"I've seen happier faces on pallbearers at funerals" The eternal legendary late Darlene Conley!!!!!! May her memory be a blessing ❤❤❤
@Angelika.... Жыл бұрын
So true! What a great actress. RiP Miss Darlene Conley. You gave us so much bright moments ! Decades after the premieres git on air, we still love you❤
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
Darlene Conley was a _legend!_ Even after all these years, there is a Sally-shaped hole in the fabric of the show.
@reachthestars-du8kw Жыл бұрын
Susan and Darlene know how to draw audiences in! Wonderful actresses.
@francoisekoko6068 Жыл бұрын
"Stéphanie Stéphanie are you receiving ?"😂😂😂 The peak of the day
@jonfoerster Жыл бұрын
Sally's interactions with Maria remind me of Karen and Rosario on _Will & Grace._ 😂
@sharonstewart4882 Жыл бұрын
😂😂 That's so true!
@Esi-741 Жыл бұрын
They were the best part of the show! 😂
@sharonstewart4882 Жыл бұрын
@@Esi-741 Will & Grace was one of my favorite sitcoms. Did you guys watch it in real time? Remember halfway through the first season when everyone realized Karen and Jack were better than the leads? 😄
@Esi-741 Жыл бұрын
@@sharonstewart4882 LOL I have a friend who is a lot like Jack. I didn't watch the show in real time. Karen is my favorite.
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
The highlights of the episode: 1. Sally vs Maria 😂 2. Sally in Steph's entryway : Stephanie! STEPHANIE! ARE YOU RECEIVING?? 😂😂😂
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
I was just about to write the same thing! It's always a joy to see Sally and Stephanie (and Maria!) together.
@NewYorkNick0607 Жыл бұрын
To Maria: "Relax chica or you'll shake your bananas." 🤣
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
@@NewYorkNick0607Maria gets hers in too *sees Sally* "Dios Mio🙄" 😂
@francoisekoko6068 Жыл бұрын
After that watching the rest of the episode was pointless ... Sally totally stole the show
@NewYorkNick0607 Жыл бұрын
There’s a Wheel of Fortune clip where the contestants can’t solve the puzzle, *“Feather in Your Cap”* and go round and round guessing “Feather in your _hat,_ feather in your _lap,_ feather in your _map_ …” That’s what it’s like watching Thorne, Dylan and Jessica in this scene
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
Yes!! I know the clip you mean 😂😂😂 Yet another Thorne scene brought to us by the letter "I"
@jonfoerster Жыл бұрын
I've seen that vi r al Wheel of Fortune clip! 😂😂
@sharonstewart4882 Жыл бұрын
I just looked it up! Lord Hammercy 🤣🤣🤣
@NewYorkNick0607 Жыл бұрын
The whole scene is so tedious! Jessica being slow to realize Thorne's point about the IRV initials (even though she's supposed to be intelligent). Jessica and Dylan both indicting Ivana but then backtracking on accusing her for no real reason. 🥴
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
@@NewYorkNick0607now all we need is James joining the team as a profiler and we're ready to launch the much anticipated mystery spinoff of B&B. Each episode will last six hours because that's how long it'll take this gang to figure out whodunit. There'll also be an abbreviated five minute version of every episode where Stephanie just sits in her living room and figures everything out (but nobody believes her).
@NewYorkNick0607 Жыл бұрын
Sally gets the pre-wedding truce from Stephanie that Beth couldn’t get. 🙃
@sharonstewart4882 Жыл бұрын
😂😂 Stephanie went on and on about how great Taylor was in front of Beth just like Ridge does to Brooke. 🤭🤭
@parker341 Жыл бұрын
Good call! That just tells you everything. Stephanie will still take the Spectras over the Logans. 😄
@jonfoerster Жыл бұрын
@@parker341 So will most of the viewers
@Esi-741 Жыл бұрын
Bill got rid of the Logans and Brad eventually brought them back, front and center! 🙄
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
Macy's only real transgression to Steph is being Daughter of Sally lol. There was a time I recall Steph saying that she didn't have anything personally against Macy. And truly Macy has never done Steph anything.. In fact, she's pretty much stayed out of Steph's way, unlike Brooke who made it her business to be right in Steph's face alll day long lol
@Angel.M.Trinidad Жыл бұрын
🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹 Macy is so talented and beautiful - easy on the eye. I want this character to find her way and be happy. Angel/Trinidad West Indies. 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
@francoisekoko6068 Жыл бұрын
The best way to wipe away suspicion of threats from your partner... propose marriage.. . Ivana was sure a hell of desperado chick
@Esi-741 Жыл бұрын
What's Stephanie’s deal with not wanting Macy for her son? Macy is the one settling!
