BOJACK HORSEMAN on CHANGE - Wisecrack Edition

[@jamalkarshe5052]

“I’ve spent many years being miserable cause I assumed that was the only way to be” that one line changed my perspective on the show

[@theunraveler]

"It takes a long time to realise that you are miserable and an even longer time to realise it doesnt have to be that way"

[@ShadowTheDeathhog]

That line hit me. I still think about it and I'm still trying to process it. I'm 26 but my life has felt so incredibly long from the childhood abuse to the terrible homeless teenage years, to my slowly but barely improving adulthood. All the people I've hurt along the way that I only wanted to do right by. Being miserable is comfortable, hating myself for my mistakes is comfortable, pretending that just drinking, drugs, and sex is a fulfilling life is comfortable. I don't know anything else so it's hard to work towards something else. I can honestly say that I don't feel willing to let any of those things go, they feel like who I am. Because of that this show hits me in a way that very little else does

[@jamalkarshe5052]

Joz I find it weird that it’s all gonna be over soon and I’ll never see bojack again after this

[@ShadowTheDeathhog]

@@jamalkarshe5052 In the words of Lyla Foy's song at the end of Season 1 Ep 4 Can't look back It's impossible

[@jamalkarshe5052]

Joz it’s funny his mother said “your bojack horseman there’s no cure for that” I thought he was gonna end the way he started but he might end up being better. I honestly didn’t care as much about any character or most people but I hope he ends up being better

[@Megamean09]

Last season Bojack was literally begging other people to hold him accountable for his actions, and the world refused. Now that he's accepted he has to do it himself, suddenly the world is finally willing to strike him down.

[@adamcrook4611]

Because he's ready. Not only that, but the world is as well, to hold people we propped up as better than us accountable for the shitty things they do.

[@Megamean09]

@Liz Lee Isn't Bojack more about existential nihilism? The cosmic nihilist approach of "none of this shit matters" is more Rick & Morty's thing, Bojack is more of "_I_ don't matter."

[@conwellkid]

@Liz Lee reading this done a lot for me just now

[@foamingclean596]

From a story standpoint, I think of it as his final test in taking responsibility for himself. He is now in a position where he has to truly face his past through the lens of Hollyhock.

[@TSDT]

@Liz Lee whoa... The idea of being physically punished so that everything is better feels way to close to home. I was often hit as a child and even in my teens I would ask others to hit me if I did something wrong to them so I could do right by them. Yeah..

[@the_exegete]

But Bojack Horseman does have one perfectly well-adjusted, mentally stable, and all-around good person in the cast: Character Actress Margo Martindale.

[@harrisonhaine1199]

her only flaw is that she stirs olive oil into pasta

[@mezz09smezzanine]

@@harrisonhaine1199 And for that, she won't be in heaven... But her movies will!

[@peter.abbott7146]

Um...her name is BELOVED Character Actress Margo Martindale......

[@Ahuizotl_Yolotl]

@@peter.abbott7146 umm. Beloved actress Margo Martindale is kinda redundant don't you think? Like, how can Margo Martindale not be beloved?

[@nicklewis470]

Beloved character actress and fugitive from the law Margo Martindale*

[@tyrant-den884]

I will give Bojack this: his empathy has grown. Even before season 6. His last couple of crashes came from emotions for others instead of the purely selfish motives of the early seasons.

[@TheDrinkyDude]

Actually all his break downs were him showing his empathy for others, he just uses alcohol and drugs aka bad choices to hide from his guilt of hurting others, which lead to more bad choices aka more hurting others

[@Crawver]

I've always thought this. Every crash post season 2 was a little better than the last. A little less monstrous. Season 5's was drug fuelled in a system that got him hooked. It was on him that he didn't seek help, but he didn't make the decision initially to take the meds (or at least was unaware of the potential consequences in a non-selfish manner). He still isn't doing the right thing, but he's slowly going further from the worst thing each time.

[@howardbankler66]

Tyrant-Den I guess everyday day it becomes a little easier

[@tyrant-den884]

@@TheDrinkyDude to a degree. And that is just one example; season four Bojack would hardly be tripping over himself to sabotage Todd to keep him in the house.

[@TheDrinkyDude]

@@tyrant-den884 that was more he didn't want to be left alone because he would only have himself to blame, but I see your point

[@entropias_gonos]

The point of the show's ultimate story arc isn't to excuse Bojack for his past actions, but to bring him to the point where he's capable to accept the weight and the responsibility for those actions.

[@entropias_gonos]

@Bob Bobbertson that's pretty much three levels deep. The show's arch for the main character, ultimately boils down to him holding him self responsible for his actions and welcoming his punishment as a just outcome.

[@Puerco-Potter]

@@entropias_gonos A punishment that could not come...

[@frankwest5388]

ΕΝtRoPΐA {-s γόνος} I’d say, it’s somehow both

[@finnorourke4861]

Yes, especially after the new episodes just came out

[@ina733]

OHHHHHHH

[@mitnerd36]

"Is there a point in your life where you've hurt enough people that your own personal evolution becomes irrelevant" seems a pretty good summary of the show's dialectic.

[@Isaacindelicato123]

Jake Minter wat. How is that your main takeaway from the show lmao

[@jankoleon3785]

Well that's depressing

[@williamwoolf8072]

@@Isaacindelicato123 watching shows is like building up a palette for fine cuisine or wine. you need to learn all the flavor profiles before you can truly appreciate it. people that dont have enough intelligence or dont have enough experience will not be able to comprehend the underlying message of a show as complex and multi-layerd as bojack horseman

[@cooldude56g]

BoJack Horsemen was a really important show for me. It was one of the only television shows that made me feel like, in life, not everything turns out OK, and maybe not everything WILL be OK. And that was kind of a message I needed to hear.

