The Problem with the Saramonic UwMic9 System

There's good reason to be careful when you pick up pieces of the UwMic9 system. Sure, it's hugely popular - but if you're not careful, you can buy the wrong version very easily and end up with a sub-par setup!
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0:00-0:28 Intro
0:28-3:04 Design and Functions
3:04-3:56 My Mistake
3:56-6:33 The Lavs (examples)
6:33-10:10 The XLR Nightmare
10:10-13:23 Saramonic's Support
13:23-15:43 Vs. The Sennheiser
15:43-17:18 The Second Coming
17:18-18:54 Conclusion
18:54-19:25 Outro

[@zurvey]

Wow. This was VERY good and extremely helpful. Thank you for taking the trouble to do this for us.

[@SolarFlightPro]

Thank you Tom! I’m trying to do more of these, got some fun audio stuff to talk about in the near future. I appreciate your kind words, happy to help!

[@MixYourWay]

Subscribed! Really useful stuff you have right here. Thank you for doing this AB.

[@SathanaST]

Man you are so underrated, keep up with the content!

[@SolarFlightPro]

Thanks man! I’m working on some stuff, just had a lot of client work over the last few months. There’s more incoming!

[@bobbinnie9872]

Good review style. Helped me a lot, thanks.

[@SolarFlightPro]

Thank you Bob! I've got three more coming out hopefully in the next week (finishing the last one), with another 8 or so in the works!

[@independent900]

This is an excellent production. I'm a newbie and testing my yellow version of the Tx9/Rx9. It sounds pretty good so far, but I think a high quality shotgun will meet my needs best.

[@NormenHansen]

For these, the frequency really matters. Even if it seems that theres nothing else on those airwaves you might get a better result at other frequencies. Can happen due to reflections etc. Listen to the garbled „s“-sounds, they appear first when the system has issues at the current frequency. While the Sennheiser is definitely better at handling these issues you can still hear it happening with that system too. Been working with pro audio systems from Sennheiser, Shure, AKG etc for decades and this stuff is basically the performance you got from the high-end gear ten, twenty years ago.

[@GeorgeTech]

Thanks buddy. Good work!

[@TKK881]

Thank you for your realistic review, as I also experience the same sudden signal drop out problem, even I have the newer black version. One thing I would like to ask, which you have said in the video, the black version have "gain control" which you think might solve the problem. But I could not find "gain control" in the setting, instead I can found "mic sensitivity". Is "mic sensitivity" the feature you mention? Thank you.

[@SolarFlightPro]

Yes, mic sensitivity is what they call their input gain setting. It will allow you to adjust the levels on the transmitter so that they're not peaking, but it won't solve the dropout issue, unfortunately.

[@ScottSullivanTV]

I really hope you continue with YouTubing. A lot of reviewers of camera tech on KZbin never use the equipment out on the field. Not to name names, but a lot of popular camera-reviewers only use their camera equipment to make videos about camera equipment. Pointless. I like hearing actual on-set experiences you've encountered. I've seen several of your ads, and I really enjoy them. (Question: What is your ultimate goal in film? More client work? Narrative? Documentary? Just curious.) I'm a few years out of high school, and though I've always made videos since I was a kid, I'm looking to finally jump into creating client work. I'm scared and nervous. And don't know where to start. My ultimate goal is to make actual narrative films, but that is a long way away, and I'm not sure what path to take. Regardless of my tangent, you create great stuff, and I hope to see more from you. I genuinely believe your channel can take off in the future. And when you get there, please don't become the Gerald Undone of KZbin. Be the next Film Riot of KZbin. Thank you, Garrett.

