Boeing: How Capitalism Crashes Planes

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Selected Bibliography:
Braverman, H. (1974). Labor and Monopoly Capital. Monthly Review Press.
Kika, T. (2024). "Boeing Plane Incidents Timeline: Full List of 9 Issues in 3 Months." Newsweek.
Mackintosh, T. (2024). "Alaska Airlines blowout: Passenger describes being on Flight 1282." BBC.
Tkacik, M. (2024). "Suicide Mission." The American Prospect.
Langewiesche, W. (2019). "What Really Brought Down the Boeing 737 Max?" The New York Times.
Head, E. (2019). "The limits of William Langewiesche’s ‘airmanship’." Medium.
Robison, P. (2021). Flying Blind. Doubleday.
Luz, K. (1999). "The Boeing-McDonnell Douglas Merger: Competition Law, Parochialism, and the Need for a Globalized Antitrust System." Scholarly Commons at Boston University School of Law.
Kennedy, R. (2022). Downfall: The Case Against Boeing. Netflix.
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver's Boeing video: • Boeing: Last Week Toni...

[@arcanineryu]

Theres only so much fat that can be trimmed in the name of efficiency before you start peeling off layers of muscle, tendon, bone, and even organs.

[@Why_am_i_heree]

Underrated comment

[@eyesofthecervino3366]

Not to mention the fattiest of organs . . . _the braaaiiiiin._

[@omnaaa]

You’re not even supposed to trim all of the fat. The healthy amount of fat’s purpose is to protect and warm you.

[@elleliteracy]

i wanna watch this but i’m going on a 12 hour flight to korea next week and i know i would be imagining myself getting sucked out the plane so i am here to say love you support you will be returning in 7-10 business days

[@TatersUnited]

I flew on a 737 max a few weeks ago. I was pretty freaked out lol. But hey, I’m still here.

[@notarabbit1752]

important to note that the reason why the pilots weren't told about MCAS was to save money. Specifically when Airbus updated their competing plane, it was done in such a way that no retraining would be needed to fly it. Recertification on a new model is very time consuming and expensive, requiring pilots to be temporarily grounded. So the bar for Boeing was set there, to update the 737 without requiring retraining. But they couldn't get it to fly the same without MCAS, and they were afraid that the added system would induce a need for recertifying the pilots. So they just didn't tell them about it.

[@SemekiIzuio]

Omg so they rather trade people lives for money. The planes sold as ready to go were actually prototypes test run experimenting

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Same reason it only used one sensor. If they made it use both sensors the FAA would ask: seems like this system is important enough to need two sensors so why didn't you tell the pilots about this important system?

[@3dartxsi]

I'm reminded of that scene from Chernobyl where the guy was saying how the Soviet Union did all of these unsafe things with their nuclear reactors and when asked why he said "because it's cheaper."

[@jbmp1390]

I don't understand how it wouldn't be considered criminal negligence at the absolute least.

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

@@jbmp1390 they're above the law

[@Danae_O]

Langewiesche being like "sure, there were so many factors against those pilots outside their control, including crucial failings on the part of Boeing, but pilots in the old days were built different darn it"

[@the_expidition427]

This is social corporatism this being capitalism is wrong

[@bethanybrookes8479]

Idk if the pilots were built different, but the planes definitely were.

[@TheTurtlebot]

Bro literally pulled a "back in my day" as if there aren't plenty of pilots his age still flying

[@dylnpickl846]

Yes thank you. The system isn't broken, capitalism is working just as intended. It is SO frustrating to hear rhetoric essentially saying "we need better capitalists" when what we need is to pivot away from capital-based decision making entirely. Also, your points about deskilling are so relevant. I have noticed a significant downturn in the competence of all professions I encounter as a consumer. There is a lack of basic training in almost all fields leading to lapses in competence in some of the basic areas of customer service. It reminds me of a King of the Hill episode where the power goes out while Hank is attempting to make a purchase at the store. The clerk claims that without power he cannot calculate the sale tax or even lock the front door, which Hank thinks is ridiculous. Reliance on automation is convenient, but also dangerous if we abandon the skills they replace.

