Animated AI Masks in Mocha Pro 2025 - Object Brush & Matte Assist ML [Boris FX]

[@cg.man_aka_kevin]

This is an AI thing that is really important and useful! I'm sure even though there's a job that only for roto or masking, sometimes it's frustrating for 80% because you know it's manual. So with automatic tools like with AI, it's so satisfying seeing things going on in just couple of minutes than hours or days to do a couple seconds of footage!

[@BorisFXco]

It's a great tool for speeding up your workflow, and has a big impact however you're using Mocha.

[@AaliDGr8]

​@BorisFXco our main question is wth mocha developer teams are sleeping and still did not drag artificial intelligence power into mocha system when all world is now driving into ai everywhere 😮

[@TheSergeyJW]

Incredible update! It's going to save me so much time on my current project!

[@BorisFXco]

That's the goal. Glad you like it!

[@agashakash7650]

Great update for current vfx industry!

[@BorisFXco]

Thanks for great comment. It's appreciated.

[@Shebbe2]

Already used it in a production where I needed holdouts of 3 characters walking in front of a graphic. It was incredibly fast and easy for offline quality! Great update. One thing I realized is that even though the matte is 'rendered' from the plugin into AE, you will still need Preserve Frame Rate checked on the comp if you plan to do time remap/speed changes outside of it!

[@BorisFXco]

Great tip. Thanks for sharing!

[@dddharmesh]

Beautiful... It is great how the longer work will be fast now

[@BorisFXco]

Thank you. That's our main goal - to make the whole process smoother and faster.

[@beMOTIONdESIGN]

Wow! Extremely useful and powerful!

[@HoomanBhr]

Great job . Love these AI updates

[@lucho3612]

waiting for the camera track tutorial with this metod! keep up the best ae plugin

[@BorisFXco]

More in-depth tutorials coming. Have you seen this one? borisfx.com/videos/mocha-pro-2025-solve-moving-objects-in-3d-space/

[@Mohim_Mohim]

Wonderful Update...

[@BorisFXco]

Thanks so much!

[@Terry_Raphala]

this is the big improvement

[@GarethOwenFilmGOwen]

This is insane....😮

[@markanderson7885]

Matt, will this be added to the mocha options in BCC effects, or is it only for the full Mocha Program?

[@BorisFXco]

At the moment it is only for Mocha Pro. I've passed on your feature request to the team though.

[@anglereserve]

This looks handy. I've been doing quick GMattes in Fusion with Magic Mask for use in Nuke and now I can use this directly with the OFX. Is this built on Samurai?

[@BorisFXco]

Should be much easier to have everything in one place without the need to render and media manage. I'm not sure what the underlying tech is, I'll reach out to our ML team.

[@Cola-42]

I wanted to try out Silhouette for a very long time. Do I still need to? I know it probably has more features, and it's procedural. However, I think it's either this for simple tasks or just go to Nuke for full control.

[@BorisFXco]

It really depends on what you need to do. If you want complete control over roto and mask creation then there really is no better option than Silhouette. We offer a free trial of Silhouette, it's worth exploring.

[@MagomedBaymurzaev]

I couldn't get that many vertices on my mask. How to do it?

[@BorisFXco]

The number of vertices is dependent on the complexity of the shape, but you can add more points manually. Use the Pick tool and hold down the Ctrl / Cmd key to add or remove more points along the spline.

[@sajjadsaleem861]

Thanks Tom Hanks. Those AE masks created in the end was sad ending, what if we right click on the footage layer and convert layer to mask? Ae creates mask from alpha as far as i know, Would that work?

[@BorisFXco]

I'm not sure you can convert any layer in AE to a mask. I thought that was only shape and text layers. I may be wrong, and then that would be an interesting workflow to try.

[@sajjadsaleem861]

@@BorisFXco Hy, So i just tested it and it works. When you hit "apply matte" on mocha. Just select the layer and go to Layer tab on top and select "auto trace" Check "Work area" so you'll get the animated AE mask

[@BorisFXco]

That's great. I forgot about Auto Trace.

[@euginejcjoy]

hi Ben, I tried a new product on AE, it works like in your video, but in Adobe Premiere the new function refuses to work, only the old masks work, tell me, when will the new functions work just as well in Adobe Premiere?

[@BorisFXco]

Hi, thanks for the question. It should work in Premiere Pro just as it does in After Effects. But... if you have a long clip and you trim it, you should nest it before applying Mocha Pro. It will make the results faster to render and more consistent. Hope that helps. If you're still having problems then please contact Support : support.borisfx.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=8862260885901

[@ripvanmarlowe]

What's the minimum Mac OS version needed for this? We are stuck on Monterey due to 2013 MacPros.

[@BorisFXco]

Machine Learning Plugins (ML) require an Apple silicon integrated GPU with macOS Monterey (12.0) and above. We have set a minimum OS of Monterey 12.7.6. Hope this helps. If an appropriate GPU is not available, ML plug-ins can run on the CPU with significantly degraded performance.

[@muscle__rr]

This is exactly like Davinci Resolve magic mask right? please correct me if I'm wrong. I would also love to see a comparison between the two. Thank you

[@BorisFXco]

They have similar goals, but there are differences in how they operate and the types of results you might expect.

[@zababury]

Powerfull

[@babyave]

why do i keep getting an Matte ML error everytime I try this. On very simple clips too

[@BorisFXco]

This could be a hardware or GPU driver issue. Could you contact Support with more information about your system please : support.borisfx.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=8862260885901

Will awesome stuff like this eventually come to Syntheyes as well?