[@briannenurse4640]

Right? It seems counterintuitive that it should be so, but seeing the dark reality portrayed on Bojack is like a balm to the soul. It made me think differently about so much, and helped me unlock a whole new perspective on life.

[@vetren23]

Yeh man, watch californication if you get the chance. Mainly because the creators of Bojack said it was a source of inspiration and shares a lot of themes but also because anything with David Duchovny in it is just godly.

[@vetren23]

Yeh man, watch californication if you get the chance. Mainly because the creators of Bojack said it was a source of inspiration and shares a lot of themes but also because anything with David Duchovny in it is just godly.

[@marcusanark2541]

@@vetren23 Californication is wonderful, by the end it felt like they were my real friends moving away.

[@Whofan06]

Thats what made the finale so important for all that it dragged out. It ended without that big moment of knowing they were okay in the end, everyone is still working on their flaws, even Diane and Bojack reconcile in a way that doesn't feel like they're ever really going to go back to being close friends. But thats the way life is. Nothing really ends, the conflicts and flaws don't go away after the epilogue, its a constant struggle that takes work every single day to face. It seems still pretty depressing but all that comes after what would have been a devastating alternative if Bojack had just died the episode before. The way those two episodes are paired is what maked the finale so hopeful, cause for all that life kicks you in the ass, its better than being dead. Its better than the cold black nothing.

[@invock]

"Time's Arrow" remains to this day the best and most traumatic TV episode I have ever seen. Ever.

[@nerlinecadet]

So true even the song stays with you

[@hambone.fakenamington]

@@buchichu7034 wow even as a fellow Star Trek fan I found this comment obnoxious. Like, good for you, buddy, real useful.

[@mjstory1976]

Free Churo is the best and most impactful episode for me

[@drehitemup9904]

Free churo

[@invock]

Free Churo is a close second in the Bojack series for the performance and the rollercoaster of emotions. But Time's Arrow hits way harder.

[@danielborza4399]

"It takes a long time to realize how truly miserable you are, even longer to see it doesn't have to be that way." That line changed my life.

[@julesvox]

"I was skeptical about wireless headphones until they sponsored this video."

[@ChristianThueringer]

Yeah, was thinking the same...

[@LIMBERG921]

@Bob Bobbertson Tegridy!

[@pedroclaro7822]

@Bob Bobbertson know of any better and similar channels?

[@somkeshav4143]

well they need money, don't they?

[@xKumei]

@Bob Bobbertson Because you keep clicking on it. :^)

[@rosecity_chris]

That under water episode was one of the greatest animated episodes I've ever seen.

[@JJJameson.]

That was one of the greatest pieces of media I've ever seen. It's not that it was as good as, let's say, Crime and punishment(my favorite book), but it managed to do an impossible amount of storytelling in ridiculously little time.

[@Velociferon]

I agree. It made me like the show so much more

[@ddsjgvk]

No he keeps the vodka water bottle around because it reminds him of the bottle Sarah Lynn drank out of as a kid. That's why he sees the same set of stars what's in the planetarium

[@j.m9136]

Exactly. It's a reminder of what he can't be anymore.

[@Puerco-Potter]

It's doesn't matter how much you change now, you can't bring back Sarah Lynn. You being a shitty person had consequences that are irremediable...you will never be a Good Person anymore.

[@j.m9136]

@@Puerco-Potter I respectfully disagree, to some extent. No, he cannot bring Sarah Lynn back. He fucked up. Horribly. And that stain won't ever leave him. But he wants to do better, has been doing better. While he'll never be perfect, he's trying to be a good (horse)man, and acting on it. It's a start. And maybe one day he'll be good

[@eduardusleeuwenhoofd6870]

I thought it acted as a token, a visible threat of relapsing te alcohol. The stars to me symbolize the void of alcohol, the deep and alone feeling it creates and the emptiness it leaves behind

[@j.m9136]

@@eduardusleeuwenhoofd6870 I definitely get the idea that it's sorta a threat, but I still feel it's a threat connected with the starts, like at the planetarium. The planetarium, too, is a reminder of so many people he's hurt. The alcohol is a return to the planetarium, a return to who he once was. "You let me back into your life, you're going to hurt them again".

[@Trxpamvs]

I know people look different without a beard but damm Jared you look like a whole different person 😳

[@IsuiGtz]

I swear to God, without that beard he is one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen, at least to my understanding.

[@novideoscorp]

Wait thats a dude?

[@IsuiGtz]

@@novideoscorp No. You are a dude. This is an angel.

[@novideoscorp]

@@IsuiGtz a male angel or female angel?

[@edgbarra]

@@eumemo4814 dude, we get it, you're lonely, there not enough reason for harassment

[@Yellowcardpony]

"We might have gone too dark on that series finale."

[@notdizzie_69]

Bojack kills himself for the finale

[@Puerco-Potter]

"He died because you didn't appreciate him enough as a father."

