Sounds more like change in speaker emulation than preamp itself.
@RMS12.22 ай бұрын
I do hear the difference but I will probably just stick with mkll
@depam4552 ай бұрын
The gen 3 is 200 euros more than the Mk2 and the sound is too similar
@misterreality2 ай бұрын
The Gen3 sounds darker to my ears from here. I like the way the mk ii pops on the video. There’s definitely a mushy sound the Gen3 has. No bad, but different. That said I’m happy with my mk II, and would probably buy a used mk Ii before getting the 3 as it doesn’t sounds like it would cut through a mix vs the 2.
@TwistedIdentity2 ай бұрын
I got a Gen 2 Artist Head recently and when I saw the Gen 3 came out I was just like "-facepalm- really." buuut it's to be expected I s'pose :P After actually hearing the Gen 3 on videos though, yeah I'm happy with my Gen2 I don't care to upgrade haha. You're right the 2 does seem a little brighter. I'd rather my amp be bright and be able to dial it down than to not be bright enough
@fastacesus8499Ай бұрын
This is not my experience. In Gen 3 they have got rid of the low mids and the overall clarity is better. You need to try one though.
@misterrealityАй бұрын
@@fastacesus8499 tried one a few times. Still sticking with the two. It’s all subjective. I don’t like it. You do, it’s all good.
@kalaharithorn2 ай бұрын
Very cool! Didn't the Gen 3 sound a bit too dark? I am not using great quality headphones, but that's what I heard. Didn't love the clean tone, which I thought sounded a bit better and brighter on the MkII. But the distorted tones, while darker/fuller, sounded great on the new one.
@ryanmccabe78212 ай бұрын
Great Vid Juca. Noticable difference listening through some decent sony bluetooth headphones. Sounds more analog on the Gen3. I've got a Katana Artist MkII combo but 95% time use preamp pedals connected to the effects return of the artist. Using Joyo American Sound and SunT as preamps with boost pedals and much prefer the analog sound and enhanced dynamics. Still use the delay and reverb from the katana using this setup. Stock sounds of the katana sound good but a little spikey. My preamp pedal rig rounds out the sound quite a bit, Gen3 appears to produce a rounder less spikey sound in your demo. When I engage the global eq using the preamp rigup I get the eq shift I'm after but lose some of the harmonics and analog roundness.
@nightworkband77152 ай бұрын
You said there was a weaker signal coming from the MK2 when you were doing clean and actually it sounded like the opposite it dropped off when you started playing the Gen 3. Just wondering if I'm the only one that heard it that way.
@williamdavidson78932 ай бұрын
I heard it that way, too.
@johnelias52932 ай бұрын
Me too
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
It’s because of the video sound when exported.
@richardbrucemusic14 күн бұрын
@@JucaNeryGuitar that and KZbin's compression is probably squashing the Gen 3's increased output.
@JucaNeryGuitar14 күн бұрын
Yeah!
@godsgifttotheinternet45382 ай бұрын
I have a first generation 100 Watt Katana, I seen no reason to upgrade to a second generation or third generation yet. Maybe the 4th generation will finally give me a reason to upgrade but from I've seen so far in these upgrades, I doubt it will. The Katana I already have does everything I need.
@tim87452 ай бұрын
Listening to this through my computer speakers, they sound pretty much the same, only slightly different. Both seem to sound pretty good.
@mobeersplz2 ай бұрын
Thanks for demonstrating them both, I have neither amp and was considering the Gen3. I feel the MKII might sit better in a mix, the Gen 3 sounds like it would lost. I’ll have to play them both to really tell though.
@JHKNVY022 ай бұрын
Would love to see the same shootout with the Artist Mk2 vs Gen 3
@twelthstring2 ай бұрын
Yes , but without bypassing the Waza spreaker.
@robphillips83512 ай бұрын
I can say that owning both mkii and gen3 50 watt, I think it's more noticeable through the speaker in that it's a little smoother in the top end, if that makes any sense??
@JamesFlorio-ti8gc2 ай бұрын
Great 👍🏻 Demo as always....tried the gen 3 myself. Im waiting for either rhe head or Artist which is coming next month. But i must say these gen 3 are a huge improvement especially that true natural response and sound is incredible on the gen 3 . Truly feels and plays like a tube amp now and mk ii was soo close already. Have a blessed day dude 😎👊🏻💯
@jazzcat10562 ай бұрын
Prefer the Gen3. My Gen2 has that ice pick sound you have to dial out.
