Global warming: why you should not worry

(Boston Globe) An MIT scientist explains the potential dangers
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[@technolung]

Surprised this hasn't been removed

[@conversandoando]

KZbin isn't that fascist. Yet.

[@marinanguish9928]

Its from an MSM outlet that is why

[@goblinoide]

@@conversandoando Yes it is. They must have just missed this one.

[@goblinoide]

@@miked5106 You may have misinterpreted OP's comment.

[@kanyeeastlolz]

Lol

[@jakeperkins6725]

“When you hear a scientist saying the science is settled, you know that person has stepped out of the science”

[@sharehard]

there is such a thing as consensus and we definitely have that with climate change

[@konverzaktion2393]

@@sharehard And that means you don't understand. Scientific consensus means more or less this: "currently, to the best of our current researches, measurements, and so on, that's a X% probability that the things are like this" (to keep it simple, I don't put into the formula politics and economy and lobbying and corporate interests funding certain researches worldwide, because it'd be hard to make a general picture in a comment; anyway, they are there to make the "consensus" very much less certain and granted.) This is light-years far away from saying "the science is settled". If you say this, you are stepping out of the science. And if you don't realize that because "well, but there's a consensus!" is the same to you, then you damage scientific research and advancement, and I suggest you the reading of books on the history of science, scientific errors in modern age, and of course epistemology essays.

[@sharehard]

@@konverzaktion2393 thanks for your recommendations. I have studied philosophy of science and the history of science. What is understood and where there is no contraversy among experts is that CO2 is causing an increase in global tempurature and the current increase in tempurature is largely anthropogenic. What the future will look like, impacts, how various systems of climate work... all of this is being refined and is full of uncertainty.

[@konverzaktion2393]

@@sharehard Perfect. Then, controversy or not apart, I really don't understand what your point on the citation was. But I suppose it doesn't matter as long as we agree on the key points, right?

[@sharehard]

@@konverzaktion2393 perhaps I was assuming you were coming from a relativistic or overly skeptical perspective. I hear many people say that nothing is settled in science therefore we don't have to take climate change seriously as an issue.

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

"everything is fine and OK" This phrase will not make new headline

[@MariaMartinez-researcher]

He won't make headlines because reality has debunked him. Bogota is rationing water, Hawaii is in a water crisis, permafrost is melting, Kazakhstan is flooding, the East Coast is being pounded by storm after storm - and the hurricane season is just starting. Pay attention to the news, not to one scientist who said something you agree with *10 years ago.* When the 99% of climatologists agree in something, that's not called propaganda, but scientific consensus, and you pay attention to it.

[@achimfritz143]

This line is bullshit.

[@theskullsculler7991]

Aaron Rodgers: ‘If science can’t be questioned, it’s propaganda’. True that.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Science has determined that the earth is round. Propaganda?

[@munyansebastien7127]

If you question an established science, you should have facts and numbers more solid than your opponents. It's not the case here.

[@redfish7081]

@@munyansebastien7127 Says who? An "expert"?

[@redfish7081]

@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 What a profound argument. Comparing a round Earth to the religion to control people calle "climate change". Drink some more Koolaid. It's good for you.

[@lilyk3734]

gonna bring this one up next time anyone tells me to stop telling chldren that theres never any risks from jumping off cliffs and its actually extremely safe a nd fun, the water will protect them no matter how shallow or far down

[@charlesfrancis1706]

I very much appreciate Richard Lizden's straightforward honesty. Especially when he said, "All of us scientists are government employees. even if we are working for private universities".

[@scoobedoo1008]

and mention of his funds from Peabody Energy was probably included in this interview but edited out

[@amostlyreasonableguy]

@The Wandering M you’re invalidating their entire professional existence and more strikingly their very integrity as human beings. And rightly so...

[@Viator19]

@The Wandering M Same. The wife of a friend of mine is a Professor in Climate Politics. Getting paid very handsomely, far better than any other academics at the same University. I would like to know where the money is ultimately coming from.

[@TOM-op2cp]

@The Wandering M People get upset when you catch them in a lie

[@johnhill7058]

@@Viator19 China and Russia are two primary sources of climate malarky; it serves to offset the US's great advantage in energy resources/production.

[@mainelife4268]

I was hired by the University of Maine, while a student, to test New England lakes for acidity levels. When I read the study I saw how they skewed the test to obtain the results that could only say acid rain in a problem. I challenged the presiding professor. Sure enough He admitted that they needed to prove that acid rain is problematic only because they were up for a ten million dollar grant. They confirmed, based upon my sample collections, they were going to submit fraudulent test results to the EPA purely to gain funding. When I refused to sign off on their skewered test results, I was promptly fired. How many other false narratives have Universities created solely to pocket from the government?