[@EmilyHenthorn]

Bob Bobbertson I totally agree, the whole narrative of the show is centered around BoJack’s need to take responsibility for his actions and acknowledge the people he’s hurt. He wants someone to hold him accountable for his actions, asking Diane to write a take down about him for example. If BoJack were to kill himself it would be contradictory to all the progress and development he has underwent. The only satisfying way to end the series is for BoJack to hold himself accountable for all the people he’s hurt. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

[@harrisonhaine1199]

@Bob Bobbertson maybe the show goes full circle and he just reverts to the same old drunk fool

[@holleyhoffman6011]

SO dark 😂

[@mezz09smezzanine]

While this is certainly interesting, I think you have missed something. Characters DO change, especially bojack... but it's in subtle ways that the characters don't notice. E.g. after the wanda episode with the "l" word, bojack seems to have a much easier time admitting to certain people that he loves them. After Sarah Lynn he stop denying his drug and alcohol issues. In season 1 he'll plot a sabotage at the drop of a hat, but in later season only when drunk and reeeaaally pissed off. I think Todds changes are the most notable though, aside from his Repulsed Ace arc, he's learned how to take some responsibility and act like an adult. PC seems to have learned to self care. Diane has developed direction over the years. The only character that doesnt seem to change is Mr Peanutbutter, and they make a big deal out of that from as early as episode 5, "I'm an old dog, and I'm not going to change". The wild horses scene I feel I should make particular mention that he sees them BEFORE he stops, and seems to only stop because he saw them. I actually hadn't noticed the connection to the running in season 2, but now that you mention it I am also thinking it connects to the interview with secretariat that bojack half heard over his parents shouting. "When life gets you down, bojack, you run." I could rant about the layers in that interview for days and how they echo through so much of bojacks actions and character, but I'll save that for my ted talk.

[@carlohinojosa372]

I feel the same, the premise is not "people don't change"

[@trafficcontrol2420]

He couldn't tell Holly Hock he loved her after dropping her off at the airport in Season 5. He's still not able to say those words to the people he loves.

[@mezz09smezzanine]

​@@trafficcontrol2420 He still struggles, especially with family, but he is able to tell Todd and PC and Sarah-Lynn each that he loves them in ways that are clearly from the heart, something he was never able to do before, as PC specifically points out in season one. Family is different, especially with Bojack's family history, but PC made it clear that he could never say it before, and now he can, even he can't say it to everyone. That's a change. Not just any change, but the best kind - growth.

[@yllowturtl]

They didn't miss anything, they said that in sitcoms characters change a litte but their traits and quirks are the same. It's a very basic TV Script trick, you change your characters just little enough for people to think they are seeing something different every episode. Sitcoms do it too, character become more aware of their quirks or make a lifechanging decision but that doesn't change much. Yes, Bojack becomes more aware of his addictions, but he is still an adicct, same goes for the other characters. The great thing is how the last season is unfolding the end of everyone's journey to become a little better in life.

[@mezz09smezzanine]

​@@yllowturtl While that is a very common trick, I don't think that is what is happening here, because the changes we see in Bojack do have an effect. They are not a complete turn around, but they are definitely making changes to his life, and while I was not referring to his addiction, I don't think even that stays the same - he gets better and worse as the seasons go on, with a noticeable drop in drinking when he is living with Charlotte and rises during many of the darker parts of the series, then around season 3 alcohol seems to go from a habit to a need. I think the drugs aren't really an addiction until season 5, as we only see them used on a few occasions and those are usually with sarah lynn present. Notable also, only had a couple of references to Todd smoking pot after he left Bojack's house, and I don't think any since he moved in with PC. Most of the changes I was thinking of though were to do with his interactions with other people. His personality does change across the seasons, he's still bojack, still just like we know him, except he's gradually less mean to people, less spiteful, less annoyed by the existence of happy people... His character stays the same, but it's growing bit by bit that does effect his life as the seasons go on. Thinking about it deeper, there seems to be a major change in how Bojack behaves each season, after season 1 he stops trying to change or deny the past, now he usually sighs and owns up to it, with a few exceptions. after sesaon 2 he has stopped trying to run away from the consequences (possibly connected to the running themes), now seeing them through and finding the consequences to be not all that painful, with a few exceptions. After season 3 he stops trying to push everyone away, especially the few interactions he has with Todd after that, not counting while tripping, after season 4 he starts actively seeking connection with people other than parental figures, seeking a deeper relationship with Gina and trying to maintain the connection he still has, and then after season 5 he is mostly in rehab, so I'm not sure we can tell all that much about his habits. All of these changes have had a major effect on where the story went next, things have changed and not just for bojack. Todd has moved out, leaving bojack alone, and learned to accept himself as asexual, leading to a suddenly appearing love life. PB and Dianne are divorced, after a rocky marriage shown from start, to decay, to finish. Princess Carolyn left the big firm, started her own and shifted her career direction. Peoples lives had major changes long before season 6, not all of them for the better, but many of them coming with a shift in personality and how they interact with the world. It's not a completely different person, and it shouldn't be. People don't change 100% all at once, they change bit by bit and constantly. Those Epiphany moments rarely tell us to move half way across the world and live with the monkeys, but often do change how we interact with the world to varying degrees, and I think that is what is being shown in Bojack. It's not some pseudo-change, it's character growth. It's just taken him this long to get to the point where he can accept the help and start dealing with addiction.

[@IanMarkind]

If you look at BoJack from the timeline of his entire life, he underwent extreme changes. He was a timid, soft-spoken child, he was initially a teenage dork that was bullied, and he seemed like a genuinely decent, completely sober guy in the early years of Horsin' Around, before he became submerged in the tar-pit of Hollywoo.

[@yellow_jacket3260]

“So a guy goes to a doctor and says: “Doctor, it hurts when I do this!” Do you know what the doctor says?” “What?” “Don’t do that” Best Joke on television

[@SpaceLordLono]

Yellow_Jacket and the funniest part? That doctor was a woman. Wwwwwhhhhaaaaattttt!!!!

