Bold and the Beautiful - 1989 (S2 E252) FULL EPISODE 493

Katie tells Donna she is ready to move out. Margo suspects Clarke is up to something and sneaks a look at his designs. Stephanie warns Ridge that Caroline may break up with Thorne to be with him. Brooke says the doctor confirmed her pregnancy.
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Episode: 493
Season: 2
Original Air Date: March 17, 1989
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[@boldandbeautiful]

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[@taureanmay1411]

Pumped.

[@erikandrus4387]

I like how this show, as my friend Daniel tells me, plays all the beats: of Stephanie's controlling nature, of Brooke's desperation, of Margo's jealousy, of Clarke and Sally's opportunism, just all of it takes it time and develops character along the way so when the next big thing happens you understand why it's happening. Soaps today are not allowed this development, it literally has to burn story. (I am guilty when I write my independent, creative projects). I wish I had a mentor!

[@itsjodiewho]

You are so correct. I watched a recent season of bb and a new character was introduced and within an episode or 2 they pulled they will they or wont they get together and I'm thinking -Why would care? I don't even know this new guy.

[@hrh-xj4fh]

I agree...today they miss all the beats..no chsracter development and to qik 30 second scenes...

[@georgcorfu]

Erik Andrus Not only that but also the fact that we participate in the story and suffer or have all sort of other feelings shows that it is a tragedy just like it started in Ancient Greece.

[@drlee2]

You also see the characters always working at and invested in their jobs on a daily basis. Like, they are literally always talking shop at the breakfast table and also actually at work doing WORK! lol And the entire family actually knows the business and feel like the actually know about design and fashion. Ridge, Kristen, and Thorne aren't just lazy, spoiled, rich brats, but hard workers who take pride in their work.

[@karrenherrin90]

Why doesn’t Shelly just move in with Katie and Donna? Seems stupid to waste money on rent when they could all live in the Logan home.

[@citydweller99]

Because Katie was ready to take the 1st step to being an adult

[@gabrielepoletti6750]

To.write.off.Katie

[@daytimedrama]

Haha, yeah, silly

[@daytimedrama]

And who is this Shelly, do we know her? They could have Katie move in with Stacy.

[@missestmi2044]

@@daytimedrama Exactly I love Stacy

[@Karla_Marie]

Some of this dialogue would not fly today.

[@joyr36]

Margo is like the gum stuck on the bottom of your shoe that you can't get rid of. What Brooke did with the letter was wrong, but Caroline got the letter before she married Thorne. It was a small family wedding and planned in one day. Caroline could have easily and should have canceled the wedding if she still loved Ridge. Caroline tries to put all of the blame on Brooke for her marrying Thorne instead of Ridge, but Caroline is the one that made the final decision to go ahead with the wedding.

[@elaineellard5848]

Exactly Thorne rushed that wedding way too quickly so he could make sure Caroline didn’t figure out if she wanted to be with him over ridge.

[@MalloryNewcomb]

@@elaineellard5848 Not to mention their relationship got going in the aftermath of her rape and while she went to trial for it. So the reality of that story is that her relationship with Thorne was based on support through trauma. There wasn’t much else that they shared. The emotional connection and he care & concern for her was real but that’s not a romantic relationship.

[@georgcorfu]

9.17 For the first time Stephanie is doing the right thing. I don't know why but she doesn't want Caroline to go ahead with Ridge. Maybe because she is scared Thorn might attempt for a second time to shoot Ridge.

[@Angelika....]

Katie moving out.. the logan family is breaking. Saaaad. I like the different charakters

[@rosamariann]

Thorne has nothing to do with this 😂 Talk about denial.

[@markbaker1680]

I don't think her shrink is doing a good enough job.🤣

[@rosamariann]

@@markbaker1680 lol…right again!

