Did all y'all complainers in the comments notice how the two martial artists respected each other and had a good time sparring instead of whining about which weapon is objectively best?
@obersaber6 жыл бұрын
No safety equipment for your opponent does not show respect.
@forestcreature73256 жыл бұрын
Except that Kendo armour wouldnt really help that much since its designed for protecting areas where one has to strike to gain a point in an actual match, besides trusting ur opponent notto break ur fingers or ribs is a pretty huge way of showing respect.
@tiemekoenders28536 жыл бұрын
who wins has more to do with the skills of the individual and less with the weapon they're using
@-westman36195 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your positive comment.
@kirkcobain0935 жыл бұрын
@@tiemekoenders2853 well in this scenario yes but in a real life battle between a Knight and a samurai I think weapon choice does count for something
@zildiun23274 жыл бұрын
Me and my best friend in 3rd grade when we find two rulers:
@4shredder393 жыл бұрын
nah,we did it in 2nd grade
@toyue42013 жыл бұрын
And then the ruler broke...
@humanyter72143 жыл бұрын
We use to do this in everygrade
@zildiun23273 жыл бұрын
@@humanyter7214 The real highlight of everyone’s school experience was when you graduated from rulers to yard sticks.
@humanyter72143 жыл бұрын
@@zildiun2327 lol
@carbon0HUN8 жыл бұрын
the amount of fucking sword experts under these videos never cease to amaze me lol
@evgenybelilovskiy12053 жыл бұрын
To be fair, half the people here stumble on this video by accident, while the other half is part of the HEMA community so they know more than most.
@alexanderbohm6073 жыл бұрын
im here on youtube rec.....☕
@Aaryan.S3 жыл бұрын
@@evgenybelilovskiy1205 and kendo too. Like me.
@Michael-ll6px3 жыл бұрын
While we were enjoying this display of sportsmanship and a demo into a curiosity I’m sure many of us have had at one point, the rest were studying the blade.
@jestfullgremblim80023 жыл бұрын
@@Michael-ll6px hahaha nice one
@BrandydocMeriabuck4 жыл бұрын
1:48 when you remember you're using a *long* sword
@herrdave9204 жыл бұрын
*poke*
@cesare_13024 жыл бұрын
_r e a c h_
@anthuan20283 жыл бұрын
Dude straight up forgot how to poke
@gwynbleidd19173 жыл бұрын
Longsword dude actually won.
@clownman42113 жыл бұрын
S T R E M C H
@NoahWeisbrod9 жыл бұрын
Why does this video have so many dislikes? It's just a fencing bout between two martial artists. It's not making any idiotic claims about the weapons. I thought it was pretty fun to watch.
@DeadXManXsXStare9 жыл бұрын
+Noah Weisbrod It's because the guy with the longsword is trash
9 жыл бұрын
+Noah Weisbrod The thing is that the guy with LS does not fight by all known "Fechtbuch" art. He just swings it all around playing braveheart stuff. If we want to make such competition let's have two swordmasters from different cultures (or at least fighting according different cultures rules) duel. I do not see "ox" or "plought" stance here, no basic hits, nothing. That's why I geve it dislike.
@NoahWeisbrod9 жыл бұрын
+Urban Kępa Okay, he does stay somewhere between poste breve and longa most of the time.
@breaden43819 жыл бұрын
+Noah Weisbrod They have excellent control with their weapons.
@a.ham.98569 жыл бұрын
+Noah Weisbrod It's amusing but the guy with the bokken is missing so many openings that it's distracting. Against a better fencer, the guy with the longsword would have lost each and every time he starting waving it about like he's in a pirate movie. At the least, the bokken could have stopped into his wrists on virtually every 'attack' the longsword guy made.
@Ivytheherbert4 жыл бұрын
1:52 The rare double-knockout, otherwise known as "free stuff" to observers when this happened in a real duel.
@TaoistSwordsman3 жыл бұрын
One of thems murdered, the other one got his elbow cut up some. And maybe his thigh poked into depending on some variables
@Mateus-zs3it3 жыл бұрын
yeah, bokken guy was faster in beheading the dude
@BasedApricot3 жыл бұрын
@@TaoistSwordsman Long sword guy with carotid artery is certainly going to die Bokken guy with a cut at around L4 L5 level would likely open up the common iliac artery and descending aorta. Plus the momentum to the upper arm which could damage axillary artery and brachial artery would still be fatal but would last a bit longer than his enemy. In the field they would both die without a doubt. Zero chance of surviving unless they are duelling in the operating room.
@jestfullgremblim80023 жыл бұрын
@@BasedApricot exactly haha
@boxofmadness25112 жыл бұрын
i love this coment, and, as a HEMA practitioner, doubles arent that rare, mainly becouse if you are definitely getting hit, hitting back is a good way to avoid your adversary making points (doubles dont count basically you are taught to have absolute control of your enemies sword, you have to be able to hit while also making imposible to be hit, tho i guess thats a bit obvious)
@oscarmike72774 жыл бұрын
Both look like they know what they are doing. Holding back on the last half a second to prevent injury.
@johnjay97674 жыл бұрын
What I appreciate the most is how their opponent respects the strike. More often than not in sparring one person will pull their strike, showing that they could have hit them but did not. My pet peeve is when my sparring partner ignores this courtesy completely and whacks me as I reset for a new round. (Hand to hand)
@leich1m5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see two different styles testing each others skills. IMHO, considering the use of training weapons and lacking protection it was a fairly even duel. I train with bokken without protection too. The objective is not to actually hit your opponent but to have enough control to end the strike just short of the intented target. I think the comments referring to videogames are quite amusing. Every once in a while we get a gamer in the dojo. They usually don't last very long after they find out that a two hour training session is hard work.. 😂
@ashleyoasis79483 жыл бұрын
That’s why I love sword better than guns although guns come in different sizes range accuracy and bullets unlike swords there is just not that cultural clash of them clashing together to make a new launguage to see which one is truly better
@josejoaquinbenitez64853 жыл бұрын
Wasn't he supposed to have a tsuka in his bokken to protect his hands?
@heartsofgoldd73883 жыл бұрын
Michiel M. I’m quite a rare person, I’m a gamer and a weeb and yet I’m still a brown belt, I never gave up, (most of my friends who were gamers gave up) and now I’m soon going to be learning to use a bokken. Moral of the story: even if your a gamer, you can still be a martial artist.
@heartsofgoldd73883 жыл бұрын
@@josejoaquinbenitez6485 yea he should have because if you use a real sword, then not using one will lead to failure, because real Japanese sword are the sharpest swords ever
@viktordl35083 жыл бұрын
@@heartsofgoldd7388 Not really, the technique used is what makes it the sharpest in practice, fumikomi, using the body instead of the arms and all, but in design there are a lot better weapons to actually cut, the longsword would be an example, not for design, but instead quality in makeshift, if I'm talking about the design then the cimitar. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Jendo apprentice and I think the katana is a wonderful cutting weapon and I love it, but it ain't the best, I might put this as an opinion, because this is actually subjective Also, a friendly bow to a fellow martial artist gamer weeb whatever non quitter
@elmohead8 жыл бұрын
Katana users will lose 100% of the time in a real fight because they cannot unscrew their pommel and end their opponents rightly.
@elmohead8 жыл бұрын
Yama Yami look up "end him rightly" meme.
@haochaotsiminh61937 жыл бұрын
How will you make some time if you're already at a disadvantage using a naturally inferior weapon? There's nothing more simple to understand than that.
@jorhay17 жыл бұрын
lol correct!
@haochaotsiminh61937 жыл бұрын
I admit it is a formidable weapon, but it is nothing when faced with a true warrior with the spirit of the great dragon by his side and a katana to cut down his enemy!