[@pedroclaro7822]

I.e. Dr. House and the patient who slept on his Arm

[@MarrilMcBlazen]

An outstanding metaphor for what changing means

[@hueydavisx5187]

The best joke imo was Wanda's joke about the gardener and his compost sack. That was true genius, HBO's Watchmen made a similar joke in a recent episode and I'm pretty sure they took their inspiration from BH, cause I can't recall myself having ever heard something similar on TV before.

[@yellow_jacket3260]

HueyDavisX Yeah, that joke was pretty funny, hell Wanda in her entirety is funny, I don’t think I didn’t laugh at any one of her jokes. But I like this joke because it isn’t actually a joke really, more of just life advice that really resonated with me. Because of it I think Charlotte is a really underrated character, she says some pretty insightful shit that I think about a lot. To bad that her situation is the only thing that people remember with her, she’s such a good character, I wish she stuck around, but I understand she can’t.

[@lotoole91]

"Princess Carolyn went from ruthless to... Ruthie" should have been one of the lines

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

_You know, sometimes I feel like I was born a leak, and any goodness I started out with just slowly spilled out of me, and now it's all gone._ *~ Bojack Horseman*

[@mixedbusiness1]

Oof. He said it with words.

[@flytrapYTP]

@@mixedbusiness1 how else do you say things 🗿

[@sirsplintfastthepungent1373]

"How can I show you Zen, unless you first empty your cup?" - Parable of a Tea Cup

[@leapbeforeyoulook201]

And there's no way to put it back.

[@the_exegete]

Kinda weird to say Horsin' Around is based on The Cosby Show when it's clearly a direct parody of Full House. Kids these days, I tell ya, no respect for the classics.

[@april8940]

this made me smile and giggle. thank you.

[@elleofhearts8471]

but...the Cosby show IS a classic...

[@richardsantanna5398]

Eh, old sitcoms sucked anyway.

[@radhiadeedou8286]

I think it's neither and both, just a parody of all the 80s/90s family sitcoms

[@thepants1450]

Definitely a pastiche of many

[@moayadqabbari]

The more I see Helen hosting episodes of Wisecrack the more I'm convinced it's just Jared wearing a mocap suit!! Kudos to the VFX team!!

[@calbanar]

Moayad Qabbari That skin is too smooth, it must be the result of CGI! BUSTED.

[@xgrove]

Right, it's like they have the same way of talking, but it's just a different voice.

[@moayadqabbari]

@@xgrove Right? Same body language and almost identical mannerism! lol I thought I'm the only one haha!

[@limetheslime1]

I love these analyses. They're so in depth and approachable. They have really helped me consume media in a different way. Thanks wisecrack!

[@devilsadvocate2643]

@Bob Bobbertson Idk, when they bring philosophically accurate authors it's quite spot on. But this kind of analysis is really average... Mostly saying the same thing for 90% of the time and bringing a new 2-3 things every 5mn.

[@growingoaks]

14:22 while it's a portrait of himself as Narcissus, the symbolism behind the gift was realized when Ruthie destroyed it, essentially metaphorically saying that he's no longer that type of guy. It was one of his favorites after all, so this makes sense.

[@Shadrio]

I'm just surprised that the mid-season finale didn't include the ginger man from the show, since if I remember correctly, he had hedged his entire life's savings and more on a show that Bojack was supposed to star in, only for him to get blown off. Sure, Bojack was suicidal then, but ginger kid must have lost everything, since his wife was against the show in the first place. Sure, it's not strangled ex-girlfriend, sexual assault and traumatization or "got my ex-co-star to OD" bad, but he still must have completely ruined his life.

[@nabhanq]

pretty sure he made the show when he was in the sugarman house he was watching it

[@c3ru1ean41]

@@nabhanqdifferent show

[@naomistarlight6178]

Mr. Peanutbutter changes the most. It was touching when he cried over seeing the set pieces in a museum and being there with Bojack so that it was like the crossover episode he never got.

[@VBall1295]

The theme of change in Bojack is one of the reasons I've been watching the show. I've been trying to change so much myself. I'm not at the level of Bojack's, but there are no shortage of things I regret and want to change about myself, and try to rectify and atone for, but the change seems to never happen. Like Bojack, I may change for a few days or a few weeks, but ultimately, I fall back to my old habits and wallow in self pity. The season 8 mid-season finale has me scared as I've been rooting for Bojack, hoping that he can achieve that change, become a better person and lead a better life, but with the final scene, despite the new path Bojack, it seems like ultimately everything in his past will catch up and he'll once again be dragged back down to the narcissistic alcoholic abyss he's always been in. If Bojack can never permanently change, does that mean I'll never be able to?

[@devilsadvocate2643]

Bojack became ready to face his past mistakes when going to see all the people he significantly hurt. The past will catch up, but he's arming himself to face this and not to fall back on his previous habits. I believe Hollyhock finding out and Sarah Lynn's death will be the ultimate trial to see if he worked enough on himself to break this last wall and finally accomplish durable changes and break his vicious cycles permanently. But for the rest, it's also a show, whatever happens is the writer's decisions. You write your own story, with your own choices.

[@robertstrauss837]

I think Bojack will end up relapsing at the very end of the show and we won't find out if ithe relapse is a temporary setback in his recovery and struggle to become a better person or if his recovery is a temporary fluke in his endless parade of vices and selfishness. That ending, in my opinion, would be the most fitting because it mirrors our own struggles to change ourselves: we never know if we have truly changed who we are or if it's meerly surface-level because we know we will always have the potential to change again for better or worse.

