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Got BOAT Prop PROBLEMS? Cavitation Vs. Ventilation!!!

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@BornAgainBoating
@BornAgainBoating Жыл бұрын
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@kevinrenn9123
@kevinrenn9123 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I had seen this video about 15 years ago. I couldn't figure out why my jet ski started porpoising. Eventually I was figured out some of the mounting screws on the front intake grate had worked loose causing the intake grate to drop down during operation, dragging in the water and creating ventilation. A couple new screws and some locktite made it a cheap fix but it scared me for while as a couple mechanics looked at it and couldn't figure it out. I can attest, your video is very informative and useful and will make someones life easier when they understand what is going on with their craft
@roguewarr4662
@roguewarr4662 3 жыл бұрын
I am a older boater and I still keep learning things about boating from this channel ,I think I need a new prop.
@hernanmarin3904
@hernanmarin3904 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video!!! I've been boating for 13 years now and have never thought about it until I saw your video. I'll be inspecting my prop often. Again, Thanks!
@TheJoeScan
@TheJoeScan 2 жыл бұрын
Beginning of 2022 summer boat sat in the water for a month before I got to use it. Even with a freshly painted anti-fouling drive and props I had tons of growth. The barnacles and other growths limited the boat to 2800 RPM only. I was also running hot as the barncles made their way into thie water inlet. Took the boat out of the water took the drive off cleaned everything off prep and repainted and fixed all my issues.
@pjimmbojimmbo1990
@pjimmbojimmbo1990 3 жыл бұрын
Good Video, One of the Better Explanations of Cavitation. 46 yrs ago I noticed the Paint and later the Metal on our Boat's Prop burning away, right at the Front Blade where the Blade Met the Hub. I was a Teen at the Time but I had read about Cavitation Burn, and figured that was was it was. It was one of the Old OMC V4s with an Itty Bitty Gearcase with Props that were smaller than the Props they put on the their 40hp, and 33hp engines. Almost no Gear Reduction in the Gear Case; 23:20. at those rotational speeds I'm certain the Blades had serious Cavitation Trails behind them. in 1969, OMC upgraded their Gearcases, and Prop Designs and were Equal to what Mercury had been using for about a Decade
@MF11283
@MF11283 3 жыл бұрын
I like the demonstration of the prop on a rope going up and down. Crude simple but very effective to show how good these things lock into the water
@stevedavis2391
@stevedavis2391 3 жыл бұрын
I have a boat with a prop and one without. The one with the prop goes faster.
@thomascee
@thomascee 3 жыл бұрын
This guy wins the prize
@longwalkoffshortpeer
@longwalkoffshortpeer 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t say.
@camtheman559
@camtheman559 2 жыл бұрын
I find that to be a based fact!
@tripletaps7892
@tripletaps7892 Жыл бұрын
Lucky you 😂, mine comes with something like a stick/rod with a slab like thing at the end. Been beating the water with it but it never goes any faster. Sorry for the late reply, been off grid since COVID emerged.
@PerJonsson.
@PerJonsson. Ай бұрын
I put my boat engine upside down so I have a hovercraft design
@c.shoefish
@c.shoefish 3 жыл бұрын
Searched your channel a while back to help me figure out issues with my boat...Found a hook in my hull which was causing the bow to ride really low above 3/4 throttle, and I couldn't correct for it because when I would trim up, the prop would ventilate and become worse... thankfully I have an aluminum boat and was able to reshape the metal so the hook is about 90% gone and now I can run wide open, full RPMs with no issues...about to install setback/jackplate to get my engine in some cleaner water to really improve the performance...can you do a video explaining how setback effects boats? Your channel has helped me tremendously. Keep it up.
@elydoug
@elydoug 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the research and then giving it to us. I had just bought a Suzuki DF200A for my Grady White Escape 209. I did my own installation. I mounted it according to the information that I had gleaned off of the internet and initially it ran very well. The problem was that once I started to turn, it ventilated. I couldnt correct with trim. I would straighten it out and the speed would increase nicely and the fuel economy would go up accordingly. But those turns. I pulled the boat and dropped it down 2 holes on the mounting bracket. The next test showed that I had found the sweet spot. The boat lost about 2 mph in top end but it would keep pushing in clean water throughout the turns.
@barney2001
@barney2001 3 жыл бұрын
we usually trim the outboard down when turning sharply, usually with water skiers to prevent cavitation
@elianselmi4099
@elianselmi4099 3 жыл бұрын
in that case, it is to prevent ventilation of the prop! not cavitation :-)
@NearbyCactus
@NearbyCactus 3 жыл бұрын
My first boat back in the 80's suffered from ventilation because the outboard was too short for the transom. It would rev up when I turned unless I did so very slowly. I ended up putting a different outboard on it.
