this issue soon. Have a good one keep up the content you deserve a lot more views!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@Decivye Thank you. They will come in time. But in the meantime, I would love a lot more views now! haha How many subs did you get in the first month? How long did it take you to get to 1k?

[@AshtonAU]

Great video, but the music is too loud I can barely hear what you are saying.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Sorry. I can hear it fine on my end. You'll be glad to know I stopped adding background music to my tutorials. A few videos do have it but a few people didn't like it. I'll be doing another tutorial this week probably and no background music.

[@CowbopBeBoy]

I'm trying for the Frequent Flyer Miles achievement and don't want to cheese it with the AI pilot (plus I don't trust the AI pilot) so this is extremely helpful stuff. Thanks so much.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

You are welcome. I got an achievement once during a video and had to leave it in the video. What do you have to do for the Frequent Flyer Miles achievement in FS2020?

[@CowbopBeBoy]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Fly from Bordeaux airport in France (near the Asobo HQ) all the way to Seattle-Tacoma without time shifting. I'm over Nunavut, Canada right now and I'm a little nervous I'm going to blow it.

[@CowbopBeBoy]

Specifically it's LFBD to KSEA.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@CowbopBeBoy GOOD LUCK. I hope you took snacks!

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@CowbopBeBoy Did you make it and get your achievement?

[@andreaslechner_]

Great video! For some reason, Loc and ILS dont work for me anymore. Not on the A320, 787, or 747. They never intercept the loc. Doesn't matter if I set the flight up in the main screen, or on the ground, or mid flight via the FMC. This sucks major, cause I am on Vatsim all the time.... Also when I go direct to a Waypoint, lets say I do an ILS approach, and ATC wants me to go Direct W971, after reaching said point vnav takes me back to the first waypoint and doesn't resume nav from direct waypoint. Which wouldnt be a problem if the LOC would pop up by that point, so I could deselect vnav and go via LOC and then APPR, but as stated they dont....

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

First, verify the localizer frequency is selected. You can see it in the NAV RAD page on the FMC. It will show the frequency and course. VNAV does not work in FS2020. Make sure you're using NAV/LNAV. If you use LNAV and go direct to a fix it will draw the line to the new waypoint but will still follow the old route. This is a bug. Try HDG mode and then select LOC/FAC (747 and 787) prior to intercept. That button will tell the Flight Director/AP to look for and intercept and then fly the localizer/final approach course in the NAV frequency and ignore the FMC. I have had an issue since the last update where the 787 (and probably other aircraft) will arm the GS then capture and switch back to VS and then ALT. I had to recently turn the AP off and hand fly the GS down. Try those steps and see if that helps.

[@andreaslechner_]

​@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks for the quick reply! Sorry I mean LNAV! Yeah the issue is, in the INIT PREF page at APPROACH, it doesnt insert the frequency anymore for whatever reason. Since its not taking in any ILS Frequency in the FMC the plane doesnt know what to do, if I press LOC mode then it just turns (what seems to me) into a random direction and flies there. I am not getting the LS display mode neither, Not able to see the purple diamond anymore nor the white cubicles where the diamonds pop up. The bug with the G/S not being captured, yeah I had that as well. Up until today at least, since now its not even letting me do an ILS. Haven't changed anyhting what so ever. Literally started the game, wanted to fly on Vatsim as per usual, and now its not letting me do ILS approaches. Didn't download anything, dont have any extra 3rd party software or anything. Its so random.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@andreaslechner_ I did an approach after the last update in the 787 and it loaded the frequency. Are you having any issues in airplanes where you enter the localizer frequency? I'll try it when I'm able to get some time to play. I'm really curious to see if I have the same issue.

[@andreaslechner_]

@@thecorporatepilotdad I have been testing the 320, 787, 747, none of them seem to be loading in the frequency. Been testing around with them for the past 6 hours. Haven't gotton it to work. Thought I was a retard, followed the guides still nothing. Gonna look for another aircraft where you have to put it in by hand and then retry. But yeah, none of the airliners work for me :(

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@andreaslechner_ try the 172. It is basic and has an AP. Even the 152 will do ILS approaches but no AP.

[@J-D248]

ugh. the music! would be a great video otherwise

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I agree but it can’t be undone. It’s like being trapped in an elevator with musac playing. It seemed like a good idea at the time.

[@hiortintexasracing]

Is VNAV not working ?

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

It never fully worked in the 787 if at all. The only one that has VNAV close to the real thing is the CJ4 Working Title mod.

[@hiortintexasracing]

@@thecorporatepilotdad Thanks, so no stock airplanes in MSFS have VNAV working ? I have the CJ4 WT Mod and as you say, it works well.

[@michaeldegen8917]

Whenever I try this my plane wants to turn around the the previous waypoint before flying the approach

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Did you select the approach in the FMS? When I made the video I actually flew the route before recording so the FMS was happy and it auto tuned the LOC. If you're bypassing the FMS route and intercepting the localizer, instead of selecting LNAV on the flight director control panel, select LOC/FAC on the far right.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

Also, don't forget to push APPR when cleared for the approach or outside the Final Approach Fix/Glide Slope Intercept on an ILS approach if you're doing it without ATC. When you press APPR you should also get a white GS just above the attitude indicator.

[@michaeldegen8917]

thecorporatepilotdad this may be it. I’ll give it a try. Thank you for responding

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

@@michaeldegen8917 you're welcome. I watched my video again and then fired up my sim real quick to try it and it worked fine without flying the FMS route.

[@michaeldegen8917]

thecorporatepilotdad I tried doing exactly what you did in the sim. It still wants to fly back to the previous waypoint. Could be a bug in my sim. Gonna try re installing it

[@mitubes]

Interesting video but it would be perfect without the music.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

If I could go back and turn the music down or off I would have. That was one of my early videos.

[@The_dutchaviator]

Just put VNAV on and relax

[@mootpoint7053]

This didn’t teach me anything because my FMC is not laid out like yours is

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

The FMC has been updated (for the better) since this video was made but the basics of the ILS approach are the same.

[@millwaal]

Naff background music is totally unnecessary - spoils an otherwise good video.

[@thecorporatepilotdad]

I agree and can’t undo it without redoing the whole video, which I may do because I get a comment like this once a month.