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
So true! Macy has way more class than anyone in the Forrester family.
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
Honestly Steph should be doing cartwheels that Macy will be part of her family. Beats the other daughter in law she has by far...
@ajax34 Жыл бұрын
An Indian mom with a below average son like Thorne would be THRILLED that a girl like Macy has any interest in him and she'd be pushing them to get married. 😂
@tiroyaonejustinphologolo9763 Жыл бұрын
Steph's reservations are more to do with how disastrous Thorne and Macy's marriage was the last time. It has little to do with Macy
@Esi-741 Жыл бұрын
@@tiroyaonejustinphologolo9763 Stephanie and the rest of the family were a big factor in Thorne and Macy's marriage. They didn't even hesitate to put her in jail. Macy is too good for any of them.
@NewYorkNick0607 Жыл бұрын
I like how the Sally/Stephanie scene starts off combative and then ends up commiserative. Note for example how Stephanie says Ridge is “holding his own” in a vague chilly way, not wanting to discuss her family with Sally. But then later Stephanie asks, “How’s Macy holding up?” with genuine concern in her voice. Same phrasing, different tone, indicating that Stephanie has warmed up to Sally by the end. Similarly, Sally enters the scene mocking “Her Majesty Queen Stephanie” but then later offers to “get down on her knees” as if acknowledging her rival’s royal position.
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
Slightly related @Nick... A couple epis back u mentioned about _doing the right thing vs doing the right thing for Sheila_ and the theme of individualism. I'm not sure if my comment ever showed, but I mentioned Sheila as the extreme form of individualism. Notice the difference.. Sally is considered as a foe of Steph, and will do what's right for Sally (stealing the spotlight at a Forrester show, stealing designs etc), yet she will still show genuine concern about Ridge. Sheila on the other hand, as a foe, has not once asked even Eric about Ridge... In fact, she was planning to use Ridge's tragedy to her advantage in "comforting" Eric..
@parker341 Жыл бұрын
Nice breakdown of the scene! Isn't it amazing how this scene is lower stakes than Ivana accusing Anthony or Thorne suspecting Ivana and yet Sally and Stephanie are SO much more interesting to watch?
@NewYorkNick0607 Жыл бұрын
@@TriniT21 Good point! The show was always careful to delineate the differences between Stephanie's foes and Sheila is much more "evil" compared to Sally and Brooke (who are just occasionally "bad"). I like your observation that Sheila is like an extreme perversion of Brooke's individualism and selfishness because of course Sheila's motivation is also always "love" but she goes about it in the sickest ways. That also fits my theory that Sheila and Brooke are foils who were on similar trajectories and that Sheila can do the extremely bad things that Brooke can't do but needs doing (like tampering with Bridget's paternity test).
@DonaldTaft Жыл бұрын
Darlene is great in this scene, especially when Steph says she doesn’t want to discuss Ridge with her - note Sally turns away and sighs heavily while Steph is still speaking, then tilts her head back to Steph in an exasperated manner, but immediately moves on. Great touch to show her ongoing annoyance at Steph’s combative attitude while having bigger fish to fry.
@NewYorkNick0607 Жыл бұрын
@@DonaldTaft Good observation! And more importantly, nice to see you again old friend! 🙂❤
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
"Thorne is not the jealous type", says Saul with a straight face.
@MrCraigblaze Жыл бұрын
How soon do we forget the shooting insident !! 😂😂
@babs4848 Жыл бұрын
We know how Thorne can be "Thornello"😂
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
@@babs4848 oh, absolutely! 😂
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
And Macy also stood there with a straight face! 😐
@tiroyaonejustinphologolo9763 Жыл бұрын
@@annieo6527 😂 Not Macy saying she and Anthony were heavily involved 9:36
@sharonstewart4882 Жыл бұрын
*@Nick* and *@Annie* - this is another "theme" episode. Every scene revolves around Macy's wedding and/or the threatening letters. 🙂
@NewYorkNick0607 Жыл бұрын
You're right. Good catch!