[@VjAdrasaVideos]

@@markbaker1680 lol

[@daytimedrama]

That made me laugh as well

[@mara4450]

I doubt that Caroline is seeing that therapist anymore. But yes, Caroline is acting and talking as if her marriage and Thorne are an alfterthought. She is treating the situation - still being married and sharing her husband's rooms and bed - as "a little complication" - while she acts as if Brooke is the one who currently interferes in her relationship - more her "secret affair" - with Ridge. It must be denial.

[@chayawanjari1424]

V Comments : Clarke , Margo is very boring.Ridge finally told Stephanie to stay away from Thorne's business. She wants to keep a secret that Thorne shot him. Clarke is really getting to me now.

[@sbookey]

Caroline seems to be channeling her inner Stephanie.

[@Me-je8mw]

Finally done with season 2 !

[@dudumokoena8458]

Seemed like everyone's wardrobe and hairstyles progressed into the 90's while Katie's got stuck in the 80's. What is that she's wearing in this episode?

[@elaineellard5848]

Looks as if she’s wearing Grandma’s clothes. 🤣🤣

[@pawew.135]

It's funny that Stephanie talks so much about being young and restless (!) and Eric's relationship with another woman but forgets that she herself had another man who was actually Ridge's father.

[@farrisflagg6309]

I think this is Nancy Sloan's final appearance as Katie Logan. Her character wasn't used a lot.

[@gabrielepoletti6750]

Sad i.wonder.what.happend.to.Nancy.Sloan

[@deesee3622]

She was at Brooke and Eric’s wedding I think and Brooke and ridges I thought

[@daytimedrama]

She comes back several times for guest appearances. There's a storyline years later when Brooke goes missing, where Sloan, Mitchum and Burnett are brought back briefly in their roles to help locating Brooke. And one strange (because unnecessary) storyline when Katie asks Brooke for her blessing to work as a waitress (?). And one involving Ridge asking Katie to help him get Brooke back.

[@KariIzumi1]

@@deesee3622 Nancy Sloan's last appearance was at Brooke's wedding to Thorne in '01 IIRC

[@kounava]

Last appearance of Sloan was in 2004 at Brooke and Nick wedding. Today was her last contract scene, she will appear in a couple of episodes in 1989 again

[@karrenherrin90]

DUH!!!! Brooke, do you need hit over the head? Yes she loves Ridge. BTW, Caroline said not to bring Thorne into this, this has nothing to do with him. Seriously, Caroline?

[@kershabeaver3312]

Is the last episode with Katie

[@MrCraigblaze]

Thanks for the Upload 👍!! Xd Nice to see two sets of women at odds over a baby or a pregnancy. !! XD

[@taureanmay1411]

You're welcome, and thanks 🙏👍 for that comment 🤠🎉🎊😺😸😹😁 for these two again.

[@DonaldTaft]

Nancy Sloan's final regular appearance as Katie and they can't even have Brooke in the farewell scene with her and Donna - another lame, lame departure for an original character/cast member. Don't know what they were thinking in those days.

[@DegrassiInstantStar]

It has become clear, to me, they were shifting focus: moving Brooke into the Forrester family and Donna into the Spencer family, in a way to ultimately eliminate the Logan family, etc. It's disappointing, because the Logan family added a third dimension to the Forrester & Spencer families. And I do believe this was being done in order to further develop Sally Spectra and that side of the storyline.

[@Thebeautiful11]

I do not like the message this show is or was sending about women and pregnancy in the 80s.

[@julijakeit]

or women chasing after a man who is a cheater, selfish, playboy, pushy, indecisive?

[@kershabeaver3312]

Clarke us up to no good. As always.

[@HunterWrangler]

This appears to be Frederick Johnson’s first writing credit on the show.

[@angelscorpio5485]

For some reason I can’t find the next episode on this playlist

[@Anastashya]

Look up Season 3 Episode 1 1989

[@MVE-m8g]

If only Ridge could be this firm with his mother in the future

[@nightowlchad]

I don't remember seeing Nancy Sloan's last episode. I remember channel surfing 🌊 and saw her on Days of our Lives and said wait? Wasn't that Katie on B&B?