@Iwilldestroyyoo
@Iwilldestroyyoo 3 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly fascinating, and I don’t even own a boat. But outboard motors always fascinated me, it’s a marvelous invention.
@SeansLittleBayofHorrors
@SeansLittleBayofHorrors 3 жыл бұрын
Now we need Destin from Smarter Everyday to make a video explaining cavitation with a slow motion camera.
@slickvic7987
@slickvic7987 3 жыл бұрын
Yo Sean I have a friend with the same name as you he just got drafted to the NFL playing for NY Jets
@SeansLittleBayofHorrors
@SeansLittleBayofHorrors 3 жыл бұрын
@@slickvic7987 no sh!t? That's cool.
@OVER-bENGINEERED
@OVER-bENGINEERED 2 жыл бұрын
Or the slowmo guys!
@jacob476
@jacob476 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like he has already covered it during his nuclear sub series
@tomcarter4617
@tomcarter4617 2 жыл бұрын
I intentionally raised the height of the outboard on my fishing boat. I was set so low that I had a spray of water back into the boat. Now with it properly installed I can get ventilation only when on a very sharp turn, I have to be trying to do this to make it happen. However the installation of the jack-plate and raising the outboard has paid off in more speed, better fuel economy,and no water spraying back into the boat.
@Jackspratcouldeatnofat
@Jackspratcouldeatnofat 8 күн бұрын
Propping a boat just right is really a tricky business. You watch videos, use prop calculation formulas and stuff like that but that really just provides a starting point about which prop to try. I adjust boat load balance, change props, vary the engine height, put on a hydrofoil and keep running the boat at my best cruising speed in choppy seas until it feel right and mpg are good. Also check that the engine can attain full rpm at WOT to prevent engine labouring which shortens its life. When the boat runs right I dont know exactly why it runs right, it was the product of a little theory and science and a lot of trail and error. It helps a lot if you have a prop shop that lets you try out props and change them without having to buy a bunch of props to find the right setup. Then when you buy another boat you can do it all again, if you're a prop perfectionist that is.
@csalinas-sf6jg
@csalinas-sf6jg 2 жыл бұрын
BAB University! thanks for all the content. I am currently searching for a new aluminum frame trailer for my boat, a Nitro Bay 2200. I think a great video you can do is on how to size the correct trailer for boats. The trailer my boat has is not fitted for it, it only works. So when I am loading it I have to be really careful so that I don't damage the hull. It takes me about 15 min to get everything right before I can leave the lake. I'm sure I shouldn't be using it but I've had it for 1 year and only have used it 5 times because I usually dont have time lol. IOWs, the urge to go fishing beats me. Thank you for all the content you provide bud! 👍
@retireeslife4013
@retireeslife4013 3 жыл бұрын
I've had this issue. Usually we just slow down and drop the trim. Great video
@BornAgainBoating
@BornAgainBoating 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍
@8180634
@8180634 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this, people using the term cavitation to describe ventilation has been my pet peeve of mine for a long time!
@Jpgundarun
@Jpgundarun 6 ай бұрын
I'm experiencing Ventilation at the moment with my Tinny after raising the motor up at the back, but I was calling it Cavitation until I learned the difference. LOL!
@revelationdisciples2037
@revelationdisciples2037 3 жыл бұрын
I Was having the ventilation issue P.O had motor bolted as high as it would go, dropped down one hole and gained 300 rpm. Stopped having that slipping feeling. Great video Thanks
@crashalexander7232
@crashalexander7232 Жыл бұрын
you did not gain 300 rpm you lowered it 300 rpm ....lol
@Patriot-up2td
@Patriot-up2td 3 жыл бұрын
Buy and mount an SE Sport 300 hydrofoil. Best upgrade you’ll ever do! All these issues will completely go away. Check out reviews on it. 15 years running and still 100% satisfied!!!
@hardrockminer-50
@hardrockminer-50 2 жыл бұрын
We have a pontoon boat with 150 hp Mercury. It will periodically ventilate . It seems like we get a lot of "splash" back fhere when it does that and it will do it even when engine is trimmed all the way down. I have to throttle down and thrn it works OK. Happens most often at about half throttle.
@markpeiffer3882
@markpeiffer3882 3 жыл бұрын
Man you're incredible. Every issue you discuss is so educational truely amazing how great job you do explaining issues
@BornAgainBoating
@BornAgainBoating 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@dedomv11
@dedomv11 Ай бұрын
I noticed cavitation on my ski boat. I get vibrations and the pitch of the engine changes. I also see the little implosions on the leading edge of my rudder. I noticed the cavitation happening when I start to ride on some light crests. Ski boats are just not made for rough water.
