Bold and Beautiful 6525

[@zuzanavystrcilova7001]

What I like, and have always liked, about Steffy is that she never ever tries to trap Liam to be with her. She always gives him and out. The first time he asked her to marry him after Hope left him, she asked the next day if he regrets it. She gave him an out. She asked him to marry her in Aspen but he didn’t have to say yes. When he wanted time away to be separated, she gave him time and allowed him to pursue Hope even though it hurt her. She supported him in Italy. She didn’t demand he sticks to his promises, she told him to marry Hope. She gave him time when Hope left him again and support him with her friendship. She gave him an out when Hope and him found the truth and Liam decided to stay with her because she is the one who has always believed in him and made him smile. She gave him time to spend with Hope while she was in Paris. She gave 3 outs when telling him about the baby and even now when he asked her to marry him. Sometimes i wonder if hopeless fans are actually watching the series with Hopeless coloured filter because they have no idea what is happening on the screen. Steffy and Liam are the endgame. They might be going through a horrible path at the moment 2019-2020 but I really hope that the writers will stop being biased towards Logans and realise where the treasure and true love and soulmates lay. It’s Liam & Steffy. They should and deserve their happily ever after with Kelly and maybe another baby.

[@felicea10]

I agree with everything you said and might i add that all the beautiful things Liam told Steffy she never once threw it in his face to make him feel guilty as for Hope every chance she got she threw in Liam's face about him say they will always be together and that he will always love her. To be honest and this is my opinion I believe that Hope was obsessed with being Liam. After being away in Paris or wherever she kept a ring he gave her to put back on her finger after Liam and Steffy had problems

[@merissathaver7436]

I totally agree with you

[@Scobster51]

Well put.... Awesome 👍

[@timholycross5122]

I hope.so and agree totally 100%

[@SuperShepard1]

She did have Hope trapped in the Gondola! She also went after EVERY man Hope ever had! She's always wanted what Hope had because Ridge chose to be with Brooke and Hope over Taylor and Steffy.

[@lorikoenig6111]

Hope talking like she decided everything🙄she tried her hardest to quilt Liam into choosing her over Steffy and the baby. When that didn’t work she tells Liam to marry Steffy when he would have anyway.

[@traciepfalz6820]

God, Hope is so stupid!

[@pjmoneybags2780]

But Liam and Steffy didn't stay together, so maybe Hope had the right idea and it wasn't guilt Liam felt, it was real love. A baby is not glue.

[@nancytautuaa8996]

@@pjmoneybags2780 he chose Stephie because he loves her 😃 he did married her also Hope didn't have to tell Liam to marry Stephie he would of done it anyway like Stephie said they can make their own decisions and she said they're fine as they're lol

[@pjmoneybags2780]

@nancytautuaa8996 They are not fine, they never will be with Liam running back and forth between Steffy and Hope, something he's done on more than I occasion. Liam always wanted them both but he always said Hope was the one he wanted to spend his life with.Those were words from his own mouth, not mine. It's never a good idea to use trickery to get a man, something Steffy did from day 1 with. Liam, if someone really loves and wants to be with you trickery is not needed so it shouldn't have to be your plan to get them to stay with you. I think the whole idea is beneath any women with proper self esteem or worth fighting for a man that way. Liam's waffling is not a selling point in my view. Why fight over a man who is not satisfied with being with just you and still has feelings for his ex ? Why blame the other woman when the only one that should be blamed is the waffler himself because without his willing participation the situation wouldn't exist. These women can either except this waffling or move on.

[@lorikoenig6111]

@@pjmoneybags2780but not by Liam’s choice! Steffy left because she thought she couldn’t have another child. Liam begged Steffy to come back from Paris. Steffy is and will always the love of Liam’s life. Hope was puppy love.

[@kntrygrllife7703]

The ONLY reason HOpeless told Liam to marry Steffy, is because Steffy told Liam to marry HOpeless in Italy, she's trying to play the martyr and make herself look good after the surprise elopement, she's trying to save face, and to make herself feel like she's vindicated that Liam doesn't really love Steffy, what she didn't count on are his real feelings for Steffy, they're alot stronger than HOpeless ever let herself believe, we see this later on after Steffy leaves and Liam still can't let her go. The ONLY reason Liam is married to HOpeless now(2022) is because Steffy took herself out of the equation and Liam had no other choice but to marry HOpeless cause Sally wasn't around. He had no other choice

[@DAVegas-yc8xq]

Facts!!! Applause 👏

[@mengistusophie]

If steffy didn't say yes i think liam was about to have a panic attack

[@Amber01able]

she is beautiful she is warm kind and she loves liam

[@Scobster51]

I noticed how everyone flip flops also not just Liam 🤣🤣🤣 I remember when Bill was in love with Steffy he wanted to help Taylor n her family 🤔 now he wanna protect Brooke n her spawns 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@gabrielbrewster107]

But Bill is committed to one woman whilst having different affairs on the side. On the other hand, Liam is stringing two women along. Going back and forth like a tennis match. Never pushing one away when he has made a "committment" to the other. Constantly, having the SAME "decision to make" over and over again. Never sticking to any decision he has taken for long. Liam is the most disgusting male character . Liam does NOT deserve either Steffy or Hope.

