Bold and the Beautiful - 2000 (S13 E253) FULL EPISODE 3387

[@NewYorkNick0607]

Thorne's options are go with his sister's mother or go with his wife's sister who was also dating his brother. 🥴

[@sharonstewart4882]

This is show is ridiculous! Why are we even watching? 😂

[@brendanbressler9807]

This is worse than Jerry Springer.

[@teligon]

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! That is so concise and precise

[@annieo6527]

His sister's mother _who was also married to his brother..._ He should just choose "none of the above" and get drunk.

[@babs4848]

The writers narrowed their options even when they had other characters in the show. They should have used Giovanni in a triangle with Rick and Kimberly. Or CJ and Bridget in a triangle with Amber... The last three actors should have stolen the scene to the older triangle that for me had been resolved with the twins. But not for marriages or parenting stuff. They were so young

[@acasburn1460]

After Stephanie gave CJ a lecture about the safety hazards of his apartment I wanted the door handle to fall of when he opened the door and asked her to leave 😜😝

[@TriniT21]

That would have clinched it 😂

[@NewYorkNick0607]

*Kimberly:* "Do it now Thorne. Give it to me. I'm ready." *Rick:* "How come all I got was blue ba 11s?!"

[@kchellkat1847]

😂😂😂

[@teligon]

Ask your mother, Rick. She hasn't yet completely done all Forrester men, brothers alike, of which you are one.

[@Scobster51]

😅😅😅😅

[@ThomasandHopefan]

“Beautiful intelligent woman that could fulfill you in so many ways” Kimberly basically said that certainly isn’t Brooke lol

[@lil_jon411]

“My children mean more to me than anything!…unless I want to marry your brother and you don’t approve…or if I want to have an affair with your husband”

[@TriniT21]

Brooke tells Bridgit this holiday is about "you and me".. What she really means is.. "these next few days are gonna be about ME getting you to go along with what I want"

[@annieo6527]

She only said "you and your brother mean more to me than anything". She didn't specify _which brother..._

[@scor66]

I can’t praise Mick Cain’s acting enough! The scenes with SF are being played brilliantly! By far the best younger actor on there!❤👏🏻

[@TriniT21]

Indeed

[@galoutlaw8089]

Truly. I wish the writing did him justice.

[@angelasimmons-smith7689]

He really is fantastic. Always has been one of my favorites since these episodes originally aired. Easy on the eyes too. Never did get to meet him but met Schae and she’s a lovely person. He definitely holds his own in scenes with anyone but especially works well with Susan. Both amazing to watch. ❤️

[@brendanbressler9807]

I do think Kimberly was in the wrong but what Brooke did was far worse. Kimberly was Brooke's karma.

[@mimibarely8440]

Stephanie to C.J.: “Let me reintroduce myself……….” 😂😂

[@NewYorkNick0607]

"Oh I'm sorry. You must think I'm Brooke who you can just be rude to. Let me correct that."

[@annieo6527]

@@NewYorkNick0607 I just can't get over how funny it is that CJ is trying to throw out Stephanie while the baby has stoIen her keys! 😂

[@babs4848]

​@@annieo6527🤣

[@NewYorkNick0607]

@@annieo6527 😂😂 The baby's like, "Here _I_ can drive the plot too."

[@FayeIL]

@@NewYorkNick0607”Probably better than Brad Bell.”

[@imianmckellan]

I don't even understand why they tried to act like CJ grew up like that. That apartment was ridiculous.

[@Phillybags]

And Becky’s Forrester salary paid for that apartment

[@lil_jon411]

And they even had Cj be completely dismissive of her valid concerns in order to justify the forresters taking the baby so CJ looks like the bad guy

[@annieo6527]

Exactly. And they thought Becky was such a great mother - why didn't _she_ take care of these issues with the apartment? Unless we are suppose to believe the apartment spontaneously fell apart when Becky died.

[@babs4848]

​@@annieo6527that's the way, you all often say about forcing the viewers to take the Forresters side in this storyline like they are forcing us to root for Thorne and Brooke... So poorly and superficial writing . But I guess even back they had the opposite effect. I personally gave up thinking there would be a winner against Brooke or against the Forresters and I lost interest.

[@annieo6527]

@@babs4848 yes - that's exactly what it feels like. The show wants us _not_ to side with CJ so they create this scenario out of the blue where this apartment is suddenly so dangerous the child can't stay there even one more day, when _one episode ago_ that wasn't an issue (Sally was there and she saw nothing wrong).

[@z-5reader939]

The only diversity in this cast is the Mexican help. ( unless we count Brooke’s Guatemalan roots 😝) Kimberely comes closest with her Hawaiian tropic tan.