[@SolarFlightPro]

Thanks man, I'm hoping we can get more reviews and tips and tricks videos done as well. I enjoy making them, I've just not made the time for it until now. We're testing out some new kit on set all next week, so there's more to come once I've gotten comfortable with them! I'm glad you enjoy the ads! Our goal is more narrative, but when it comes to building out your kit and paying the bills, commercial stuff is a lot easier to manage. Everyone's path is different, for sure. I started my company about three months out of high school, and for the first three years I worked regular jobs while building up my client list. If you've not got any gear yet, get the best microphone you can afford and then buy a camera and start shooting stuff for friends. Fake commercials, silly short films, all that stuff lets you experiment and play around. MZED is a great learning tool as well for you to get more specific industry advice than most of youtube offers. Then offer a free commercial to one or two places so you have real clients, and set your pricing wherever you're comfortable from then on. Thank you for the kind words. We're big fans of Film Riot too, they're great! We did our "Boom Shot" series of videos to try to do something similar, but I'm working out how we can approach teaching concepts a little differently. Hopefully people enjoy what we do and share videos around with their friends!

[@leobarrios2532]

Oh thank you for you info. I appreciate it!

[@ButterViZion]

I've had issues with this system as well, and unfortunately threw out the boxes before fully testing. I can't believe you can't adjust the mic input level on the transmitters ... half the people I mic up are clipping the whole time they talk. I'm surprised no one reviewing it ever mentioned this major issue. I wonder if the black versions will play nicely with the yellow receivers I already have

[@kenlo5433]

thanks for ur sharing, nice work!

[@Psychofilmz]

I have the lavalier single receiver and transmitter kit using now....if I buy a handheld saramonic transmitter only, will it work with the lavalier reliever I have ???

[@SolarFlightPro]

It should work, yes, as long as they’re in the same frequency range. You’ll need to pair them together when you get it, but there shouldn’t be a problem with them working together.

[@Psychofilmz]

Ok thanks I'll try and see how it goes when I purchase it..

[@WinnipegRealEstateVideos]

Thanks for the review, better than most with lots of real detail. We produce real estate videos and need to get a new system to replace the Sony units that through wear and tear are causing lots of problems. This video really helps. Still not sure what to get next, it needs to be wireless and quick to set-up.

[@SolarFlightPro]

Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching! The Black Label Sarmonics might be worth a try, just avoid the yellow label ones. We've moved onto Sennheiser and we're pretty happy with them, but with any wireless setup there's the initial setup of scanning channels that you'll want to do for the clearest signal.

[@WinnipegRealEstateVideos]

Thanks for the reply. We have been using the Sony ECMAW4 Bluetooth system for several years and can feed two units to a video camera. The sound is really good but the range is no more than 20 ft. One unit has fallen apart with wear so we are going to replace it with the same unit, at least we know it will work and will never drop (if close) the signal and never has interference of any kind even when close to fluorescent lights or power lines. Thanks again

[@jamieharrington178]

I too am a real estate photographer and I have the black label versions. I just sent them back for warranty service because of constant dropouts. I tried all sorts of changes with zero luck. I’m hoping the next set are at least useable as a backup. I went a little mic kit crazy recently and now have the Blink 500 Pro and sennheiser 512 G4 kits. If budget allows, go with sennheiser.

[@rickraub5448]

So, I was about to bid on one of these sets on ebay. Im holding the bid for now.. I need to have two lavs to my one camera for an uncomplicated two person interviews. I certainly don't want side one cutting out though. Any other dual transmitters systems you can suggest?

[@SolarFlightPro]

I have been using the Rode Wireless Go II for my quick run-and-gun setups for a few weeks now, and I’m still using actual Lav mics plugged into them so I can hide the microphone. They’ve been working great for a dual-transmitter setup with a single receiver.

[@EstewrokXPG]

Great video. I have the exactly same problems with Saramonic RX15 (XLR TX + Receiver). After trying a lot of things, i can pair the XLR TX to a Sennheiser G3 RX and i resolve that stupid hiss sound that ruin all the video jobs. The Saramonic RX pack is the real problem.

[@TenzaMotorsports]

My initial plan was to buy the Sennheiser single transmitter for around the $600 mark. But I really need the dual transmitters to be an option for me. My camera is a canon m50 and uses a 3.5mm in. Would the black label saramonic kit 2 be a good kit? Or is there something else I should be looking at that can run two transmitters? Again I was hoping spend around ~600 or less. Great video btw! Keep it up!