[@genxer74]

this should be made into a documentary or least broadcast on the news... even better, go talk to Rogan for 3 hours.

[@sononi4798]

Yeah but...trust the science right?

[@robertosanchez8793]

How many? More than likely every university multiple times since the beginning of time. 👌👌👌🤟

[@mr.jamster8414]

That's fucked, wow...

[@keepingitwild5994]

Well, you need to make that public, otherwise they will keep on doing what they're doing unchallenged.

[@dennisthomas8618]

KZbin will probably deem this video “Hate Speech”.

[@boffeycn]

No. Just lies You obviously aren't aware that MIT has told him he is wrong.

[@thewhisper417]

@@boffeycn when and where please?

[@boffeycn]

@@thewhisper417 Why is it that dejiers of the reality of AGW & ACC seem incapable of doing things for themselves and just unquestioningly follow the denier dogma?

[@darryljones3009]

If so they've certainly taken their sweet time getting rid of a 9 year old video.

[@dennisthomas8618]

Obama just spent $15 million for a beach house.

[@arnoldfrackenmeyer8157]

Talk to airline captains that have been flying over northern latitudes for the past 30 years. "Nothing has changed"

[@PiyushPant-bq8mv]

Bro according to you global warming is not big deal But in ground level people know actual reality

[@arnoldfrackenmeyer8157]

@@PiyushPant-bq8mv I'm not gullible.

[@DANCEGARAGEPUNK]

@@arnoldfrackenmeyer8157 Sounds like you are : )

[@arnoldfrackenmeyer8157]

@@DANCEGARAGEPUNK Sea level hasn't changed in 50 years. It's in the same spot it was when I was young. I see no difference in the climate since I was a kid in the 60's. We had freak storms back then too. The galveston hurricane of 1900 was the worst storm to hit the United States. The hurricane of 1780 was the worst atlantic hurricane ever killing 20,000. Have a good day.

[@DANCEGARAGEPUNK]

​@@arnoldfrackenmeyer8157 ​ @arnoldfrackenmeyer8157 There is no climate change if you refuse to believe your own eyes & get your Corporate Funded Misinformation from fox, sky australia, Lindzen, & ` Big Corporate ` cronies Musk, Peterson etc. According to NASA sea levels have risen more than 10cm since 1992 & sea level rise is accelerating !

[@daveturner6006]

When I was a teenager (in the early 70's) everyone was convinced there was going to be another ice age.

[@MichaelFurniss]

Totally wrong. Head up butt.

[@mattp5991]

Good point. We are actually headed back into an Ice Age. the last one covered New York in 2 MILES THICK ICE. Should be here in the next 1000 years or so. How will we adapt to that?

[@wms1650]

@@MichaelFurniss Are you saying the projections, in the 1970s, were wrong? The late 1970s had those headlines. Who had their head up a butt Michael Furniss?

[@AWW8472]

Leonard Nimoy said it, so why hasn't come true?

[@joeschultz2]

Dave Turner: In the early seventies, cars still had carburetors and came with 8-track tape players. Research has moved on.

[@rixpix2957]

That's about the most sensible 5 minutes of video I've ever seen. Thank you!

[@youngkatzenjammer6203]

@Zarion 11 You know you have been lied to. Yes, even about what is sane and rational, and what is insane and irrational.

[@Nhoj737]

Ignorance is bliss?

[@rixpix2957]

@@Nhoj737 You tell me...

[@Nhoj737]

@@rixpix2957 “For climate change, there are many scientific organizations that study the climate. These alphabet soup of organizations include NASA, NOAA, JMA, WMO, NSIDC, IPCC, UK Met Office, and others. Click on the names for links to their climate-related sites. There are also climate research organizations associated with universities. These are all legitimate scientific sources. If you have to dismiss all of these scientific organizations to reach your opinion, then you are by definition denying the science. If you have to believe that all of these organizations, and all of the climate scientists around the world, and all of the hundred thousand published research papers, and physics, are all somehow part of a global, multigenerational conspiracy to defraud the people, then you are, again, a denier by definition. So if you deny all the above scientific organizations there are a lot of un-scientific web sites out there that pretend to be science. Many of these are run by lobbyists (e.g.., Climate Depot, run by a libertarian political lobbyist, CFACT), or supported by lobbyists (e.g., JoannaNova, WUWT, both of whom have received funding and otherwise substantial support by lobbying organizations like the Heartland Institute), or are actually paid by lobbyists to write Op-Eds and other blog posts that intentionally misrepresent the science.” thedakepage.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/how-to-assess-climate-change.html

[@rixpix2957]

@@Nhoj737 While I appreciate all of that info, I would never make such a comment without having researched the very sources you've indicated here. I will gladly checkout the link you kindly left in your comment and let you know what I think of you'd like. However, I'll just make this one point before doing so: Each organization you listed here from top to bottom are all funded, staffed and are obliged to file results, which fit particular narratives(political and otherwise) of the financiers that sponsor them. That goes for government agencies as well.