@beefnacos62582 ай бұрын
Yup and it's still there just a little bit , for me at least. When I record though you can't hear it
@riokinsey21342 ай бұрын
Juca, do you favor the waza or regular katana speakers? Relatedly, which do you personally feel your patches sound better through ?
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
They're both good, the Waza being a better speaker.
@Officer_WF2 ай бұрын
Thank you !!! Juka just saved me a lot of Εuros. I will definitely keep my MK2
@ablegrei70502 ай бұрын
Me too!
@ECO202222 ай бұрын
I think it is important to disclose if the gear was send by the manufacturer or bought by the reviewer's own money.
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
Both sent.
@vegetariancannibal309825 күн бұрын
Sticking with my MK2 ❤
@stevewooten21572 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks for doing this!
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
Thanks :)
@rderfa24 күн бұрын
Awesome video as always, man. Thanks and cheers!!!
@JucaNeryGuitar24 күн бұрын
Thanks man :) Cheers
@tchnorl00Ай бұрын
Not sure if it’s just me but the gen3 sounds muddy and just lost compared to the mk2 which is the opposite of what you’re saying while you are playing through them so that’s strange. Don’t know why I have an eerie feeling that these gen3’s are a miss compared to the mk2. The new “pushed” amp is a cool addon but I’m sure that sound can be emulated through an mk2 anyway. So far not a huge fan after watching multiple reviews of gen3’s.
@dougnation9852 ай бұрын
Gen 3 sounds like you threw a thick wool blanket over it.
@andythrash.2 ай бұрын
I got the MK2 head and I love it to bits
@johnb29412 ай бұрын
Like Juca says, maybe it sounds different in the room but from what I hear I agree with others that say the Gen 3 sounds dark in comparison to the MK2. I'm not a fan of dark and prefer the brighter sounds even if it's thinner. I'll stick with my MK2 for now. Maybe I'll change my mind if I ever get to hear one in person.
@bluemawks2 ай бұрын
Juca, this is the vid I wanted to see!
@MarkBoese11 күн бұрын
"MK" is "Mark" I was hoping this would be a comparison between the two in terms of technology...the sound between two solid state amps from the same company really can't be that different.
@OFFICIALAZURITEKING20 күн бұрын
I own a GEN 3 ARTST, I agree with you! The sound quality is there, more fuller than wth a MK2.
@fantaizy4Ай бұрын
The winner is Katana MKII ...Sorry
@JTB--Ай бұрын
I'd stick with the MKII unless you're going to upgrade to the Katana Gen 3 Artist with the "Bloom" Feature among other nice new features
@rodneytod71412 ай бұрын
I like Gen 3 better, BUT, with digital every time you get something a new revised version is around the corner. You go broke keeping up! I’m just gonna be happy with what I have. I was happy with it prior to Gen3.
@bluemawks2 ай бұрын
'm dang sure they are both running the same preamp tech, maybe they updated the software. Run a loop into the front end, then a spectrum analyzer? just sayin?
@bikeman1x112 ай бұрын
might just be the cab/speaker emulation
@mostLikelywhite2 ай бұрын
So the gen 3 has headphone jack stereo output but the mkii doesn't correct?
@alessandrorighi12822 ай бұрын
Generally speaking the gen3 sounds fuller but sometimes the tone is too close with a lot of bass, maybe it's because was setup to work with the MK2.
@lenni-hazelsАй бұрын
I think I missed if and where it was said but if it was just the MK2 patches ported over to Gen 3, no wonder it does sound a bit dull on the new one.
@ChrisPuckettАй бұрын
I bought a gen 3 head yesterday from Sweetwater and I can’t wait to get it. I have a MK2 100 W head for sale. I’ll let it go for 200 bucks. It’s in really good shape. Seller pay shipping, comment below and let’s connect if you want it.
@andrelessard53052 ай бұрын
The MK2 sounds good but the GEN 3 sounds warmer and fuller. Good choice of guitar for this comparison. Thanks Juca
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
Thanks :)
@rolandmengedoth21912 ай бұрын
I keep my Artist MK II. There is no need for a new Amp. The "old one" works fine!!!