[@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi]

​@gabrielbrewster107 Wait, so cheating is OK as long as you are in a committed relationship ( wtf lol) but being indecisive about your choices. Thats where you draw the line? 😂😂😂😂

[@annettegordon7870]

BILL you understand now that ERIC getting SOME and you getting NONE... However, the Town Bike, the EASY LAY can make that happen for you in no time, the stalker has her eyes on you now so WATCH OUT!

[@DAVegas-yc8xq]

Hope said she'd help raise Steffy's baby ( Aspen) with Liam in a heartbeat - but she glared at Kelly with such disdain....

[@christineingram8832]

I thought Hope accept Kelly after Steffy had the motorcycle accident

[@Amber01able]

unless he wanted to marry steffy and hope made him feel less guilty

[@zuzanavystrcilova7001]

We know he wanted to be with Steffy. Brooke nearly had to force his hand to put that ring on the finger.

[@PanteA..]

Funny, Liam can be equaly happy with either Hope or Steffy. He is soft and very flexible!

[@DeMarcusFountain-sv6fi]

He loves both of them that's why. They each bring something in his life he craves

[@lorikoenig6111]

He was miserable with Hope most of the time.

[@pinkheart6080]

I can't believe Brooke! How she used rick and Bridget to get men

[@ladyd7188]

No woman will ever allow another woman to raise her child.

[@janetferrari9188]

Speaking of which, how did Maya get over the death of her little girl so quickly?

[@Erica_anne]

Yes and if roles were reversed Brooke would not even consider that

[@KenishaDavis-z4b]

@@Erica_annethat part

[@Amber01able]

so he telling steffy not obligated as hope is saying interesting wording after what Hope demanded liam tells steffy because he wants steffy

[@Amber01able]

i think Liam had the jolt from what Hope said to spur him on and keep the Hogans happy and thinking they are always in control

[@nancytautuaa8996]

Now Brooklyn will go home longing for Bill 🤣🤣🤣

[@zuzanavystrcilova7001]

She is such a hypocrite.

[@231natasha]

Go on Liam, tell steffy your only asking her cos Hope asked you too

[@lushondajohnson983]

Instead of getting Katie help Bill sleeps with her sister.

[@christineingram8832]

Bill and Brooke don't know Katie was going through postpartum depression. Taylor is the one figure it out when she left Bill and Will

[@felicea10]

And there he goes doing what Hope tells him to do #LiamTheWaffler

[@Sconzette]

I know right? now why in the hell is he listening to Hope on when to marry Steffy!??

[@mengistusophie]

I think hope deep inside wanted liam not to actually marry steffy

[@ansaksa]

@@mengistusophie I think at first it was shock to her that she have never chance with Liam again. But now dhe is accepting the fact how things should be

[@mengistusophie]

True but still she new liam would have married steffy anyway eventually then and again years later wait how he is going to feel when he sees how steffy is reacting to Finn don't think he is going to like it

[@DAVegas-yc8xq]

Liam can't ever rhink for himself.

[@AD-tw9yu]

Ok, Brooke is saying that Liam doesn't have to get married to raise their child but when Ridge got with Katie, she was saying RJ need both of his parents???? Since it Steffy and Liam it's a different set of rules so Hope and Liam can be together.

[@monicahenderson3401]

Hope gets the same ring and steffy always get a different ring has anyone notice that

[@Amber01able]

Hope is smug now

[@zuzanavystrcilova7001]

I really do dislike the character of Hope. Entitled little brat!

[@DAVegas-yc8xq]

Hope has always been entitled

[@blairf7118]

So Liam couldnt wait a week...maybe actually get a ring..do something special..he had to do it that same day 🧐

[@KenishaDavis-z4b]

I know right

[@vibekes2416]

Liam talking like he's the one who decided everything 😣😥

[@MenelikTime]

So sad lol

[@lorikoenig6111]

Vibeke S He did decide everything. Know one put a shot gun to his head. He choose Steffy and the baby. Know one forced him to do that or to marry steffy🤦‍♀️

[@DAVegas-yc8xq]

Liam never could think for himself.