[@ThekiBoran]

"I'd rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned." - Richard Feynman.

[@AdrienBurg]

You can question climate change if you provide sound arguments.

[@ThekiBoran]

@@AdrienBurg CO2/plant food is only a problem in corrupt, fraudulent computer models.

[@franceleeparis37]

Well, here is an answer that cannot be questioned… the whole climate scam is a lie.. pollution in the air actually helps to make it rain.. that’s why Europe and US are now suffering from droughts… The only time it rains in these countries is when the atmosphere is filled with volcanic ash or sand particles from the Sahara… other wise the air is too clean for moisture to form into raindrops..😏

[@Kgio-2112]

" There are plenty of reasons for failure, but no excuses" R E Leahey. Circa 1979

[@ThekiBoran]

@@Kgio-2112 Are you saying we shouldn't fail when it comes to the CO2/plant food scare? The CO2/plant food scare is about income redistribution/socialism, nothing more. Former IPCC chair Ottmar Edenhofer said as much.

[@DerekLeeEskelson822]

this is how you do it. a lot of people go back 30-40 years, but this man goes back to ice-ages

[@Yamyatos]

Yes, let's blindly trust what the person sponsored by oil companies is telling us about climate change. Big thumbs up for being unbiased and all.

[@imspyingonyou2243]

My wife and I can't decide on the optimal temp on our home thermostat. I don't hold much hope for the whole of humanity being in agreement.

[@Chipchase780]

The battles that causes in our household 🙄

[@davidmc8475]

Told my wife, you can answer the door in a sweater or I can answer it in my boxers. 😂

[@imspyingonyou2243]

@@ricksmith1673 just a joke mate.

[@Thaco69]

When the American bread basket migrates north to Canada, coastal towns are flooding, and we're dealing with mass climate migration... Maybe you and your wife will have figured it out

[@imspyingonyou2243]

@@Thaco69 we'll have a billion years to sort it out then. I'm from Scotland by the way. I welcome climate change.

[@patriciasweet9553]

Can't believe that the Boston Globe actually aired this. Not everyone has been bought out.

[@bustindustin959]

Mad respect to Boston Globe

[@robertwoodpa6463]

Me too!

[@nickjames205]

"how dare you" ... Gretta voice

[@IzabelParis]

😆😆😆

[@dennisfyfe920]

Lolololol😂

[@RichardTavilla]

In 2018 she said we have 5 years left. She had to take down post this year

[@cowboyofscience7611]

"It's a bad idea to have anything that can't be challenged." Beautifully said, sir. This is my whole problem with the anthropogenic climate change people. Environmental Authoritarianism is every bit as evil as its political cousin!

[@aesir0784]

Perfectly said. tyvm

[@search4truth104]

This is the very essence of the climate change religion. You must believe! Yet how many ex politicians have huge houses right on the ocean?

[@cowboyofscience7611]

@@search4truth104 Truth!

[@grahamyates2490]

Spoken like a true flat-Earther.

[@cowboyofscience7611]

@@grahamyates2490 Being an "Oblate spheroid," Earth is anything but flat. Unfortunately, the "science" backing up climate change is almost non-existent! It's mostly computer projection modeling. There's certainly not nearly enough "real science" to predict ANY outcome, since we've only been keeping climate records for around 150 years---a mere blip in geological time. So, please save the whining and crying about how it's "Settled Science!"

[@gerhard7323]

'I'd rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.' Richard Feynman

[@sulate1]

And then there’s “gravity”

[@richsackett3423]

"I'd rather my words were not taken out of context by some rando in the future." - Every Famous Guy Ever

[@gerhard7323]

@@richsackett3423 Ahh, so you disagree. No dissent. No questions. No peer reviews. Just shut the front door and take your medicine right?

[@mikeFolco]

Well, Feynman knew WTF he was talking about, unlike the climate change denier dummies.

[@gerhard7323]

@@mikeFolco Feynman was humble enough to understand that neither he nor we have all the answers and never will. It shows he also understood the big danger lies in not being able to question what are claimed to be absolute unassailable truths. Not least because of the motivations that may lie behind them....

