Bold and the Beautiful - 1994 (S8 E178) FULL EPISODE 1929

[@ksbaxter]

Seeing Eric and Sally getting all drunk and wild was priceless lol

[@MrCraigblaze]

Beyond words !! 😂😂

[@annieo6527]

When the episode description starts "Sally and Eric get drunk together..." you know it's going to be a good one.

[@TriniT21]

Indeed😂

[@MrCraigblaze]

You can tell the actors got along great in real life !! Too bad they were NOT on Y &R at the same time !!..

[@MrCraigblaze]

​​@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849Yes. He played One of Vanessa's Prentliss Sons The original Character..From 1974 75 -78 I think. Back when the show had The Printless ,Brooks And All of the Fosters on the show !! Not Eric.. He played someone else..

[@MrCraigblaze]

​@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 Oh yes. He has a TV soap opera career before bold..!! He played the original Lance Printless..

[@MrCraigblaze]

@@lastdayonearthmysteryman4849 Oh gosh Yes.. I won't even bother seeing the mess the show is today !!

[@maxinemccartney5284]

Love Sally's outragiously playful and flirtatious fun with Eric.

[@toplaycool21]

Sally is such a great character

[@ninaintranova9764]

What a great episode with Sally and Eric, i love them

[@briannakiser233]

Poor Macy I’m glad she was able to get better loved her and thorne as a couple and the music they made together those old concerts they used to do were fun to gave more mainstream appeal to bold and the beautiful to

[@ajax34]

"Mr Forrester honey" 😂

[@daliaelkhatib1726]

Thorne and Macy were always great together made for each other specially this Thorne he is like no other wonderful in everyway faithful too

[@kimrichards1007]

Gotta love Sally Spectra! Her and Stephanie make the show!

[@smcpherson6589]

❤❤❤ Sally makes Eric laugh heartily like no other. Its really the power of Sally's infectious personality that makes any scene seem brighter. Angel/Trinidad. ❤❤❤.

[@NewYorkNick0607]

Even Sally's forgotten that Brooke's still in control of Forrester

[@sharonstewart4882]

I'd like to forget 😄

[@parker341]

Brooke _herself_ has forgotten.

[@MrCraigblaze]

Not forever she isn't !!

[@susankent6051]

😂😂😂

[@filionsteve2133]

Like we all forgot

[@MyahUnleashed]

Man I miss Sally Sr. That had me cracking up when I watched B & B with my granny

[@annieo6527]

Macy to Thorne: "You were a stable guy until you met me." Umm, Macy... there are _certain things_ about Thorne that you may not be aware of. 😂

[@TriniT21]

Yeah.. Stable, so long as you keep away the alcohol and pills.. And hide all the guns

[@TriniT21]

​@@Esi-741 you are right.. This Thorne has too much going for him. But the Windsor Harmon version threw Thorne back to his original character and he def seemed unhinged to me, esp as he started back his rivalry with Ridge and kept running behind his brother's woman.

[@annieo6527]

@@TriniT21 yeah, in fact Macy may have got it all backwards - Thorne was never a personification of harmony and mental stability, but he was _only ever_ a (relatively) stable guy when he was with her.

[@babs4848]

And, again, she is taking all the responsibility for their failed relationship saying that she messed up his life...

[@annieo6527]

@@babs4848 exactly! They both shared some responsibility for messing up each other's lives, but like 80% of the mess was Thorne's doing...

[@TriniT21]

I felt a twinge of sadness when Thorne mentioned "telling their kids" about their first concert 😢 It's too bad the writers never gave them a child together. All the Forrester heirs are either Eric's or Ridge's (or Eric's , but everyone thinks it's Ridge's lol)

[@annieo6527]

Yes, in hindsight that made an already sad scene even sadder. Thorne sitting there happily making all kinds of plans for the future, dreaming about him and Macy having a long music career to tell their children about, and the viewers knowing that time will kill pretty much every one of those hopes and dreams of his.

[@marije25]

Yes it’s sad to think about how hard they fought to be together.(remember the prison storyline, and they where talking about the future, long honeymoon, build in recording studio, and lots of room for their children. After everything they had been through they deserved to be happy for a longer time then they’ve been and have a family of their own!! The writers missed a big oppurtinity here. As a big Bobbie&Jeff fan, and Thorne and Macy i’ve always hated they always seemed to be in the shadow of Ridge and Brooke when it comes to storylines and screentime. Can you imagine how cute, beautiful and talented their kids would have been😊😍

[@annieo6527]

@@marije25 I agree there was always this imbalance between the storylines involving Brooke/Ridge, who always got a lot of screen time, and the storylines involving Thorne/Macy, who got much less screen time to the point where it often felt like significant scenes were missing. And also when it comes to their legacy, Brooke has four children, Ridge had four (three of whom are still alive), Thorne had only one who died, and Macy had none.