@StanleyGrant132 ай бұрын
I got a Gen 3 and hooked my MKII up to it as a slave to get stereo out of the config. It’s the best of both worlds.
@LairdDavidson2 ай бұрын
I wonder if you can unlock the "sneaky amps" on the gen 3 amps like you can on previous ones.
@kevinmcguinness11132 ай бұрын
Apparently not, unfortunately.
@greenwichmusic67712 ай бұрын
The gen 3 sounds muddy in all of these clips but it person it doesn’t. I don’t think the eq responds the same on gen 3 so the patches won’t translate that well
@jeffreyquinonez89642 ай бұрын
It definitely won't transfer over well. But that's ok. Everyone can make their own patches again and upload em to the internet 😉 👍
@JHKNVY022 ай бұрын
Gen 3 sounds killer through the DI! Much closer to a Tube but WAY simpler and CHEAPER to record! I may have to pick up an Artist Gen 3 head in the future!
@Matthew_Scan2 ай бұрын
Mk 2 sounds brighter than Gen 3
@These_go_to_eleven_19592 ай бұрын
I agree but it also is thinner sounding.the Gen 3 has a fuller, warmer tone. I wonder if you added more presence to it?
@bzworldАй бұрын
Thx Juca will the patches I bought from u work on Gen 3?
@JucaNeryGuitarАй бұрын
Yes, sure :) Cheers
@tomcaron91132 ай бұрын
Hoping the gen 3 does not sell well so I can pick up one cheap! Would like a second Katana for stereo with my Gen II 50 ex. Might go for the 100 gen 3 and put a neo in it to reduce the weight. Already got a neo for it.
@jeffreyquinonez89642 ай бұрын
What's a neo?
@tomcaron91132 ай бұрын
@@jeffreyquinonez8964 It is a neodymium magnet speaker. A super lightweight magnet is used in place of a regular magnet.
@jeffreyquinonez89642 ай бұрын
@tomcaron9113 will it sound better or worse than the stock speaker. I'd like to try a different speaker with any katana I have in the future but I want it to sound great for metal
@christopherhavison517626 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video.. no reason to up grade to gen 3 . Just do adjustments and save your money for a new guitar!!! Hell Yeah
@JudgeFreddАй бұрын
My next amp (Gen3 Head) - tx Juca !
@JucaNeryGuitarАй бұрын
Cheers 👍
@charlielamp27392 ай бұрын
I like the MK2, Gen 3 sounds like you put a pillow over the speaker, my opinion for what it worth.
@STPATRICKMANNNNNNESS2 ай бұрын
which was one the winner and why?
@randall90002 ай бұрын
MK 1/Gen 1 gang rise up 🙋♂️
@jeffmalz71032 ай бұрын
The 2 sounds better
@sabbathcross2 ай бұрын
Is it possible to connect GEN 3 to a smartphone via USB?
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
Never tried, but I guess so.
@sabbathcross2 ай бұрын
@@JucaNeryGuitar could you check?
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
@@sabbathcross Will do soon :)
@robphillips83512 ай бұрын
Gen 3 sounds a bit scooped in the upper mids
@pikatchufleur7188Ай бұрын
Je pense que les katana son des amp de maison bidouilleur mais aucun son n est transcendant et organic.... il y a rien a faire de ses amps
@ChristosEugenakisАй бұрын
If all the settings on the amps and the daw are really the same, the GEN3 sounds awful compared to the mkii in this presentation ! Thanks !!!
@lenni-hazelsАй бұрын
Well generally more lows and highs, less mids but I wouldn't say awful. Here I admit it sounds a bit too muffled. On other comaprison vids I thought the gen 3 sounded more crisp and "full"? Also the 100 moreso than the 50. Either way my Katana 100 3 gen is soon on its way so I can start playing and tweaking everything to my own taste :-)
@These_go_to_eleven_19592 ай бұрын
Your english is getting better👍
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
Thanks :)
@davidbarlow431Ай бұрын
I will be sticking with my 100 mk2.
@nightworkband77152 ай бұрын
It's great that you did this video but can you please Check again Because I've already commented that when you said there was a weaker signal coming from the MK2. It sounded opposite to what you were saying and the weaker signal is coming from the Gen 3 can you please check that out and let us know
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
It’s definitely weaker. I tried to adjust the gain to match in my DAW.