@yimello62677 жыл бұрын
elmohead why is this a meme lmao
@RowanJColeman10 жыл бұрын
Despite the fanboys in the comments this spar seems pretty equal. These types of videos should really be labelled, "Man with Bokken vs. Man with Longsword". If you swapped out either one with a different fighter the result could be vastly different. Maybe a different guy with a Bokken would be faster and land twice as more hits or maybe a different Longsword guy would wipe out this Bokken guy. It's about the fighter not the style. There are simply too many factors to conclusively say "This style will always win over another style"
@MrManpreetsinghK10 жыл бұрын
I couldn't have agreed more. Each and every sword, be it Japanese, Chinese, Roman, Greek, Indo-persian, Caucasian, European, turkic, of the Renaissance, etc. has it's negatives and positives, what matters quite a lot is the mind of the swordsman. Techniques, styles, sword types, and a select few other factors that some of these armchair warriors talk about, do not play a big role as compared to the mind of a human. Everything one may learn has to be applied to certain situations and advantages.
@DannyOMoore10 жыл бұрын
it'd be a safe bet to say; it's the swordsman that wins not the sword.
@willnonya943810 жыл бұрын
I completely agree. Also at about 1:22 or so the Long sword man pulls what would of been a blow to the head on his opponent, about 4-6 seconds latter the boken guy does the same thing. I just love this video because it shows both of these guys being sportsmen and enjoying the competition.
@DOT1079 жыл бұрын
though that's why there is different style's to counter the other one :/
@AlwaysReason9 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say style, but swords do matter. The thrust at 1:48, although ultimately defendable, shows just how much of an advantage in range the longsword has. Add to that no handguard on the bokken and I would be sliding down that blade for his hands and forarms, while staying out of reach all day. They had 3 or 4 double-kills, which is what the guy with the shorter blade almost has to expose himself to, in order to get close enough to hit. Of course, it is not the sword that wins the fight, but these factors just make longsword more forgiving in a one-on-one like this one.
@alphanox-78734 жыл бұрын
I love how they fence and no matter how it goes, they honor and respect each other. I don’t know if I’m right or it’s just me, but the kendo practitioner seems more experienced, with how he doesn’t fall for the fake attacks and taunts the other attempts. However, the guy with the longsword adapted quickly, which made it pretty equal, even if either had more experience by their techniques. A lot of people will look at this video as a friendly and honorable sparring session, but others will try to make the katana or longsword seem superior and degrade the skill of the opposite side of the argument. If there’s something I learned all this time being a sword fan and have practiced at least once kendo and a bit of longsword, is that no sword is better than the other, but the techniques and the wielded are who truly make even the most useless piece of junk work the best.
@lukitohaland6 жыл бұрын
0:39 real use of japanese sword technique, but there's no finishing move afterwards
@andreirafaelalias74385 жыл бұрын
Nice parry tho
@jangtheconqueror3 жыл бұрын
The longsword guy was really visibly off balance too lol watch his feet
@chriswedemann85998 жыл бұрын
I like this fight. considerable skill on both sides, and both fight with respect towards their opponent.
@FaithfulSwordsman18 жыл бұрын
Yes, all to often one of the fighters is much more experienced, or skilled. And respect is also important.
@haochaotsiminh61938 жыл бұрын
Respect is important jk
@chriswedemann85998 жыл бұрын
Hao Chao Tsi Minh Those who live without respect die without honor.
@haochaotsiminh61938 жыл бұрын
Aye, a man without respect is a man without honor Hail respectmanship!
@brandonactr8 жыл бұрын
They are obviously good friends, look at the bromance nudge at the end.
@feelz_4_dayz8859 жыл бұрын
no helmets. no helmets. NO FUCKING HELMETS
@bmxguy4189 жыл бұрын
Matei Tudor no need. no need. NO FUCKING NEED
@naomiwashinton81029 жыл бұрын
+Trin Panapan Helmets are for people who want to do it more than once.
@bmxguy4189 жыл бұрын
***** Yeah, you'd rather have them fighting with real katana? This belongs on youtube, not hiddenlol
@SickHarbinger9 жыл бұрын
+Dwight Schrute Yeah, right... Bokken practice is part of a Martial Art. Learning the form is one of the essential parts of Kendo and Kendo is one of the most respected Sports in Japan and Korea. Handling a Bokken basically equals handling a Katana, which is why higher ranked kendoka often use Katanas for public demonstrations.
@davidmcaliley34959 жыл бұрын
+Matei Tudor I've been hit in the head with a red oak bokken. It hurt, left a scar, and I learned a valuable lesson. Most of the time, if people are serious about the art, and they have a partner who is also serious, they can tell when a blow is about to go wrong, and they pull back. Kinda like at the end of this video, the guy with the bokken could have delivered a bad blow to the head when the buzzer sounded. But he pulled back. The guy I was sparring with didn't have quite his reflexes. Neither did I. Hence the scar and the lesson. If you don't want to get hurt, play chess. If you don't trust your partner not to hit you badly, don't spar with them. Problem solved.
@JohnHellscream11 жыл бұрын
Each style has its own advantages. Its all about the fighter. I personally favor the longsword for its versatility, also for the culture it represents (im european). One of the best sword styles ever, created as a martial science by the german, italian, spanish masters etc. Yet, as a general idea, its an advantage for a longsword disciple to learn/practice degree of kendo, kenjutsu, and/or chinese/korean styles etc, just to have a wider point of view, helps building up versatility. I practiced kendo up to a professional level, and some iaido. LS suits me better, but i dont disregard other styles, no matter their point of origin. Also i think, at least in Europe, longsword discipline should expand more, its a cultural thing. We embrace the japanese martial arts, chinese, korean, thai etc, but what about our own?
@davefletch3063 Жыл бұрын
Combining the two would be great. Kenjutsu is more refined and taken to a higher level then the western sword methods, most due to westerners not maintaining the practice. The resurrection of the skills will take a long time to make up the difference
@gazzore73396 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha oh the comments section! Everyone is an expert hahahahaha
@farisomar99745 жыл бұрын
Agree. Keyboard warrior everywhere.
@Paracelsus005 жыл бұрын
You dont have to be expert to say that medieval knight would easy win against Samurai just because katana cannot pierce his armor yikes
@farisomar99745 жыл бұрын
@@Paracelsus00 lol. Which idiot try to pierce through a plate armor with a sword? Western sword style and easter sword style are very different. U dont use katana with western style.
@Agilku1175 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the comment section.
@antiplusch93814 жыл бұрын
@@Paracelsus00 we got another expert here...
@Simbad9618 жыл бұрын
If they had protective gear and could go all out would be better :/ Cuz of safety both hesitated quite a lot
@0hn0haha8 жыл бұрын
+Seraphim HaanS Though, in a life or death fight, you might be hesitant as well.
@Simbad9618 жыл бұрын
+0hn0haha maybe in a duel but with plate armor there is no really need to hesitate. Besides when an actual battle occurred there was no time for slow ass comat. I always imagine it like a game of american football but woth swords xD anyway, not like a samurai and knight would meet but aby bit of protective gear would let them actually to try out cuts. Look up on youtube videos of hema masters fencing or 2 guys with zveinhander techniques :) they all show quite direct hits
@0hn0haha8 жыл бұрын
Seraphim HaanS Ah, I see, you want it to replicate war. I was thinking more of a duel context. I'm a Hema person btw.
@stoffni8 жыл бұрын
+Seraphim HaanS That is basically how European war was fought. Like American football. You tried to get the best positions (Knowing the battlefield, strategy), then both forces just ran right into each other, the first to falter(Hole in the line) was literally fucked because as soon as you turned around and ran the knights came riding you down. Then you regrouped and do battle again.
@jakubgrzybek61816 жыл бұрын
Riveted chainmail vs samurai iron&leather armour.