[@mcjoysmith9103]

Yes Like Ridge and Caroline no children

[@annlavine3576]

kristen has a son but they wrote him out, Felicia no child, Thorn written out Thorn should have had a child with Macy, even Ridge has only one and he was written out

[@francoisekoko6068]

Only thing missing on this plane is Stéphanie to go ballistic about Sally and Éric having this much fun😂😂😂😂

[@filionsteve2133]

She will scream Al long lolll

[@katherineduboue9923]

That shade of red on Stephanie is so complimentary.

[@parker341]

Imagine having characters like Sally and Stephanie and deciding to make the show all about Brooke. Brad Bell was really sniffing the glue. 🥴

[@sharonstewart4882]

He was sniffing someone's glue alright!

[@marn25]

@parker341 And yet, you get an episode featuring these 2 great characters, and Sally being at some of her best, and you comment on Brooke who is not even in the episode.(Of course you can comment on whoever you like) Maybe it isn't so wrong that the show is "all about Brooke" with all the reaction she generates. Besides, Stephanie was always heavily featured and utilized well (in my opinion) during the time she was in the show. (Besides maybe when the actress was on vacation which also applies to Brooke's actress)

[@parker341]

​@@marn25 I made a comparison to Brooke because I know the show becomes all about her later on and I don't like that. Watching the scene with Sally and Eric today, I was marveling at how GOOD Darlene Conley is. The mellifluous voice, the mannerisms, the way she dominates the screen through sheer force of personality and charisma. I'm sorry but KKL just doesn't have that.

[@marn25]

@@parker341 This weaker actress though played a central character from the very first episode of this show, who remained central, and as I said plays her well enough to generate all kinds of emotions from the viewers. She may not be as good as Susan Flannery (that's impossible concerning all actors in the show), but together they created some of the most unforgettable moments in this show. And she didn't spoil any for Susan Flannery so she can't be that weak. Now, I am not sure why they lessened Darlene Conley's part in later years and had her cool down before her departure. Wasn't the case with SF and fortunately and we had her in her full glory till the very end. And as far as I know it was her decision to leave. Could they find another SF? Not sure about that.

[@parker341]

@@marn25 I disagree that she was a central character from the beginning and anyway centrality doesn't mean a character is more interesting or the actor is great. I just don't find Brooke as dynamic a character as some others on this show.

[@fabianacastagnoli9542]

Sally ❤❤❤

[@annieo6527]

I am only just now realizing that the show is doing this "thematic connection" thing again with the two conversations on the plane! Eric and Thorne are both speaking optimistically about the future (Eric taking about putting his differences with Sally aside, and Thorne talking about his and Macy's bright future as singers), while Sally and Macy both have a secret that they know will jeopardize the very thing that the men are talking about (Sally's involvement in Dylan's trial means she will not be able to put aside her differences with the Forresters, and Macy's illness may well prevent her and Thorne from having the singing career they want). So in both conversations, there is a dissonance between what the Forrester men _believe_ and what the Spectra women _know._

[@kimrichards1007]

Would have loved to have seen Sally get Eric to join the “mile high club”! Now that would have won a daytime Emmy! Now that would have been a great episode!

[@TriniT21]

I still say, instead of the writers giving Steph this Jessica story, it should have been Steph to start getting suspicious by Taylor's papers being left in Morocco, then Ridge and Brooke being invited to Morocco, then the prince in Morocco getting married to someone who from the nose bridge up looks suspiciously like Taylor. One thing Steph can do, is put 2 and 2 together faster than anyone else. Instead of staying home to babysit Jessica, she could have been on a flight to Morocco to investigate her suspicions.. Which would have been a very plausible reason for missing Thorne's concert as she would put Taylor over Thorne any day lol

[@NewYorkNick0607]

YES! The way to make the Morocco storyline compelling would've been to make it another battleground between Stephanie and Brooke. It should've always been Stephanie discovering Taylor is alive and trying to bring her home vs Brooke discovering Taylor is alive and trying to prevent her from revealing it to Ridge. Instead they sidelined Stephanie for most of it and when she does find out, she's inexplicably on Brooke's side for a while thus draining the story of ANY momentum.