@birda40
@birda40 2 жыл бұрын
A couple months ago I purchased a 2004 Nitro 929 cdx , when the old owner took me out on the lake he tried to explain to back off at a certain point and hit the throttle again. I tried to recreate his throttling to get it up on plane , took me for ever. I could hear and feel the prop spin but not bite for the hole shot. He suggested dropping the mount one more hole, I just couldn't understand a almost 20 year old boat and no one had done this as yet. I noticed 3 holes at the back of the prop and remembered an article I had read. One hole had a rubber grommet with the center open, I had read some thing about a Merc Tempest design and grommets. I called a Marina explained the spin , they told me to stop by for some more grommets it's getting to much air. I placed two that fully closed the other holes. The 225 horse just bucked an took off like a bat outta heck. It has worked so far , a 12 dollar fix... I hope is all.
@PFLEONARDI0906
@PFLEONARDI0906 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video...I just went over this 3 weeks ago with a group of 25...cavitation only comes off the back side of the prop blades...it will boil the water...ABYC has an excellent course on props....
@southernprojectsyt6340
@southernprojectsyt6340 3 жыл бұрын
from what i just witnessed your statement of cavitation only coming off of the back side of the blade is FALSE.
@regone7124
@regone7124 2 жыл бұрын
I feel this on our 38ft when it has a lot of barnacles on the hull. On a low speed there is no much affect, but when we are on a high speed the RPM will just go high and the movement of the boat was slow.
@lloydholt6511
@lloydholt6511 3 жыл бұрын
Modern stainless steel propellers can be rebuilt, repitched,, more or less cup added or taken away by a competent propellor shop usually far cheaper than purchasing a new stainless steel prop. Unless the pitch selection is grossly ( more than 2-3 degrees) out of parameter. Aluminum propellers are usually cheaper to replace but, it would still not hurt to do a little talking to a repair facility before making the decision to replace a propeller. A good quality stainless propeller for most larger engines ( 90 hp and up) usually are in the $600-900 dollar range or more depending on brand. Just an old man thinking out loud.
@danconway5338
@danconway5338 3 жыл бұрын
Props to you for another great video! 😎
@davecartmell4092
@davecartmell4092 3 жыл бұрын
Haha nice like what you did there 👏
@BornAgainBoating
@BornAgainBoating 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that
@Jpgundarun
@Jpgundarun 6 ай бұрын
Pun intended you would say. LOL!
@grancito2
@grancito2 3 жыл бұрын
My neighbour had a 23 ft very deep V boat with a 260 hp stern drive, full of fuel and 2 people with not much else, it would not take full throttle, would get to 19 knots and not plane, it got cavitation, not aeration, and vibrate really bad, we changed props but it still had the same problem. I can't remember the brand, but it was like a 1984 24 degree boat that handled really bad in waves and when someone moved from one side to the other.
@montekingen8839
@montekingen8839 2 жыл бұрын
What alot of guys don't tell you is if you drill holes in your hull it will let your boat flow straighter
@N7fisher1985
@N7fisher1985 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I just had ventilation issues on a boat I just bought. Mostly when to many people are up front and I give it the gas.
@jamesotto2495
@jamesotto2495 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video of explanation without getting too scientific 👌 small Knicks in the prop can also gather enough oxygen molecules to create bubbles before the prop thus creating a higher pressure system, therefore, Cavitation. But this video will educate most and it explains everything for the average boaty 👍
@BornAgainBoating
@BornAgainBoating 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info!
@lildeena1
@lildeena1 2 жыл бұрын
On my last outing offshore I went out fine. But was venting or cavitating on the way in. At first I thought it was sargasso weeds and cleared it a few times but then I was in clean water and it was bad all the way in. Then in the canal everything was okay. I was really confused, I am going back to the boat today and look at my gear oil, and prop conditions and the points you mention in this video, and run it again to see if I can figure this out.I decided it’s an older prop and the combination of a transducer and the prop aging and minor damage in a certain sea condition was bringing it on. Hopefully I’ll figure it out.
@Boaters_hub
@Boaters_hub 3 жыл бұрын
This video is amazing! Very informative. I was actually just browsing through boat videos and this came up. My brothers boat now that it was mentioned ether has the prop spinning on the splines or ventilation.
@alecs6492
@alecs6492 2 жыл бұрын
I work on my friends wave runner every once in a while. Trying to explain cavitation and why it’s not a good idea to start in shallow water or run it onto the beach with the motor on was a long conversion.
@JacobHetherington
@JacobHetherington 3 жыл бұрын
My boat will ventilate because of my transducer on hard turns to the left. Completely avoidable but can catch you off guard at times.
@bottomknockinbaja6092
@bottomknockinbaja6092 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh.. prop talk... the never ending discussion ! 😎
@1972mdc
@1972mdc 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Issues with prop ventilation...”weed ring” solved the problem
@dennisbest4979
@dennisbest4979 Жыл бұрын
new to me 1994 20 foot pontoon, it cavitates to me, but i think its the inner water flow of the pontoons hitting the short transume pontoon just before the motor platte. Motor is max down in the water based on the tilt trim motor,. Just hitting other boat wakes makes it rev up and slow down. It has a new direct evinrude propellar. going to check out shaft length and motor height on the transum.