[@elaineellard5848]

Get her Caroline. So sick of Brooke.

[@tobydean7097]

I wish Could get that outfit Kristen is wearing???? I'd wear it today!!!!

[@irenewanjiru7346]

Brook is really pregnant

[@henriettaroos449]

This stuff is so good!😍👏👏

[@kershabeaver3312]

Caroline daydreaming about Ridge

[@missestmi2044]

I dislike loose ties and cliff hangers! Katie could've went off to College. Dave could of got transferred somewhere else. Nick could of still been around, him and Rocco were getting a nice bromance. Rocco could've stuck around. Storms send off could of been better.

[@jessicascalzitti8268]

You’re right - was there a mass termination in 1989? Lol

[@missestmi2044]

@@jessicascalzitti8268 Yes they were all likeable characters

[@missestmi2044]

@@trinit2108 Wow interesting, that would've been great

[@prestonrcasey]

I am completely guessing on this, but I think there had a lot to do with actor interest and the public reaction to these characters not being favorable at the time. It would've been easy to recast some of these characters but I think critics were coming down on some of the storylines which is why we saw a lot of these characters dwindle off. It's the same thing now, except the show today just sucks and is boring with no fault of the actors/actresses coming on

[@DegrassiInstantStar]

@@jessicascalzitti8268 Pretty sure it was William J. Bell's way of cleaning slate and re-shifting the focus from the Forrester, Logan & Spencer families to the Forrester, Spectra & Spencer families. Clearly he thought there was room for one B-line family, and it was a trade-off of Logan for Spectra. In the long run it was a nice switch... but I do think there was room for both.

[@PostPandemicMadonna]

Caroline acts delusional. Brooke doesnt owe you anything.

[@NikkiHeat1215]

And the opposite applies... Caroline doesn't owe her any loyalty

[@renubhandari3574]

👍👍👍

[@greggel]

great show off between Brooke and Caroline...and finally Brooke admits that the pregnancy is her leverage to hold on to Ridge.

[@brendalpakyntein2891]

She had too.. to get Caroline to back off.. Caroline was so2 aggresive.. I mean the things Caroline was saying and doing are outrageous considering she is still married to Thorne who knows nothing of these actual developments. She goes to see ridge and unload her feelings on him.. Next minute she goes down to Thorne office and is about to let him kiss her before the phone rang to distract him. She is shamelessly throwing herself at Ridge without having the decency to break it off with Thorne first. M sure Brooke will say anything at this point as Caroline has crossed the limit as a married woman.

[@PostPandemicMadonna]

Its not. She s realy pregnat and she took pills. So yeah its a little bit Ridge s job too you knoa, she didint become pregnat without help.

[@greggel]

@@PostPandemicMadonna never said otherwise .

[@PWB81]

@@brendalpakyntein2891 at the end of the day no matter what, Thorne and Brooke started it off when they involved and manipulated their way into whatever was going on between Ridge and Caroline and made themselves unwanted ingredients in that callaloo.

[@greggel]

@@brendalpakyntein2891 she had to admit that? If she didnt feel this way she wouldnt say it. She could always say that Ridge loves her and the baby is irrelevant

[@Lynnck]

I’d there no episode 253?😢

[@georgcorfu]

27.49 Caroline here has no respect for Brooke who after all helped her in the most difficult time of her life and even offered her accomodation for a long time. The only thing she is thinking of is that Brooke took Ridge from her.

[@tobydean7097]

But Brooke only befriended Caroline to get close to Ridge and the family?!!!!! She never gave a damn about Caroline!!!!

[@NikkiHeat1215]

Brooke did it for herself, that's karma

[@elaineellard5848]

Exactly.

[@greggel]

is this original Katie 's last day as contract character?