[@SolarFlightPro]

I'd say the black label is a good place to start, especially in that price range. You might also look at the Rode Wireless Go, which I believe has the same ability to send two transmitters to one receiver - although you'd need to get some lavs separately, like the Rode Smart Lav ($79, if I remember correctly). They've got built in batteries as well, so no fiddling with AAs.

[@TenzaMotorsports]

@@SolarFlightPro the ability to replace the batteries, vs waiting for a charge, is actually a feature I want. The other thing I like is the locking jacks into the packs. I hear a lot of people will buy these lower priced systems and then use a rode or sennheiser mic. With my budget that would also be an option for me. I could get the black labels upgrade the mics and figure out a carry case for 600 ish

[@SolarFlightPro]

@@TenzaMotorsports yeah, that sounds like a solid plan. I went ahead and got the Sennheiser stuff, but it cost me over $2k. You could definitely make that setup you listed out work very well!

[@samsyanks]

@@SolarFlightPro I have the black label version and it is working just fine for wedding and field view and sports. My only issue with them may be when u have to monitor the frequency and get a better signal but love the headset input to hear and fix ur problems... $$$$ definitely worth buying

[@adlern]

Thank you for this review! I have the exact same problem with my pair! And I have been googling for months trying to figure out what the problem is or if anyone else is have the same issue.

[@SolarFlightPro]

Thank you for watching! I'm sorry you're having the same issue, it's certainly frustrating.

[@adlern]

It is! Ruined a couple of takes, so its been tossed away for good. Biggest issue is how unreliable they are, could work fine for a few tests, but suddenly drop out.

[@SolarFlightPro]

@@adlern This was my issue with them. I can handle it on my own projects where it’s just me dealing with it, but when it happens in front of a client - that’s a no go for me. You end up paying for reliability more than anything.

[@scottburrow8293]

What I use with my tx-xlr9 is a triton audio fet-head phantom 13 db gain. Then you can lower the transmitter gain. Works great.

[@SolarFlightPro]

On my unit, there was not any option to adjust the input gain. What menu setting are you using to adjust that? (Very interested to know if I was wrong, by the way! I want to give accurate information when I do these.)

[@gareth1183]

First of all, fantastic video. I just recently bought the 'black label' version of this system you referred to, and... it's a fail. It has exactly the same problem of the audio dropout that you had on your 'yellow label' system. Even after pulling the mic sensitivity down, the audio still fell out the bottom. At one point, there was no audio at all for about 4 seconds. This happened on two different paying jobs (creative rescue editing can only go so far) For a test, I hooked up one of my Sony Wireless systems (totally different frequency ranges) as well as the Saramonic and attached them to a mate of mine. Once again, the Saramonic dropped off, the Sony? Seamless. I even had a broadcast engineer friend, who uses wireless microphones for a news channel and knows every trick in the book to try and see if he could figure it out. He eventually told me to rather put them back in the box and forget about it. The only thing I could recommend is to monitor the audio out of the RX9 and listen for the drop off - because it will come - and hopefully it something that can be reshot. I'll need to consider trying to return them for a refund. If not, they are going to be a very expensive 'budget' piece of kit that I can do nothing with. I simply can't trust them on a production. Perhaps using them as a paper weight could be an option. Keep it up! Great work!

[@SolarFlightPro]

I'm sorry the black label ones didn't fix the issue for you, man, that sucks. We've been pretty happy with our Sennheiser kit since we shot this video, but I still go for a boom as often as I can! I appreciate your feedback. If it were me, I'd try to get my money back. Don't keep gear you can't trust! I'll be more careful about recommending things I haven't thoroughly tested myself in the future, just to be safe - although the fact that they haven't fixed this in the new version is mind-boggling.

[@RuXTaR]

I have the black version and it's frustrating that it still drops out even on short distances like 2-3 meters. I wanted a more professional solution to replace my digital saramonic and so far it has failed on every use. Yesterday I shot an hour and a half long lecture and I wisely placed a backup mic and recorder on the podium. The wireless signal is pretty unusable. Parts are, but it would randomly cut out and hiss. It adds stress to straightforward jobs.