@johnclemente6615
@johnclemente6615 3 жыл бұрын
Had an Evinrude 150 plastic snap ring that goes into the lower unit was missing and I was getting cavitation exhaust through in around propeller took a while to figure out a 10 dollar part keep me from moving
@fishawk90
@fishawk90 2 жыл бұрын
what a coincident i stumble on this vid. was just on the water & prop was loosing grip every 30 sec @ wot. truned out to be the bouncing from very choppy conditions.
@Fireship1
@Fireship1 3 жыл бұрын
Cavitation “burn” I always knew if you see it on your prop, it’s a telltale that something isn’t right.
@davidmarklein
@davidmarklein 2 жыл бұрын
1st day on the water with a Tracker Grizzly 1860 cc and a 90 hp merc. Getting ventilation and cavitation but at different trims and rpms. Can't plane the boat. Could it be a large transducer too close to the prop?
@crashalexander7232
@crashalexander7232 Жыл бұрын
yep and or motor is to high ..? only trim you should be using when getting on plane is full down.
@alwhitesell4023
@alwhitesell4023 3 жыл бұрын
Had this problem when I went from a three blade to a four blade prop, when pulling a tube on a sharp turn. It would cavitate.....
@Eugene2ndW
@Eugene2ndW 3 жыл бұрын
Cavitation does not generate air bubbles. It is vaporized water. They pop when water pressure increased and the vapor condenses back to liquid.
@MapSpawn
@MapSpawn 3 жыл бұрын
pardon me? lol your argument is self defeating. The vaporization of water produces an air bubble. Same concept happens in your hand when you stretch your joints apart, the noise you hear, the "crack" is a cavitation. (nitrogen)
@woodylinder338
@woodylinder338 3 жыл бұрын
@@MapSpawn Go take a science class. On a large scale, try breathing that cavitated "air" bubble. You will drown! It is actually saturated steam when it flashes.
@BadFoodBlog
@BadFoodBlog 4 ай бұрын
Cavitation is cause by pulling a vacuum in the water NOT boiling. Any prop or even the hull moving though the water fast enough will cause pulling a vacuum, you can do this by slamming the top of a glass water bottle, the cavitation will be cause by the bottle moving away fast enough from the water. (also the water filling the vacuum causes the damage and breaks the bottle)
@jimmyjames7770
@jimmyjames7770 Жыл бұрын
The only time this happens on my boat is when I'm think I need to have. My problem remain a factor. It's a stainless steel crop the first time ever own and one of those My other 2 votes had the aluminum.
@OVER-bENGINEERED
@OVER-bENGINEERED 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video! I am driving a 24’ sterndrive bay liner cabin cruiser with a powerful 160lb thrust 48V trolling motor. It has a very long shaft and is sitting in water below the deadrise aft of the transom. The trolling motor pushes really hard and I think a combination of high thrust and low advance through wake (max speed is 3.6kn at 2400W) and lots of disorganized water flow detachment at the end of the hull in displacement mode is causing ventilation. It’s a very distinct glurp sound when it occurs.
@ferrellcat5860
@ferrellcat5860 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 1994 trophy series bayliner 2002 I have to take up a 200 yard area across a river to make a turn at full throttle. Even then it did this . It takes the boat over 100 yards to plain out . I have never owned a boat that stands up so far in the front and takes so long to plain out . I think there is something wrong with the power of the motor . It's like it's worn out but I was told it has 130 lbs of compression on each cylinder. I hope to figure these things out soon , just got the boat a week ago .
@joerubenzer6085
@joerubenzer6085 Жыл бұрын
So I'm having ventilation troubles now and I think you just solved it. I have big gap Infront of prop and gases are coming out there. I'll fix that and try it.
@christojvvuuren8163
@christojvvuuren8163 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad I stumbled upon this interesting video, just a pity you didn't complete it. IE How to fix problems - I have a huge problem with ventilation and, not cavitation as I just learned. It is really bad, I suspect that the motor is mounted too high. Where can I find more info on how high the anti-ventilation plate must be from the bottom of the hull? I mounted rubber/plastic skimmers on the ventilation plate but this seems to make it even worse as it lifts the motor up out of the water, the prop then literally runs just underneath the surface of the water level. The second problem that may be related to this is when I pull away the nose of the boat wants to lift up. I have an Infanta 6,5m rubber duct with a 75Hp Honda marine motor on. The boat was a factory build Infanta by Honda Knysna, South Africa.
@robertgordien8385
@robertgordien8385 2 жыл бұрын
I think you described exactly what may be happening with mine, sometimes when circling the lake I feel loss of power and vibration through out the pontoon and when I ese off the throttle it goes away? I have noticed a few nicks on my prop but the local mechanic told me it is fine.