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
YES, and there is an even stronger thematic connection in the sense that every scene revolves around _a change in the level of conflict_ in anticipation of Thorne and Macy's wedding. Sally and Stephanie's scene revolves around a lowering of tension and ends with a truce and a handshake. Thorne's scene revolves around an increase in tension and ends with Thorne threatening to kill Ivana. Macy's scene and Ivana's scene are _identical_ - both revolve around a perceived (but misleading) lowering of the conflict level, where both women receive an unexpected sudden "peace offering" from Anthony (the wedding dress, the engagement ring), which they end up accepting as a sign of their trust in Anthony's good intentions. Again Macy and Ivana are connected/mirrored in the writing, as they have been on several occasions in the past (and will be in the future).
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
@@annieo6527 Anthony surely is knocking down his obstacles, one by one. Something else fairly minor I noticed... Usually the letter writing in this soap is used as a form of communication to clear up a situation/reconcile, but either never reaches its intended target in time (or at all) due to being somehow intercepted, thus leading to all kinds of drama from miscommunication. Here we have letters not only delivered perfectly on time to the intended (Macy), but the letter now is the central cause of drama, not only for Macy and Thorne, but also Ivana and Anthony ...
@NewYorkNick0607 Жыл бұрын
@@TriniT21 Yeah the mail always works well for the villains. See also Sheila's puzzle pieces/poems all reaching Lauren on time and somehow none of them ended up in Scott's hands. 🤔
@sharonstewart4882 Жыл бұрын
@@annieo6527 Love the Macy/Ivana connections you've outlined! 👏
@mara4450 Жыл бұрын
Not a good situation to propose and to accept. 😅 Let's remember that day. 14 minutes before getting engaged, I totally believed he was a creepy stalker who couldn't get over being rejected and so he was writing hate mails and was setting me up to take the blame. 13 minutes later I was totally convinced of his innocence and love - just because he said so and had a ring - and so I said yes.
@Angelika.... Жыл бұрын
Anthony really gets crazier every minute. Ivana realizes that Anthony is putting the light in her direction concerning those letters. And in the end he wants to marry her? I am not a fan of Ivana but she deserves better
@joonaa27517 ай бұрын
I think the marrying thing is a misdirection to convince others that his ”relationship” with Ivana is genuine
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
Ivana's engagement to Anthony feels like another one of those Faustian "deal with the devil" moments (the first one being when he coached her to write the first letter and told her to "put her soul into it", and then she _signed_ it with what we now know was her real initials). Ivana ties herself closer and closer to Anthony and she has no idea what she is signing up for. *(quasi spoiler)* As for Anthony, seeing these scenes knowing what will come is just chilling. Even Sheila in the dungeon isn't _this_ evil. What he is in the process of doing here has got to be the most purely sat anic deed in the history of the show. (Another interesting point is how this "two part Faustian deal" that leads to Ivana's destruction - first sharing her most incriminating secret with Anthony, and then accepting his engagement ring - is later replicated with Macy, indicating that she is also walking down the same path and facing the same fate as Ivana. But unlike Ivana, Macy is _insincere_ in her deals with the devil, hoping that will render them invalid. This theme of worming one's way out of Faustian deals is a common fairy tale trope, and one of the reasons I have said before that this storyline is more in the realm of myth/fairy tale than regular soap realism.)
@NewYorkNick0607 Жыл бұрын
YES! Another great example of "mirroring" in this storyline (which you've been outlining beautifully). Also Anthony's fake bride (Ivana) takes the fall for his plan to nab the woman he really wants just as Sally _(another_ fake bride of Anthony's) later takes a hit for Macy as well.
@saviodesilva7933 Жыл бұрын
Yeah knowing what's going to come is bone chilling horror. Anthony Armando is a brilliant actor.
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
@@NewYorkNick0607 yes, and Sally taking the hit also serves as an act of redemption (and mirroring) for that time when Anthony went after Sally (romantically) although it was Macy he was after, and Sally responded by sacrificing her relationship with her daughter (the redemption being that the second time she instead sacrifices _herself for_ her daughter). Sally's relationship with Anthony is also worthy of attention because she has always been his greatest enabler. She is the one who "invited him in" in the first place, even when Macy was against it. So it's only right that Sally needs to pay that price.
@Angel.M.Trinidad Жыл бұрын
🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹 Dearest Saul with his signature tape! Angel.