[@GabrielGabeRodriguez]

Spot on bro! Todd said it best, "then you'll get sober again, everyday you will beat your own record"

[@Ray-op7xc]

@@GabrielGabeRodriguez A really amazing quote tbh.. It's honestly really comforting and motivating in the way that for a long time I felt like a failure because I'd struggle with my bad habits and it'd get better for a while and then I'd relapse back into them. So I thought my efforts ultimately didn't really matter. Hearing this is so cathartic and eye-opening to be honest. Another amazing metaphor for this is that when you're trying to grow and change it might feel like you're running in circles, always ending back in the same situation as before but you should rather envision it as slowly going up a winding staircase, basically moving through cycles with its ups and downs but ultimately getting higher.

[@TheHPExperiment]

I feel like another great show to talk about in regards to this topic is the greatest betrayal in all of sitcom history, How I Met Your Mother. The show is all about change. The characters evolve throughout the seasons, particularly the main character, Ted. There is an entire gorgeous metaphorical scene devoted to him letting go of his feelings for Robin. And then a few short episodes later, all of it is thrown in the garbage. All of the characters regress back to what they were before and it all starts over again. The whole show builds up the idea of The Mother sooooo much in tandem with Ted's feelings for Robin. Ted's feelings for Robin only get deeper and deeper as the show goes on, making the audience think "Man, The Mother must be absolutely AMAZING to make Ted finally get over these crazy intense feelings for Robin". But then in the finale, The Mother dies and Ted goes right back to Robin. It's an utterly disgusting insult. To everyone involved. The characters, the actors who portray them, but most importantly, the audience.

[@ace_of_spades4457]

I love Wisecracks takes on Bojack Horseman

[@Tacom4ster]

This sorta ripped off another essay kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4nHmnyditKZaK8

[@Call-me-Al]

It's a show I can't really watch because of how horrible he is, so I deeply appreciate these videos! I know it's a worthwhile show, but it's more acutely hurting and showing its raw inner self than Arrested Development so the cost for the payoff doesn't work out for me. I couldn't deal with either of the two "The Office"s either.

[@makielcepeda9003]

If BoJack kills himself I will be devastated

[@johnathanparker2182]

Wisecrack apparently doesn't change either. Different content, but same mannerisms and rhythm

[@nobodyinparticular8370]

Just the way I love it Still waiting for the return of thug notes though I miss my homie, Sparky Sweets

[@JeremyPickett]

Fantastic analysis of one of the greatest shows of all time. As you point out, the tension of change/growth versus immutability is *the* central tenant of the show. That is why the deaths of Sarah and herb felt so [expletive] painful. It wasn't like other sitcoms where characters would just disappear, it wasn't like shows where characters would come back. They died horribly, and are gone. Just gone. *Wonderful* analysis, and I wish you a fantastic weekend.

[@franz8072]

I believe the point of the show is to love yourself no matter what. And that means being responsible for your actions even if nobody else points out your mistakes. Also, you should not give up on you even if everybody else does.

[@matheusdemoura3579]

Bojack is about the strive to change, not the inability. They do change and get better, and then worse again. But each season they are a little different, just like the running man said it would be.

[@lordsxman]

Am I the only one that thinks she talks like Jared???

[@ScuzoidMelee]

The script she's reading sounds like it could've been written for or by Jared, or he normally reads scripts written for or by her. Starts talking about 50 tacos being a better investment (I agree) than headphones and you're left questioning who's the actual taco addict at Wisecrack.

[@owendubs]

A lot of them talk with the same inflections and rhythm as Jared. I figure that he's the one that coaches all of them on video presentation and as a result all of them homogenized into Jared-ized speech patterns just like news people all talking the same.

[@n3n3b3n3]

guessing that due to the way the script is written

[@mrgresick]

Why didn’t you go into depth about Bojack’s eulogy at his mom’s funeral?! Best episode ever!

[@robspiess]

They even used a still from that episode for this video's thumbnail

[@the_exegete]

One of the all-time greatest punchlines.

[@zenosyne7920]

That on it's own deserve a Wisecrack standalone episode

[@bobtwista]

But yes trying to be a better person is never irrelevant regardless of how many ppl you’ve hurt in the past because it should matter to yourself and will definitely matter to those you’ll interact with in the future. No your past indiscretions don’t magically get forgiven or become excusable but the goal is to have less indiscretions moving forward not to erase the past

[@ironickomedakin]

i missed your bojack videos wisecrack!! please continue xx

[@fcv4616]

It’s an interesting analysis, but I’d argue that the show’s morale is that we CAN change, but only after we confront the root of our misery. Also, that change is gradual, with ups and downs. Lastly, that no amount of evolution entitle us to the forgiveness from others from our mistakes. It’s a balance of evolving and constantly having to face the consequences of our past.

[@tunaste]

The bounciness of that curl alone was enough for a like.

[@maximnicola4182]

"...and hurts the people he loves" *shows scene with Mr. Peanutbutter

[@TheMakaveli31don]

I love Bojack episodes so much. I just wish every episode was a Bojack episode so that I could always be happy. When I don't get Bojack episodes, I am sad which is ironic since the show is such a sad show. But I guess there are times when it is happy too, so it balances out. Thank you Based God for this new Wisecrack Bojack episode and let's just jump right into it!

[@StayCovert]

You matched Jareds energy/vibe really well

[@VidaxTheDragonMage]

Meaning can never be found in either extreme but in the middle path. We do not change drastically immediately, that always leaves us in failure. But we do cycle, and in each cycle we can edge closer to the path we want to be on. Bojack warns against a few things, but the futility of change is not one of them: 1. the dangers of selling your identity to the public. 2. the need for close interpersonal connection and family is present in all of us, he has the option to ebrace tod as family but fails, mr peanut butter as a willing best friend, but bojack distains him. this brings me to: 3. The dangers of nostalgia. Looking back on a time with nostalgia is a worthless and fruitless endevor. living in the moment is the more effective strategy. bojack fails to forgive himself, and forget his perceived greatness. Bojack's lesson in a nutshell: do not get trapped in grandure. Care for those around you.