[@TriniT21]

Since season 1, the only real diversity has been the help (or the homeless ppl)

[@annieo6527]

@@Esi-741 Keith was such a great character. Too bad they wrote him off the show.

[@galoutlaw8089]

😂

[@ksbaxter]

C.J. doesn't know who Stephanie Forrester really is

[@MichelleCootee]

Your so right about that

[@tammyfulp7548]

CJ is so disrespectful. He is not ready to raise a child, he is acting like a child himself.

[@annieo6527]

@@tammyfulp7548 CJ is being _treated_ disrespectfully. He is only responding in kind.

[@galoutlaw8089]

True. I like CJ and was earlier disappointed in the way Stephanie was acting. But everything she feels and says makes a lot of sense. CJ is really acting like a kid. If he was wise he would have asked Sally for help and moved into a safer place.

[@FayeIL]

Mick Cain really is a great actor. His scenes with Susan Flannery are so good and full of zest. One really feels they’re watching two equally matched actors. That being said, the story continues to irk me in its laziness. All of the sudden this previously run-down but safe apartment is a Dickensian cesspit of danger. Equally abruptly, the previously level-headed CJ is shown as a stubborn hothead who ignores valid threats to his baby’s safety. And the man who has a supportive mother and is perfectly willing to open her very comfortable home to them insists on staying in the unsafe dump. None of it makes sense, and it really is the height of laziness for the writers not to find any other way to push the inevitable Amber-Rick reunion. On the positive side, I’m enjoying that Rick couldn’t get to second base with Kimberly, but Kimberly is literally begging Thorne to do her 😂. I also laughed at Brooke opening her wallet to look at a pic of Thorne. Hey, how thick do we think *that* wallet is, if there’s a sleeve for every ex?

[@TriniT21]

Lazy writing indeed, for a very good actor. Additionally, CJ owns a business and Amber is still a waitress at Cafe Russe.. Make it make sense.

[@DonaldTaft]

Very bad writing that demonstrates they struggled to come up with a reasonable way for Steph to come out again as the “good guy” in this situation. The sudden poor condition of the apartment aside, can someone remind me why Steph has been so gung-ho to “get” little Eric back up to this point? Is it trying to appease Eric as her husband because his son, Rick, is determined to have the baby again?

[@TriniT21]

@@DonaldTaft very bad writing that shows they struggled to develop conflict in the first place.

[@FayeIL]

@@DonaldTaftIf that was the intent, they failed. Stephanie will always be my OG B&B love, but she comes off as overbearing and way out of line here. Moreover, one is left wondering why she’s even involved in this storyline, much less driving it. It makes even less sense when you consider that during her last conversation with Ridge re the Morgan mess, she was all “Tell Taylor, don’t tell Taylor, just do something already” and then basically peaced out of that whole situation. Now don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t want to be within 1000 miles of that mess either 😂, but arguably Stephanie has a much greater stake in her son’s marriage and its impact on her actual grandchildren. Yet she was pulled out of that storyline to drive the Amber/Rick/CJ mess. Strange.

[@mara4450]

How much time has passed since Becky's death? The Forresters have been over at that apartment while Becky was still alive and none of them then wondered if the apartment is safe. Suddenly it has so much worsened?

[@TriniT21]

It would really be poetic justice if Thorne turned into a alcoholic bc of Brooke.....

[@annieo6527]

It would be just what he deserves. 😂 Then Macy could be _his_ sponsor.

[@NewYorkNick0607]

This being Thorne he'd probably go to AA and end up marrying Roberta.

[@annieo6527]

@@NewYorkNick0607 ah but Roberta is already married. He should just get a dog. (A cat would simply look at him scornfully then run away from him.)

[@NewYorkNick0607]

@@annieo6527 As a proud owner of now a cat _and_ a dog, I don't know which one to be more offended on behalf of. 😄

[@annieo6527]

@@NewYorkNick0607 my apologies to dogs, cats, dog owners, and cat owners everywhere. As long as you are not the proud owner of a Thorne, you're all good. 😂

[@milivanilli1197]

Such a well-behaved baby 🥰

[@TriniT21]

I really like that Steph isn't just trying to bulldoze her way, even though she has the power to do it.. She's actually giving CJ a reasonable request to baby proof the place. I get why he's upset with Steph coming and telling him these things, but don't s h oot the messenger. Bc if Sally told him the same, to get the place properly fixed to accommodate a baby safely, he prob wouldn't have had the same reaction

[@teligon]

I think CJ is reeling over Macy's death. Any and every Forrester is to blame, and now they're bulldozing their way into his personal space to take away whatever little he has remaining. He is in crisis.