[@TriniT21]

​​@@NewYorkNick0607EXACTLY! I needed Steph to get involved. And get in Omar's face! Omar might be a prince, but steph is the QUEEN 👑👸🏼

[@TriniT21]

​@@Esi-741I'm surprised Eric didn't bring his next new wife back to LA from the red light district

[@NewYorkNick0607]

@@Esi-741 😂 Happy to pass the Eric dragging baton

[@bettyhopson]

Yes, I think you are on to something there in having Steph find out Taylor is alive. Just watched the episode where Steph catches on to Taylor in disguise…finds out she has been alive for a year. Steph is incredulous as she listens to Taylor explain her absence…😳🤔🤨

[@jkoncz]

JEFF WAS THE BEST THORN EVER ONLY WISH HE WAS STILL ON THE SHOW

[@annieo6527]

*Romeo and Juliet, take two* I have mentioned the Shakespearean references in Thorne and Macy's storyline before, and how their dynamic tends to go back and forth between Romeo/Juliet and Othello/Desdemona (with Macy occasionally turning into Ophelia when she's at a low point in her trajectory). We are now clearly in a phase where the emphasis is on the parallels between Thorne and Macy and Romeo and Juliet, which is quite natural because that trope fits the _early_ stages of a relationship - it was highlighted when Thorne and Macy first fell in love in 1990, and now during their "new beginning" it comes back into focus (while Thorne's Othello-like mistrust and false accusations took center stage when their first marriage started disintegrating). This episode is almost entirely dedicated to making the Romeo/Juliet parallel as explicit as possible in order to make it the focal point of the Rotterdam concert. we have Don and Gordon literally referring to Thorne and Macy as "two star-crossed lovers", and Eric and Sally discussing the rivalry of their two -households alike in dignity- successful design houses, as well as recapping how Thorne and Macy suffered as a result of that rivalry and expressing wishes that it could be different (although we know it won't be, due to Sally's involvement in Dylan's trial). The "fateful romance" aspect is reinforced further by Ridge (of all people) commenting that Thorne and Macy can't get over each other and how Macy would do _anything_ for Thorne, just as we see her covering up her illness, and possibly risking her life, in order to go through with the concert. And meanwhile even the suggestion of a tragic end like Romeo and Juliet's is hinted at (although jokingly) by Thorne, as he talks about the two of them being inseparable to the point that if a bus hits Macy, it will hit him too. But of course we know that while Thorne is only joking about the two of them dying together, Macy is the one who worries that she may _actually_ die. And this is reflected in their final scene, as Thorne goes to sleep with a happy smile on his face while Macy sits next to him hiding her tears. But the Romeo and Juliet references are not the only hints that we are now in the middle of Thorne and Macy's "second act" - pretty much _every single plot point_ in their current storyline is a reimagined variation of something that happened in their "first act" (which ended in early 1994). Even Macy's throat tumor fits this pattern. The way it plays out clearly recalls her alcoholism storyline from 1993 just before she crashed the car and nearly got herself (and Kevin) killed - she has a serious health problem, but hides it from Thorne in order not to disappoint him and not to disrupt what she is hoping will be a reconciliation between them. Even the way she handles the inhaler - keeping it hidden in her purse and sneaking away to use it when nobody sees her - is similar to how she would secretly take a sip of alcohol from a bottle when she thought nobody was watching.

[@NewYorkNick0607]

Brilliant Annie! And Thorne and Macy's wedding will be interrupted when Thorne is accused of murder just as Romeo & Juliet's marriage is immediately threatened when Romeo kills Tybalt.

[@TriniT21]

Such a good read! You took me back to my days of literature class and writing essays about the books I loved. ❤ BTW. I have never ever seen the "star crossed lovers" theme between Ridge and Brooke that they keep trying to convince us is there. But Thorne and Macy def are the star crossed lovers of the soap, and have been so from the beginning.

[@annieo6527]

@@NewYorkNick0607 yes, you are right! I didn't think of how there was also a murder charge against Romeo as well at the end of Romeo and Juliet's story, and how that separated them and eventually led to that one final fatal miscommunication. In that light, what follows with Thorne and Macy could be seen as a "subverted Romeo and Juliet story" as there is the murder subplot, the separation, and also the setup for a potential major misunderstanding, but then Macy actually manages to _avert_ this and the story takes a completely different turn from there.