[@VidaxTheDragonMage]

the importance of a text is it's subtext and the lesson to be learned from failures

[@Trxpamvs]

Is it just me or does Jared look kinda weird today 🤨

[@Mahawww]

Yeah man like I'm not even gay but he looks kinda attractive

[@nerobsc7597]

😂😂😂

[@anyhonywilliams6160]

I noticed his hair wasn't as luscious as normal 😉

[@WouldYouKindlyGWAR]

looking hella cute not gonna lie

[@chrlorez]

They recently changed the lighting on set.

[@IAmNumber4000]

I hope it means something that shows are now willing to engage with the reality of what it means to be a human, rather than burying it like they did before.

[@ryangermani5593]

This showe has meant a lot to me and I'm never really happy with endings but then again mabey that's the bojack in me

[@Johnlindsey289]

As Molly and Schmendrick in the 1982 animated fantasy classic and 1968 fantasy classic book The Last Unicorn once said "What if there isn't a happy ending at all?" "There are no happy endings because nothing ends"

[@ECL28E]

THis is the final season, but the best part is, I have no idea how it's going to end.

[@CoCreeed]

I think change to become a better person is irrelevant as long as is doesnt reduce suffering in others. I can start running, i can stop drinking, whatever, in a cosmological or a long term it doesnt matter, if i still cause suffering in others directly (abuse, ...) or indirect (buying stuff, which was build through exploitation, animal products, ...), that is the only thing worth changing about myself in my opinion.

[@dislecsyk991]

I don't think Mr PB lived in blissful ignorance, and that's why he's such a tragic character. He spends the whole time not trying to change himself, but trying to change everything around him to fit his idealised view of the world, because that's what he believes would make him happy. The other characters have a tough task in trying to change themselves, his is literally impossible.

[@CarlosSuarez-uv3mt]

The problem with BoJack has been quite evident to me since season 1, when we was telling Diane and the rest of the board of ghost writers to tell him that he's good. As we all now know, he grew up in a unloving family circle, with parents that verbally and psychologically abused him a lot; they were both selfish, and that's the example BoJack grew up with. Despite all the things he later received and accomplished in life, he still was resentful towards those experiences and, unconciously, took it out on the world and those around him. I am not excusing his actions, because like Todd once said: he can't blame what happened to him for the things he does and has done to others, because at the end of the day it is us who decide to be a certain way. Some self-destructive cycles are harder to break than others, and that's definitely true when it comes to BoJack, who seemingly never managed to do so in time. Change isn't impossible, people can change, but in BoJack's case, change came too little too late.

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

This how has changed the way I think about and see the world, Bojack I see is a tale about how one should not deal depression, regret, mental illness, and really I see it has something that taught me that it’s ok to be angry at someone’s Nd not easily forgive, but at the same time don’t hold a grudge and to sometimes let go. To threat others the way you wanna be treated, with kindness, forgiveness, understanding, and it’s ok to be sad or want happiness, everyday it gets a little easier.

[@jrmorales86]

We're so scared of death, that we created time and repeat the cycles of the "good times" so go with comfort instead of change. Humans sure are cowards

[@geminikid609]

We still growing

[@oliviaest]

When you mentioned how Hollywoo doesn’t change, it immediately brought me back to what Charlotte said about her distaste of the city. Imagine trying to move forward while inside of a tar pit! I never realized how the tar pit metaphor is a constant underbelly for the whole show until now.

[@pdzombie1906]

Funny how the most realistic sitcom in television history is animated... Can't wait to see your take on the final season... Thanx!!!

[@Johnlindsey289]

What about Undone or classic Simpsons?

[@Ragnarokflare1]

I JUST WANT TO SEE BOJACK HAPPY DAMN IT!

[@michellemackay6684]

I think looking to Avatar:The Last Air Bender or an answer on the question "have you made some many mistakes that you can't be changed and/or forgiven?" Gives us a better perspective on the state of Bojack and the other characters in the show. In ATLA Fire Lord Ozai by most is to far gone. His hurt so may people and he doesn't see that anything he's doing is wrong or even wants to change. However Aang didn't want to just kill him for that. Although Ozai isn't going to change or see that he was wrong he also wasn't forgiven persay for his. On the other hand we have zuko. He makes so many mistakes throughout the running of the show. But through those mistakes he realizes the harm they/he has done. Once Zuko figures out that he doesn't want to live the life Ozai layed out for him he realizes how important and true the things iro said to him where. This making him deeply regret throwing iro under the bus, therefore Zuko works hard on fixing his wrong doing and works on changing himself. It's because we got to see so many of Zuko's mistakes that we can truly appreciate his growth. Zuko didn't grow despite his mistakes. he grew because of his mistakes. Where does Bojack fall in all of this. Is he to old to change his ways? Has he made to many mistakes? Can he change? We'll I think he can although I don't believe that will go smoothly or fast. He will probably die feeling like he didn't have enough time to make a difference.

[@alpha_berchermuesli5975]

i do hope change is possible. but i fear genetics and habits you learned make it hard to rewire oneself. it is exhaustive to constantly "fake it until you make it"

[@rozzaziobrown6515]

How old was Bojack when he got famous again? I fully buy in to the theory that many celebrities get mentally stuck at whatever age they reached their peak.

[@JimmyNails27]

Change is only possible when internally motivated. One should arrive to be better in spite of its futility... Happy Sisyphus and all that jazz.