[@lorenzofk]

Yoooo, I had the same problem with audio from b dropping out, I even sent a transmitter back to saramonic to have the same issue. I just figured out using 2 channels next to each other like 1&2 makes the problem. In testing, using 1 and 96seems to work fine. Hope this helps, this was driving me crazy any you’re the first person I found mentioning this!

[@SolarFlightPro]

We had tried that too, it was better for a bit and then started up again :/ I'm glad it's working for you though, I hope it works for other people as well! I was surprised no one else had talked about the issue in a review, it was the whole reason I wanted to make this video. Now I'm doing lots of them!

[@sgstrikesports1461]

I did for a few wedding, had the same issue.. Luckily i had a saramonic handheld mic as a replacement.. It work fine, I will try your suggestion on changing the channels but im not sure why if handheld mic gives no problem, the wireless mic had problems..

[@SolarFlightPro]

@@sgstrikesports1461 Different designs may be susceptible to interference in different ways. I've been in situations where one XLR cord had a problem, and the other was clean, and then in a different room the opposite was true. Audio is basically black magic.

[@yesayadanu]

we tried 5 channels apart and the signal dropping persists. I'll try 10/20 channels apart tomorrow on set, or like you said, use 1 & 96. I'll report back how it goes.

[@JaxsynBunker]

Yesaya Danu, how did it go

[@DNKSLegacyProductions]

The information was informative but I have not had the same problems you have had. I have used the system for a few of years now and I have been satisfied with their performance, I even did an interview session that lasted well over 4 hours with no problem. I guess I will have to keep an eye out for this but I've had the so long they're probably not under warranty.

[@SolarFlightPro]

Hey man, I'm glad they've worked for you! Maybe there's just some quality control issues or something, I might have gotten a bad batch. I can only review what I had in my hands, unfortunately. There's some other people that have commented and said they had the same issue, but I know 10 different people have 10 different experiences with the same product. If it works for you, who cares what reviewers say? You're definitely out of warranty after a year, but it sounds like you may not need it! (Thank you for watching, I really appreciate it!)

[@NKS_2]

I trust your review because of the detail you went through. I just wanted to add my experience with them. In my experience with electronics they work out of the box or they have problems out of the box. I have some devices I bought from another manufacturer and 1 out of the 5 failed almost immediately and the others have been working for years. Fortunately I didn't have the problems you experienced. Like you said, may have been quality control issue.

[@SolarFlightPro]

@@NKS_2 I appreciate you taking the time to share your experience! The more information available, the better people can make buying decisions!

[@UkuleleBobbyKemp]

Great video my friend. 👏👏. Thanksalot, BK 🌺🎶

[@meck10101]

I think you can use an xlr splitter and have both mono signals out

[@diogomartinez7991]

one The best Reviews

[@SolarFlightPro]

Thank you!

[@jperryheun]

While I didn't initially have the problems you were experiencing with the Yellow Saramonics, after only 2 years of use I'm looking to replace them. Not only did the dropouts go from unnoticeable to annoying, but the stiff plastic "strain relief" on the antennas has caused the outer covering (and in one case, the whole antenna) to break off. Like with you, support has been next to nonexistent. I only wish your review came earlier to save me this headache. P.S. Interesting that the TX-XLR9 hasn't failed me in the way yours has. Though I've mainly used dynamic mics, so perhaps that distortion is a function of the phantom power being turned on. Still shouldn't happen, but it might explain it.

[@SolarFlightPro]

I'm sorry to hear that, man. I always hope that I'm just unlucky, but I've seen a few people say something similar. Interesting point about the dynamic mics, I wish I would have had one to try out the phantom power theory. It may also just be that the NTG-3 signal is too hot for the transmitter - especially without any sort of gain control on the unit itself.

[@oudo97]

I have the black label version & unfortunately I have the same signal drop problem AFTER alot of search I found that if i changed the singal channel to the highest one which is 596mhz the problem starts to vanish beside lowering the mic volume from the 27 to 20 is a day for night difference still i won't recommend it i will recommend buying 2nd hand g3 or g4 you will end up with better results :)

[@yesayadanu]

9:42 problem i think it's the Mic Sensitivity issue. When you use high Mic Sensitivity (around 10-11-12), that harsness/crunchy/over-sparkle treble appears. And one guest star we had, her voice was SO LOUD at times (when she's fired up/laughing) that the mic just can't keep up, it sounded really harsh & distorted even when i lower the Mic Sensitivity to 4. I hope you can make videos about this. Saramonic is "budget" friendly options, but it's not an option if it's not reliable.