[@comradeinternet467]

If one is a musician, one knows they have "made it" when they get parodied by Weird Al. If one's company ends up as the centrepiece of a John Oliver segment, that company is already dead.

[@Bob-bs9ok]

Given that Boeing's a military contractor and megecorp, they're just getting started.

[@monimuppet6132]

"If John Oliver is doing a piece on your company, it's too late." Facts 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Izerion]

It feels like we are in a Scooby Doo universe except every boogeyman is just capitalism in disguise. Or not even in disguise.

[@QuadrielAnderson]

​@lindmorn5909it's not that no one cares. It's that everyone is scared that once we start advocating, they'll just straight up off us.

[@michaelangeloabarreto4588]

Lol In Scooby Doo every villain IS capitalism.

[@viridianacortes9642]

@@michaelangeloabarreto4588yeah dude. One of the reasons so many villains in that show wore those monster costumes was because there was a recession going on in the show.

[@nobodyimportant1968]

lindmorn5909 seriously, it's like a venn diagram of monsters co-piloting a giant mech suit labeled KYRIARCHY (/agree)

[@MR-xc3sw]

Wel.under that mask is Xi jinping.

[@kylesmith2145]

I deeply appreciate that you dont edit out when you moentarily forget words or phrases. I have found joy shouting the words youre looking for at my phone

[@caiden3396]

Poor Barnet. Dude had the same possible fate as Eugene Malove, Jonathon Kanzius, Will Colby, Gary Kildal, Donny Mackay, Stan Meyer, NickTesla, Hilda Murrel, Franklin Olson, and Dave Kelly.

[@availanila]

Sheesh! That's too many David's dying taking on Goliaths.

[@connerblank5069]

Some people think you can design a game that prioritizes victory above all else by giving people who win substantial extra advantage in subsequent rounds, incentivises cheating extensively by letting everyone who ever manages it _keep_ the advantage into future rounds, and then act surprised when everyone just cheats all the time instead of actually playing the game. Still not sure why.

[@polyhedron4258]

You're assuming there aren't always cheaters willing to do whatever it takes in their own self interest. At least the current game sometimes aligns that with a common good. I don't think its a choice that advantage cascades, thats just how it works. How would it even be possible to remove "excess" advantage without coercion/violence? A lot of it is intangible like specific education/knowledge/relationships. Concentrations of power doesn't seem to be a uniquely capitalist problem, what we have is just adapted to capitalism.

[@connerblank5069]

@@polyhedron4258 Of course there are always going to be cheaters. The problem isn't the existence of cheaters, it's the fact that we _reward them for trying._ If they were punished for it, they wouldn't be the only successful people. And yeah, cascade advantage isn't _uniquely_ a feature of capitalism, but it _is_ the trait capitalism tries to optimize for. The whole premise is giving successful people more resources so they can be more successful. It _is_ a choice, and we _could_ decide to do things other ways which don't _exclusively prioritize_ arbitrary success.

[@polyhedron4258]

@@connerblank5069 I think everyone probably agrees with punishing cheaters, we'll just never be able to do it 100% or have the intended effect of stopping cheating. They just cheat in another way. (I'm reminded of modern pvp multiplayer, ugh) Also on a logistics level, if you paint the cheater brush too wide, you get false positives. Get enough of those combined with harsher consequences and less want to risk playing at a high level. I feel like we already (should) have the mechanism to force organizations to prioritize things outside of arbitrary success through regulation, no? Just seems like the problem is corporations are linked too closely to the courts. Optimizing for success is probably arbitrary, but what other metric could you optimize for that wouldn't also result in some other problem? Seems like tradeoffs. You can only optimize equity for so long until the opportunity cost means the super unequal/cheater-infested places of the world have a higher standard of living or more wealth in total to bully everyone else with.