@jmc3367
@jmc3367 Жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff.....having a ventilation prob, engine kept having a short rev burst every once in a while.... .scared me to death, now i know, so thank you.
@Tfam305
@Tfam305 5 ай бұрын
Listen to what he says about the ring between the gear case and the prop. I just bought a boat that should be going almost 40 miles an hour and is only going 31 at 6200 RPMs due to the propeller bore sleeve not being there. Most outboards come with these from factory. It’s a $5 part that makes all the difference
@dirttdude
@dirttdude 3 жыл бұрын
yes, i see it every day... i get these customers that think I'm trying to rip them off when i recommend a prop repair or replacement.... the boat moves when they put it in gear, obviously I'm full of shit.
@colibricreaky7ry746
@colibricreaky7ry746 2 жыл бұрын
Technically sound information. Most people do not know the huge difference between cavitation and ventilation. Cavitation in liquids is the formation of tiny voids of the gas phase of the liquid suspended in the liquid itself. This phenomenon is commonly called "boiling". Boiling water "bubbles" on the surface of your prop seems ridiculous, right? Where's the heat source? Boiling is a pressure difference phenomenon, not a heat phenomenon. The tiny, extremely short lived "boiling water bubbles" created by the propeller are formed from massive local pressure differences in front of and behind the prop. Water pumps are subject to the same cavitation phenomenon. Maintenance on big ship propellers (also called screws) is mainly a fight against cavitation damage on the screw. Another thing most don't know is that ultrasonic cleaning is actually using high frequency transducers to form cavitation "bubble sites" on the object to be cleaned in the tank. In all cases, these little bubbles of low pressure water vapor violently implode on themselves as the trapped vapor condenses back to a liquid. This can do severe damage over time. Everyday examples: Cavitation is boiling. Ventilation is like putting a straw into a glass of water and using the air in your lungs to blow air bubbles into the water.
@daandegeyter15
@daandegeyter15 3 жыл бұрын
The air bubbles you mentioned are actually water vapour bubbles,as a result of the boiling water because of the low pressure. It is not possible for air to reach there. The fast cutting of the prop makes a cavity in the water inducing the mentioned effect therefore the phenomenon is named cavitation.
@OVER-bENGINEERED
@OVER-bENGINEERED 2 жыл бұрын
I also wanted to add that steam bubbles don’t pop, they condense back into water. Steam at atmospheric pressure takes up 1700x the volume that water does so you can imagine the violent nature of forming and collapsing!
@ryandimotta1
@ryandimotta1 3 жыл бұрын
I have twin 200 ox66 starboard engine has cavitation at over 35mph in a chop and have to stop boat to regain grip it will not regain grip unless boat is stopped
@Jpgundarun
@Jpgundarun 6 ай бұрын
VERY INTERESTING! I just put a riser bracket on the back of my 11' tinny so the Cavitation Plate on my 5hp outboard is level with the back of the boat. It flies when on plane with the weight distributed in the boat properly BUT Ventilates when you try to turn. Seeing this Video where you say any obstruction may cause Air bubbles has made me realise I didn't take into consideration the Rib that runs down the centre of the boat hull underneath. The plate is level with the flat of the hull but higher than the Rib down the centre. I think when I turn Im getting air off the Rib that makes the motor ventilate.
@BornAgainBoating
@BornAgainBoating 6 ай бұрын
Very possible :)
@malicione0three26
@malicione0three26 3 жыл бұрын
Yes 9.9 Johnson with flat bottom boat ... we started out from dock ...then when I throttled up boat barley moved noticed lots of bubbles trailing in wake was like something was holding us back ... this was on a power plant lake where the water temperature was probably 75° or higher I just thought maybe it was the temperature of the water that was the cause of that reaction it never happened to me before on other lakes???
@thomaslindroos1667
@thomaslindroos1667 Жыл бұрын
Boiling air bubbles? Cavitation is a partial vacuum. the fact that we are beyond the boiling point of water in this low pressure state is irrelevant in my opinion but I can be wrong on that last point
@karlvollmer273
@karlvollmer273 3 жыл бұрын
That explains a lot when looking at props. Thx
@04Corolla
@04Corolla 11 ай бұрын
The props ony my 16' skiff and 10ft jon boat cavitate, and my 14ft jon boat ventilates due to damage to the lower unit, im fixing that in a few minutes. Im going to run the cavitating props until I get problems that interfere with my boating. I love my omc 6hp
@ChiefCabioch
@ChiefCabioch 3 жыл бұрын
That RED arrow is pointing to Engine Exhaust, not Blade cavitation, did you guys fail outboards 101?