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
Anthony says he felt a heat with Ivana that he's never felt with any woman... That must have happened totally offscreen. Just like Ivana and Thorne's relationship...
@francoisekoko6068 Жыл бұрын
Have a drink on me please
@tiroyaonejustinphologolo9763 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
I think this mainly goes to show how absolutely _starved_ Ivana is for male attention. She just latches onto the first guy that comes her way. First Dylan, then Thorne, now Anthony. And every single time she is overestimating the relationship status.
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
@@annieo6527 a better actress and better writers, could have actually made Ivana a more interesting on screen character, looking for love in all the wrong places. Almost like a version of Margo. I think instead of wasting our collective time with Karen, they could have had an Ivana type character - with her backstory) fighting with Macy over Thorne. I could even see Ivana (in that character) becoming besties with Brooke
@angelscorpio5485 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Stephanie still wonders where her sweetheart James is...
@MrCraigblaze Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the the upload !! We can use Sally as the ambassador to Mexico !!..😂😂
@jgoldfarb3 Жыл бұрын
I love Sally Spectra❤️
@MrCraigblaze Жыл бұрын
@@jgoldfarb3 Oh Me too..She is to die for.. Pardon the pun 🤣 !!
@kirstyssmith Жыл бұрын
Sally looks fabulous in that outfit 😍
@tobydean709711 ай бұрын
Don’t ever say you will kill someone Thorne?!!! 😮😮😮
@filionsteve2133 Жыл бұрын
lol Sally entrance always powerful😅😅
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
At least we know that Thorne has spoken to Steph off camera about macy's troubles. Doesn't seem he keeps her up to date tho as Steph still has to ask Sally what's happening.
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
Music analysis time! *(@Esi)* The music cue that plays at the end of the episode is a very distinctive and heartwarming one called Paulina's Big Smile. It is usually associated with situations where one character appears as a "beacon of light" in another character's life and comforts them when they are sad or going through something difficult. This music being used for Anthony's proposal to Ivana is incredibly misleading if we look at what is actually happening, but it is used to show us how _Ivana_ feels about the situation (and she _is_ being misled), and possibly make us believe in her perception of it. The show has done something similar on a few occasions before, like when they used Beth and Eric's nostalgic theme for Sheila and Eric, or when they used a melancholy and innocent-sounding theme for Macy and Anthony. I really enjoy this subtle manipulation where the underscoring portrays not what is actually happening but a character's _misconception_ about what is happening - the music is the character's "rose-colored glasses".
@DAILMCDAVID Жыл бұрын
Well Stephanie isn't always pleasant she BARGES in on people too.
@JanetWashington-ph6dz9 ай бұрын
LOVE Darla. She ALWAYS looks GREAT without even trying. Hair and clothes always on point. Nice Lime color on her
@ministryofwrongthink9847 Жыл бұрын
did Anthony the king of gaslighting propose to Ivanna with the same ring as Macy?
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
He gaslights Ivana with a ring and Macy with a wedding gown, all in the same day!
@ministryofwrongthink9847 Жыл бұрын
@@annieo6527 hes playing the long game with his revenge
@Milah95 Жыл бұрын
Anthony has always been creepy from day one! Don’t Thorne and Macy remember how he came on to her and kissed her in their bed even though he was a complete stranger 🙄
@Dana_inc Жыл бұрын
Then she had the nerve to fall in love with after he violated her. Normally they come around and put on a show to get you! That name makes my blood curdle!
@Angel.M.Trinidad Жыл бұрын
🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹 "One woman broke my heart and almost immediately another one stepped in and healed it. Now its beating even stronger than ever ..." Talk about lyrics Anthony has. He could teach Ridge a thing or two cuz Ridge is only moaning about Taylor. 🤭🤭🤭 Angel/Trinidad West Indies. 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
@prestonrcasey Жыл бұрын
The internet is saying that this is episode 1 of Season 9
@ronish.8371 Жыл бұрын
Now that i thinking about it Saul's character barely seen in season of 1994 . Too bad that 1995 gonna be the last year he will be . Cause he died in 1996 ⚙️
@jgoldfarb3 Жыл бұрын
Oh No 😥 Sal is one of my favorites.
@Anastashya Жыл бұрын
Oh, so sad 😢I really like Saul. Such a sweet guy.