[@richardschaefer4807]

Here's a neat little factoid. Vikings settled in North America (Nova Scotia) during the Medieval Warming Period roughly 950-1260; about 500 years before Columbus "discovered" the New World. It was during this period of "global warming" that the northern oceans became ice free for the first time in centuries. This period of "warming" allowed the Vikings to colonize and grow crops in previously frozen areas of Greenland and Nova Scotia. During that period, the North West Passage, the northern most route to the Pacific, was also ice free; and it is believed by many historians and researchers that the Vikings actually passed from the Atlantic to the Pacific in their "Long Ships" and explored the West Coast as far south as California. Ah...those were the days when men were men! After the passing of about 360 years, the cold temps, ice and snow returned and the tough Norsemen were forced to abandon their colonies as crops could no longer be grown or cattle grazed. You know, it's all about the "Big Picture" - not about dissecting some micro-spec on a timeline miles long. This is about the Green-Progressives moving to control every aspect of our lives ,and society, by weaponizing the Warmest meme.

[@jamesroberts6248]

Cant agree with you about "many" historians. DEFINITELY agree with you about a time in history when it wasnt against the "law" to be masculine. The language of your posts last sentence was BRILLIANT.

[@andyiswonderful]

It isn't "Green Progressives" doing what you say. Rather, thousands of reputable scientists have been studying this for a long time, and their collective assessment is that man-made climate change is real. Your comment about Green-Progressives moving to control every aspect of our lives makes me think you are into conspiracy theories.

[@darlatidwell9995]

andyiswonderful Ok then,...so the government isn't messing with the weather patterns?...ever ? Whew!😰...that's totally some good news!

[@lindabowman2139]

andyiswonderful he's not the only one, go back through history, scare mongering by govts has been around for sooo long!!

[@lindabowman2139]

andyiswonderful PS Many, many real scientists, whi aren't govt funded to produce the 'right' results for them, would disagree that any global weather change is man made!!!!

[@kevinjennings5153]

This person should be interviewed again and review his statements.

[@hemihead68]

Peolple aren’t talking about what happened in the last thousand years as you’ve stated !!!! They’re concerned about what has and is happening since the industrial revolution !!!

[@themonsterunderyourbed9408]

Which is exactly the same thing that's been happening for the last thousand years.

[@hemihead68]

@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 understood yes of course but it's at the rate at which the levels are rising, specifically CO2. This we can see clearly (from core samples) that has everyone concerned...well at least most of the scientific community anyway or enough people that we can try and make a difference even if it is at the huge / expense / economic cost but I'd rather take that approach than sitting back and two generations from now (or less) tell us what a bunch of lame brains we were from this time period our generation (well some of us) for sitting back and saying "there's no need to fear"..... i think we can all agree mankind has had a huge effect on on the environment, its a debate as to how much it has an effect on the planet, and to what level or you willing to go to economically to cause the least amount of harmful effect, I do not want to leave a planet that's all used up, this is all we have, to big a risk to take.....respectfully

[@johnchandler1687]

​@@hemihead68When CO2 levels reach that of the dinosaur age ( many times higher than today's), then I'll worry. We are, in fact, in a CO2 "drought" compared with past times. The slight increase of the last 3 centuries is letting vegetation recover. The desert areas are greening up again.

[@terrifictomm]

Here are the Takeaways: 1. "The temperature of the earth is always changing. It's always going up or down." Which is why they had to change the Boogeyman from "The Coming Ice Age!" and "Global Warming!" to "Climate Change!" And yes, the exclamation points are part of the logos. 2. "By asking people to worry about whether it's going up or down you are immediately establishing dishonesty." 3. "The climate is always changing. It's nothing you have to prove. It always is happening. It's always has happened." Climate change is nothing new or unique or even alarming. 4. "So to make that [climate change] into something alarming seems a little bit weird." 5. "The trouble is, all of us scientists are government employees. Even if we're working for private universities. All research is supported by the government. As such, we are very sensitive to what politicians say and believe." 6. "You know when you hear a scientist say, "The science is settled," you know that person has stepped out of the science." 7. "How could do many people agree if it wasn't true," I think should be a red flag." 8. When it's conflated, "Temperature is changing. Climate is changing. Man played some role... With predictions of disaster that are clearly not connected to warming activities or anything else, leaving people with the thought that off the first part is true the second part must be true, is certainly not the case." 9. "Then to add insult to injury, to propose policies that would have nothing to do with any of it, but involve trillions of dollars in harm to many people, I think, is crossing over the line."

[@dlbutler]

Thank you for this.

[@decab8292]

And all in the name of profit.

[@michaelmckinney7240]

To say "the temperature of the earth is always changing" says nothing about the certain reality of rapid global warming and is nothing more than an obtuse dodge.