@tomgrootjr
@tomgrootjr 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I hit something last season that didn't cause immediate issues, but the next time we went out my RPM was high and our power/speed was low. I've changed the hub and had a few mechanics look at it. It seems like something is slipping but we cannot find the issue. I plan to look into this as a possible cause. Thanks again.
@mumbles552
@mumbles552 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom. Pull the prop and draw a line with a felt marker across the front of the hub and prop and reinstall it and try it out. After running it for a bit, pull the prop again and inspect the lines. If they are out of alignment, you'll know your hub is slipping as the marks should stay lined up.
@crashalexander7232
@crashalexander7232 Жыл бұрын
exhaust ring behind your prop is wore out.
@johnp7318
@johnp7318 2 жыл бұрын
At 5:17 you mean vapor bubbles (steam), not air bubbles. And they "implode" not explode when pressure forces those vapor bubbles to collapse back to liquid, effectively making a micro water jet. In the same way that an industrial water jet cutter can cut through metal, so do the imploding vapor bubbles when they collapse near the propeller.
@nmoran2046
@nmoran2046 3 жыл бұрын
Up here in the great lakes region cavitation most likely caused by zebra mussels on the hull That’s why for fun I wash hulls most owners are impressed with how much fuel economy they gain and top and speed with a clean hull
@gearoil24
@gearoil24 Жыл бұрын
I cannot prove but I suspect that my used boat was ventilating due to combination of aftermarket hydrofoil that curved downwards in combination with short, damaged skeg. Removed hydrofoil and fixed skeg. Back to normal.
@michaels8775
@michaels8775 3 жыл бұрын
Allways look forward to tech Tuesday's, have learned so much tysm for your time and vids
@tomtrenter3208
@tomtrenter3208 2 жыл бұрын
Cavitation does not create air bubbles...... The pressure differential between the front and back of a prop blade causes the water to boil and the bubbles are steam, not air, even at very low temps. When liquid water boils it changes from liquid state to gaseous state and expands it's volume approximately 1500 times. These bubbles have a very high energy level and if you can see high speed photography cavitation each bubble actually expands and contracts several times getting smaller each time until it looses all it's energy. Prop damage and/ or poor design will accelerate the onset of cavitation.
@antoinecamilleri7650
@antoinecamilleri7650 3 жыл бұрын
Also a money pit cos as soon as something gets "marine standard" label it shoots up in price !!!! The same, identical stainless steel items bought from ironmonger cost a fraction of the price. Not to mention the "marine" mechanics.
@scottspeck8843
@scottspeck8843 3 жыл бұрын
YES !! I had my prop stolen.off my boat and I didn't no the size that was on my outboard now my new prop.is crap and constantly blows air wish I knew were to start size wise
@ChippyOZ
@ChippyOZ 3 жыл бұрын
There is a Prop Finder option on the Solas website or you could look at an online parts catalogue that might mention the original prop size.
@scottspeck8843
@scottspeck8843 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChippyOZ oh cool thank you
@johnpike5836
@johnpike5836 3 жыл бұрын
Having a Collection of Props can serve the ultimate and entire purpose. A ski boat configuration would likely and simply call for the Generic Stock (comes with) prop. A twisted Up SS Chopper will get u up the top speed once the hull and the RPM sync. (that will never be a Hole Shot prop config) so it really depends. One thing is certain, there's a lot of Over Powered Boats out there. That, is a #1 reason for porpose. I installed a 50 gal. gas tank in the nose of a V bottom J-Craft. I got pictures of it "One Hand on the wheel" air borne and planning off of One Prop Blade. 30 foot high rooster and walking a little sideways. Oh...that was a cleaver Prop. Al cleaver is designed specifically to meet the needs of a heavy Inboard or inboard outboard. so....with all that weight in the nose to keep her balanced coupled with the lifting action of a cleaver, voila flat, raised up and flying. J-Craft bought the photo 1985. a 175 merc Heads shaved 20 th. aviation fuel. 76mph. 17 ft dual rideguide (Necessity or Mech)
@Prototheria
@Prototheria 3 жыл бұрын
What you're describing is the relationship between the center of gravity and the center of hydrodynamic pressure on the hull. Power has nothing to do with it.
@crashalexander7232
@crashalexander7232 Жыл бұрын
175 on fuel only went 76 ....shit my 2.0 140 omc on my hydrostream went 80 and that was v4 not a v6...
@johnpike5836
@johnpike5836 Жыл бұрын
@@crashalexander7232 The One that got away...Hydrostream shit yer pants 67 is the new 80 king of the porposer...lol
@andrewgreiner8066
@andrewgreiner8066 3 жыл бұрын
Sharrow prop will fix that and give better acceleration and top speed as well as fuel mileage would highly recommend getting one
@crashalexander7232
@crashalexander7232 Жыл бұрын
overpriced waste of money ...have you priced one of those props yet ...? and if you ding it up no prop repair shop will touch it.