[@annieo6527]

Stephanie was making a valid point about the apartment (which was a ridicuIously contrived plot device by the way, because Stephanie came to visit when Becky lived there and never noticed any of this, and now suddenly the place is falling apart?). And you are right, if it had been Sally pointing out these things CJ would have listened. I had to laugh at CJ trying to throw Stephanie out, while Little Eric still had Stephanie's keys! 😂 And yes @Teligon, I agree that CJ is still in crisis because of Macy's death (so soon after Becky's death), and this makes him extra sensitive to how the Forresters treat him.

[@TriniT21]

@@annieo6527 OK it was her keys! Lol. I thought so, and said, but she can't leave anyway bc the baby has her car/house keys lol. I thought CJ was about to bring them back lol. And yes, since this stupidly, lazily written story began, I kept saying that they all were coming to the apt when Becky was alive and nobody had an issue as to the apt itself or its location. Now it's suddenly unsafe? I mean, it is unsafe, but it's all quite sudden and exaggerated. And it's notably quite clean too. I have not seen one rodent in there. Quite frankly Steph lived in a worse scenario when she had amnesia and was homeless. And I still don't get why CJ doesn't just move everybody into Sally's place, or, just get another apt. Doesn't have to be in BHills.. I'm sure there are decent neighbourhoods where average working ppl live. He's not poor!!!

[@TriniT21]

@@teligon and that makes 100% sense and should have been the basis for the conflict between CJ and Rick and who will be the rightful "father" of the baby (til the actual father shows up and ends that argument once and for all). Bc no one is questioning Amber as the "mother".. It's more, who is she going to parent this child with, and where. The current storyline as written isn't tapping into the actual conflict as you've described.

[@annieo6527]

​@@TriniT21and it's really funny how nobody is questioning Amber as the mother, since she is the one who has been making all the mistakes. In fact CJ is a better parent at this point than either Rick or Amber. If poor Macy had known how things would develop for Kimberly and CJ, she would have left Kimberly the Insomnia and CJ the beach house. 😂

[@JanetWashington-ph6dz]

When Brooke said to Bridget Nothing comes before You and your brother l was like Which One

[@annieo6527]

LOL, I thought the same thing!

[@scor66]

😂😂😂

[@leviaj1]

I doubt she was thinking of Rick in that moment😂.

[@TriniT21]

She meant Ridge, guys 😂😂

[@HunterWrangler]

Love the look Stephanie gives Little Eric at 4:59. I think that was as much for the real child as for the scene :-)

[@-Lily7415]

CJ owns insomnia And the Spectras have money So why are they saying little Eric is slumming it ??

[@annieo6527]

Yes, they could easily take Little Eric and move him into Sally's apartment.

[@TriniT21]

We have all been trying to figure this out 😐

[@acasburn1460]

Would have been good for Macy to return to the show during the end scene between Kimberly and Thorne 😜

[@MichelleCootee]

Thank you so much for this really great episode and I hope that everyone is having a great day too

[@annieo6527]

Brooke to Bridget: "Nothing comes before you and _your brother."_ Which brother would that be?

[@TriniT21]

Ridge

[@orifeldman3213]

The drug thing didn’t make any sense, and now the all thing with the apartment doesn’t make sense either.. the writers really forced the script into making CJ an unqualified parent just because the plot required

[@DonnaMariaBonseigneur]

Liked the way Little Eric looked @ Stephanie when she couldn’t close the window & said this could be Good Bye baby 😮. The baby gave Stephanie a look like: Yeah I agree 😮

[@EmkaySA13]

Well, what do you know. No announcement tomorrow for Thorne and Brooke.

[@brandlyscottconner9824]

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[@beatrizriveramoreno193]

New epis are ready

[@jgoldfarb3]

@@beatrizriveramoreno193 yes I see them on my TV, 👍

[@leviaj1]

My sense is that Kimberly falling for Thorne was not meant to be seen (or written) as her trying to live her sister's life. We're meant to believe that Kimberly's feelings for Thorne are not at all connected to Macy. If that is the case, what is it that Kimberly finds so appealing about Thorne? He's a thirtysomething, unemployed beach bum who spends most of his days thinking about sleeping with his stepmother. Why would a 19 year-old girl find that attractive?

[@annieo6527]

I am thinking it's not that she _consciously_ tries to live Macy's life. It's just that by being close to Thorne, she feels close to Macy. And by doing things that Macy used to do, and being where Macy used to be, she feels close to Macy.

[@leviaj1]

@@annieo6527 I agree. The question is was Brad 🔔 writing the storyline with that in mind?

[@annieo6527]

@@leviaj1 maybe Brad didn't think about it too deeply. He just wanted Kimberly to be an obstacle for his preferred "romance".

[@leviaj1]

​@@annieo6527that's what I think. Macy's sister would be the most scandalous obstacle to Brooke and Thorne's "true love". She's more a plot device than a character here. That's why he is able to ignore how disturbing it is that he's pairing a teenage girl with a man double her age.