[@BorisFXco]

Sorry, we can't talk about any future unannounced developments in a public forum. It sounds like that would be a good idea.

[@CoreyMartinez-h4j]

Does this tool need to be used with REC709 footage? How should you tag the footage? Is it better with MOVs? I keep getting horrible results.

[@BorisFXco]

The format of the footage shouldn't make a difference, but the colorspace will. Think of it like a keyer. Keying in the wrong colorspace will never give the best results. You can change the working colorspace inside View > Viewer Preferences. It doesn't have to be Rec.709. If you're working in the plugin this should be picked up automatically from the host. If you're still having trouble please join our forums, Discord channel or contact Support. forum.borisfx.com/ , www.borisfxdiscord.com/ , or support.borisfx.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=8862260885901

[@a.d.d.theater8023]

ok..have a masking question...suppose, lets pretend on a layer you have like 3 masks.. A, B, and C...and they all overlap each other... Is there an easy way to chose mask B that overlaps A and C..like in 3d there is "island select" and it will select only those points connected. I click/select roto B and I can now manipulate its rotation or whatever..with out having to select every single point in that mask (accidently selecting a point in mask A or C)

[@BorisFXco]

There's currently no island select, but that is an excellent idea. One way to do this at the moment is to lock masks A and C. Or if you want all of mask B, you can simply right-click and Spline > Select All in Spline. I will definitely pass on the "island select" idea. I really like that.

[@a.d.d.theater8023]

@@BorisFXco you can lock masks on the same layer??? I'm not talkign about ABC mates are separate Layers..they are all on ONE layer...

[@BorisFXco]

Oh, I understand now. You can right-click on any spline in the layer and choose Selection > Select All in Spline. Consider though whether it is better to have one layer with everything in, or multiple layers connected to one main track. That's often a more efficient way to do it.

[@a.d.d.theater8023]

@@BorisFXco I know..I attempt to keep one layer per object..like a human..one layer is the hand with all the fingers..which my consist of multiple rotos for th at one layer. another is face or whatever.

[@CoreyMartinez-h4j]

I'm getting horrible results when I click on my footage. Is there certain colorspaces or formatting needed before using this tool?

[@BorisFXco]

Come over to the main forum and post some details of what is going on and we'll see how we can help: forum.borisfx.com/c/mochapro/

[@Utsab_Giri]

How well does it work with hair edges? Thank you!

[@hafizmiau]

looks like no any other tracker does

[@BorisFXco]

It should give a consistent result, but it will not be good enough for fine hair details. It really is meant for tasks where precision mattes are not necessary, like garbage masking, or fast object selection.

[@Utsab_Giri]

@@BorisFXco Thank you!

[@Axxonal]

Please Ben I can't figure out the remove way....

[@BorisFXco]

Great question. Basically, you work with Remove in the way you normally would. We need a tracked background and a matte foreground. I would create the foreground matte first using Object Brush and Matte Assist ML. Add a bit of dilation to that matte too, as it will create a better end result. Track the background to get the correct motion of that. You can use the matte you created with Matte Assist as a garbage mask. Then go into Remove. Have the foreground object you want to remove on top and marked with the cog. And hit render. Here's the basic layout for Remove in Exercise 19a : borisfx.com/free-training/mocha-essentials/ Hope that helps. Join us on the forum or Discord channel if you feel like it too. forum.borisfx.com/ and www.borisfxdiscord.com/

[@Axxonal]

Thanks Ben for your explanation . To grab the Matte Clip ML on the second layer the BG you use the layer properties > Matte Clip ?

[@Amr_Cinema]

I like this tool I will use it in nuke plus copy cat

[@nekola203]

is this comparable to Davinci's magic mask?

[@BorisFXco]

They have similar goals, but there are differences in how they operate and the types of results you might expect.

[@daabomb114]

If only we could get good hair results with this tool...

[@BorisFXco]

Thanks for the comment. This tool isn't designed for highly detailed mattes like hair, but really to serve as a way of improving everything else you do in Mocha. I will pass your comment on to the Mocha team.

[@RobertSimmonsAirship]

So Mocha has rotobrush now

[@BorisFXco]

Similar goals but very different implementations and results.

[@Jmatad21]

If you are taking graphics for your career, good luck.

[@motopodbor]

Есть ли mocha pro на русском языке?

[@BorisFXco]

No, Mocha Pro only has an English language UI currently.

[@mostafaelgammal]

it create too many pins and that will make the workflow slow on low machine on in heavy shots with Cinematic cameras why the whole system not consider something like Sam 2 meta model based on Zmap to read the subject instead this system it's good but poor in some situations when objects became in tight locations like interior of car for example but you can keep it as option it help a lot for sure with antiflicker cleaner ! after all I like the update but I still feel it's old-school world run faster than this now

[@enjuto4]

A ver, con un plano súper preparado, pues algo hará, pero esto en el mundo real, no funciona :(

[@BorisFXco]

If you're having problems with it, please contact Support and they will be happy to help you out : support.borisfx.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

[@enjuto4]

​@@BorisFXco Yes, my problem is that it only rotoscopes a shot without any kind of motion blur and ideal lighting conditions. When faced with a shot with a minimum of blur or any dark, it does not work :( BUT, it's great for the initial mask :)

[@BorisFXco]

We're really thinking of this for garbage mattes and tasks that don't need a perfect level of accuracy. It's not going to roto perfectly for you. Think of it more like a keyer rather than traditional rotoscoping.

[@enjuto4]

@@BorisFXco Thank you for take your time to answer me it really has some usage.