[@MaZaKeRaL]

I know having a baby doesn't mean much to you Brooke, being a home wrecker and all. But to some people it's quite a big deal and they sacrifice their desires to be there for their child.

[@kitjune9333]

Stephanie dying didn't happen to Brooke, it happened to Stephanie. Y'all need to stop acting as if Brooke lost her mom. Liam, go jump. You're a waste of Steffy's time.

[@Amber01able]

steffy is too good for him

[@toridavis8335]

Really he is. I don't feel bad 4 him. Steffy keeps asking him over and over r u sure?

[@ZoeRose13]

kit june she was steffy and Thomas’s grandmother. Pam’s sister, ridge, thorne, kristen and felicia’s mom!!Brooke and her kids have no claim over Stephanie Douglas

[@quietnerdgirl]

Amen Kit June

[@DAVegas-yc8xq]

@@ZoeRose13 they used Stephanie's death as another way to make themselves the victims.

[@Amber01able]

no ring steffy I would corner him into why now?

[@ansaksa]

Finally they are dealing this like an adults! Hope is not acting selfish and No rushed engament and romantical proposals but actual talking.

[@hermandonado4466]

Idk what these women see in Liam, he's so undecisive, you got to tell him what to do. Hope and Steffy both have to make decisions for him, go to her , marry her and when he's with one of them he thinks about the other one and vice versa. I wish Bnb would stop hooking up Hope with these lame ass pretty boys and hook up her with a hunky bad boy whos not rich, the storylines would be better.

[@mengistusophie]

For a smart girl Katie really does not know bill aswell as she thinks clue he said Brooke is turned on should have given her a clue where his mind was just she ignored steffys all those years ago how Much Bill was in love with steffy now 10yrs later he still is

[@babyfacejules2030]

They say the name baby so many times stephy ends up losing the baby 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@kimberlyhenderson4806]

Why didn't dummy just asked Taylor and Eric are they really in love

[@amandamandamands]

Eric told her that they are and Brooke said that Taylor is manipulating him and he just can't see it yet and she won't allow it to continue.

[@TyraBriAnne]

😂😂😂😂

[@Amber01able]

no ring no I wouldn't steffy

[@princesssara3713]

I like steffy her personality is cool 😎 and she knows what she wants but hope and liam are lame and boring steffy needs a real man

[@zuzanavystrcilova7001]

Well according to the spoilers she is getting a new man in 2020... I’ve got mixed feelings about it as I still feel that Liam and Steffy belong together and are the endgame!

[@mieshaclarissa]

Zuzana Vystrcilova I agree with that last part

[@UrGworlCanCan]

17:28 -17:35 🤣🤣😎

[@lisagrant5232]

On the show today they should have Liam go after Steffy the way she did to get Liam to be with her as her husband. What gos around comes right back around. It will be STEAM again. Sooner than u think. Finn is a flop.

[@karenprince6840]

Katie are you even paying attention to how much time your husband is spending with your sister he kissed not too long ago?

[@zuzanavystrcilova7001]

I still cannot believe that Katie forgave him! TWICE!!! And Brooke as well???

[@victoriaford8449]

Liam and hope+ Bill and Steffy+

[@princesssara3713]

Brook please stop 🛑 being a home wrecker

[@robindeas1610]

She Can't Help It It's In Her DNA

[@zuzanavystrcilova7001]

She can’t help herself even when it comes to her sister .... it’s ridiculous how much she gets away with

[@luisaoelkers813]

Hope learned from the Best

[@lisagrant5232]

That is bad writing Hopeless did ask Liam about raising the baby Liam basic said no this baby was conceived in Love. Hopeless just said she didn't ask him about raising this baby together, but she did.

[@bettygiles5803]

Liam, didn't want to leave his baby behind. Steffy second choice that all.

[@SindyGarcia-w6y]

Brooke is really a homewrecker you know. Wow, that woman is unbelievable!

[@abbyrose6660]

of course brooke sees nothing wrong with hope breaking up a family since she spent all those years breaking up steffy’s family. shes so shameless talking about hope becoming another parent for steffy and liam’s baby when the only parents that baby needs is them. all hope’s interference would do is have that baby resent her the same way steffy resents brooke.

[@victoriaford8449]

I would say Liam and hope wer more happy with each other Bill and everybody else came in between that was Steffy saw that was her new love she came in between that and use Bill open her legs to get what she wanted Steffy was and still is deeply in love with Bill Spencer but she's Liam as a decoy

[@victoriaford8449]

I don't see anything honest about Steffy Forrester she trapped Liam into getting pregnant the first time she's a deceitful person just like her mother and her grandmother by Steffy Forrester has always played games with Liam and hopes relationship she had a clue that bill and other people were involved but yet she didn't say anything to Liam she has always been a deceitful person hell even her own family members are betrayed her Rick and Brooke and Katie didn't tell her the truth this is why I feel for hope

[@jaquiel5332]

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[@SmugPug1]

I really love these old episodes, they explain a lot but I miss the hell out of Stephanie and Ridge. Steffy senses something wrong with Liam's propsal. Too bad Hope is the one that pushed him to do it. So spineless.