[@daytimedrama]

Felt like it

[@szemingwu1980]

Oooh that sexy saxophone music 0:02 Last time we see Katie? 7:20 Bern Bennett 21:30

[@citydweller99]

Katie comes back for visits until early 1991

[@daytimedrama]

@@citydweller99 I think even much later (I seem to remember she was still around at the same time as Grant was on the show)

[@jovanaivetic]

So Katie has an almost empty house and wants to move out, pay rent and all that?

[@sbookey]

MARGO: How clever of me!

[@carol-annlennards8183]

Technically Brooke the man is fair game until he walks you down the aisle. Take that stupid note of incredulity out of your voice. We all know that when you want a man all bets are off so to speak. Brooke amazes and amuses me, she does what she wants, always either rationalizing or playing the victim. Well its like my mother says.....do that dont like that.

[@mara4450]

If a woman does not even mind her own marriage, why would she mind the other woman's marriage? Wouldn't Ridge then not even be fair game even if they were married? Brooke brought up Caroline's husband and Caroline just rejected that notion. Why would it matter if Brooke ever wears Ridge's ring, if married people can just step away from their spouse in a second? What would make the Brooke-Ridge marriage different to Thorne-Caroline's?

[@semoneg2826]

@@mara4450 Exactly Caroline need to mind het business and focus on her own marital problems...This is crazy

[@bonniek5331]

I disagee if a couple is dating, in committed relationship, engaged, the man, is NOT fair game. You don't have to be married, to not want a 3rd party to try to push in. And that is what Caroline is doing!

[@Thebeautiful11]

Uhm, no...not for his sister in law he isnt.

[@Thebeautiful11]

@@mara4450 isn't. It will be a different story when Caroline has him. Watch how all her fans will hypocrite all over it.

[@kershabeaver3312]

Caroline, you are trying to push up on Ridhe. Caroline hoping Brooke isn't so she can divorce Thorne and move on with Ridge.

[@Anastashya]

Nothing is stopping her from divorcing Thorne even now.

[@markbaker1680]

@@Anastashya Sure there is. She wants Thorne as a back up in case Ridge doesn't leave Brooke. What a kind person Caroline is...

[@Thebeautiful11]

@@Anastashya Caroline is wicked. She repulses me.

[@v.b6028]

Can someone clarify? Is Clarke actually stealing the designs & giving to Sally? It looks more like he is trying to remember the designs he did that are sitting in Ridge’s filing cabinet, not necessarily stealing them. I’m confused.

[@witchd1981]

He’s not stealing, he’s trying to create designs that look as similar as possible to a Forrester style design

[@v.b6028]

@@witchd1981 thank you. So he’s pretending they are FC designs but they are his..thanks. I was really confused 😐

[@rosamariann]

I Technically any designs he create are Forrester’s Designs. He works for them and is not allowed to be designing for anyone else, especially a competitor. I think he is creating new designs that he is not giving to Forrester; this way when Sally gets them out Forresters never would’ve seen them so they would have less suspicion. He can get in big trouble if it was found out and fired, however, it would not be as bad as if he gave them the same designs as the ones that will be shown at the Forrester Fall showing.

[@kershabeaver3312]

@witchd1981 thank you for the clarification

[@deesee3622]

I figured he would design instead of steal - but it will also work him to death

[@nightowlchad]

Katie tell Donna

[@LeShaeeex]

YESSSSS STRESS HER TF OUT CAROLINE !! I'm here for Brooke's karma 😁

[@tobydean7097]

Has Kristen come up with a good design yet???? 😂

[@daliaelkhatib1726]

well Brooke knows that this is her last chance and caroline was right Brooke and Ridge were never destened to be together they were wrong from the start a one way relationship never works he does not want you Brooke stop stalling

[@Thebeautiful11]

It's not Brooke’s last chance. Lol

[@daliaelkhatib1726]

If you refer to the future she will fail in all her assumed chances the intruder It's her last chance in Caroline 's era