@daliaelkhatib1726 Жыл бұрын
poor ivana Anthony is playing her and she is fallig right where he wants her she wants a man any man she is eager to fall in love like she loves the idea of being in love
@Jenny-ok4no2 ай бұрын
And to think poor James is in that dungeon 😢
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
Saul to Macy today: "Pick out a dress to get married in." IRV to Macy yesterday: "Pick out a dress to get _buried_ in."
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
And IRV.. "Never mind, i will make the dress for you.." The thought of Macy wearing something Anthony made on her wedding day for some reason creeps me out. Almost like if Sheila made a wedding dress for Lauren.. You know nothing good is going to come of this.
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
@@TriniT21 it is very creepy. Kind of like he is marking Macy's body as his territory by making her _"wear him"_ on her wedding day. Not to mention what he's going to do under the pretext of making her try on the dress.
@brendanbressler9807 Жыл бұрын
The actress who plays Ivana kinda resembles Sarah Buxton who later plays Morgan DeWitt. I think Ivana is prettier though.
@TriniT21 Жыл бұрын
Yes something about her reminds me also of Morgan
@semoneg2826 Жыл бұрын
Yes true
@filionsteve2133 Жыл бұрын
Ivanas giving a Sheila vibe look At 6:04
@reachthestars-du8kw Жыл бұрын
Thorne isn't the jealous type! Well, he was scared of Jake! Damn, Macy made a mistake choosing Thorne #2!
@louiscassas2491 Жыл бұрын
The mannequins the in background of the Macy Saul and darla scene in the office resemble Sheila!
@jennygustave2074 Жыл бұрын
Anthony looks guilty like sin 😅
@vickilanger1228 Жыл бұрын
BLESSED TERRIFIC TUESDAY TO ALL ☺️💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖☺️
@Dana_inc Жыл бұрын
Sally and her nick names for Maria 😂 I’m glad Maria wasn’t offended by those names now everyone is overly sensitive!
@annlavine3576 Жыл бұрын
the strangest proposal ever
@daroof4ever Жыл бұрын
Season 9 soon?
@Angel.M.Trinidad Жыл бұрын
🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹 Sally is always the bigger man between her and Queen Stephanie. Angel/Trinidad West Indies. 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
@tobydean709711 ай бұрын
Stupid story?!!!! Ivana agrees to marry Anthony???? 😅
@VjAdrasaVideos Жыл бұрын
cant remember a thing about the letters storyline i cant get enough i need spoilers LOL
@-Lily7415 Жыл бұрын
Spoiler Anthony wrote the letters Ivanna will come to her senses soon and call the police While telling Anthony they are on the way He decides to kill her Thorne is arrested for her murder during his wedding to Macy.
@VjAdrasaVideos Жыл бұрын
@@-Lily7415 wow!!! its gonna be a thriller
@yasmminkalpesi4605 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. ❤❤❤
@Angel.M.Trinidad Жыл бұрын
🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹 "... If she wrote those letters, so help me I will kill her!" Thorne does not make idle threats. He almost killed Ridge with a bullet! I hope Ivana is innocent else the ice proncess could melt! Angel/Trinidad West Indies. 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
@Bishbud6 ай бұрын
19:15 Proposing to the rebound?
@sbookey4 ай бұрын
The only thing missing form the Thorne-Jessica-Dylan investigation is Scooby Do.
@sbookey4 ай бұрын
Sally is dressed like a taxi cab, and is basically tossing racist chiquita banana comments at Maria, which wasn't acceptable even then.
@greggel Жыл бұрын
i feel sorry for Ivana, she only wanted a man to love her
@annieo6527 Жыл бұрын
Yes, me too. She really seems desperate to be loved. This is the third guy she falls for in less than a year who doesn't actually want her.
@ELLENMAF10 ай бұрын
Wouldn't the police have discovered the handwriting was different on the first letter and the others???? Wouldn't they have analyzed that by now???
@luciepaul12704 ай бұрын
The letters were typed
@CurlyGirly95598 ай бұрын
Did Saul really just say that Thorne isn't the jealous type? Was he present during their marriage or...
@Angel.M.Trinidad Жыл бұрын
🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹 Anthony has no top lip. He is kissing icy Ivana with his bottom lip and nose. The camera man not even showing us a closeup although they are close up. 😮😅😮 Angel/Trinidad West Indies. 🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹🇹
@JodyBreeze-jb9ig10 ай бұрын
Ivana might be the only lady more easier to get than Brooke 😂