[@SolarFlightPro]

I no longer have my kit, since I sold it to offset the cost of my Sennheiser system that I purchased. On my TX-XLR9, there was no Mic sensitivity option at all - I couldn't change that setting, only the receiver side. Someone else mentioned this too, but I went through the menu a bunch of times trying to find that option and couldn't. I know the guy who bought it, so maybe I can take a look at it again to double check, but I went crazy looking for it the first time!

[@sgstrikesports1461]

Can i just buy the black receiver and still use the 2 yellow transmitter?

[@SolarFlightPro]

I am unsure of the compatibility between those two different models, that’s something you’d have to check with Saramonic about.

[@arielbushay9112]

How’d you fix the issue with the Group B lav at 5:18 with the audio coming in and out?

[@SolarFlightPro]

Short answer: I didn't. Long answer: I reshot that over and over again until we had a take where we got lucky and it didn't drop out during her lines. It was a nightmare.

[@yesayadanu]

that's great. @@SolarFlightPro my video can't be redone because it's a talkshow. luckily we set 2 shotgun for backup just in case. because the signal dropping has been going on several times already.

[@SolarFlightPro]

@@yesayadanu I'm learning the hard way to always run way more mics than I think I need.

[@tagdronephotography]

I have the black ones and getting the same issues. I'm a bit stumped as at first they had no issues but now all of a sudden it's becoming a problem as most of my interviews I do are quick so no time for multiple retakes.🙈

[@SolarFlightPro]

That's frustrating, I'm sorry man. I was overly optimistic about the new version, it seems. Maybe it's time to look at the Rode Wireless Go II system instead? I've used them once and they were rock solid through recording.

[@melchortungol4019]

uw10 rx10 power won't turn on with new batteries..only lights without display..can somebody help me get through this..highly appreciated

[@kylelemburg4464]

Thank you!

[@kenyontech]

Hi, I've just come across this video as I researched this kit. I've seen comments suggesting that the "new" version does something similar. I'm sort of wondering what, if anything, might be a reasonable option in this price ball park. . I really appreciate the content.

[@SolarFlightPro]

The best options (in my opinion) are the rode wireless go II system or the DJI wireless mics. Everything else jumps up to a much different price bracket.

[@kenyontech]

@@SolarFlightPro Understood. Thanks.

[@umbertoaguiar]

​@@SolarFlightPro First of all, thanks for your review. I've just ordered the receiver, transmitter for lavaliere and plug-on XLR transmitter. They all have a black label , including the transmitter, according to the pictures. `I ordered them before watching your review but am not worried at all as I bought from Amazon UK so if there is any problem then return/refund will be very fast and very easy. As a matter of fact, I did return for a full refund two headphones to them about six months after the purchase. No problem. The two options you mentioned don't have plug-on XLR transmitters so if you need to work with a handheld mic then those two mics are not an option. The GO II handheld adapter is too noisy to the touch, looks cheap and would make many reporters feel uncomfortable as they are not familiar with a handheld mic which looks like a toy as it is not really a handheld mic. What are your thoughts on the Deity Pocket Wireless with plug-on XLR transmitter and the Godox WMic S 1 Pro with plug-on XLR transmitter? I ordered the Sarmonic to replace the Deity because I am very disappointed in its receiver . It doesn't have a headphone port ! I just can't believe that. I use my iPhone 13 Pro to shoot news and can't possibly shoot an interview without monitoring the audio. Literally all wireless receivers I've seen have a headphone port, even when they are half the size of Deity's pocket receiver such as the Synco receiver and the Mackie receiver. I found a solution but it turned out that is a half baked one: Rode AI interface. This because the sound I hear in the headphone whilst using that Rode interface is not the sound being recorded to my phone. The recorded sound is much lower, to the point of being unusable. The only way to fix it is to boost the audio considerably in the XLR transmitter but I really don't like doing that, especially when I have to go as high as +24 db. I am no audio expert but just don't like the idea of artificial gains. If I connect the Deity receiver to my phone using a ugreen lightning to audio adapter then I don't need to add gain and the audio is better but I can't monitor it! So I am looking for a replacement for the Deity. I am happy with the Godox although I like the size and practicability of the Deity. Besides , Deity's XLR transmitter is much better than Godox's. So, again, what are your thoughts on the Deity pocket with XLR transmitter and the Godox? I would appreciate knowing your view as I am still choosing which kit to use. I will carry two with me because I would never go out for a shooting without an audio back up. If I am working with my broadcast camera then the on camera shotgun is the back up. But I do need a complete kit to use as a back if shooting with my iPhone.