@redpandemic10814 жыл бұрын
One thing that I see regularly in "Katana vs Longsword" videos is that katana wielders (no matter if Aikido, Kendo or Iaido) seem to act more reserved. While the longsword wielder more often jumps around, tries to faint and break his opponents guard physically. I'm no expert whatsoever, yet I would say that I know my way with a katana. During my training the Sensei advised us to stay focused and calm. Like the surface of a lake during a windless night. But also to be ready to break loose like a wave that forces its way through the opponent. My point is, Kendo is pretty intense for your mind. I'd even say that many matches are decided by mental work in Kendo. Of course you need to be fit in shape and form, but it seems to me like HEMA focusses more on actual physical work than mental (may call it mindgames at this point as well.) I'd love to have some of you actual HEMA practicioners thought on this.
@dude4real94554 жыл бұрын
The mindset of the aikido person here is pretty ideal. Generally any movement creates attacking opportunities if caught before its completion. As you get a better understanding why and when to move or react, the less reason you have to move and flinch and feignt, most of the time. This is something that becomes really pronounced between two people fencing, where one is much more experienced/competent. And moving less, you have more time to react to any oportunities your opponent presents. Think about it this way. When you are not moving you are observing, the more confident you are in knowing when you Have to move and react, the more time you have to observe and wait for a good time to land a hit or create a good opportunity to seize the initiative. The person more reserved towards executing more commited actions, observing and judging from the right distance can see better where and when to strike, though it takes a pretty good fencer to stay in good distance, baiting the opponents strikes, without easily get hit in the process. In this ideal case the unfortunate one trying to move, feignt attack and observe at the same time, has more to work with and as a rule has a worse approach to the fight. Ideally everything you do, either restricts your opponent from immediately hitting you, or severely threatens them, forcing them to go on the defensive. Everything else is fluff, though being only human, working against hesitation and failiure in critical decission making. How we preform is rarely ever up to par with the ideal, though with a capability to demonstrate absolutely impressive skill at times. Ps: most of the time, I'm the hoppity fencer =3
@Trapsarentgay1334 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if they teach half swording with a katana but it’s a very effective technique with a long sword that requires patience to set up but is super effective
@redpandemic10814 жыл бұрын
@@dude4real9455 I do totally agree with you on this one. Though I should add that I'm used to be a quite reserved Kendoka, taking a good time to observe and measure, yet I fail at acting quick enough. So even a calm mind can cost you a point or even the match when your body just can't react the way you want and need it to. That being said, I'm aware that this is nothing I can't work on. Still I need to bring mind and body to one level...
@redpandemic10814 жыл бұрын
@@eglib499 I had a bit of sparring by now with a Longsword fencer. And well it was pretty much like in this video most of the time. Not to blow my own horn here, but in our particular setup, I was simply more experienced. I think you have a valid point with the tricks up the sleeve. It came across my mind that Kendo is a pretty straight forward fencing style. After I watched some longsowrd instructions, there is just more to it. By all means. But the fencer needs to be able to put that to use. If the opponent is rather unsure on how to handle you, you really have the upper hand.
@redpandemic10814 жыл бұрын
@@Trapsarentgay133 I would love to see that.
@Zero947166 жыл бұрын
For honor.
@Jorji_FCS6 жыл бұрын
Knight did it wrong, I saw no vortex spam
@hainghiaminhhainghiminh17196 жыл бұрын
LOL
@captainskyward23406 жыл бұрын
dAUbeNy
@Kojin4006 жыл бұрын
orochi wins warden was to slow😝
@낮선사람6 жыл бұрын
Looool!hahaha
@andrewk.55752 жыл бұрын
As someone from a Western fencing background, the kenjutsu guy in this video was the better swordsman. He did receive a few touches, but his form was rock solid the whole time and he didn't seem to concerned by anything the longsword guy threw at him. The sequence from 0:38 to 0:45 was particularly beautiful to watch.
@patrickfry1000 Жыл бұрын
Yes! As a practitioner I agree! He is very very good! Much better than the longswords man. It was not an even fight on skill level.
@falconiday6130 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I would honestly love to see this kind of match between two people on a more even skill level. It was clear that the longsword fighter was super nervous and unsure of his tactics, while the katana fighter was absolutely focused and one with his weapon. Mad respect to both fighters for their performance, but it’s clear which one had more experience
@elonmusk53026 жыл бұрын
1:48 Warden OP Orochi tries deflecting ... still dies
@michaelterrell50614 жыл бұрын
My exact life story
@sonyentertainmentnetwork44887 ай бұрын
For Honor
@BLIXBE.Offical5 жыл бұрын
Me and my friends after the first time of playing For Honor
@stemaster6 жыл бұрын
I find these types of fights fantastic. The two swird styles clash in a fight of experience instead of "which is better" the wielder of the weapon is what's important regardless of the style they use. In this vid you can see the contrast of both fighters and the styles they use. One speratic and constantly moving to keep variation, while the other is cool and collected trying to anticipate the next attack. The anticipated defense is a very high risk high reward style.
@SirConto4 жыл бұрын
You know they're crazy skilled when neither of them needs to be taken to the hospital after this.
@NERV0USMONKEYS8 жыл бұрын
1:48... EASY!
@ウマナミの皇5 жыл бұрын
hahaha
@thethaifighter.29815 жыл бұрын
Hahahahaha
@MrFiddleedee5 жыл бұрын
then 3 seconds later 1:51
@danielb2705 жыл бұрын
@@MrFiddleedee 1:51 is a draw
@sorodragonfall88325 жыл бұрын
@Jon Jones this depends on the rules, all of the "hits" your referencing had as much force as a love tap, and wouldn't have hurt even an unarmored foe. If they were playing first to poke the other dude lightly and do nothing, sure he won. But I believe they are playing, first to land an actual strike that they have to slow down to not hurt their friend.
@rimandries10 жыл бұрын
I applaud both gentlemen for this effort to try and exchange knowledge and experience. This is how we should treat eachother. With mutual respect and desire to learn. Well done. Ps samurai get your heads out of your ass: the katana is a sword. Not a magical item. Period.. And HEMA get of your high horse: the katana is a sword. Not an inferior slab of steel. Period. .See what i did there? Good luck to you all. Train hard and prosper.
@notsoprogaming97899 жыл бұрын
Rim Andries you made me lol there
@notsoprogaming97899 жыл бұрын
Rim Andries i wish you said katana cultist cause you would given me the chance to say im a hema cultist (see what i did there)
@rimandries9 жыл бұрын
i see it and i like it
@scintillam_dei3 жыл бұрын
See my video "A conquistador refutes the Metatorn on Samurais VS Spaniards."
@BlackCatRedScarf6 жыл бұрын
It's pretty fun to watch both sides analyzing how to apply their skills and weapons against something completely different from what they are used to face, because both sides probably train most of time with people that uses the same style. One mistake and the bokken can slash several times or one mistake and the langschwert can land a pretty heavy blow.
@williambankert76044 жыл бұрын
It's not about the weapon but the person wielding it
@natep28093 жыл бұрын
A very good statement.
@SwordWieldingDuck3 жыл бұрын
@@natep2809 so let's fight, you take knife and i take halberd, who do you think will win most of the time?
@zulwawi3 жыл бұрын
@@SwordWieldingDuck skilled knife user wins on close combat
@sorrenzz36103 жыл бұрын
@@zulwawi Sorry man but that aint true
@zulwawi3 жыл бұрын
@@sorrenzz3610 yes it is true have u seen russian combat knife and asian kerambit play like on john wick 3
@inelllumba17278 жыл бұрын
u coulda unscrewed the pommel and thrown it at him XDDD
@rubengerritsen68688 жыл бұрын
would've ended him rightly...
@inelllumba17278 жыл бұрын
+Ruben Gerritsen indeed. Skall has taught us well friend
@4rreste4098 жыл бұрын
yeah but they were just sparring so I don't think there's a need to kill your opponent and cause collateral damage
@inelllumba17278 жыл бұрын
+Snoop Azlan collateral damage is always needed when someone challenges the mighty pommel
@gaboderflinger78548 жыл бұрын
InstaWin! xD
@UR777B8 жыл бұрын
0:40 - Counter Standing 2:04 - Counter Kill
@spacez38144 жыл бұрын
U R A G A N beautiful.