[@polyhedron4258]

@@connerblank5069 Ideally, thats what the court of law is supposed to do. Problem is with enough $$ or power they can just lobby/delay/bully/settle/pay fines, without actually addressing their behaviours. We need jail time, not fines. On broad level, regulation is supposed to align organizations along other concerns, but I feel like every other kind of specific trait alignment would cause its own problems too. There is an opportunity cost in not pursuing advantage, you will be out competed eventually by someone who does.

[@deathisdead270]

Unfortunately the systems is working as intended, there are no cheaters, that’s just how the game was meant to be played.

[@karl_margs]

Capitalism crashes cars too. Auto fatalities are on the rise

[@SemekiIzuio]

The headlights.... they are violating safety laws

[@karl_margs]

​@@SemekiIzuioyou're probably right about that. Auto companies also flout environmental regs by just producing vehicles in larger weight classes. Personally, I think safety regs aren't stringent enough, and personal vehicles should be limited to 1.5L manual transmission engines. (with dimmer headlights 😊)

[@deathisdead270]

@@karl_margs I think we need more public transportation in general as well. It would help avoid traffic incidents and save overall time and money.

[@TatersUnited]

Auto fatalities aren’t typically related to faulty manufacturing though. It’s almost always due to poor drivers.

[@doctahjonez]

For pedestrians that is, cars are getting safer but a bigger liability. Our pickup trucks look like tanks now lol

[@NattiNekoMaid]

4:50 can we talk about the vertical video cropped for widescreen cropped back to vertical all inside a widescreen container that I myself am watching with my phone vertical

[@MorbidRexx]

I find the argument of the "let's just hope for a better capitalist to take over" to be especially infuriating when talking to liberals and conservatives about these types of issues. Never mind the fact that capitalism's internal logic will always pre-select leaders to be those that have already demonstrated through their careers that they are competent in the system of profit, because this is only a piece of the argument. The real core is this "well let's just hope for a better boss/CEO/manager, etc.," and that is what peasants used to say about kings and queens that were particularly tyrannical. Why do we need to "hope" that the "next one" will be better? Why is there such an inherent safety in having someone else we can't control as a population, be responsible for things that material affect the lives of millions, if not billions of people. The origin of democracy was specifically so we didn't have to "hope for a better leader next time", and people today are totally comfortable using the logic of kings to justify private business leaders and it just leaves me absolutely baffled every time I hear it.

[@piko555]

thissssssss

[@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge]

I mean Alan Mulally was pretty good when he worked at Boeing

[@monikamatas9340]

YES! We line in modern day monarchy. Well said 👏

[@congquypham8718]

It's so boever

[@willmax95]

Boever😂😂😂 new term unlocked

[@matheussanthiago9685]

Ah yes, my favorite 80's prog rock icon David Boever

[@protoretro1290]

That "door" wasnt a door. It was a door plug, a more or less permanent addition that plugs up the hole cut out for a door specifically because you dont want a door there.

[@Jeustful]

What can we really do apart from from boycotting the hell out of them?

[@420pee]

individual actions will not go far, but there is an international revolutionary communist party being built. uniting workers internationally is exactly what capitalists are afraid of. uniting our struggle means we can see socialism in our lifetime.

[@mattdombrowski8435]

More practically, focus on the local/state level. You are 1/333,000,000 of the American public. Not going to make much of a difference there. On average, you are 1/6,700,000 of your state's population. It's hard to find a good number for city size like that, but it's probably less than 50,000. My advice is to get involved in local politics. You and a few friends can make a big difference at that level. Attend planning meeting and try to shout down the NIMBYs, pressure your mayor/city council/whatever into managing police better or improving public transit or school/library funding etc. Maybe your state reps need to hear from several thousand people about improving state safety regulations.