[@maveemusic5316]

Bill now you love Brooke now Brooke her sister Katie home as a council home 😂😂😂😂😂

[@victoriaford8449]

Brooke Logan Forrester is right they don't have to get married and raise their child Liam deeply loves hope and they would have been married isn't it ironic how Steffie was so in a rush to stop hopes wedding to Liam he deeply loves her and she stopped their wedding but she use Bill to stop Hope from coming and interrupting their temporary wedding

[@Sconzette]

And don't leave out Hope told you to marry Steffy!!!

[@merissathaver7436]

Just like steffy told liam to marry hope in Italy.... Liam needs to be told what to do, cannot make up his own mind

[@yao052]

Marie ooh and i bet you never left of details ever in your entire life?

[@RedouaneRedou]

@@yao052 "a detail" how in this world this could be just "a detail" its somethin huge its really crazy that Liam didnt say it first and then givin his opinion. Thats dishonest and humiliating for steffy cuz its doesnt comes from himself. He did it in a shady way.

[@Sconzette]

@@yao052 😂

[@marlenerami3151]

😮

[@lindapeters7182]

Sorry hope is not perfect

[@PanteA..]

Brooke is devel and Katie is not the right woman for Bill. She neglects him.

[@melindaburnside7189]

👍

[@victoriaford8449]

Bill Spencer never approve of Hope because he was so obsessed with getting involved with Steffy Forrester sexually he was willing to do anything for Steffy Forrester through her body and be able to get the company back and she succeeded she used her body by the same way she claimed that Brooke does

[@kathycaldwell8475]

Steffy never ever tried to trap Liam. Are you serious or maybe you all are delusional.

[@bouwkundigadviesbureau]

At first, she told every one not to mention the baby until he made a decision about who he chooses, me or Hope. Just as he was about to marry Hope, the first thing she says is, 'I'm pregnant.' Now that he's with her, Stephi asks him al the time, 'Do you really want to be with me?' A bit hypocritical of her, don't you think?"

[@victoriaford8449]

I love Hope and Liam together and never really had their fair shot because Bill Steffy and Rick and the rest of everybody using them especially Bill and Steffy they were in love with each other but they used Liam and hope to break their bond with each other

[@bettygiles5803]

Hope should have not to tell Liam to marry Steffy. Liam don't to marry Steffy.

[@MrBlaze27ify]

Is this where baby Kelly comes in?

[@tiannahook2718]

no steffy had a miscarriage the first time but in the starte of 2018 kelly came in

[@Amber01able]

no this is the baby Steffy sadly loses after bike crash

[@Amber01able]

no this was to be phebe

[@UrGworlCanCan]

This is Steffy and Liam first pregnancy and the baby name was gonna be Aspen. This baby was miscarried due to a Motorcycle accident. Kelly happened last year.

[@vibekes2416]

@@UrGworlCanCan Correct 😊

[@chaisegaines4692]

Brooke delusional af!!! How is Hope going to be the 2nd parent!!! How can Hope convince Liam to marry her and co-parent with Steffy? Liam chose to rsyse the baby surgery Steffy!! Steffy gave him an out before he talked to Hope AND after he talked to Hope! Steffy made it CLEAR that they didn’t need to be together, she told him she was fine with his decision no matter how much it would hurt! He chose to stay with her! This is the complication when you love 2 people where as Hope and Brooke are just as manipulative they just call it following their heart, their destiny, going after the man they love but why isn’t the same when Steffy does it!!! NO ONE MADE Liam propose to Steffy or stand on that mountain and say I do!! All his own choices, yea she manipulates the situation but Liam has always been a willing participant

[@aquintaancrum4385]

Brooke is too damn delusional!

[@leespike2078]

Brooke please

[@MenelikTime]

For all of you saying hope is selfish and only care about herself.. one thing I always love hope honesty, loyalty pure love and understanding.. I know it's hurts to tell him to do so but she's knows it's the right thing for the baby..

[@aliciathornton2521]

Hope wasn't always honest

[@luisaoelkers813]

What you Talk IT ??? OMG

[@jackack1429]

Bill is such an man child. He is ridiculously immature and selfish.

[@gracemukemba88]

Can evrybody just leave hope elon she is trying to move on whith her life i just hoop that hope will find happy ness whith thout Liam i just dont like Liam .