[@JimmyNails27]

*strive

[@romanespinosa4084]

Always good to see Helen, good episode as usual

[@capybaragames347]

I feel the message is two dimensional in Bojack Horseman as it shows through Bojack our own behaviour when encountering change or change in ourselves. Studies have shown that when we encounter change we resist it at first until we grow comfortable with it to conform. We see this in Bojack who constantly encounters change or the need for himself to change and insted of conforming to it he resists it, until he realises that this resistance has hurt those around him and then he is comfortable enough to conform becoming a better person. On the other hand the show suggests we cannot run from who we used to be, we cannot change completely and if we try our past will come back to haunt us as shown through the reporters investigating the death of Sarah Lynn an Holly Hawk finding out what Bojack did in New Mexico. Bojack in accepting to change himself has not reconciled with his past self creating a new dilemma, "what if the past we like to forget resurfaces after we have become a new person"; do we go back to our old self creating a present which will become the past we like to forget, or will we rise above it by accepting it happened and moving on with our lives with our deepest and darkest secrets exposed. I think this is the new direction of Bojack Horseman

[@AndreaRuizCa]

I kinda hope bojack gets accountable for all the things he has done. It will send a strong message to the audience and it's probably what most of us would want if we were victims of a person like bojack. Having said that it would also be so confrotacional to watch since we saw he wanted to change and we do kinda love him! But still he has ruined so many lives. This is gonna be a crazy ending.

[@AndreaRuizCa]

@Liz Lee I think it this way: In my country, we have a lot of bojacks hurting people, especially women, and they neeeever get accountable. Celebrities, and especially politicians. At the same time, these people are your neighbors (literally) or friends so it makes things so complicated but I think still, regardless of how "good" they are trying to be. At some point past will catch on and victims will have some justice. Yeah, im in Mexico were my friends and family have been hurt by a bojack before.

[@Sbonelo_]

One thing i loved with Bojack from the start!!. Was his truthness the guy. He always says what he thinks, well not always but he tells the truth way more than average humans!

[@chris999999999999]

I've been rewatching the series and I'm wondering if the finale episode will be the old intro. After the world crushes him, he has one last party before losing the house and drowns in the pool.

[@musicfreak31751]

So what did you think??

[@Jarod-vg9wq]

Change is one of the hardest things you can do but it gets a little easier, we can all change and make ours and others life’s better when we want them to.

[@TheTruthSentMe]

Excellent analysis. Makes me enjoy these shows even more. Good job and thank you.

[@PirateSometimes]

It's so good, the characters feel real

[@squirrels666]

I swear i heard her say "impossible with a capital I N". Even listened to it again.

[@TWHueyGuitar]

We live in a society that rejects any and all notions of redemption. Bojack will either die (via suicide) or go to jail as a reflection of said society.

[@Mahawww]

Habits are hard to break cause they're the default way your brain acts and most of the time it rewards itself for doing them. BUT, it IS possible to change them, it takes A SHIT TON of effort but you CAN rewire your brain to a way that you prefer. The hard part though is not falling back into those habits while you're trying to change them (or even after you think you've changed) cause for your brain every time you do something against your habits it's like going agains the flow of a river it's really hard and it's a lot easier to just let the river take you in its currents but each time you go against the current it becomes weaker, slightly but surely. Flip side though is everytime you fall into habits the current becomes stronger and harder to go against, same for trying to change and falling back into the habit, as it becomes a habit in and of itself to try and let yourself fail, giving you double the currents to work against. So there's no shortcut other than Perserverance and continuing even if you fail occasionally cause giving up stacks the odds against you next time you try.

[@TheTrueCaptainAwesome]

The punchline in all of this is that everyone in this show tries to change for others. And that never, EVER fucking works. YOU must want YOU to be better for YOU. Then, and only, then can you even begin to make reparations.

[@liverman9000]

I was wondering when you guys were going to make a BoJack video. I'm not sure why not many others are talking about this show

[@sethg2179]

I love that the show is hyper aware it's easy to relate and root for the protagonist even if they are a shitty person (which is what the entire season of Philbert revolves around). Just when we see actual change in Bojack to become a better person, they remind the audience that this doesn't wipe the slate clean. He still wronged other people and changing himself won't change what he did to others. The writers DONT want us to think Bojack is a good person and they do an amazing job portraying mental illness while also showing that it doesn't excuse super shitty manipulative behavior

[@cbrocafe]

Bojack is the single most underrated show in my eyes. People overlook it because it's animated which is sad but even though the stories on the surface are over the top they are so well written and cut so deep that they are the most realistic portrayals of the harsh realities of life. I feel like even if it's too late for Bojack that him changing still has a positive impact on those around him. And them pushing for change is what will be his legacy.

[@Johnlindsey289]

Why is animation and puppetry treated as kids stuff?

[@BB4L4991]

Great episode and insight as always! At 16:34 an amazing beat starts playing! Can someone please tell me the name of this song?!

[@christieramirez7548]

Bojack has proved that change is possible, but it's not so much the everyday part that has be put into practice. Although, I will give it that it is why Bojack is so successful in Rehab, cause it was everyday. But it is also finding out what it is that is stopping you from changing, trauma, self-hatred, scared of the future, whatever it might be, and face it head on. You can try to say you'll change all you want, but if you dont put the work where you really need to, it wont work. If one does not address what is holding them back, not looking at the people around them, and asking for the proper help, then this person has a very small chance of changing.