[@annieo6527]

@@TriniT21 good point about Ridge and Brooke - I think they don't at all fit the definition of "star-crossed lovers" because they are not being kept apart by outside forces but by their own deliberate choices. Ridge frequently _chooses_ to marry someone else, for example. Thorne and Macy, on the other hand, _want_ to be together, but are being kept apart by factors that they don't have the power to control (even though some of those factors actually exist _inside_ them, like Thorne's lack of trust or Macy's alcoholism), and often give the impression of being stuck in that "evil Super Mario game" someone (Nick, was it you?) mentioned a while ago.

[@susankent6051]

​​@@annieo6527very well written and I couldn't agree more, Annie😊👏

[@VjAdrasaVideos]

i love Sally confidense

[@karenjackson5989]

Ron Moss looked extra pretty in this episode 😂

[@filionsteve2133]

He rock all 90 s

[@paulagould465]

Absolutely love Sally😂

[@jackack1429]

This cannot be said enough. Darlene was everything. May her memory be a blessing to all who loved her.

[@Anastashya]

Poor Macy 😢

[@Anastashya]

Eric and Sally would have made an interesting couple 😂. Sally lightened up Eric.

[@CozysHouse]

Yes I was happy to see him smiling again 😊

[@tobydean7097]

Thorne and Macy were the best super couple!!!!! So much more than Bridge?!!!!! 💕💕💕

[@Salmiyaguy1]

Sally and Eric. The romance I wish would happen😂❤❤

[@MrCraigblaze]

A wool blanket..And they have sheep in Scotland !! 😂😂 The episiode sums up what the music industry is all about !!

[@laurastrobel718]

Fun episode... except that Macy is hiding the fact that she may have a cancerous tumor in her throat and powering through this event because money and the disappointment of others hinges on her performing 😒

[@leviaj1]

So great to have a (mainly) Thorne and Macy focused episode. The drunken interactions between Sally and Eric were fun, the affectionate interactions between Thorne and Macy were poignant and moving, and for once Ridge and Stephanie had to acknowledge Thorne's existence😂. It's a solemn reminder of what this show could have been had it positioned Thorne and Macy as its core duo, as opposed to Ridge and Brooke. A couple to genuinly root for, as well as some much needed warmth and humor. What a show that would have been.

[@annieo6527]

Yes, I enjoyed this episode too! I think the show would have benefited from balancing the Ridge/Brooke/Taylor part and the Thorne/Macy/Spectra part more evenly. The former often feels like it has redundant scenes, and the latter often feels like there are scenes _missing._ And I always preferred Macy's character over Brooke or Taylor - she has a "realness" to her that those characters don't. It would also have been nice for these two sides of the show to be more connected - at this point they actually feel almost like two separate shows (for example, Brooke and Macy have _never_ had a conversation).

[@leviaj1]

@@annieo6527 agreed. What was needed was a finer balancing act between the storylines, as well as more engagement between them. Unfortunately when Brooke and Macy do interact it's as rivals. It would have been nice to see their relationship move beyond that.

[@annieo6527]

@@leviaj1 though in a way I find it hard to imagine Brooke and Macy being anything _but_ rivals. Although the plot sometimes places them in similar positions, they are in many ways polar opposites in terms of personality. The first time they do interact it will be a friendly scene and _still_ there's this feeling that they are like oil and vinegar.

[@annieo6527]

I know everyone keeps mentioning how Sally is like Ursula, but did you see how they way she ate that olive was EXACTLY like when Ursula ate that poor terrified shrimp in the movie!

[@NewYorkNick0607]

While Ariel (Macy) tries to make the prince (Thorne) fall in love with her but she's lost her voice.

[@TriniT21]

​@@NewYorkNick0607Good one!

[@annieo6527]

@@NewYorkNick0607 haha, yes, Ariel is sacrificing her voice so she can get the prince!

[@annieo6527]

@@NewYorkNick0607 oh and by the way Nick, did you catch Sally's "locations don't count" comment? It's as if she read your post from yesterday about the function of this trip in Eric's storyline!

[@NewYorkNick0607]

@@annieo6527 Yes! And saying that he needs to have fun "without one his wives" present. 😉

[@kristinazubic9669]

Jeff’s Thorne at his most attractive. If only they’d let him grow the 5:00 shadow a LITTLE bit …Darlene and John, part 2!

[@MrCraigblaze]

And Stephanie did Absolutely NOTHING when Ridge " Pranked" Caroline in 1988. But is making sure Dylan stands trial for statutory rape ?? A real head scratcher !!