[@zlaidroc8921]

its impossible to boycott boeing

[@gloverfox9135]

@@420peego to North Korea if you want your communist utopia then. I’m sure you’ll do fine

[@CrackedPropane]

I’m going to Cali for my honeymoon and Boeing was unavoidable, it’s too late to cancel the flight Im extremely nervous

[@NotAnEvilMastermind]

To provide a quick and rudimentary explanation of what the MCAS is for - As planes have evolved, newer, more efficient engines were made. But these better engines are bigger than the old ones. It wasn't a problem for the Airbus A320 because they have tall landing gear. But the Boeing 737 has short landing gear, and as such, not enough space under the wings to fit a huge engine. As such, the engine was moved further forward on the wing for the MAX series, causing it to handle differently than the older 737 models. The MCAS was supposed to make corrections to have the plane handle like the older ones, without needing to retrain pilots for the new way it handles. But of course, then the issues come up with how Boeing figured pilots don't need to know about this new system that's going to try correcting their inputs.

[@katejackson4142]

This is what happens when you allow companies to do their own inspections instead of having federal inspections.

[@elainelouve]

I'm close with an engineer, and yeah, capitalism is affecting product development in many fields.🤐 The weirdest thing is how everyone is talking about innovation and saving money, but also hinder innovation and make the company lose money unnecessarily.

[@elliotsangestevez]

thanks so much to babila for the edit!

[@BABILA.]

it was a fun one to edit! thanks for the opportunity :,)

[@silverandexact]

​@@BABILA.the use of the All Things Considered theme took me out 🤣

[@BABILA.]

@@silverandexact ah, a fellow enjoyer of public radio! haha

[@Coffeemancer]

I love stopping the data brokers by giving all my info to a company on a youtube ad which we know are definitely trustworthy. You know it's good because everyone on youtube has personally used it and says it's good.

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Elliot’s videos are not Boeing, I will say that much. It’s always a delight 🔥 P.S. Hope you’re feeling better by now!

[@madgepickles]

When you said Boeing's "incompetence" you said it in a way where I'm assuming you meant to imply something else but don't want to get sued for defamation or whatever. So I'll say it: Boeing leadership was not incompetent in the sense of "they don't know what they are doing" or "they didn't mean for their business practices to have these outcomes". They intentionally, and with full knowledge of the real down line impacts on the product quality, cut qaqc budgets, employee volume, and employee training in order to maximize the money going to their own pockets. In doing so, Boeing leadership is not a rogue entity acting outside the parameters of the system's intended function. This is exactly what the system is designed to do. They say the invisible hand of market is the only valid regulation, consumers can simply choose not to fly on Boeing they'll say, and those who die are meaningless, irrelevant. We, the consumers in the capitalist system, are not human beings with value outside of our consumption power. As soon as we have died, we have no further value to them. They'll fire an exec and increase metric requirements on mid level managers and increase the pressure on the lowest paid employees. They'll donate some money to a charity (it's tax deductible, although doubtful they pay any taxes). They probably won't even increase any qaqc budgets. In fact, they'll probably cut them even more somehow.

[@yakkoindy]

guess its time to crash on the couch and watch a good video essay

[@schokoladenritter7969]

"What's the conclusion then? What's the call to action?" These are the questions that conservatives do not ask enough about any issue, especially the extreme right. It's like they are happy in knowing that many people are doing poorly/suffering, that some people are meant to have all the power and should be able to abuse others as they please. I remember Jordan Peterson's talk on how some people's IQ are too low and that these people can't be given proper jobs in society. Ok, what are we supposed to do about that? Surely, you are implying that we should take ethical measures to help these people, right?

[@stevengoomba6490]

So I work in aviation and funnily enough I’m going on a 3 leg trip all on Boeings right now. It really is all about money and it’s sad. All of these companies have made major profits off of the post-Covid travel boom and all they wanna do it cut corners for an extra dime. They betray the customers’ trust for sure, but also the employees that work for them, which is even more egregious imo.