[@sharonwood7522]

I've experienced so much trouble with this set and I have the black set. We have only one mic pack work at the same time... And it switches back and forth. It's infuriating

[@yesayadanu]

5:27 we have the same issue. got 2 of the Uwmic9 Kit2 with the dual Tx (total 4Tx), the audio signal keeps dropping every once in a while. one time we shoot a talk show for a well-known actress in our country, and the audio problem come out. planning to send it back if the problem persists.

[@SolarFlightPro]

If it's happening to you, I would go ahead and get something else. I was unable to ever get them to work reliably.

[@yesayadanu]

@@SolarFlightPro so after a month later, the problem EXISTS still, even when i use 30 channel apart. I use 4TXs on Channel 1, 30, 60, 90. Then last week, i was so frustrated, so i twist open the XLR connector (all of them) and found that some of the cable inside are NOT CUT cleanly. So some bare wires are out and touching the other wires. It was really A MESS inside there. So i trim the excess bare wire and..... THE SOUND IS WAYYYYY SO MUCH CLEANER. BUT the "dub" then audio gone for half a second still exist 1x during 1,5hour of continuous usage (i shoot long interview). I'll let you know if i found the culprit. But for sure, Saramonic really needs to up their Quality Control line there for the XLR cable. Here's the photos of the inner XLR Cable photos.app.goo.gl/shet1DsPeoo1CXZ69

[@SolarFlightPro]

@@yesayadanu Wow. You really went in depth with this. I'm glad you were able to get a cleaner signal, sorry it's still dropping out on you though. It's frustrating.

[@fed02]

I had the same issue too. I had 3 sets of these mics (6tx and 3rx) and 2 of the 3 sets had the same problem. I really cant figure it out what was wrong, it will be fine one moment and the next moment it will start up again.

[@yesayadanu]

@@fed02 when it acts up, try touching the body of the XLR metal connector. If the noise reduced, you need to open the XLR head and trim the excess wires inside. If your problem is like noise then clip, try changing channel.

[@ericwheelwright3025]

Great video.

[@SolarFlightPro]

Thank you for watching!

[@neulandlotse]

Never had such issues with my Rode NewsShooter Kit.

[@GarCorStudio]

Great review. I actually have two sets of this product. The first iteration of this product , uwmic10 (using the 600mhz spectrum) which is still legal in my country and I love this kit. But I didn’t get the xlr transmitter (Instead I have the Saramonic xlr recorder…same look/design). So I decided to get the black version so I can get the xlr transmitter, and experiencing what you describe. It is atrocious. Interestingly enough, the regular transmitter is not too bad, but the xlr is unusable which is disappointing since I have such a good experience with the first ever version. …And to add ..had a job the other day and the client seemed to have dropped the xlr transmitter (heard the thump, but did not actually see and nothing was said, so can’t confirm), but when I got home, the xlr transmitter screen only displays half the info across all menus. So much for ruggedness. Anyways, keep up the good work.

