Bone & Lamp Black; Making Ancient Pigments

[@darthanazareth2945]

more videos please, this channel is magnificent, a big hug from Peru.

[@joebesch]

Thanks so much!

[@sohelparves6233]

Sir, how long we need to heat the bone to make bone black

[@Mritunjaymukherjee]

Please upload such kind of videos. This is very very useful for a true art aspirant who want to learn.

[@atupe]

Beautiful editing

[@happydays2190]

Most underrated chanel

[@joebesch]

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[@aryamadamwar4820]

Which one absorbe more heat???

[@kevinwibawa7117]

Its very informative, thank you very much👍👍👍

[@l0I0I0I0]

Great stuff!

[@ournuminousnature]

so awesome thank you!

[@joebesch]

Thank you!

[@antichimaestri7080]

Congrats for the video! I tried the same process as you but when I combined the black pigment with the linseed oil the paint didn't dry. After a month it is still fresh. What do you recommend?

[@joebesch]

@@antichimaestri7080 lamp black is a very slow drier. I usually use a combination of both of these pigments. You could also try a fast dry medium with that color.

[@atupe]

Please show us some of your paintings

[@joebesch]

Thanks for watching joebesch.com/

[@l0I0I0I0]

@@joebesch I like your work my grandfather whom I was close to was an amazing artist. I love your work. I had checked out your website. Very cool 😎.

[@hard1skj0k10]

how long should the bowl stay on the flame for the lamp black?

[@joebesch]

It builds up pretty quick. I left it maybe 20 minutes

[@hard1skj0k10]

@@joebesch Ok, thank you...

[@heavycolored]

Great video thank you so much. Are you using a marble tile with the mueller? Where can I get one? Thank you!

[@joebesch]

Thanks. It is a slab of marble. I got it from a local countertop supplier, who often have scrap pieces.

[@Minotaur-ey2lg]

I’ve used the same process to make char cloth. Didn’t know you could make bone black that way. Pretty cool. Two questions: What were you burning in the lamp and could you add the refined bone black to something like vaseline to make a body paint of sorts (I hunt in the snow and goggles are really annoying. Thinking I could try blacking the ares around my eyes to combat some of the glare.)?

[@joebesch]

I use just basic lamp oil. Mixing with Vaseline would probably work, but it might stain. Hard to wash off. The lamp black in particular is a very strong color and hard to wash off my hands.

[@Minotaur-ey2lg]

@@joebesch Thanks.

[@thomasgronek6469]

We ust jused burned cork for blackening, maybe it could be mixed with makeup foundation so it doesn't come off too easily, , , real cork, not the rubber stoppers that are now in wine bottles Best of success

[@marynamdar]

perfect, thank you for sharing with us. in some manuscripts : put a wet muslin in the bowl.

[@masterbelch1293]

I feel the bone black is more matte, maybe lighter. Soot black is darker, and more glossy.

[@joebesch]

Agreed.

[@davidkurt8612]

great video, how is they so much soot on the bottom of the bowl for the lampblack?

[@joebesch]

Thanks, it's the carbon buildup. Probably why things were so dirty back when these lamps were common place.

[@iamfrommars6282]

Great video!!! I've got to give it a try! Maybe you could help me with an advice. I am making lead white for my personal use. I after it completely corroded, I wash it with water several times, then i put it into improvised ball mill( with water) then i let it dry. Then i crush it in ball mill once again. And i still have one issue. When i grind it with oil it has some glue like consistency. Not to much. But still annoying. Oil that i use : cold pressed walnut oil and cold pressed linseed oil. Thank you beforehand.

[@joebesch]

The process looks fine. I'd assume it was a grinding issue. I find white needs only a small amount of oil, and personally I find linseed works better than walnut. I've heard natural pigments grinders oil works well with that pigment. Also, every pigment seems to have it's own unique consistency, and lead white is famous for it's long or 'stringy' one.

[@iamfrommars6282]

@@joebesch thank you very much for your respond! Yes you are definitely right about the walnut. It gives some very weird behavior to the paint. I usually order oils from "zecchi". And also about unique pigment qualities. It is true. Noticed it when compared my white from 1 year ago with the one that i made recently, they do indeed behave a bit differently. I' see if i can order "Rublev"( it is difficult to bring things in my country). And thank you once again friend. And love you're videos, they are very unique and informative 👍

[@joebesch]

Thought the name zecchi sounded familiar, ive been to that nice shop! Or maybe kremer pigments would have an option, they have a german see store. Thanks again and good luck

[@iamfrommars6282]

@@joebesch hi! I just got pale grinders oil from "Rublev" ( naturall pigments) . And it works just perfectly! And I really want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your advice! It could not be more helpful! So thank you VERY VERY MUCH once again Joe!

[@joebesch]

@@iamfrommars6282 great to hear. Happy painting!

[@franciscomaturana4174]

hello, thank you very much for the video. i have a question. i made the bone black, mixed it with linseed oil and made oil. i painted with it on a primed canvas. but the bone black oil has been drying for two months and it still hasn't dried. is it really that slow drying for this pigment? thanks

[@joebesch]

Wow. That's a while. I've noticed it's a little slow drying, it depends on atmospheric conditions, thickness of the paint, etc. I'm surprised it's taking that long though. Sunshine seems to help too. I usually mix enough colors together that they dry relatively quickly.

[@barnehagefanden]

Linseed oil or boiled linseed oil? Huge difference in curing time.

[@TheRedhawke]

Where did you find a mueller that large ?

[@joebesch]

I thought I got it from www.jerrysartarama.com/ But it doesn't look like they have anything that big anymore. But it is too big for my needs.

[@TheRedhawke]

@@joebesch could you recommend an appropriate size for this application ? I want to grind bone black as well as Earth tones from locally harvested clays. Thank you for the great how to .

[@joebesch]

@@TheRedhawke that mueller is about 4" wide. One about half that size is a little more versatile when making about a tube of paint or so.

[@TheRedhawke]

@@joebesch thank you so much. Looking forward to more great content from your channel. I’ve already subscribed and can’t wait to see what process you teach us next.

[@joebesch]

@@TheRedhawke thanks, I hopefully have a few more videos for later this year.

[@nunyabiznes33]

Now, how to make bone white?

[@indanthrone]

Hyena dung

[@sandmanbub]

@Whoop!