[@mr.jamster8414]

#6

[@terrifictomm]

@@michaelmckinney7240 Wrong. Global temperatures were dropping in the 60s and 70s (An Ice Age is Coming! We're all going to die! I actually LEARNED THIS lie in 6th grade science!). Then there was slight increase for a few years (The Planet is Overheating! We're all going to die!). Then there was a long pause of about 20 years (well passed the 2006. The DEADline Al Gore have for when the planet would be irretrievably in its death spiral). Now they've settled on telling us that the climate changing AT ALL its going to kill us all! Ten years later, the National Review wrote an article celebrating our survival! www.nationalreview.com/2016/01/al-gore-doomsday-clock-expires-climate-change-fanatics-wrong-again/ Here it is, sixteen years after our prophesied demise and YOU'RE STILL HERE! That's the only song enviromaniacs know how to play. Everything is about to end all life on this planet. SOON! Forty-two times in the past 60 years, environmentalists have predicted world-decimating disasters and NONE OF THEM have come to pass! Not ONE had happened. You all are 0-42! Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. But no way are you going to lie to me 42 times and get away with it.

[@MrDaiseymay]

Just one example---The GREAT Climate Guru, Al Gore, claimed in 2008, that the Ice cap of the North Pole, would have entirely melted by 2013. The was no noticeable change at all by that date, the opposite in fact. But AL made millions from his Book sales, and won prizes too.

[@Now_lets_get_this_straight]

They have not even come close to what they say that will happen in 10 years, even 20 years. That’s what happens when you are selective in what facts you choose and then add your own opinion as fact.

[@mr.jamster8414]

That's what I was trying to remember...

[@LaurieWilliams-lk8fc]

And here in Australia we have Tim Flannery who said that rainfall would be so little that the capital cities would run out of water. See how that worked out. But he still has his faithful followers.

[@DavianSinner]

I'm pretty sure some Democrats were saying roughly around the 2016 election that we had 7 years left. So, get your affairs in order, we have one more year.

[@atypocrat1779]

He got south park to back peddle on man bear pig too.

[@stephencollins1479]

Whenever i hear a politician talking about global warming, the first question that comes to mind is, what is the temperature of the earth supposed to be? Like this guy pointed out, the planet’s temperature has changed over its existence. Which temperature is ‘right’?

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Right temperature for who? Humans? Penguins? Trout? Inuit? Alligators? There is no one-size fits all temperature. The right one for humans would be one that didn't melt icecaps, raise sea levels, intensify hurricanes and increase drought, extreme precipitation events and wildfires.

[@abdulahs.alasiri1024]

you grouped Inuit with trout and alligators. @@swiftlytiltingplanet8481

[@anmold5676]

The one we had before industrialization please.

[@zildjiandrummer1]

The "right" temperature is one where life can continue unimpeded. The rate of change of the temperature is the problem due to humans burning fossil fuels, because life can't adapt quickly enough, and many things die out/degrade/etc.

[@johnchandler1687]

Before the age of industry and in it's beginning years we were in the Little Ice Age . 13th century until the mid 19th century. We are only recovering back to the average temperatures befor that well known, but ignored event.​@@anmold5676

[@skiprocker5751]

The USA, was covered in a glacial sheet of ice across our Northern borders 10,000 years ago. The ice for some reason melted and receded to the north. Those glaciers carved out our Great lakes and their melting filled them with trillions of gallons of fresh water. So the real conundrum is, what made them melt? Who was burning all the fossil fuels that heated up the planet? Or, can we assume these events are cyclical?

[@lindabowman2139]

Skip Rocker Exactly right!!!

[@UUJman]

Just the thought of burning fossil fuels scared the ice into melting.

[@olddog6658]

Buffalo farts....

[@lindabowman2139]

Skodaman2 Funny!!

[@gfoursux9]

I'll bet it was the Russians. Or perhaps White Privilege.

[@outbackeddie]

I'm going to be very upset if at least 20% of the USA isn't underwater in 12 years. Especially San Francisco, Seattle, and Portland.

[@biggav7434]

Miami will be first. Boston next. Louisiana is already pretty fkd.

[@michaelwhelan4376]

Don't forget New York and California I'd love to see those fukers underwater

[@biggav7434]

Communism is worlds apart from democratic socialism, dickhead.

[@outbackeddie]

@@biggav7434 No it isn't fuckstick. You are all a bunch of thieves that think it's OK to steal from your fellow citizens to get your "free stuff."

[@outbackeddie]

@John Everlast I'm happy that many of them stay where they are rather than moving to sane states. But unfortunately, many of your ilk do move and they bring their communist ideology with them. Leftists like you are a blight on humanity.

[@daveg5045]

“We’re very sensitive to what politicians SAY & BELIEVE “, that’s a “shortcoming”……UNDERSTATEMENT

[@LC-jq7vn]

People live and die by the lies of absolute fools looking for money and power which is why they are politicians. They don’t care about us

[@mikearchibald744]

Thats lunacy and comes from somebody who very clearly is spending far more time hanging around politicians than scientists. Thats so crazy its amazing he said it. Politicians come and go all the time. If you are talkiing about FUNDING thats something different,but elected politicians are almost never on funding boards.