[@kenyontech]

Hi, I was looking at this kit but now I'm hesitant. Do you have any other recommendations based on experience . that might be around this budget or a little higher but better as far reliability. Thanks

[@GarCorStudio]

@@kenyontech Hi, I have since purchased the newer UWMIC9s which is awesome. I have both versions now (UWMIC9 - black edition & UWMIC9s). I actively use both heavily in productions and non have let me down except for the XLR transmitter piece. I love using the S series for streaming because of how great the internal battery lasts. And I use the regular UWMIC9 for interviews and controlled environment because of the flexibility to change channels for best reception and strength of the signals. So I would not feel discouraged or deterred from going with this brand at all. And they even have a newer model, the UWMIC9s mini and I can definitely vouch for the "s" series. they have not let me down.

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[@johnmellor932]

I've used mine on many productions over the last 3 years and have stood up well. The biggest down side is their plug in power. At only 1.79v (I took the back off and measured the transistor that sends bias voltage to the mic with a multimeter) this is significant because it means you can't upgrade to more expensive pro lav mics. Most semi pro and pro radio body packs supply 5v or more in case you want to buy nicer lavs. Saramonic have locked the customer to using their crappy lavs. I bought some Countryman lavs to use with my Saramonic and they sound trash. because they are underpowered.

[@SolarFlightPro]

That's VERY interesting. I believe I was using their lavs for most of my initial experiences with them - then I used a sennheiser MKE-2 Lav when I bought my sennheiser kit to replace these. I had the same dropout issue with both, though, and the XLR transmitter is definitely overdriving the NTG-3.

[@kekeslider]

What an awesome video. You shared a lot of useful info for anyone who's trying to improve their audio. I will be staying far away from this lav set!

[@PVCLime]

The black label is really good! A sennheiser does not seem lika e good deal compared to the black labeled. I have huset sennheisers and shures before. Im really happy with the black labeled ones. :)

[@SolarFlightPro]

I'm glad the black label ones have worked for you! I can't say the Sennheisers are a "good deal", necessarily, but they've been very reliable for us and that's worth its weight in gold when I'm doing client work.

[@MAGEtvPTB]

...I bought my wireless set piecemeal so I have yellow border and black border elements to the kit. You are the only one to shed light on the difference...

[@Mike-xw4gm]

Can I record 2 track one for each person?

[@SolarFlightPro]

The receiver (when set to stereo) will send out input one to the left channel and input 2 to the right channel on your camera/recorder. It will be dependent on your recorder if you can split those onto separate tracks, but they will be panned completely away from each other.

[@gonzalomorenocl]

I have this kit. The stereo mode stopped working. Now just adds noise, but channels work exactly as mono, just mixed. Add that to the noise, the over modulation and the cutouts, it works like shit

[@SolarFlightPro]

@@gonzalomorenocl sorry to hear that man. I'd say contact support, but they might just ask you how long you've had it and say "what did you expect at this price?" like they did with me haha.

[@yesayadanu]

@@SolarFlightPro that response is the worst answer one can get. to be honest, I lost my trust in Saramonic. I can understand if the price is like random brand from china, 10-20$ cheap stuff. but we're talking about hundreds of dollars here. that answer is unacceptable. as if Saramonic is just a company that sells random quality product with mid-range price. That's even worse than that random product from china. they make us feels that the brand Saramonic is not dependable because of it's price. they said it themselves.

[@SolarFlightPro]

@@yesayadanu I can't speak about all of their products, since I've only tried these, but I can say that I had a similar feeling. They basically told me that if I wanted more reliability, I'd need to look at something else. I lost a few hundred bucks on these reselling them, and it was a frustrating experience all around.

[@AlexTabachnyy]

I tried the newer system and only the bodypack transmitter has the attenuation option. Even with that option the “S” sounds terrible. I personally think that the hardware is very nice and capable, however the software was written by drunk developers. Too many illogical things. From Menu order to button functions on the camera plug-on xlr receiver. As much as I love the hardware I’ll be returning my system just because it has unacceptable mistakes in the software. Thank you for your video.

[@djvincon]

Soooo... i dont want to get you buying more stuff... but could you test the black ones 😁

[@SolarFlightPro]

Haha if enough people express interest, maybe! I've got my Sennheiser kit I'm working on a full review of at the moment. I'd need to rent the black Saramonics kit to do a review, but the upgraded packs won't fix the boom mic issue since they never updated that transmitter. (I do have some wireless video transmitter reviews coming out tomorrow, so hopefully you'll enjoy those!)