[@beatrizriveramoreno193]

Kim! How she manipulated hahaha i love her

[@soapoperajest]

CJ is so stubborn and has no control over his emotions. If he cares about little Eric as much as he says, he should’ve been mature enough to actually hear Stephanie out for the child’s safety. I feel bad that he’s experienced so much loss, but I’m glad Steph is laying down the law with him

[@danielkwamedanso-owusu3505]

Stephine was making some good points

[@brandlyscottconner9824]

595 Episodes Until Bold & Beautiful Season 15

[@beatrizriveramoreno193]

Season 14 has 545 epis?? Hope not, that's too much

[@juliaschmidt6511]

Thorne has always been drinking when things didn't go as he wanted them to go.

[@kareempyles6974]

I lovvvveee and miss Stephanie reminded people who she is!!!!

[@isabellamelissa4658]

where is episode 2120 and season 8 ???????????????????????????????????????

[@BriannaKiser-ig7jj]

Leave it to the writing though to give cj a place like this while any other character doesn’t get an apartment this ridiculous

[@babs4848]

CJ, my goodness, change the apartment!!!

[@annieo6527]

Yeah. Don't bother with the renovations. Just _move out._ He can afford something better. (We later find out there are rooms above the Insomnia, but I guess those weren't invented yet.)

[@TriniT21]

He can certainly afford to move to a nicer apt. All this strife is so unnecessary

[@leviaj1]

Poor childproofing in an apartment might be a red flag, but it's hardly a valid reason to take a way a child away from their parent. Also why is CJ's parenting being scrutinized, and not Amber's?

[@annieo6527]

Exactly this! It is _Amber's_ apartment, not CJ's. Childproofing it is her responsibility. Not having parties with random strangers was her responsibiIity. Getting a lawyer was her responsibiIity. CJ has been doing a great job as that child's parent. Amber - not so much. Rick - not at all (because that's what Helen is for).

[@leviaj1]

​@@annieo6527the Forresters love taking credit for the parenting skills they don't have. If it wasn't for Maria and Helen, there would barely be any parenting happening at all.

[@TriniT21]

Agree with what you say @leviaj1 Btw..Just as an aside... Isn't that a RENTED apt? Should not the landlord been taking care of fixing broken windows and faulty sockets etc? They should be enlisting Steph to help take that slum lord to court. Or.. They could just move to another, more decent apt. CJ had money enough for fancy earrings for Becky. Surely he can afford a better apt for his family 😕 Just creating strife for no actual good reason

[@annieo6527]

@@TriniT21 and in later seasons, they have CJ living above the Insomnia. And Bridget too. But the plot didn't require those rooms to exist yet.

[@beatrizriveramoreno193]

In the private flight 😂😂😂

[@annlavine3576]

Go Kimberly take the drink away

[@MacKenzieTS13]

Please Season 14

[@VjAdrasaVideos]

CJ.....thinks he can do anything and win everyone even the law but he forgot Stephanie

[@annlavine3576]

the sitter made a big mistake

[@Angelika....]

Cj is Sallys son, they can move into a better appartment and neighbourhood. Kimberly sits there in the beach house using it to stalk thorne like a freak. And CJ why doesnt Sally care more about CJ???

[@annieo6527]

I just can't with Eric judging CJ's parenting skills. When was the last time Eric did some actual parenting? (Besides, CJ has done _nothing wrong_ as a parent. All the mistakes so far have been Amber's, whose right to be the baby's mother nobody questions.)

[@xoluvstarrxo]

Seems like your reeeeeaaaddddyyyy lmao

[@kayschultz4113]

Kimberly reminds me of Hope. Brooke sure did a lot of damage to her kids and sister Maybe, they couldn't afford to paint the apartment

[@annieo6527]

Oh, so _now_ that apartment is suddenly a death tr ap? How come Stephanie didn't notice that when she was there while Becky was alive? Such a contrived plot device to justify what the Forresters are doing.

[@annlavine3576]

Stephanie has the right to take the baby Since when does she care about having the right?

[@DevikaK100]

Brooke wearing her "mother" hat seems weird and awkward, at least this juncture.

[@mdw6275]

@8:22 MISS LOGAN WANTS TO ACT. SHE'S ON HER KNEES BC THAT'S ALL SHE CAN DO.

[@milivanilli1197]

Lmao 😂

[@annlavine3576]

in this case Stephanie is right

[@Silvio67]

CJ is being an idiot

[@annieo6527]

No, he isn't. He is just reacting to being told what to do by someone who doesn't have the right to tell him what to do. He wouldn't have reacted this was if Sally had told him the same thing.