@daric_9 жыл бұрын
Practicing with no PPE whatsoever is a bad idea. Although wooden, those swords can still gouge eyes, cause concussions, etc.
@Maciliachris9 жыл бұрын
Daric Soldar True, but practicing with protections only will not give you an idea of what it is to fear the blows. I'd say that both training should be done, of course only with trained practicioner.
@HueyShabazz9 жыл бұрын
Daric Soldar They could have put on eye protection or head gear. But they both looked like they knew how to control their strikes and not go full force or strike anywhere dangerous. Beginners wouldnt have the same control and would get seriously hurt
@dableutyef9 жыл бұрын
Daric Soldar live by the sword poked by the sword
@colinhill79219 жыл бұрын
+Railriderchris I never quite agreed with this mindset. The people I train with are my friends, so when they aren't wearing appropriate protection, I run the risk of injuring them, and therefore don't attack with full intent. And as you'd expect, my friends/sparring partners feel the same way, so neither of us are attacking at maximum force.
@Maciliachris9 жыл бұрын
***** I can understand this. But whether you find this a good idea or not is probably depending on the goal you want to achieve when training with the sword. 1) if you want to do sport, scoring points, being in little danger of being injured, this allowing to strike with full force rather than controlling the weapon, then training without protections will indeed be of little interest to you. 2) But if you want to recreate something more real, like the real swordfight where people are aware that any movement might be the last which makes them being much more cautious, creating a tense situation where striking with full force is less important than doing controlled disabling of the opponent, then you might have a great deal of insight when doing restrained sparring without protections. Understand that I'm not criticising those who only want to score, or do full contact like in battle of the nations. It is surely a lot of fun, and there's nothing wrong with it. But when I see HEMA tournaments with a lot of suicidal attacks and double hits, it seems to me that there is a problem with being too protected. If you have good control over your blade, and if you know your sparring partner well, I encourage you to try it out. If you're not sure about your safety (which nevertheless remains first priority), then begin with fencing masks and maybe gloves as only protections, nylon or wooden swords, slow movements and more intention of doing techniques than sparring. Then, with time going on, you might remove your gloves and replace the fencing mask with safety glasses. However, I'm not a huge fan of steel swords in this context, because of the potentially abrasive steel edges after edge blows, and the fact that there is a tendency of doing a lot more cutting like Hendtrucken.
@danielgoodwin24612 жыл бұрын
At the time of viewing this 14 years has passed since the creation of the content. The revival of historical European martial arts was in it infancy. Since then more people have made interpretation of the texts and put it to practice. The skill of swordsmanship pertaing to welding the long sword has grown exponentially.
@StudSupreme10 жыл бұрын
This seems an unwise sparring session. They should have more protection. Wooden weapons are still potentially hazardous.
@controllingthemedia10 жыл бұрын
***** What the fuck even are you? Get off the internet.
@DakotaMilesO10 жыл бұрын
Do you think the European knights and the Japanese samurai wore fucking protection?
@VictoriaStobbie10 жыл бұрын
Зиновий Варенников Training not really, Fighting Yes...because its someones life behind that sword...
@kylebollard9710 жыл бұрын
Зиновий Варенников Actually yes.. yes they did
@DaleAllanBertram10 жыл бұрын
Зиновий Варенников Yes, all the time.
@paxas038 жыл бұрын
And then one guy take his gun and shot the opponent.
@TheAmGoth8 жыл бұрын
Goodwill does not sell guns.
@paxas038 жыл бұрын
Ahah I was kidding guys.
@neutralfellow97368 жыл бұрын
Look up 21 foot rule, in close range, you will be cut to pieces even if you manage to draw the gun in time.
@bdf26608 жыл бұрын
you must be fun at parties
@Shrike128 жыл бұрын
I think it was a reference to Indiana Jones
@Joellondt8 жыл бұрын
It's funny how the guy with the bokken pretends to not care about getting hit and shit like he knows wether it's gonna hit him or not and then.. he gets hit
@benis99658 жыл бұрын
+Joel Parkour i laugh so hard
@henryposadas8 жыл бұрын
No it's just part of training. Like learning not to flinch when someone jabs. Plus if you gauge your range right (called maai in Japanese martial arts) you learn to relax when not in distance. You see this in MMA with karate fighters like machida and Thomson. Just part of their training.
@kuanchienkuanchien1976 жыл бұрын
It's no jab it's a fucking sword he died a thousand deaths
@andusz55186 жыл бұрын
@DarkEternal6 half swording only works against armor, and a sword or weapon as big or bigger than a standard longsword, since you can't do grabs like that against a katana. it would be like trying to bear hug someone who has a knife. yes you could, but you'd get stabby stabbed about a thousand times in the mean time
@dynamicworlds16 жыл бұрын
Randy Oh correct, what he should have done is stay at distance and use his greater reach and hand protection to keep the fight as much about trying to hit his opponent's hands as possible....of course, lack of protective gear makes that kind of sparring problematic
@briansalk32336 жыл бұрын
You score one point for arm or leg, two points for chest, three points for head, and 100 points for rapping the guy in the knuckles, plus an extra 5 points if he yelps.
@chrisp418810 жыл бұрын
Two wooden sticks wielded by guys from different disciplines get together to fight. Who wins? ... The guy who trained harder.
@jaygon63468 жыл бұрын
0:30 dark souls 3 duels.
@roybatty-9 жыл бұрын
Guy with the katana got cut in like 10 different places.
@aldipeanutz8 жыл бұрын
*bokken
@kaizoebara8 жыл бұрын
+aldipeanutz *bokutô (never heard any Japanese person use the term bokken)
@tofuwu86808 жыл бұрын
+kaizoebara well sometimes its called a bokken and sometimes its called a bokuto. They both means the same thing
@kaizoebara8 жыл бұрын
You don't get it? I just pointed out that this guy failed at making a smart-ass remark, when he himself didn't have a much of a clue. I know that they both mean the same thing, but the term "bokken" is hardly ever used by Japanese native speakers.
@tofuwu86808 жыл бұрын
kaizoebara im just stating a fact, I dont want to get in any trouble.
@sugarhighmegaming50086 жыл бұрын
“Just another day with the bros...”
@zaxarion11 жыл бұрын
Timbo X, if you think there is such thing as a superior art, you are mistaken. There are people with more skill, people with more dedication, smarter people, but before the fight, equally trained warriors, such as a Samurai or a Medieval Knight, either of them could win... the one who trained longer, the faster one, the stronger one, the smarter one, the luckier one... it is all up to the single person incarnating the warrior on that precise moment... But specially understand, that nothing that you or me can say will change anything. Just train on whatever you practice and find happines, stop trying to win. God bless you and all Martial Arts Practitioners.
@rattslayer11 жыл бұрын
in actual combat to the death, the medieval knight would probably have it due simply to the superiority of the fitted plate, vs the samurais lamellar armor. if both were unarmored, it would probably be a coin flip.
@endlessace11 жыл бұрын
Those armors are heavy as @#$%. Endurance is gonna be an issue.
@rattslayer11 жыл бұрын
Minh Phan proper, well fit plate is both lighter and restrictes moment less than a modern soldiers gear. Well fit plate weighs around 40Lb. Compare that to the Ō-yoroi (pinnacle of samuri armor) that weight 65+ Lb
@Omnicronimous11 жыл бұрын
rattslayer Not to mention that by the 14th Century at the height of European plate armor the Spanish, Germans, and Italians were making plate armor that could withstand the strongest crossbows of the day, and were reasonably bullet proof into the 16th century. Thus necessitating the shift in sword making among the nobility to ever stronger and narrower straight blades (for stabbing between armor plates).
@nonfictiondictionary10 жыл бұрын
Cool video, but the hypothetical "Euro-Knight vs Samurai" flamewar comments kinda makes it... unfun to stick around... Don't give a shit about which sword is better, Warhammers FTW.