@nightworkband77152 ай бұрын
@@JucaNeryGuitar thank you for the response so you are saying that the MK2 sounded louder because you over adjusted it? Because the Gen 3 sounded weaker and more muffled
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
@@nightworkband7715 Yes, that's it. In the end of the video might seem that the Gen 3 is weaker but it's quite the opposite.
@nightworkband77152 ай бұрын
@@JucaNeryGuitar thanks so much for the prompt responses. Maybe that's also why on the clean channel the MK2 came across a little better which surprised me but that could be because you overcompensated a little bit. Thank you very much for the video and your answers. I look forward to seeing more
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
Stay tuned for the next video where I’ll use microphones. Cheers
@yvandewever65182 ай бұрын
Gen 3 really dark sounding
@greenwichmusic67712 ай бұрын
It has to be the way he has the eq set, I think this video confirms you can’t dial them in the same. In person the 3 doesn’t sound all dark and muddy like this
@bonedale2 ай бұрын
Have a mkii will wait for gen 4, best to skip a gen otherwise I could never keep up, beside I think we know someone who can make a pushed patch
@beefnacos62582 ай бұрын
I'm sure you'll be waiting another 5 years minimum
@scott66822 ай бұрын
Will GEN 3 patches work on Mk2?
@JucaNeryGuitar2 ай бұрын
Nope, only the other way around.
@GerryBlue2 ай бұрын
I have the MKii, and at least in this video, I think it sounds better
@derekjohnson5720Ай бұрын
The first and most important thing about an amp is it's sound. All this fx loop, Bluetooth, line out etc is irrelevant. Tried a Gen 3 and to my ears it was a down grade from the mk2. The pushed setting can be created on the mk2, clean channel with the blues driver used as a boost. The gen 3 sounded darker. Boss are getting a bit stupid with this amp now. 2024 and you need a dongle 😂😂 you have the gen 3 mk2 that you can't use the footswitch with but they brought out a mk2 gen 3 ext that you can shortley after. I have a katana and I can tell you it has to be the most overhyped amp ever. Is it a good amp yes, is it the greatest like it's made out to be, hell no.
@JucaNeryGuitarАй бұрын
You can't use the footswich? Since when?
@derekjohnson5720Ай бұрын
@@JucaNeryGuitar can't use the gaf footswitch on the mk2 gen3 50wat
@JucaNeryGuitarАй бұрын
@@derekjohnson5720 Oh, the 50 Watt.
@derekjohnson5720Ай бұрын
@@JucaNeryGuitar yeh you can't use the gaf footswitch on the mk2 gen3 50 watt. You need to buy the mk2 gen3 ext to be able to use the gaf footswitch. I think that is a shit move from boss. They need to do away with this gen/ext thing. What they should do is just bring out a amp called the Boss Katana. Have a 50wat, 100wat, 100 2x12 100wat and a 100wat head. Put all the bells and whistles on all of them, built in Bluetooth and wirless connection, fx loop etc. Make them all compatible with the gaf footswitch. Price them accordingly and let peeps decide what size they want. This mk2, mk2 ext, mk2 gen3, mk2 gen3 ext, it's a load of nonsense if you ask me. Boss should bring out a basic katana for absolute beginners. Have it with 4 channels, clean, crunch, lead, brown. Gain, volume, master volume, bass, middle, treble and reverb, power reduction. No modulation or fx or tone studio. A basic plug in and play for beginners. I think a Katana is a bit to much for an absolute beginner, option paralysis. I learnt to play on a old Marshal mg 30watt. Moved on to use pedals with it. Then went onto a Katana 100watt, then a silverline 100watt. Then a Vox AC15 with pedals that gets kept in my pals studio as I was driving my neighbours crazy.
@RF_BurnsАй бұрын
Both sound like a cheap multi-effects pedal to my ears.
@Matthew_Scan2 ай бұрын
It’s the Apple business model Gen 4 will come out and and Gen 3 will be obsolete rubbish
@johndavenport77252 ай бұрын
MK II !!!
@bikeman1x112 ай бұрын
not worht upgrading
@jazzcat10562 ай бұрын
First lol.
@thecentralscrutinizerrАй бұрын
And the winner is: The Boss GT-100, which you can snag used for $250.