[@hellbreakfast1590]

I'm glad to see that audio issues are just a factor with little glasses guys. (I am also a little dark-haired and eyed glasses guy and microphones seem to despise me on a personal level. Never let me touch your mic. It WILL die.)

[@chloedsmith]

The reason there was no training about MCAS afaik was because MCAS was specifically to *avoid* having to retrain pilots to the behaviour of the new planes, to decrease the turnaround times from designing the plane to actually being able to fly them in the wild. They didn't want the little part of retraining pilots to stand in the way of them getting their cash sooner. Checked it to refresh my memory, and yeah: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuvering_Characteristics_Augmentation_System "MCAS was intended to mimic the flight behavior of the previous Boeing 737 Next Generation. The company indicated that this change eliminated the need for pilots to have simulator training on the new aircraft."

[@chloedsmith]

@lindmorn5909 I'm not sure if it sounded like it, but I'm not disagreeing with the video at all. Adding info on how this was pre-meditated and directly profit-motivated, is all.

[@PastelNaps]

At this point I wish they would install seatbelts in the toilets, too, so I only get dunked in piss instead of piss soak+concussion from getting smashed into the ceiling 😭

[@AnimatedHooman]

When are we having next session of pedagogy of oppressed? I had a excellent reading session of chapter 1

[@elliotsangestevez]

today!

[@hellojams]

Customers are plebs. Why would boeing care if you died? They already pocketed their cash. And customers will keep purchasing plane tickets. The consumer is addicted to consumerism, that is why companies can get away with this gross negligence.

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

You gotta learn to make things into win-win situations. If the wing snaps sending your plane into a down spiral, well that's pretty intense and interesting, and if not, you survive.

[@nev3i]

A landscape video, made portrait, made landscape again without zooming in? That video of the flight dropping in the air was miniscule man

[@ImaginaryMdA]

Boeing: Your safety is cutting into our profits!

[@JustinSmith-mh7mi]

The reason for implementing the MCAS system was because of how differently the Max 8 flew as compared to previous models of Boeing planes. The MCAS was software intended to correct for the difference in flight characteristics so Boeing wouldn't have to spend money to retrain pilots on the new aircraft

[@Dinahhh]

11:38 *Interesting* that it’s somehow a result of “bad airmanship” when the pilots involved were Indian + Indonesian, and Ethiopian… makes me wonder if he’d have said the same thing if the pilots were of a whiter complexion…

[@Redgofighter1]

I don't think that he was referring to race. However I looked into it deeper, it was possible for the pilots to stop MCAS, but in both causes it was unlikely for the pilots to stop it anyway. I think he was looking at it from a position of already knowing what the problem was. The Lion Air pilots didn't know MCAS existed and weren't trained to deactivate it, the Ethiopian pilots deactivated MCAS, but the plane was traveling way to fast for them to regain control.

[@usako_jpn]

Sooo, last month I flew to Japan. Once I got to my hotel, a KZbinr uploaded about Flight JL123. The thing is that the pilots had to flight side to side in order to avoid crashing. Sadly, four survived (2 died throughout the years). But pilots who tried to simulate the same strategy the two pilots end up failing for longer hours. It’s not always about the pilots. For the Flight123 incident (I believe) it was the end part of the plane that flew off because the same plane had an accident but no one bothered checking up on it.

[@renaigh]

this is what happens when you forget to turn on Airplane Mode smh

[@bibitta]

You know why they call them Boeing. Because they go Boeing Boeing Boeing

[@protoretro1290]

Langewiesche's comments would be great if he was talking about Air France 447 (which was an Airbus aircraft btw) that was a legitimate case of the pilot having terrible airmanship. All he had to do was keep the plane flying straight and everyone would have survived. Problem is he ain't talking about AF447.