@FutureUSMC1210 жыл бұрын
Battle axe and shield for me! Though I would be willing to use a warhammer instead. ^^^And yes indeed, a lot of people just want to prove their own superiority that THEIR weapon/martial art is the best unmatched by anything.
@IvanCaprioli10 жыл бұрын
it's not easy to compare this two beautiful techniques, the real difference was given by fighters. Anyway, in european battlefield was not usual to see sword armed fighters. The longsword was considered a noble weapon and it's mainly used in dueling or skirmish. In normal battles was more common to see maces, morning stars, pikes, two-handed hammers, axes, poleaxes and shields.
@dylanr.cerezo43259 жыл бұрын
Im just sitting here stroking my guns and knives and improvised weapons.
@Puglord999 жыл бұрын
-Ðёмøи Ḻøяḓ Ðylaи - edgy
@calcena159 жыл бұрын
Ivan Caprioli To much heavy weapons to fight the agility of a samurai i think
@freyylmao9 жыл бұрын
Two different weapons for two different kinds of warfare. An interesting crossover, but to say one style of swordsmanship is superior over an another is simply crass.
@Z95HeadHunter6 жыл бұрын
This was a more interesting fight to watch than most of what is excreted onto the screen by Hollywood.
@arthurw139 жыл бұрын
They should wear some protective gear and go full out
@Maciliachris9 жыл бұрын
arthurw13 Protective gear makes people being careless and suicidal, hardly authentic. Sometimes, a more restrained sparring without protections can teach you a lot of things.
@Maciliachris9 жыл бұрын
Sylorinnis I respect your opinion, but I'd like to disagree. However, I think we might both be correct, as it depends of what do you want to achieve. In a purely sportive context like modern sport fencing, Kendo or (more and more) HEMA tournaments, yes, you're quite correct. However, when trying to represent a real fight, there are several big problems with the modern protective equipment: 1) mobility: it is impressive how little you can move with the full sparring gear, my medieval armour offers a lot more freedom of movement! Honestly, have you ever managed to place a succesful Zwerchhau when with fencing mask, heavy sparring gloves and HEMA gambeson? Or even only to go into the guard Ochs or Posta di Donna? Is it easy for you to use the thumb grip? 2) As I already said, protections make people fight only to score a point instead of also protecting their lives. This is a main reason why many historical techniques don't work in tournaments because they weren't meant to be used against suicidal persons. Many HEMA fighters who act like crazy Battle of the Nations participants would be completely shocked and passive it they had to fight against a person with a sharp sword. 3) You can do light unprotected sparring without the people ''co-operating''. It depends of course on the amount of skill and training involved, but Daniel Jaquet of GAGschola has made an impressive demonstration with sparring partners only equiped with protective gloves. It looked much better than the silly bashing often involved in tournaments with protections, especially as the mobility without gear allows much more techniques. Conclusion: in a sportive context, to learn how to strike with full force, protective gear is absolutely necessary. And I would say that anyone has to do at least some amount of protected full force sparring. However, to understand our ancestors who did train without protections too, I strongly believe that it is of great use to also do light sparring without protective gear.
@Maciliachris9 жыл бұрын
Sylorinnis I'm happy that we found an honorable agreement, dear Sir. :-) All the best to you and your training!
@itwuzavalibles2568 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who thought of darksouls 3 @ 0:31
@_ODDEEO_8 жыл бұрын
>Stance!!
@ShadowMudkip1238 жыл бұрын
This was literally me starting with knight class and fighting the sword master on my first play through
@andikadewasatrio47438 жыл бұрын
lol you're not alone. me too xD
@mudwolff8 жыл бұрын
awwww shieettt soo tru hahaha
@roganchapman57008 жыл бұрын
And then again at 0:43 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1
@majorsytreetlynxtheheroofa88229 жыл бұрын
For Honor leaked gameplay footage.
@IanDresarie7 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best showcases I've seen so far. Just look at their vastly different footwork! Great video!
@hefeibao2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same.
@russelldavis841510 жыл бұрын
primary targets in a duel are arms/hands, legs/feeet, trying to hit the head or trunk without first injuring/weakening/disarming your opponent, will get you KILLED.
@gurkfisk8910 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with you about the legs and absolutley about feets. Feets are really difficult to hit because they are so low and your shoulder are so high. With a longword you have to get about half a meter closer to be able to hit a foot than if you where aming for the torso.
@TheBoxingCannabyte10 жыл бұрын
nuh-uh
@russelldavis841510 жыл бұрын
the legs are really easy to hit the feet is an interesting topic, this came about when we were looking at possibilities when dueling with sword and dagger, while it may be possible, I think it highly unlikely anyone would go down that road. nuh uh dont really contribute to the conversation.
@TheGabesnell10 жыл бұрын
gurkfisk89 upper legs and armpits were the main targets for longswords and broadswords... look it up...
@gurkfisk8910 жыл бұрын
TheGabesnell Upper legs are a target, but I wouldn't call it a main one. And the upper legs are more of a target than the lower legs, but I still wouldn't call it the main target. Codex Döbringer (MS 3227a) does for example state that you should attack "to the head or to the body" many times so I think that at least the head would be considered a main target. And nearly every strike I've seen is aimed towards the head or torso. For the armpits. That is absolutley true if we are talking about armored fighting (if we are, then I'm sorry for the misunderstanding). But in unarmored fighting I'm not that sure. What kind of attack would you use with a longsword to attack the armpit in an unarmored fight? I can see that you may hit the armpit when striking, say, a zwerchau from a high bind. But even then I would say that the strike is aimed towards the upper body in general rather than the armpit specifically. What sources are you refering to when you say that the upper legs and armpits are the main targets?
@LTakes.44 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest when we have a sword in our hand where gonna swing it like Kirito.
@Arcana4373 жыл бұрын
Yeah I did that once in a spar I got the hit but I have been attacked three or two times already lol
@thepriestpucci49883 жыл бұрын
I tried serious tecniques once against my brother, he responded with wild swinging and stabbing to which i didnt really know how to respond.
@Esbro6 жыл бұрын
0:40 damn good reaction
@spacez38144 жыл бұрын
Esbro parry
@tiexiaowang79398 ай бұрын
Longsword guy's footwork is all over the place. Seems like the bokken wielder had quite the experience advantage
@legorasgoleshi489010 жыл бұрын
"The long sword is better" "No the katana is better". You know what's better in a fight? A more capable warrior. So to wrap it up for you kids. Both swords have their advantages and disadvantages. Surprise. None of both is perfect. Blown your mind, didn't I? So stop polishing your swords to your favorite swords (if you're catching my drift) and appreciate the battle itself. Swords don't win wars, warriors do.
@Snythes10 жыл бұрын
Why are they saying "Longsword vs Bokken" that's like a boxing match saying "---- gloves vs ---- gloves" it comes down to skill of the fighter in sword duels not the type swords they use.
@mariosmatzoros35536 жыл бұрын
Snythes no not at all.
@mariosmatzoros35536 жыл бұрын
Snythes there are some swords that are simply better than others.For instance,in a 1vs1 duel a rapiers is considered to be the best weapon.
@jouburt95455 жыл бұрын
marios matzoros this isn’t a video game, the difference between the weapons is not which is better, it’s their style. Put two skilled swordsman in a duel, one with a rapier, the other a long sword, they both have the same chance of winning. The same goes for a long sword vs zweihander, it’s the skill and style that separates the weapons
@imperialtrooper9274 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome spar, great skill on both sides and I like the shoulder bump the two made after they finished, the respect these two have makes this spar very wholesome
@eutytoalba5 жыл бұрын
It's called martial ARTS because, while there may be objective factors to consider, there is always a great measure of unique circumstances and practitioners' creativity in chosing how to adapt. Definitive declarations of who would win every time, or even a calcuable major percentage of the time, are not actually possible. Looking for THAT rigid of an assessment makes it sound like you've never personally held a weapon in your life----only watched them on screens while trying to coose a favorite team to side with. In any actual battle, you of course would have to make the best of WHATEVER is at your disposal.
