Bold and the Beautiful - 2003 (S16 E144) FULL EPISODE 4030

[@jonfoerster]

This is supposed to be a triumphant moment for Brooke but KKL's voice and muppet acting undermines even that for the character.

[@annieo6527]

This scene between Brooke and Stephanie is probably the whole reason why the Massimo retcon was done in the first place - to dethrone Stephanie and make her and Brooke look like they are two of a kind. But this completely disrupts the whole premise of the show, which is that Stephanie and Brooke represent completely opposite vaIues systems. If they are essentially the same, the entire "for ce field" between them disappears. It is done only to eIevate Brooke's status at Stephanie's expense, but with no consideration for the dynamic of the show as a whole. Note how _every wife_ whose marriage Brooke has ever disrupted is being destroyed in this season, in order to redeem Brooke and make her the main femaIe romantic Iead. First it was Taylor, who simply died. Then it was Bridget, who the writers had fall in love with her brother (who is also her mother's fiancé). Now it is Stephanie, who has kept the paternity of her firstborn a secret. That leaves only Macy, who will emerge as Brooke's new nemesis but then immediately get kiIIed off so as not to upstage Brooke.

[@NewYorkNick0607]

Exactly. And in fact it doesn't just make Stephanie & Brooke the same; in this episode it makes Stephanie look _worse_ by making her out to be a hypocrite ("I never pretended to be a paragon of virtue."). This is just ruinous for the show. The entire premise of the series is the clash of values and worldviews between Stephanie and Brooke, between a kind of moral traditionalism and a modern individualism.

[@babs4848]

Brooke s speech is 👊 right in my stomach, just like Ridge's speech to Taylor when she came back. It's hard to watch.

[@sharonstewart4882]

@@NewYorkNick0607 👏👏👏

[@TriniT21]

@@NewYorkNick0607 there's no more of the show's original themes. Even the "war" between the upscale Forresters and the "not so upscale" Spectras doesn't have the same pizzazz. Maybe it's bc everybody is rich? Anyhoo... Why is Steph even lowering herself to explain anything to that idiot Brooke? 8:39 and then there's Brooke with her annoying sing song. But she's right tho.. Steph's sons wanted the women who were more like their mother... Hence Ridge picking Caroline and Taylor over Brooke...

[@annieo6527]

@@NewYorkNick0607 and it doesn't even add up with the show's _recent_ history. Didn't Stephanie help Brooke keep Hope's paternity secret only a few months ago? And wasn't Brooke all for it?

[@Wyldee2025]

Oh looky the doggy has a bone & she's gonna act like shes a big dog now😂 B plZ😂 Like this info makes her any less than anything Stephanie ever called her. 😂

[@TriniT21]

Right. Brooke's still a s lut 😂

[@jonfoerster]

@@TriniT21 Dorothy Zbornak: "Oh come on. She's not a s lot. She is THE s lot."

[@Wyldee2025]

@@TriniT21 😂

[@Esi-741]

@@jonfoerster 😂😂

[@annieo6527]

_"Eric would have married my mother. She would have been a Forrester. And my brothers and my sisters and I, we would have grown up in a nice, loving, warm family home with every advantage."_ Brooke doesn't seem to realize that she and her siblings _would not even exist_ if Eric had married Beth. And Eric and Beths potential children would not have had "every advantage" anyway, because Forrester Creations would not exist without Stephanie.

[@ahy4234]

Brooke has always created her own world. Eric would never have married Beth because she had no money. But you can see from her delusions how little self-esteem she actually has.

[@annlavine3576]

Eric could have done it with Beth and brook is wrong/ She should be blaming Stephanie for driving her dad away

[@annlavine3576]

@@ahy4234 He would have married Beth if Stephanie did not turn up pregnant

[@lil_jon411]

@@annlavine3576”driving her dad away” ? If it wasn’t for Steph they STILL would have thought Stephen was deceased. If it wasn’t for Steph, he wouldn’t even have a job. You also forget Stephen CHOSE to leave town all on his own.

[@TriniT21]

@AnnieO. I literally said "What is this fantasy family that Brooke is talking about?" And then Steph said it as well.. Eric and Beth could have gotten married, sure. They might have had Brooke.. Sure. But for sure they would not have been living in Beverly hills bc what they for sure would NOT have had, was Steph's money and connections to make Forrester Creations. Eric would have just been just another struggling designer... He might have been working for Sally lol. Brooke has always lived in LA LA land, but this is a ridiculous stretch, even for her.