[@djvincon]

@@SolarFlightPro Thanks for the reply! Subbed right away! Im in dire need for a wireless audio kit for mic'ing up a car. the dual TX would give me more flexibility on were to put the mics, instead of running 10ft xlr's to a central mutitrack recorder.

[@SolarFlightPro]

@@djvincon thanks for subscribing, that's very kind of you! I liked a lot about the saramonics, and the black label version does have that input gain adjustment that would probably fix my major gripe with the system. I may not be able to get to it myself for a bit, but I'd feel comfortable saying they're probably worth trying! (Anything's a rental if you send it back soon enough)

[@Pteroplankton]

I'm using UwMic9 with yellow border and I still have the Mic Sensitivity option :) So it's even more confusing than just border color :) But I experienced this signal dropouts you were talking about. But in my case usually changing the channels so A was quite far away from B helped.

[@SolarFlightPro]

Well, blow me down... There's another twist in the tale. I tried to separate my channels on the day I was having drop outs (shown in the video) but it didn't solve the issues for me. I'm glad that it's working better for you! I've been mostly happy with my new Sennheiser kit, but in time I know I'll be going to the lectrosonics camp. That won't be for quite a bit though, they are EXPENSIVE.

[@LordZero9253]

I've been hearing so many good reviews and very little bad reviews on this product that it made it hard for me to decide. With this, now im sure I wanna get a boom or a Sennheiser lav

[@SolarFlightPro]

I always suggest getting a boom first! Our NTG-3 served us very well for 5 years or so before we ever had a wireless lav system. I'm currently working on reviewing my Sennheiser G4 500 series, so hopefully I can get that out quick enough that it's helpful to you as well!

[@firstlastfilm]

I have used these inside offices for years but was just filming outside Kings Cross Station. The dropouts rendered this kit unusable. I tried all of the 'hunt for cleanest channel', settings, to no avail. I have one TX which is the black type, the sound is way tinnier. It feels less punchy and useable. I need a better pack. I am probably going to go for he G4s.

[@SolarFlightPro]

I got rid of these right after the review, I actually ended up getting the G4s. I've actually found myself using the Rode Wireless Go II more often than my Sennheiser kit because it's quicker to set up. Those Wireless Pro kit would be great for if you only use two mics, with that 32bit float internal backup. It's a way to save at least a thousand dollars over a full Sennheiser kit, assuming you're getting the option with the boom mic transmitter as well. At this point, with all the developments in the market, I've definitely just written off Saramonic almost entirely.

[@hbproductions1917]

Thank you i have the same Problem

[@SolarFlightPro]

I hope this helped you figure out what you need to do!

[@semilumi]

Thanks for the video. Super useful information and examples. There seems to now be a even newer version again of the kit called Uwmic9S, which seems to have some cool new features, such as detachable antennas, built-in batteries, separate outputs on the receiver.

[@TimSahlberg]

I have the exact same problem and tomorrow I buy another brand

[@Boz1211111]

garry honest, also yeah after using this system i can tell you its only useful if i HAVE TO be live, any other instance its much better to use recorders that i have to sync in post

[@ScottSullivanTV]

What ever happened to MISMANAGED?

[@SolarFlightPro]

It's not dead, it's just got some audio stuff we're working through in between paying the bills. It's a whole thing. :(

[@Ootini4]

What are you Gerald Undone?? 😉

[@SolarFlightPro]

Ha! The light was supposed to be blue, it just looks more purple than it does to the eye!

[@user-tf4tv9bj4f]

Had two sets of these, both went faulty. Very poor quality.

[@marfigue777]

Go hollyland m1

[@Bikalakat]

Fffuck.... I bought two sets used, I never ever imagined that you cant set gain at the input. What the fuck, why to be able to set rf power, when you cant match input to the mic (or other source as a matter affect). What a shitshow, too bad I didn't do my research...

[@chicojuanito2]

NOPE. wont be buying this gear. I hired another cinematographer with these mics i had problem with intermittence as well. i need simple gear that just plain works. i dont have time to trouble shoot anything.