@dragutinvukelic88917 жыл бұрын
Nice sparring...with no safety gear. They both have good technique and are very cautious. It shows they have mutual respect for each other. You learn a lot from a sparring like this. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Respect!
@rogerforsberg3910 Жыл бұрын
As someone who's spent most of his teenage & adult life practicing various martial arts to see these two guys fencing without the protection of masks &/or gloves was quite astonishing. Very impressive, gents!
@boloisdaman6 жыл бұрын
Huge difference in footwork there. Aikido guy is super smooth.
@williamkiley23286 жыл бұрын
Those guys are pretty evenly matched. I love seeing different art forms pinned against eachother.
@AureusPercussor10 жыл бұрын
Why must every argument over Katana vs Longsword must end in one dedicated style. Whomever was more experienced with that blade would be the victor. Both combatants in this video show that both are pretty equally skilled. Also, both combatants seemed to have landed similar hits. While Knights were more armored, it's not like other Japanese warriors were any less armored. The average foot soldier was lightly armored. Both swords are excellence but also can be over hyped. Both have jobs they are good at and their own fighting styles.
@syphonfilter837210 жыл бұрын
Because there is a lot of pride and belief in this dick-waving contest. There has to be a winner. In this day and age, people will settle for nothing less.
@realenew9 жыл бұрын
but I actually heard that good-quality iron was rare in Japan, but common in Europe, that means more armour for the European and their half-swording style.
@AureusPercussor9 жыл бұрын
realenew While that comment is not wrong, iron was scarce in Japan, the sword makers figured out a way to forge two types of steel into one blade, allowing for the sharpness of each sword. Both swords are fantastic in my opinion, and have their advantages and disadvantages
@GRABA8511 жыл бұрын
Kendo mask? Sabre fancing mask? Anyone? Protective vest? It is pointless if you dont want to hit somebody.
@Inthedarkzone0110 жыл бұрын
The problem is not how quick you are its that those are 2 different sword style the longsword has the advantage to keep you at distance and big moves with long range attacks, the katana is made for close contact and quick strikes the two are great sword that made there reputation through history and that you can not argue with i own 3 katanas and have much respect for longswords will be my next purchase
@jmanuelu.843310 жыл бұрын
I agree. Concuerdo. Si el caballero medieval europeo lograse imponer su ventaja, destrozaría a su oponente, pero el bokken es más ágil y tiene más posiciones, por lo que puede encontrarle las costuras al poderoso traje de la espada larga.
@TesticularHomicide10 жыл бұрын
Katana made for close range? Are you batty, sir? This guy in the vid is okay, but he's not a good example. Kenjutsu (done properly) is all about shifting your weight to your leading knee, and bounding off your back foot... that is to say, a jumping attack that expands your range. I have used the technique I myself to beat someone wielding a flipping greatsword (3.5 foot blade). So no. Only people with shitty technique stay in their little circle and go for close range.
@Inthedarkzone0110 жыл бұрын
Alexander Hill No what i was pointing out is the katana is shorter compared to the longsword and this is practice not a full out fight... if you have masterd it ok good for you but not everyone is at that point and yes i'm not but its always interesting to have at least a visual observation of a longsword technique compared to a katana and having them fighting? Why not? So the discution "longsword or katana" continues...
@clearlypellucid10 жыл бұрын
Alexander Hill The katana is just a European saber without a hand-guard. It's about the same length and used in a similar style with lunges and cuts. It's most certainly a "shorter range" weapon than a longsword.
@TesticularHomicide10 жыл бұрын
Conundrum it is not a saber. It is balanced totally differently and behaves differently. Let's just agree to disagree, sir.
@bobhaynes81694 жыл бұрын
Watching the guy with the longsword is almost painful- though I can understand it's hard not to have a static stance. In the art of the longsword wards are meant to be windups and not static positions, your sword is meant to be in constant motion and not in a consistent position that can be read.
@JeetKuneDoBelgrade9 жыл бұрын
Lovely exchange. Respect shown. Good video.
@justsoicanfingcomment58148 жыл бұрын
Improper title This is a Man vs Man not weapon type vs weapon type.
@dereknoll14998 жыл бұрын
+Just so I can Fing coment How much of a stickler do ya have to be?
@justsoicanfingcomment58148 жыл бұрын
Just tired of the (This weapon vs that weapon = oh this weapon is better, because it was wielded by someone more skilled with it's counter part than the one it is being pitted against.)
@justsoicanfingcomment58148 жыл бұрын
...You are ABSOLUTELY right! XD
@apollohateshisdayjob96068 жыл бұрын
While it's true that it's man vs man instead of weapon vs weapon, that's also because it's impossible to have a strictly weapon compairison. I think this video did demonstrate some of the distinct advantages and disadvantages of the different swords and style though. There are different advantages in different contexts to each weapon, and both the katana and longsword were engineered to fight the enemies and equipment of their time and region. For example, the longsword has a slightly better reach and a more effective thrust, as well as being more nimble in the point. The katana has a heavier cutting edge, and can cut effectively down almost the entire length of the blade, while the long sword is only really effective at cutting from about 1/2 to 3/4 down the blade due to the tapered tip. There are features of each blade that make them more effective than the other in different area, as well as having training to maximize their features. Personally I don't consider either a better weapon than the other, only better in certain situations. I do think the long sword is a bit more versatile than the katana, and able to maintain effectiveness in more situations, but I think the katana is a bit more deadly when in the right context due to its better capacity for cutting. The one thing I absolutely think the long sword is better at though is hand protection. I do not think the katanas disc guard provides any real advantage over a cross guard.
@paytonthefrontieresmannewb78358 жыл бұрын
+apollo grach very very good outlook on the two very different swords from two very different regions and cultures with completely different fighting styles
@elhilo19725 жыл бұрын
1:02 *Dramatic anime pause* *huff, huff, huff...*
@silverswordguy41913 жыл бұрын
Even with all the new HEMA stuff that's come out over the past several years, this is still one of my favorite videos to come back to and watch.
@BengNinja8 жыл бұрын
If you ever tried something like this you know how hard it actually is to fight sword vs sword. One fuck up and you are dead. But i think they both look like they arent just show offs, you can see they have skills. Good Job!
@emeraldjoker73578 жыл бұрын
I know that people train with blunt swords well not sure about blunt katanas but they could do it with real swords if they are skilled enough
@TheIceandphoenix8 жыл бұрын
They used wooden swords at tournaments and people still got killed. Ninjas used wooden swords because steel wasnt afordable for them, they still killed silently. u dont need real swords to practice. besides getting yourself MORE hurt and staying out of practice isnt smart. also if you have experience you know how to keep your distance and wait for the perfect timing and dont charge in like crazy, because both guys end up dead. sword fighting is a lot like anderson silvas counter striking style, thats whats gonna keep you alive in a real combat situation.
@Algahiem6 жыл бұрын
Welcome back to the stage of history!
@pugilist10210 жыл бұрын
That last parry/blow was awesome.
@thuddpucker114 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be a more even a match if it was a contest between the long sword and a Nodachi sword ?
@libertyprime298510 жыл бұрын
The long sword guy simply does not abuse of his range and the katana guy is not offensive at all.
@daug36077 жыл бұрын
reactive playstyle is far better than offensive
@martk6474 жыл бұрын
0:31..when he press L2.
@notapro63753 жыл бұрын
Lol I can fucking see it happening
@the_metamancer3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!
@Chrominance8710 жыл бұрын
Now put masks and gambesons on each of them. You will have an entirely different duel.
@obersaber6 жыл бұрын
But no gloves, just so they realize how hard it is to wipe with broken fingers.
@spidery76185 жыл бұрын
I love how you can SEE how much energy is pent up in the guy with a bokken, just look at how he excitedly hops around after landing a hit
@michaelsmathers16105 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, always like to see cross training. Two things: 1) Masks. Gloves. For your own safety, wear them. 2) Longsword, y u no vom Tag?