[@TriniT21]

Brooke and her whole family have always felt entitled. Funny thing is, if Beth had married Eric and made some spawn like Brooke and her sisters, they'd be Forresters, but they would still be poor nobodies. And Steph who was rich would prob be married to another wealthy man (or help make some man grow a multi million dollar business), and have a handsome son in the newspaper that Brooke would slobber all over... and then she'd feel entitled to have the last name of that family instead.

[@annieo6527]

I still can't get over how Brooke doesn't realize that she wouldn't even exist if Beth hadn't married Stephen Logan instead of Eric. So Stephanie's pregnancy and marriage to Eric was _necessary in order for Brooke to be born._ And yet Brooke thinks it's a terrible thing.

[@TriniT21]

@annieo6527 right. I suppose if she wasn't born she'd somehow blame Steph for that too bc she'll blame Steph for anything and everything...

[@Esi-741]

@@annieo6527 Not the first time Brooke has said such nonsense regarding Beth and Eric.

[@babs4848]

How can someone take seriously Brooke while she is speaking nonsense ? This woman is so stu pid: in her mind Stephanie stole Eric and so he couldn't be her father😂 Just another thing: Brooke here is talking about money and status saying she could have had a beautiful life as Eric daughter ( something that she fixed becoming Eric's wife stab bing her own mother) The point is also Eric had his chance to be a famous designer only thanks to Stephanie's money .. Someone has to rearrange Brooke's thoughts.

[@annieo6527]

Brooke the scientist not realizing that half her DNA comes from Stephen Logan... 😂

[@MariaPerez-sb1xp]

So much for Taylor and Stephanie calling Brooke a tramp, while they weren't exactly virgin Mary either.

[@lil_jon411]

So Brooke’s suddenly not a tramp just because Steph didn’t tell Eric about ridge yet? Now all of a sudden everything Brooke’s done is no big deal huh? Smh

[@TriniT21]

Doesn't diminish Brooke's trampiness tho.. Even Brooke proudly admits she was never a paragon of virtue. So let's not try to make her look better than she really is.

[@orifeldman3213]

Do you really find it similar??

[@Viktor21771]

Keep being delusional, HOgan fan

[@bees2024bees]

7:22 look at Massimo acting all sheepish and Ridge about to have a fit! 😂

[@-Lily7415]

Brooke thinks she and her siblings would have been Eric’s children instead of Stephens. She’s delusional 😂

[@sparticuzj19]

She wouldn’t have been born 😂

[@TriniT21]

@@sparticuzj19 exactly this 😂 Her argument makes zero sense at all.

[@bettyhopson]

Yes, who wrote that crazy dialogue? What Brooke was saying made no sense…she has Stephen to thank for her existence???😮

[@lil_jon411]

“You committed the same crime as me” uh Brooke, Steph wasn’t married to one while she slept with the other, and at least they weren’t father and son when she had to question the child’s paternity. They’re trying so hard to bring Steph down to Brooke’s level and it’s not working or believable. The whole problem of solving Bridget’s paternity wouldn’t have been an issue if she wasn’t cheating with her stepson, or better yet wouldn’t have rebounded to ridges father after breaking up with him. Steph has yet to sleep her way through a family like Brooke has, and she’s never gone after married men.

[@annieo6527]

It's like Bell wants us to think that because Stephanie did _one_ thing that resembles something that Brooke did (Bridget's paternity), they are alike. We are not supposed to remember all the _other_ things that Brooke did that were actually _worse._

[@TriniT21]

@@annieo6527 exactly. Nothing about these situations is comparable. Maybe if the writers weren't so lazy with the writing, they could have made this story work? But right now everything comes across as such a stretch of imagination to try to lower Steph to Brooke's level.

[@PaulBonds-k2r]

Lorenzo "I wont be around to see it". He said Thorne was gone hurt her again

[@Esi-741]

Kkl is the weakest actress on this show. And the u & l i e s t on Daytime.

[@34Jackson]

Thank you.

[@Megatune867]

So why are you watching?