[@JosephHurtsellers]

True that!

[@bathtubgin404]

Yeah. So 1700 Scientists around the globe say otherwise? This is just one opinion. Glad you found one you agree with.

[@davidt5770]

Here is an update of what the science has actually said. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2OufXqnebh0oNE

[@rogerg3986]

This video has not aged well! People like this guy have cost us 15 years when we could have been tackling the problem.

[@markylon]

There is NO PROBLEM

[@TheHorsebox2]

A truther. You can tell. He's speaks in calm, measured tones. On it goes...the Awakening.

[@chrisashe9277]

This guy is paid by oil companies

[@TheHorsebox2]

@@chrisashe9277 really?

[@kevinmathewson4272]

@@TheHorsebox2 the company we know for sure to have paid him is a coal company, peabody energy. but that might be the tip of the iceberg. we only know that peabody paid him because peabody filed for bankruptcy protection and had to show how it was using its funds. normally these companies are able to fund people like lindzen secretly.

[@massimo7219]

To give you an idea of how insane some of these people are, back in 2008 they predicted NYC would be underwater by 2015

[@Giggiyygoo]

Back in the 80's they said the Westside highway would be underwater by 2008. I guess that makes my car a submarine.

[@geoffb5665]

And Fiji would not exist. It must have been a ghost country we visited last summer

[@jordanwolff5243]

Link?

[@massimo7219]

@@jordanwolff5243 Here you go... www.newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2015/06/12/flashback-abcs-08-prediction-nyc-under-water-climate-change-june

[@joeschultz2]

So New York was not underwater by now-Houston was. Hey genius, why are these Gulf storms getting more numerous and stronger every year? Can't be that the oceans are getting warmer and holding more energy-hell no.

[@Blake4Truth]

Time has a way of letting truth become more obvious.

[@arthurrowland5952]

Love that people with almost any opinion can agree with this one 😁

[@jackgray3267]

www.reuters.com/article/us-climatechange-temperatures/evidence-for-man-made-global-warming-hits-gold-standard-scientists-idUSKCN1QE1ZU

[@Kiyarose3999]

Jack Gray I was first told about climate change by one of my primary school teachers in the 60’s, he MUST have been a part of the early Ecology Movement to be that aware back then. He said scientists didn’t know if the pollution would trap the heat and cause a greenhouse effect, or the opposite and stop the Suns heat from passing into our atmosphere, thereby causing an Ice Age instead. Back then in the 60’s it wasn’t obvious which way it would go, as we was still getting regular heavy Snowfalls in winter in London. But since the 80’s it has become obvious that CO2 and other ghg gasses are trapping the heat and have caused a warming effect.

[@CarFreeSegnitz]

So yeah, let's find out if the world burns by letting the world burn. So the few remaining survivors can stand over the ashes and say "ha, the burning Earthers were right!". Why the terrible fear of doing something? We have to change eventually since fossil fuels are a finite resource. The reason is just different. Instead of waiting until the last coal is dug out and the last drop of petroleum is sucked out we'll change because of the risk of climate change.

[@Kiyarose3999]

Lenard Segnitz Actually I don’t think they will run out of Oil before the whole earth is polluted, as more Oil is being found all the time, the idea that we have to change before it runs out is ludicrous. We are already on a mass extinction path and they still have decades of known Oil ‘reserves’.

[@NBZW]

My mom told me as a young person, “Don’t simply take the word of your teachers, be inquisitive do your own research, examen the facts if they seem overstated”. Well mom that’s exactly what I did, geological history tells the story truthfully, not overstated as it now is . Simply another political fear tactic.

[@alexdietz7362]

Fear is the Canadian's biggest political motivator.

[@NBZW]

ALL governments employ fear in order to control their populations in one form or another. Both mother and grandmother were teachers, mother retired in 1956 when teachers taught. They did not practice indoctrination. “If your in doubt research it yourself, that’s why we have libraries”.

[@tmo4330]

Exactly! I have found many lies we were taught in school. The theory of evolution is impossible and global warming is not to be feared. Read Genesis 8:22 if you are worried about global warming.

[@brip557]

smart mom!

[@NBZW]

@@brip557 yup, both mom and grandma were real teachers, both taught nearly 50 years each.

[@bubcat54]

Some unfortunate emails revealed the dishonesty of "the science"

[@laseronion]

"When you hear a scientist saying 'the science is settled', you know that person has stepped out of the science."

[@HiDeguild]

Alternatively, the experts who are in agreement that it IS real have a good reason to say so. We don't assume they're wrong just because we wish it were the case, we follow evidence and draw observations from that evidence. If we operated under your method humanity would still assume that miasmas caused disease and illness. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppLJY6OAqcaLj6c kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWLHn59-hd-bh6M

[@92belisarius]

You'd apply this to the Law of Gravity?