@CoffeeSnep4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he seems less experienced than his partner. It could also be the style he trains. I can tell it is most likely german. If not its fiore. Mine in particular is Bolognese, and many of our guards are much different than the germans or earlier italians. Our swords are also longer so it makes sense
@HmongKnight4ever10 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that try not to worry too much about the sword, but the skills of the man you're fighting. One little mistake and it's the end of the fight. Never underestimate your opponent.
@6Astro0510 жыл бұрын
Dark angel is right in reality it is one individual again the other. But, as this was playtime it's all good.
@obersaber6 жыл бұрын
Good reason to wear masks. They both thought they were at the level where they could show beginners that masks are not cool.
@brianthao10211 жыл бұрын
Steir12 True, but this is just a practice. If these men used all those classic combative skills with the actual weighted blades, someone could get hurt. This was just a video of two friends having a fun sparring. Not two competitors who are looking to win. Sure this illustrates nothing, but it still was fun to watch.
@Droulen11 жыл бұрын
This is not about full power combat. Im talking about tech. skill/feet work/there is absolutely not progress - its just hey Yo come and hit my stick! Yep that one who is holdin european blade it holds like a boss but technicaly its wrong. Still nice to watch for amateur eye but painfull for the rest.
@brianthao10211 жыл бұрын
I not expecting a person to use deadly precision on a sparring. Sparring is all about display and practice. If they do not meet the right potential skill, then they can practice on that skill with study and more sparring with a partner. Even if the partner isn't using the same sword style. It's only for sport, not really for combative use because people these days use guns now...
@Droulen11 жыл бұрын
How important is practising for somebody who cant even hold sword properly? U wanna run and cant walk yet. Im now talking about man who holds european swrd. Cant judge that second one. Im not so experienced with katana. To the second part with guns - mm...agreed, but still sword is the most honourable weapon ever, atleast for me.
@brianthao10211 жыл бұрын
It's good that you still honor the blade.
@kostas225cmp11 жыл бұрын
There are some videos around that feature full-protection sparring with blunted steel pieces. Those are very interesting to watch, particularly when they cross over different kinds of swords.
@JRiot1156 жыл бұрын
Few things to mention from the pov of someone who actually practices HEMA swordplay. (ps. I may be a little biased because of this, but hey aren't we all? Besides, at least I have the integrity to admit so.) Here are some highlights: 0:40 Superb parry from the kendoka. It even throws the longswordsman's balance off a little. 0:50 that was a feint not a failed thrust. The longswordsman does it a number of times again (0:25) it's a common move in HEMA, idk if Kendo/Kenjutsu makes use of misdirectional techniques. Otherwise, the Kendoka stood his ground like a boss. 1:00-1:03 Though it doesn't look like it, watch closely and you'll see that the kendoka took a hit to the face, meanwhile katana thrust got the longswordsman in the gut. (before I go on, keep in mind this is a friendly unarmored match. Had it been different circumstances (full protection, full contact sparring, bamboo/metal fencing/sparring swords), the Kendoka would've gotten quite a daze from a steel federschwert to the face, even with a fencing helmet on.) 1:15-1:20 Once again this was a feint. We can see seconds later, the Kendoka goes into a frenzy almost as though he doesn't know what he's gonna do next and is panicking, but that's just how I see it. 1:26 The Kendoka parries through the longswordsman's guard stance and lands a hit on the head, but look closely and you'll see the longswordsman recovers, which earns him a cut on the Kendoka's thigh/hip. 1:40 The longswordsman sidesteps and barely misses a strike, lands a devastating cut to the Kendoka's midsection. Beautifully done. 1:49 I have no words. That was just hilarious. 1:53 The Kendoka landed a cut to the longswordsman's neck, but look closely at the longswordsman's sword positioning before that occurrs. The Longswordsman landed a thrust to the kendoka's face, but pulled back cause he knew it would've hurt him since they weren't wearing any fencing gear and instead opted for a cut to the body. 2:07 This may seem like the Kendoka's point, but, once again look very carefully. The longswordsman blocks the kendoka's strike with his left hand. They both hear the ring and the match ends, the kendoka didn't get this one. If you practice a swordplay martial art, and disagree any of these, please feel absolutely free to dispute me on why. I'm still learning and would absolutely love to discuss swordplay with other swordsmen/women from a differing pov :D
@eadweard22142 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your explanation friend. Thank you. Helps me understand this a little bit better now
@badfoody5 жыл бұрын
For Honor Devs after watching this video: We're makin a game about this
@Suyamu9 жыл бұрын
Does the Bokken guy actually practice for real with it? His footwork for the most parts looked nothing like what is taught in Japanese swordfighting.
@willydoesfighting9 жыл бұрын
Suyamu I agree, I do Kendo and he doesnt seem to practice mcuh, his sword is always pointing to the ground as well:P
@Suyamu9 жыл бұрын
***** Personally I'd say the contrary - when he tried wakigamae stance to hide the sword, all it did was leave him unnecessarily open. It might give you some element of surprise when you first meet an enemy and he doesn't know your sword length, but after engaging with him already and using a run of the mill bokuto that's just not going to be the case.
@Suyamu9 жыл бұрын
William Bryant The pointing to the ground is Gedan, a basic stance. Not sure about the angle of his hands on the grip and whipping around of the sword - maybe his school does it that way - I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt there, but what looked weird to me was lack of suri ashi and the often twisted heels and hips when cutting which are very basic things. I thought those are pretty universal, even across different ryuha, thus I wondered if he was learning it in some school that way, or if he's self learned.
@josephward24849 жыл бұрын
Suyamu i dont really know anything of actual sword fighting but the way he used the sword when he swung and how he kept a simple stance standing upward it felt like he was staying on the defensive and waiting for the long-swordsman to make his move. he seemed to be waiting for parrying chances rather then outright attack head on. he was keeping up his defenses based on the fact he never really changed his stance from being straight he basically made himself a wall and because his back was straight aloud him to keep his form when he did need to parry the attacks as well as keep blocking strength. plus the guy had to have practiced long and hard he was parrying things normal people wouldnt even think to see and lightning fast too. but the stance he kept. it was very formal not used to seeing that as a man swings a blade in most styles. the stance is normally a little more outspoken... so because of this i would say he would likely have to be somewhat self taught. i mean heck he forced the other guy out of his stance several times he was clearly in a league of his own. but then again i could see the reason why the man stuck with this wall like stance the whole match. the long sword has much better reach then his blade. but in that case parrying and getting within the longsword-mans range would be his best bet considering its hard to attack or defend when so close. basically. i seem to think that regardless of how experienced the two fighters were the long-swordsman was at a disadvantage against that particular fighting style. thats just my opinion and personal observation. i dont really know anything about sword fighting styles and sword fighting arts,
@ocean90879 жыл бұрын
William Bryant If you did kendo, then you would understand that he can point his sword to the ground because the distance between the two were far enough that he does not have to have his bokken ready
@tyler61048 жыл бұрын
You know I ponder how many martial artist are actually Watching this video. This is a good sign of control of the space between the two, and they both a have a good balance of Techinque. None from what i can see seem to be in the expert level, but that is fine. I'm honestly not there either. I''ve been at it for five years. The idea of there techinque with out making content is nice to see. Because it does take great control and precission with each cut and strike. I give them props for the style and fineesse. Its not that easy to do what they did with good control, and specially since they move very in sync it leads me to believe they have crossed paths more then once in terms of sparring.