[@firefox5926]

5:12 i mean part of me wonders like how much of this is related too crappy maintenance by the airlines themselves like yeah if there are new planes out of the factory yes ... but even then were the airlines not doing inspections before delivery ? are there not random plant imperfections? and what is going on with the maintainers ? some of this stuff sure but other things its like why hasn't this checked on a walk around or found during routine inspection ... i mean this yin safty critical thinks like this you not ment to even have single point failures like they because everything's ment to be double and triple checked and double redundant

[@greyfox4838]

Elliot, your hair looks amazing. Drop your hair care routine and products please please please please please please please please please

[@whoever6458]

Great video! You earned yourself a new subscriber, comrade! Something I've noticed about capitalism is that it doesn't go well with real democracy any more than it goes with actual safety. Capitalism is essentially a system where it's the person with the most money rather than the person born into a certain royal family who rules things. So long as we have capitalism as our economic system, even if we were to succeed in creating the perfect democracy, it would eventually be undermined again by the authoritarian nature of capitalism. The best governing system that goes along with capitalism is fascism because the love of money is the root of all evil. Thank you for speaking out again this truly evil economic system we call capitalism!

[@calci2679]

I am watching the video right now so I don't know if it's mentioned, but it definitely feels like Langewiesche's piece has racist undertones to it.

[@aegis3505]

Maybe not directly, but i see Langeweische's peice leading neatly into a "DEI pilot" argument. Yikes.

[@gundamnduke0]

oh god, listening to you explaining aerodynamics and aviation in general just killed my brain cells

[@biharcourt]

Maybe they were already dead?

[@mastergreenfox6004]

Welp, it is ironic that, due to other personal reasons, as of Jan last year I decided to never fly in an airplane again. Now I just have even greater reasons to not fly ever again.

[@Lizzy_Lizzard]

As a plane nerd/avgeek that regularly watches aviation industry content, there's many moments throughout the video that I just wanted to go "Um, actually!" But very respectfully just to correct/clarify some explanations haha. This is a great analysis over all though! I was waiting for someone to make a video connecting these issues more with capitalism (ew)

[@jeremiahreilly9739]

Thank you for this interesting commentary. Bravo. I am a fan of capitalism, because capitalism has worked and has made enormous profits which has raised hundreds of millions, if not billions, out of poverty. I live in Switzerland, which is a highly market oriented, highly capitalism, HIGHLY regulated economy. One example: ALL health insurance in Switzerland is privately purchased. There is no corporate health insurance benefit. There is no public single payer system. Instead every single person is Switzerland buys a health insurance policy. There is 100% coverage. There are about 63 non-profit insurers competing. It works. It works GREAT. The problem is not free-market or a planned economy. The problem is not capitalism versus socialism or communism. The problem in American as my hero Ralph Nader said, we have capitalism for the poor and socialism for corporations.

[@labellissimabritneyellis7230]

26:00 dropping like flies works I feel, given the context

[@kmjgsdkmjgsd]

Pretty interesting to see u had to keep the news clip in the teeny tiny box, I didnt know u had to worry about YT fvcking u over :(

[@seleciaa]

This is unreal..

[@iendorseyou]

I was working in Expedia at the time of the crash of the 737 max. We had so many cancellations for flights. It was a stressful time in my life haha

[@munchiekins]

the new lighting looks great 😅 i am now worried about flying but am enjoying the video

[@TheK3vin]

"They have shifted from quality to... not quality" loved this lmao

[@YassinAdam]

Loved the video, Elliot! Very interesting subject matter

[@KarolHaltenberger]

To experience peak 21st century, watch the video starting at 4:35 is on a mobile phone in portrait mode.

[@drendelous]

6:18 but how did this happen? who could have closed their eyes on the production of such a filmv

[@harambe3363]

the idea they killed bro btw means none of this will get better so yeah f*ck boeing, everyone is right to be scared and not take the chance because what are the chances boeing becomes safer, ZERO lol. Sick world we live in.

[@Dseated]

Cutting costs will only drive profit until someone gets hurt. Now less people want to fly Boeing and airlines don't want Boeing planes.