@jayhamm34
@jayhamm34 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I had a spun hub, was getting the surge in RPM and loss of forward momentum. So I replaced the prop and hub. Old prop was a pressed in style, I switched to an RBX hub. First trip out with new prop and still wound up with surging RPM/loss of speed. It only happened at 3000+ rpm. Decrease the throttle and regain momentum and throttle back up. It would do it just going straight, so it wasn’t like turning or any other water direction changes (I.e. wake chop from passing boat) was always present…EDIT. I figured I’d include my setup.. 24’ pontoon with a 115 Evinrude. No jack plate, engine in lowest trim setting. Running a 13-7/8”17 pitch prop. One prop is SS with pressed hub other is Aluminum with RBX.
@hardrockminer-50
@hardrockminer-50 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like my issue!
@bsp0619
@bsp0619 2 жыл бұрын
@@hardrockminer-50 What was the problem/fix? Im having the exact same problem
@ericcampbell8881
@ericcampbell8881 7 ай бұрын
Ventilation yes, cavitation no, but a marina guy called it cavitation. Boat is going full throttle and suddenly sounds like prop slip and loses speed I have to back off the throttle and take off again and it won't do it again until I hit full throttle for a ways and then it does it all over again. He said toss weight in the front
@BornAgainBoating
@BornAgainBoating 7 ай бұрын
You might have a failing propeller hub
@ericcampbell8881
@ericcampbell8881 7 ай бұрын
@@BornAgainBoating Was replaced.....twice
@Wooziest
@Wooziest 3 жыл бұрын
Just gotta say there were some funky noises in this audio recording at least for me, I kept thinking I was hearing something outside and had to rewind the video.
@notsorare
@notsorare Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t understand why I was having quite violent ventilation issues on my twin hill boat I tried a hydrofoil plate but that created spray, loss of power also I finally realize that the motor should be slightly lower in the boat which is too much of a hassle so as it works fine fully down that’s where it’s staying 😢
@vaughnkeown1617
@vaughnkeown1617 2 жыл бұрын
Help… I just purchased a used 17-5 shoal cat boat, re powered it with a new 70hp Yamaha. I’m ventilating.
@zakaroonetwork777
@zakaroonetwork777 3 жыл бұрын
What is does is what it is thats why it is the way it is as it happens when it does for what it does is what it does do when it does it when its happening and whats happening is cavitation on cavitation upon witch then is what we are seeing under water is propeller cavitation as its happening with bubbles are ok as it is what is cavitation air makes bubbles.
@robadnerysdamas4118
@robadnerysdamas4118 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I really enjoy your vids. I’ve learned a few things, thank you! I’ve had some terrible ventilation on brand new Solas props when I’ve gotten into very choppy churned up water. It also happened during a rally where a lot of boats were going into a channel causing a lot of foam. But I think that’s probably normal. They otherwise run great.
@michaelbutler4961
@michaelbutler4961 3 жыл бұрын
When measuring the location cavitation plate to the bottom of the boat where should the trim of the motor be set? ie All the way down/in or should it be trimmed up some and how much?
@doncunningham3124
@doncunningham3124 2 жыл бұрын
What explains cavitation on a brand new high power boat only while it's getting on plane?
@mikehedglin3009
@mikehedglin3009 11 ай бұрын
It sounds like a venting problem it's on a pontoon with a v shaped separator under the back of the boat 20 hp Honda
@DJSbm-28
@DJSbm-28 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Aaron, my problem is when I turn too hard I get ventilation. Not sure why my anti ventilation plate rides right on top of the water when running and planed out. But when turning hard port or starboard it sucks in air. I have tried different angles of trim but no luck. Any thing you can help me with would be greatly appreciated. Another great video with all kinds of useful information. Thanks 👍😎🌴. Be safe out there.
@CaptCollier
@CaptCollier 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. A lot more to it than I thought. Thanks again for the helpful information
@dmann7004
@dmann7004 3 жыл бұрын
✔️No long drawn out Hollywood intro ✔️ No stupid annoying loud music ✔️✔️✔️No “eeehh, What’s up guys?” ✔️Informative ✔️Knowledgeable Thanks, appreciation and cudos to you!
@br223899
@br223899 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. I always get a vibration when I try to accelerate too hard or have a bunch of people on the boat. I always contributed it to cavitation, but to be honest, not really sure. It feels like the prop is trying to bite, but can’t quite get it. Like peeling out in a car. I have to slow my acceleration or reduce the load on the prop/engine.