[@laseronion]

@@92belisarius Thank you for the question mark at least. No, of course not. The specific, incredibly complex science in question is CLIMATE science. That's what he's referring to with "THE science". We know a lot, but not near everything. Tens of thousands of variables, many of which we don't perfectly understand, many of which we can't possibly predict (such as solar activity), and a countless number of which are unknown ("countless" by definition). If your disingenuous question is the best response you've got, well, I don't know what to tell you. You obviously have no sense of the complexity and chaos of reality. "We know A, therefore B, therefore C"... and all the way through to Z. That's what you guys do, with no intuitive sense of how much complexity and unpredictability is added with each "therefore". Absolutely no sense of how totally in over your heads you are at C, let alone Z... It's ridiculous. But I'm a realist, and I know this won't get through to you. I know the only thing that will convince you people of the folly of your doomsday alarmism is time. So I'm willing to wait. That's all I can do. Sit back and wait, while rolling my eyes. (But please, don't let me poop your panic party. Proceed...)

[@DonkeyLipsDA3rd]

@@laseronion The people you are responding arent worth what you wrote. They are imbeciles and can not step out of the box to view different variables that disprove or meet half way with global warming.

[@laseronion]

@@DonkeyLipsDA3rd I assume they're pretty young, and that their over-simple way of viewing reality is something they have a good chance of growing out of. I remember buying into the scientifically "guaranteed" doomsday predictions of my youth. Time taught me, time will teach them (unless they get into careers that benefit from pushing the scariest narrative, i.e. politics, media, academia, etc; when money is at stake, it's tough to be objective).

[@keerpuntbelgiekapitalisto5014]

12 years later.... still here.

[@ContactBaroqueHall]

Temperature has risen in these 10 years but 10 years is tiny. If our activity causes most manmal life on the planet to end in 1500 years, then it still warrants action.

[@keerpuntbelgiekapitalisto5014]

@@ContactBaroqueHall If my mother had testikels I wouldn't have been born. If doesn't count. I'm not willing to give up my freedom for someone else their IF.

[@ContactBaroqueHall]

@@keerpuntbelgiekapitalisto5014 I understand you and have the same viewpoint as I’m also indoctrinated with our western values. But I’m trying to learn from other cultures anthropologically and finding this extreme freedom approach may reach limits, as it assumes an open system rather than closed or limited resource system. In any case I have been been raised as everyone man out for himself, compete and take the maximum we can from everyone and from anywhere that the law csn permit. If things go really really badly 500 years away - then at least I’ll not be here, so we should take the maximum we can whilst we can get away with it I say.

[@keerpuntbelgiekapitalisto5014]

@user-km3hv8qo9p I don't think we have the same viewpoints. As a consultant I traveled the world, worked 2 years in Turkey, Malta, Poland and in my 50 years on this planet I only see that things better. The more people the better the technology, we less and less poverty and more and more prosperity. We cultivate more food per M2 as technology proceeds. What a do sometimes encounter is people that think there is a limit and I always wonder if people think this way what are they willing to give up themselves. Unfortunately most of these kind of people don't want to give up anything yet expect others to drive less cars, eat less meat or travel less. In 500 years if we proceed to grow we will have people living on the moon, maybe even Mars, robots will be harvesting the asteroid belt for other resources and maybe we will discover other things in the universe that will progress humanity. I don't live for myself, I live for the people I work with and hope they become also prosperous and have a good life. I don't deny that we have challenges in front of us. Bud this climate communists mentality has to go. So, I don't think we are on the same level.

[@ContactBaroqueHall]

@@keerpuntbelgiekapitalisto5014 Thank you for your insightful answer. Our work experiences might also overlap a little as I work as an international consultant; originally based on Australia but in Monaco the last 8 years and frequently doing business in Warsaw also. I also don’t want to given up anything and change how I pollute the planet, and I never asked anyone else to change. In this sense I’m consistent and in some sense innocent, as you are. Yet the systemic effect of everyone living this way is aparantly going to cause a mass extinction. Life is getting better - I agree emphatically. When I wrote taking without constraint, I meant this not in a greedy sense but just as a matter of fact - living without limits and doing what makes us feel good - including of course our relations. But I meant we should live without restriction on our freedom so even if that destroys the planet (which seems likely) we shouldn’t put attention on that, as there is a chance things will be okay, and we should enjoy life whilst the environment is stable for the next couple of generations. The generations after that - I think it is their job to do deal with catastrophe, and if they need limits on freedom that is their problem - but until we see it happening, we should go on living without restraint. That is calitalism and freedom as I’m taught. As for living on the moon, it will need to be space stations as we can adjust the gravity to suit us. We would just become inpossibly ill on the moon or on Mars, but creating comfortable space stations is possible and long term even necessary.