[@matiquielma]

I must say, the episode where Bojack throws that monologue on his mother's funeral (or so he thought) really made me put the show on a new level in my head. That's when it went from funny and interesting to a fully immersive piece of art

[@xx420jin69xx]

I like that Bojack feels like a reminder that real change and self improvement takes time, effort, and sometimes pain. Throwing off your old habits and behaviors isn't as simple as practicing gratitude or repeating positive aphorisms to yourself everday. Those little things are important, but if you don't tackle the difficult stuff, you'll never experience lasting growth.

[@growingoaks]

11:07 slight correction, the bender lasted at least a month, very possibly even longer. With the disjointed blackout structure of the episode "That's too much man!", There are large time skips and they mention it was going on for a while.

[@tolman4497]

It is sorta clear they didn’t pay perfect attention to the show.

[@brysonturner6019]

The first of Season 6 was to show that change is possible. However, the second half will put that change to the test. With BoJack especially, now that he's in a better place, he will likely be able to take responsibility for those that he hurt. If BoJack's changes have set in, then he'll take responsibility and own up to what he did. However, if he starts to spiral and make excuses and start victim-blaming, then he'll just spiral right back. I'm hopeful it's the former. I really want BoJack to find peace. I really do.

[@lehpares]

Agree. BoJack is fantastic. What will happen in the second half of season 6? I’m expecting a really bumpy ride and a crash at the end.

[@NILgravity]

Pam on the office is an exception. She overheard oscar criticize her for not being a brave person and she then realized she needed to start being more honest with herself and others about what she wants from life. If she never heard that she would have ended up staying with Roy.

[@mike8102]

I had to wait to watch until i finished season 6. I have been relating to bojack extremely well. The last two episodes made me cry today. I couldn't exactly place why but you nailed it. Is the damage I caused too much for even the biggest transformation. Gotta admit this show has hit me harder than almost anything i've watched or played.

[@ssd431]

Maybe bojack will live with the burden of all the lives his ruined and it will eventually overwhelm him and cause a type of defeat. He will probably realize That the effort it took to change was out weighted by the damages he’s caused.

[@JustusWilcox]

The thought of me changing keeps me going.

[@devilsadvocate2643]

Same here, what you trying to change in your life ? Maybe you can inspire people ere :)

[@maxalmonte14]

Bojack Horseman is one of the best shows I've ever seen in my life.

[@jonahromero7476]

Changing oneself is definitely not impossible. Bojack horseman does show the truth of change: it takes repeated attempts at change. Chances are you will blackslide and go back to your old ways, but what's important is how long it takes to change again. Maybe at first it's 2 weeks. Maybe eventually it's a week and a half. It'll get better, so long as you keep doing it.

[@stoodmuffinpersonal3144]

Watching BoJack is like clawing out my own eyes and yet I love it. It does not pull punches.

[@lucasmartinez3860]

i love how its make you connect with their problems like sis i cried in every sad scene tf

[@LeLeB37]

I think the show is just real when it comes to its characters, especially Bojack. Life happens. It's not all fun and it's not all horrible. You can't run from it. You have to deal with it as it comes to you. Whatever it is. And it is true that these are the most emotionally developed characters in a cartoon ever. I am sad that they are going away. Hopefully the creator will try their hand at a new cartoon series soon. However it ends I have truly enjoyed the journey.

[@dionnoid01]

I think this downplays some of the evolutions the characters go through throughout the series. I mean they are going to become completely different people, but as they overcome hurdles in season 1, new hurdles arise. Their fundamental issues are still their fundamental issues, they just manifest differently with each new problem. Some character do a lot of learning like how Todd learns pretty early on to have more self respect and the other characters start to hold themselves and Bojack accountable for their actions. I think the only character who goes through minimal changes until the last season is Bojack due to his refusal to take responsibility, and even then he is learning lessons, just not necessarily the ones he’s meant to learn until he finally more self aware of his impact on others. It’s starts as early as Todd’s rock opera, but because he isn’t aware of the traits he is emulating from his parents, he doesn’t realize their true source and reverts when he feels his sense of normal being threatened. One change would be his response to guilt over the series: early on he pushed it down, where later in the series he increasingly feels the need to be punished and then later still to repent.

[@byardnick]

I think BoJack probably has done more harm than can be undone by him changing for the better, but for me, that makes it harder earned and compelling. I think BoJack basically makes the case for kindness. I hope we see some light at the end but either way it is a fantastic show. One of the few that has actually make me to think about my flaws and be more self reflective. Great TV!

[@theywalkinguptoyouand4060]

There are aspects of the characters that don't change. But all in all, they do change.

[@DanielSecoForsnacke]

to achieve redemption does not seem bojack,s fate but to become better as an end on its own

[@j.prt.979]

Change is possible and you should strive toward it. But in all likelihood, the things that you regret will catch up to you. That doesn’t mean you haven’t changed; it just means you have to take responsibility for your past actions. And both of those things (change and taking responsibility for wrongdoings) are good! That might be a tough pill to swallow, but it’s true and it’s what the show is saying.

[@modoesstuff]

bro...this horse don't wanna change fam...

[@guidoguido2245]

I had to literally stop watching Bojack Horseman after Season 3 because after every episode I felt empty and heavy after every episode. I needed a 30 Minute Cooldown just to get over what I had just watched.

[@ZincAddict]

I hope the show dares to defy expectations and that they don't give Bojack his redemption. That would be the most daring thing this show could do and make it the best animated show of all time in my book

[@GenesiisDavid]

Every time I watch bojack I see myself. All my proclamation of change and my inevitable descent back into old habits I swore off. Just like Diane I too rejected antidepressants for so long but recently I've started thinking hard about it. For this is more than just a show it provides a little solace from my demons and allows me to do a lot of introspection.