[@m4yb3nik73]

My bad for that back injury I’ll dial it back next time

[@ajewishchristianmuslim]

“beoing whistleblower dead” sounds about Earth

[@MrAllofyourbase]

The thing that infuriates me the most about the Boeing situation - beyond the obvious "capitalism bad" - is that the response of the government when the deaths started piling up was not to hold them over a barrel for it and attempt to force *some* kind of reforms on them. Letting them die wasn't a realistic political option exactly given the state of the military's dependence on them (though that dependence is waning, as Lockheed keeps just consistently kicking the shit out of them in quality), but it sure as shit was a golden opportunity to put some kind of shackles back on them. And then... rather than let them feel the squeeze from every airline around the world no longer buying shit from them, the government instead ordered a shit ton of F-15EXs from them. A fighter jet nobody asked for, a fighter jet that's inferior to what the military is already buying en masse in every single way (including operating costs, which was by far the biggest complaint about what we're already buying) (and yes that includes the payload, as the F-35 is actually capable of carrying *more* if it's willing to sacrifice its stealth, which still leaves it as better in every other respect), a fighter jet that served absolutely no purpose but to bail out Boeing. *That* steams me. We bloated the military budget *even more* to bail out Boeing with a contract that the military didn't even fucking want and that's objectively worse than what we have.

[@madlep]

“When one door closes, another one opens” - Boeing proverb 😆

[@rabbitcreative]

Got chem-trails in the thumbnail.

[@quorpalorp]

Yeah and that chemical is leaking fuel ☠️☠️

[@Stories885]

Tell me why I bust out laughing at those first words. Glad someone covered this. Great video.

[@cyclesofstrength]

The word that folks like John Oliver too frequently omit when presenting their research is "incentive". What incentives were present that made people at the top want to make the decisions they made? Profit.

[@chukadoo1871]

the blooper reel 😅

[@monikamatas9340]

Society's biggest problem is upholding modern day monarchy, thinking that one day they will find the "better" leader

[@henson2k]

Boeing is less automated than Airbus but still we are discussing Boeing issues i.e. have nothing to do with automation

[@rileynavarra7652]

i'm 40 seconds in and yo UR HAIR LOOKS SO GOOD BESTIE !!!!!!!

[@TangledWinston]

Something really important you're getting wrong is all of the Boeing related incidents you brought up besides the 787 computer error were not related to Boeing at all. All of the things you listed besides one were ground maintenence which isn't done by Boeing. That is entirely the fault of airlines since they do the ground maintenence.

[@hugoCastellnaos]

almost everting Oliver dose is that way because of Capitalism. you might be able to do a good number of video about how he dose never take it to level.

[@DominicHolder-nn3um]

Here’s what I don’t understand. Wouldn’t all this negative publicity, flight delays, equipment failures & death hurt Boeing in the long run? What’s the endgame?

[@kaseywahl]

And Boeing continues to profit, make planes, and emerge relatively unscathed. This is capitalism at its finest.

[@soulblue65]

Does someone have the reference for the lamp that's making that water effect on the walls/ceilings ? (if it is even a lamp at all) Great video, contextualizing events is always a great way to make bigger problems more tangible for people

[@Kristijan_]

One time on a Boeing the fan engines killed a man....Boeing truly is something from fiction man.

[@hw49524]

eh, aviation's never been as safe as it is now, quality control issues and improper maintenance were rampant during the golden age of flying. nobody has died in a boeing crash since sriwijaya air flight 182 back in jan 2021.

[@sprnkles]

I’m flying on a Boeing in two weeks… 😅😬

[@andriana5311]

All the best wishes for you, please get on well soon💕

[@natejohnson1083]

26:37 hahahhahahahhahahaa are u fucking kidding me hahahaha

[@litterboxstudios]

“Dropping like Boeings”?