[@Esi-741]

@@Megatune867 So I can make fun of her and laugh at stans like y ou

[@detroitsmoneymakingdiva4398]

Brooke you and your sisters wouldn’t have been born….

[@34Jackson]

Brooke can't judge Stephanie. S h e' s still the biggest u&liest 5 1 u t on the show.

[@kayschultz4113]

This is why the Logans feel so entitled to the Forrester lifestyle; Eric would have married Beth if not for Stephanie. Brooke is no stephanie; Somehow Brooke makes it about herself

[@annieo6527]

It's not the Forrester lifestyle though. It's the _Douglas_ lifestyle. Eric wouldn't have it either if he hadn't married Stephanie.

[@brendanbressler9807]

Brooke trying to act like a victim? Ha! Trying to justify her and her mother's actions of being HOmewreckers.

[@donnaharris2192]

where is brooke's concern for ridge? why isn't she running to see how he is doing the man she loves supposedly whose world has been rocked? nope she's made even this all about her the narcissistic ho bag.

[@TriniT21]

She always makes every situation about herself.

[@caldervitriolic2128]

I feel so bad for Darla and Macy, and Brooke's right, Stephanie's spent her life pretending she's a paragon of truth while being the biggest liar and now she needs to fess up

[@ahy4234]

Brooke just uses the chance to restore her abysmal reputation with Stephanie's old story. Brooke is narcissistic enough to never admit her own mistakes and learn from them. Just because of this, now is the chance to draw everyone's attention to Stephanie's mistakes. But Brooke's ruthless actions in the past, with which she destroyed numerous relationships and became pregnant by her own daughter's husband, cannot be surpassed in terms of hypocrisy and mendacity.

[@TriniT21]

Pls stop trying to rewrite the history of the show. We have enough with the writers doing it. They don't need help to stretch the truth and make up stories so that Brooke can feel equal to Steph.

[@nancytautuaa8996]

Oh please Brooke didn't even listen to what Massimo told her it wasn't an affair and Stephanie didn't know Ridge wasn't Erics son till a few months ago when he was hurt by Deacon

[@nancytautuaa8996]

Hhhhh Brooke is sick trying to manipulate what Massimo told her she is delusional

[@bees2024bees]

8:00 ooh Queen Stephanie, she has a point there... parallels for sure! 🤭 8:42 🎶🎵 Brooke is cracking me up today, what is this mock-singing😅

[@annieo6527]

And she doesn't even know the melody to the song she is supposedly quoting.

[@vicg7367]

This was such a good episode. It was good to hear a lot of the back history as well as Brooke come out of her shell 2.0!! …although I don’t want her with Ridge and I feel bad for Stephanie

[@nancytautuaa8996]

Now Brooke is the hypocrite she wants to make Stephanie had an affair hhh didn't she hear Massimo telling her it wasn't an affair hhhhh

[@annieo6527]

Schae Harrison rarely gets a chance to do dramatic scenes, but when she does, she really delivers. She was very good in this episode, showing that she is just as effective in serious scenes as she is doing comedy. And even WH was better than usual, portraying the awkwardness of Thorne's situation really well, with Thorne wanting to be emotionally supportive while at the same time absolutely not wanting Darla to have the baby.

[@The1987Kid]

Ridge has the same temper as Massimo and Stephanie, he doesn’t act or behave like Eric, Ridge would rather fight than talk lol 😂

[@annieo6527]

It's ironic, but this is probably the first time WH's Thorne and Macy are _good_ together. They actually have chemistry, Thorne really is completely devoted to her, and they both seem happy and in love. And in just a few weeks it will end completely, abruptly, and permanently, just like that.

[@mirainoivuyo984]

Ohhhh, they bring up Bridget's paternity storyline without mentioning Ridge... really???

[@PaulBonds-k2r]

Where's Macy's father?

[@annieo6527]

Hiding somewhere in Europe.

[@hopeaiden6639]

Brooke is right! Stephanie did trap Eric ,there’s no way she didn’t think it was a possibility that massimo was ridges father the whole time

[@Esi-741]

@@hopeaiden6639 Stephanie was a 17 year old girl when she got pregnant.

[@andream5998]

Yes, Brooke you pretended to be a lot of things that you actually never ever have been and never will be like a bargon of virtue, honest, truthful, kind, loving, caring, a victim, good girl, decent, and having morals, values, ethics.