[@semoneg2826]

Very true

[@cindyanndegannes3504]

Yall fools always like to leave out the fact that Caroline herself said she knew it was ridge

[@blackblake3658]

Stephanie has always expected her family and friends to treat her enemies as their own. Eric always liked Brooke and never saw Sally as the tacky person Stephanie did.

[@kerrie6926]

Shiela and Eric 18:03 enjoying each others company on a plane going to their children’s concert together…so enjoyable! 🍾🥂❤️

[@blackblake3658]

Why does Macy feel like she has to risk her health for Thorne? He allowed the cops to jail her and made her share their home with another woman while she begged to get the marriage back on track.

[@MT-sw8rf]

Because she would not have been able to sing without him - the recording company offered a contract only if they sang together. If you remember he wasn't keen on it at the beginning

[@annieo6527]

Macy has always been written as loving Thorne to the point of self-destruction. She would die for him without a second thought. Even Sally admitted (at a later date) that if the daughter she idolized had a flaw, it was loving Thorne _too much._

[@jackack1429]

She wanted the moment, even if it turned out to be the one big concert in Rotterdam. (Weird location if you ask me, but whatever). She almost felt that this would be a grand finale (in her mind).

[@yasmminkalpesi4605]

Thank you. ❤❤❤

[@acasburn1460]

I don’t know what it is but why do I think they are flying in a real plane 😝🤪

[@annieo6527]

I think it's the background noise and the bright lighting resembling sunlight.

[@NewYorkNick0607]

*Esi* & *Annie* another queer undertone at 0:59 😉

[@annieo6527]

😂Sally is flirting with the whole airplane at this point! If she keeps this up, by the time they land in Holland, they will _be_ a "club near the airport"!

[@parker341]

😂😂

[@ajax34]

Sally's always been a queer character. She's practically a d ra g queen! 🏳‍🌈

[@tobydean7097]

A pea sized tumor is causing this much chaos??? Usually it wouldn’t even be an issue yet?

[@annlavine3576]

Stephanie brought on the charges, if she dosnt like the publicity she should have considered that

[@MrCraigblaze]

Just to bad Eric kisses Taylor in 1995 !! Delia on Ryan's hope owned stock in tea !! 😂😂 Thanks for the upload!!

[@hraslan]

😂what is worse Taylor hid it for years and no one knew

[@MrCraigblaze]

​@@hraslanMe too !! After I burnt my lips off !! 😂😂

[@susankent6051]

​​@@MrCraigblazeyeah and still saint Brooke did way worse than Taylor😂🙈

[@kristinazubic9669]

Delia Ryan played by the great Ilene Kristen? 😊 General Hospital brought Delia on as Ava’s mother (though she was more like Roxy Balsom than she was like herself back on Ryan’s Hope)

[@MrCraigblaze]

​​​@@susankent6051Yes she did !! I am rewatching the 1988 Ridge and Caroline "stupid prank" Storyline !!

[@VjAdrasaVideos]

poor macy

[@MT-sw8rf]

Ahaha, is Sally hitting on Eric? Is something between them going to happen in Rotterdam?

[@rafaelauger8865]

OMG, pleaze, I'm gonna p u k e !!!

[@MT-sw8rf]

@@rafaelauger8865 i would love it - Stephanie will wanna kill herself if it happened 🤣🤣🤣

[@ryangoodwinsmoviecorner6217]

This episode features Tamera Olson as Samantha Starr as a special guest

[@sbookey]

In the real world, it is very possible a court reporter would see that an intern at Forrester Creations is being accused of statuatory rape, and it would be investigated, even if Jessica's name was out of it.

[@jennygustave2074]

Talk? I thought Macy and Thorne were actually trying to have a baby 👶

[@marije25]

Yes, when they married again they did try to have a baby. Just before Jeff was recast as Thorne by Windsor. Unfortunately that didn’t happen😞. And in the past after they first got married, there was this episode when Macy was sick and Thorne was taking care of her. Darla and Sally showed up, and they asked Macy her symptoms. Darla saying’i think she is pregnant’! And Macy saying she isn’t. Explaining she did a home pregnancy test and it came back negative. Such a shame!

[@jennygustave2074]

@marije25 thank you so much 💓

[@rafaelauger8865]

Where is Prince Omar?!?!?

[@ninaintranova9764]

maybe stuck on the floor with backache lol

[@rafaelauger8865]

@@ninaintranova9764 That's what you get for being the absolute gentleman! ^_^

[@ninaintranova9764]

@@rafaelauger8865 lol 😂

[@annieo6527]

Sleeping in the bathtub?