[@CherryEggi]

Exactly

[@Rissa_1322]

You should've said they were flying off the shelves No? Okay

[@johnnyBravo707]

These are a lot of incidents, but to be fair and rational, what is the background of incidents in the airline industry. For example how do i know if airbus is any better? Should i believe that news media is reporting all incidents and airbus is flawless? What if all this is normal for airline manufacturing, what if the problems go deeper and boing is just the one in the spotlight, how do we know?

[@biharcourt]

That's just what he's trying to say. The deeper problem IS capitalism.

[@Ridhymsin]

hey elliot new viewer here idk if you're taking video suggestions but i would love for you to cover the indian elections and indian politics in general and how propaganda is weaponized so blatantly. k thanks

[@KeskaKaley]

Anyone here after Kendrik V Drake like 😮😮😮

[@shooky_shooky]

I've only heard like 3 of these issues. Wtf. Can boeing get it together please?? I have to fly on two boeings next month 😭😭😭 edit: can capitalism just.. not ✋

[@charlomakes]

I would just change flights icl 😅

[@shooky_shooky]

@@charlomakes unfortunately there's no other flights i can make that won't be Boeing 😕

[@perroraton9515]

Love ur videos! Never flying Boeing again

[@Asuraunl]

china be smiling with their comac planes rn

[@BriarBeeBenson]

Yes! All of this! It’ll never not irritate me when people, who I would usually agree with, can’t see the bigger picture and identify the true roots of the problem. They will focus only on individuals instead of the systems that made those individuals that way in the first place! When one days: “if we replace the person at the top then everything will be better and the problem will be solved!” You are just saying that the system is fine the way it is and it’s only due to the moral failings of like one or a handful of people that lead to said problem. Which is just individualism masquerading as leftism. That person is agreeing with the logic of the one they oppose, they just disagree with their conclusions. Individualists and capitalists will wrongly blame individuals who have no significant power to affect anything and tell them that it’s their fault things are bad because they didn’t have enough willpower to git gud or some shit Liberals who are more left-leaning though and claim they hate capitalism will often focus their efforts on instead blaming those who do have a significant amount of power and saying things are bad because those people refuse to change, while ignoring WHY they have no incentive to change and do something good with their power in the first place. They’re still using the logic of a devout individualist and capitalist, they just disagree with what individual to pin the blame on It’s infuriating. They so close to the point and yet are so far! They’re not saying to themselves “yes, and?” Enough. They’re not asking themselves “okay, but WHY and HOW does this even happen? What caused these people to behave in such an anti-human way? How and why did it become so prevalent?” I wish they would stop viewing everything with such a personal lens

[@natebookout1353]

The involvement of the US military in the Boeing story has just convinced me further the roots of colonialism cannot be extricated from US capitalism.

[@jose.montojah]

Oi, how long have ya been there in the "home of the brave" living? Because "military bad" is NOT a common opinion on that area of the world. _buenosigueasitupuedessaludoschao_

[@dilliee]

A Boeing plane hasn't crashed since 2022. Hasn't happened in north america since 2014. People barely ever die on planes period, why are people suddenly pretending flying isn't still one of the safest things you'll ever do.

[@RockyRZ]

Hello Glowie

[@dilliee]

@@RockyRZ 👋Hello 34 year old man who is scared of planes.

[@laurioho2041]

Yep, at least it ain't a tupolev

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

Must be a great pilot if he pivoted to another career entirely.

[@sophiaisabelle01]

We appreciate your insights. You’ll always have our support.

[@dustykh]

Yes, capitalism is the problem. That is why soviet era planes have such good crash rates. That's why when boeing suddenly decided to switch to a capitalistic system they suddenly got worse.

[@woahseph47]

Get Boeing out of St. Louis!!

[@TheTurtlebot]

Blaming the pilots when a plane malfunctions is so wrong on so many levels talking about "pilots these days" as if every pilot is a 25 year old rookie and no veteran pilots exist

[@mmps18]

Thank you Elliot!