@MrVlonk8 жыл бұрын
1.Dan Kendoka here with Naginata experience. The Kendoka (Bokken) fighter is top notch level. Very high skill with lots of tricks in his bag. You can grasp his expertise from his calm outer demeanor (while always being ready to strike/counter). His precision counters and almost disarm (of a two handed weapon no less) at 0:40 speak for themselves. But the longsword fighter is no slouch either! I assume he is not used to fight without armor though because many of his strikes are clearly aimed at "taking less" damage then his enemy (while in Kendo "one strike kills" and therefore every hit must be prevented. It is clear that both fighters are coming from their distinct field (where they are very competent and know how to handle enemies with similar weapons) but both are struggling with the reach of their enemy. You can see that clearly at 1:49 when the Kendoka did not expect to be in reach of a piercing hit while defending himself with outstretched arms (I pierce you, you pierce me). Most hits from the Kendoka are counters or have to push the longsword out of the way first.
@brycesanders85468 жыл бұрын
+MrVlonk he's not a kendoka mate, using waki gamae and gedan no kamae in a sparring situation? I'm 2dan and I have never seen a kendoka of any level do that. Probably aikido, though I can't be sure.
@MrVlonk8 жыл бұрын
Derpy Dashie Learned all of that doing Kendo to. We have a very elaborate Kata system that is connected to Kendo (here in Germany). All those gamae are part of it and techniques seem similar. His behaviour is exactly as a kendoka would conduct himself in a sparring match, the gamae are unusual that is true. Considering he has the range disadvantage I can understand why he does not want to connect to the enemy sword. Waki is kinda pointless in this situation though... He could be a Iaidoka but only hint for that would be the white keigoki which is unusual in Kendo.
@oradrags6 жыл бұрын
Ok I just got this video on my recommendation after this was uploaded 11 years ago.
@olly25154 жыл бұрын
Basketball is getting wild
@barthalamuthetater1744 жыл бұрын
Ya lebron has gone down hill ever sense the long sword incident
@26febry4 жыл бұрын
This would be more awesome if they wear protective gear..
@matthewesquire45184 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This s a bit older, and HEMA has evolved but...no gear is a no-no, regardless of the level of expertise.
@J-IFWBR4 жыл бұрын
no i don't think so tbh =) but everybody has his own taste
@jigo539 жыл бұрын
shouldnt that be longwood? :D
@benis99658 жыл бұрын
+dies irae nice try to make a joke, i laughed, but nice try
@owlblocksdavid49558 жыл бұрын
+dies irae The term "waster" would be fitting.
@hsgfdhsfghdfgsy5 жыл бұрын
Fucc
@KageStelhman6 жыл бұрын
Those two were really evenly matched... that was really impressive to watch, thanks ^.^
@GrimReaperOoF10 жыл бұрын
I have trained medieval sword fighting and used real smithed swords (not sharpened,stub). Its the best way to learn control your weapon and yourself.
@giemelregis0010 жыл бұрын
and, where did you bought it, I have problem finding one.
@Kimerou10 жыл бұрын
Tokume Tensai You can find online. Be sure to buy swords that are 'battle ready' which are used for full contact medieval sword fighting. Also make sure the sword is blunt not sharpened. An example of a website is wulflund dot com they have many equipment regarding medieval times.
@giemelregis0010 жыл бұрын
Daniel Muscat thanks.
@giemelregis0010 жыл бұрын
Daniel Muscat don't worry, you can send links to youtube now. www.wulflund.com
@ElDrHouse201010 жыл бұрын
Tokume Tensai From the HEMA website google it. The RedDragon ones are pretty good.
@iseeicyicetea9 жыл бұрын
finde die wahl der waffen eher unglücklich. mit so einem holzschwert muss man sich doch sehr zurückhalten, damit man nicht aus versehen mal nen finger bricht (oder den kehlkopf... o.O).
@RydaliaAstora8 жыл бұрын
This is like watching dark souls. Dexterity build vs Strength build.
@Yprion8 жыл бұрын
+Ridalia like watching GOOD dark souls. No spaming brats and no backstab fishers
@robrockstar96488 жыл бұрын
+Ridalia which fighter is which build?
@NoahWeisbrod8 жыл бұрын
Nah. Only Dark Souls dex weapons have realistic movement. Strength weapons are crazy shit like hammers the size of cars.
@Yprion8 жыл бұрын
Noah Weisbrod 'dex weapons' aren't more realistic. You probably meant swords (katanas, straight swords and scimatars), spears and halberts. Scythes are dex weapons and... Well... They are as usefull as a human-sized hammer in a battle.
@NoahWeisbrod8 жыл бұрын
The Great Scythe is an exception, but the uchi, balder sword, falchion, scimitar, painting sword, Ricard's etc. all move semi-reasonably.
@eliasbischoff1767 жыл бұрын
These guys are amazing. Never losing their control for a second, never endangering each other, even though they don't wear any protection
@nuttawutnumpet339311 жыл бұрын
that William Wallace being chasing after by Nobunaga,
@gevlince11 жыл бұрын
Nobunaga wasn't more a firegun like warrior?
@nuttawutnumpet339311 жыл бұрын
haha, he uses the trained peasant to do that dirty works for him, the ashigaru are easier to train than the arrogant samurai, he adapted a modern warfare to dealing with the hostile who fierce with the calvary army, and indeed effectively, he made his ways so far, his campaign leading to a unification of japan continuing by his successor daimyos Toyotomi and Tokugawa after him.
@bobcromo32798 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the objective of a sword fight is to hit the other person not their weapon. Why no armour?
@aytcheff8 жыл бұрын
+bob cromo Actually, Many of the German Masters taught(I don't really know much about the italian masters because I've only studied Fiore a little) to cut against the cut, then (Indes)or in the moment, lever around their blade once parried, and get a cut in. This is seen most notably in the German Krumphau(Crooked Hew) where you cut sort of diagonally against the cut, then once you've pushed their blade off-line, you can then riposte.
@bobcromo32798 жыл бұрын
Harrison Fink I'm trying to type a response, but my turtle is climbing my feet and I can't focus.
@johnsierra35378 жыл бұрын
Most any move for a body that they make will leave them vulnerable. If they hit the other guy, he won't just drop and die, they'll swing at them. In a real life scenario, swordsmen will be very cautious in deciding when to strike; the goal isn't just to kill your opponent, you want to make it through the fight without any serious wounds.
@bobcromo32798 жыл бұрын
John Sierra I don't think they are wearing enough armour for sparring. Since the weapon is meant to hit the body, there could be injuries. I was not criticizing their technique, or any ones technique really. Just they should wear more armour so they don't break anything.
@riggermortisfpv5267 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, and fun to watch. It is sad to think of all that has been lost in Japanese sword arts during the Meiji period. What has been left are essentially sports with very strict rules, which when pitted against another martial art such as HEMA it can't quite stack up, although it is elegant looking.
@Bladestar76 жыл бұрын
Its not about style or weapon. Its more about the individual skill and how they apply it. The angles of attack are very similar between each weapon and martial artist.
@ThiagueraPlay8 жыл бұрын
Long sword with kendo techniques? it disappoint me.... I just can see.. kendo vs kendo with diferent swords...
@brycesanders85468 жыл бұрын
Heheh, I'd like to see a kendoka with an epee
@apollohateshisdayjob96068 жыл бұрын
a lot of techniques are semi universal between sword styles
@aidanalbin73908 жыл бұрын
+apollo grach both styles were developed in different places
@barghestblue7318 жыл бұрын
but a sword is still a sword,and it is still used in the same way as a sword, they're really are not THAT many ways to hit someone with a sword, especially since both a katana and longsword are TWO handed swords they will share a lot, if not all, of the same techniques.
@ThiagueraPlay8 жыл бұрын
Depends... you can use any sword to hit something, but if you have no techniques, you will no cut right and no enjoy all potential of your sword. The style of fights from European sword, and oriental katana, Kenjutsu, is diferent,I expected a better show of styles, but what i can see is the same, my critique was about that...
@adude82163 жыл бұрын
0:38 Has to be the most beautiful parry I've ever fucking seen
@Arcana4373 жыл бұрын
Too bad he didn't follow up ughh
@jamie_d___6 жыл бұрын
I’ve had some good fights similar to this in the park with my son using sticks we were pretending were light sabres