@mattmuch1
@mattmuch1 3 жыл бұрын
Might be able to lower the prop pitch. You will lose a CPL knots but it will definitely grip better. Cheers
@doolittlegeorge
@doolittlegeorge 3 жыл бұрын
This is why there are jack plates and "trim." Point being when you "launch"(through propulsion) the bow will rise and stern will fall making for an enormous amount of stress on the transom. Anything that levels the boat("on plane") is what solves this problem which using a modern outboard motor means an engine that can create its own trim upon launch be being at the greatest depth and narrowest distance from the transom. Another way to tackle this issue is by the use of an "Armstrong bracket" which simply moves the engine(s) further back which whilst creating more stress also creates creates better trim simply by adding length to your hull. Point being there are only two speeds on a boat namely A:trolling speed(the most important) when you want a hull to naturally be on the level and B: "on plane" speed when the forward velocity is sufficient to cause your hull and motor to ride upon the surface of the water where there is less surface tension to have had need breaking apart in order dramatically reduce friction and promote stability and control.
@billygoodin5597
@billygoodin5597 3 жыл бұрын
@@doolittlegeorge Well said sir!
@br223899
@br223899 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. This particular boat is an I/O, so a jack plate or Armstrong bracket wouldn’t work. (Both of which I had to google by the way) However, this sounds like something a set of trim tabs could help by pushing the haul on plane faster and with less effort?
@Dbars19
@Dbars19 3 жыл бұрын
Ill a small bend in the prop make your motor shake? i have a 9.9 that shakes
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that can make basically be unbalanced
@techrfun
@techrfun 3 жыл бұрын
When running in the ocean the waves lift my skiff and occasionally my prop ventilates and I lose forward momentum. Remember my boat is a Simmons, it has a well for the outboard and there is flotation beside and aft of the motor.
@TIMEtoRIDE900
@TIMEtoRIDE900 3 жыл бұрын
"We need a bigger boat"
@okiedoke6373
@okiedoke6373 2 жыл бұрын
Fitting action is called water hammer
@kokalol
@kokalol 3 ай бұрын
What's water hammer?
@danburman533
@danburman533 2 жыл бұрын
A friend has an electric boat that seats 4. When he accelerates with the bronze prop we hear a “howling” and/or vibration from the prop area. He likes the bronze prop better than the plastic one because of the good acceleration.
@pap91rt50
@pap91rt50 3 жыл бұрын
Always enlightening.
@boostedsaleen6146
@boostedsaleen6146 3 жыл бұрын
Best prop you can get is a mercury racing Bravo 1 hands down
@crashalexander7232
@crashalexander7232 Жыл бұрын
depends on power and type of boat...one prop is not the answer for every boat....
@concade2544
@concade2544 3 жыл бұрын
now I don't have to many brain cells but I've always wondered how you don't cut your feet of when climbing down the ladder on the back. do you have to wait for the propellers to stop spinning?
@RyanWinkelmann
@RyanWinkelmann 3 жыл бұрын
You always make sure the drive are in neutral and ideally the motor's are turned off.
@arghone
@arghone 9 ай бұрын
Drink every time he touches a prop, finish your drink every time he spins one.
@sunsetoriginals7320
@sunsetoriginals7320 2 жыл бұрын
I’m having a lot of issues with a boat and getting the correct propeller. To start off, I have a 19’ bowrider with a 150 4 stroke. I started off with a 19 pitch mercury black max. It was over reviving at top speed 52mph and the boat was also hard to control. It would chine walk at WOT. Then I got a black max 21 pitch and the prop would feel like it was slipping. I second guessed myself and thought I might have forgot to tighten the nut! Next I purchased a 19 pitch Michigan wheel Apollo 3 blade. I had no issues with slipping but the chine walking returned at wide open throttle. I got a deal on a high five 21 pitch and figured I’d give it a shot. I tried it out today and the prop feels like it’s slipping again. If I punch it, the engine over revs. I feel like I’m fighting a losing battle here. Im also wondering if my engine is too high but it’s mounted as low as it can be and the ventilation plate is about an inch above the bottom of the hull. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
@crashalexander7232
@crashalexander7232 Жыл бұрын
chine walk is a result of poor driving skill that is all.
@sunsetoriginals7320
@sunsetoriginals7320 Жыл бұрын
@@crashalexander7232 lol.
@juspain1
@juspain1 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 1985 bayliner Capri with a Volvo penta engine. I’ve been rewiring a lot and getting things to work. Next step is to put it in the water and see what happens. I’m kind of worried I’m going to have some kind of issue like this. Crossing my fingers
@Maurice_Montana
@Maurice_Montana 2 жыл бұрын
Question... is the correct name a "anti-ventilation plate" or "cavitation plate"?
@darensphotos
@darensphotos 12 күн бұрын
Hi there on another subject, can you explain prop lashing? on bigger 5 blade nibral props?
@BornAgainBoating
@BornAgainBoating 11 күн бұрын
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking for about?
@darensphotos
@darensphotos 10 күн бұрын
@@BornAgainBoating lol me either. I had a captain that said a certain sets of props weren't working properly on our 98' sportfish due to "prop lash" I had never heard this term before. Something to do with the prop spin when shifting?
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