[@jackjones3657]

Consensus does not always equate to truth.

[@jackfrost2146]

A good example of faulty consensus---Billions of people believe that God created the Universe in seven days. I rest my case!

[@johnchandler1687]

In the Bible's Old Testament the prophet Jeremiah told the King that his alliance with Egypt against Babylon was the wrong move. All the other religious people and advisors agreed with the king and they had Jeremiah imprisoned in an old well shaft. The result: Babylon destroyed Jerusalem and killed all the king's sons in front of him and then burned his eyes out and took him to Babylon in chains. So, all you sycophantic scientists just keep on agreeing with the politicians. What could possibly go wrong? 😊😅😂😢

[@kfrans1k111]

Often it does tho, also.

[@LarsGsanger]

The truth is dead🥲

[@truthteller50]

It rarely does...at least in the modern era.

[@robertdouglas8895]

People in fear don't think clearly. Peace comes by knowing truth and sharing love through forgiveness.

[@tripzincluded8087]

and Being Humane instead of Personally Identified. (::)

[@urflofit2010]

"Is the temperature increasing or decreasing.... it's always doing one or the other"...... EXACTLY!!!

[@WyattCayer]

Not an an equivalent rate when you take global industrialization into effect. Yes it changes and goes up and down over thousands of years, but the variables have change dramatically since the creation of our new societies. We don't have enough information to say that it's natural. Humans tend to take action only after shit has hit the fan rather than preventing it in the first place.

[@HiDeguild]

I know that him saying this reassures you, but he's wrong. His statements are very reductionist and don't even scratch the surface of the real scientific conclusions that are being made about climatology. See for yourself: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppLJY6OAqcaLj6c kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWLHn59-hd-bh6M And here are rebuttals to this scientist's statements: skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Richard_Lindzen.htm

[@phil2003ashleigh]

onetwothree57 fucking freezing down here on the river Mersey

[@SteveSmith-fh6br]

​@@WyattCayer If you don't have enough information to say that it's natural, you therefore do not have enough information to say that it's man made. Basic logic. The climate is probably one of the most complex problems in science. No one really knows how it works exactly. As such, some scientists lazily just plug in CO2 to explain that which we don't fully understand. Primitive men used this same technique throughout history, except they used to gods to explain stuff that they didn't understand.

[@SteveSmith-fh6br]

​@@HiDeguild And here is Richard Feynman's rebuttal to the pseudo-scientific claims made by the AGW hypothesis community. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qojVZGyHbtt1ndE

[@johnhorgan9295]

Al Gore lives in a Ocean side Mansion, he is not a true believer........Let us Pray!

[@richardschaefer4807]

Gore's wife got the beachfront property after she caught him cheating on her and divorced him. Gore is such a drut and full of horse manure.

[@herbertkroll1266]

You can't blame Gore, if he lived inland, too many neighbors would complain about the sulfur stench!

[@jassybee]

@John Franklin Gore made million$ selling his phony carbon offsets, many of those payments made to his own companiies. He flew his nearly-empty private jet to a climate conference in Switzerland! He should be in prision for theft and fraud.

[@jassybee]

@John Franklin Exactly right!!

[@DonSyndrome]

His property is 150 feet above sea level.

[@RickyGuterson]

It’s shocking that this video has been allowed to be on the internet for 11 years, and hasn’t been censored by the left.

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Not a single contrarian climate scientist has ever been censored, cancelled or fired. If you think they have, cite them by name. This is all poppycock manufactured by the fossil fuel industry's marketing department.

[@shelveswithstories13]

Lol exactly! Miss the time when climate change was called 'weather' for God's sake

[@erikzoe1]

@@shelveswithstories13 Climate change is not just a new term for the weather. The fact that where I am, yesterday was cloudy and windy and today is sunny and much less windy is weather. The fact that the summers of 2018, 2019, 2020 and especially 2022 and 2023 (that's 5 summers out of the last 6) have been abnormally dry in most of Europe is a sign of climate change.

[@karenaubert8852]

What happened in 2021? Did it temporarily change back.?

[@erikzoe1]

@@karenaubert8852 No, it didn't temporarily change back. As I'm sure you know, weather conditions have always varied from year to year, generally within a certain range, and with some exceptional years, like summer 1976 was abnormally hot and dry, and one year, I think 1973, London had snow in June. But when what used to be exceptional becomes the new normal, then surely we can agree that the climate is changing.

[@daviddave7769]

All the people that have beachfront property need to be thanking guys like this

[@philosofsky123]

It's hard to tell what's true in this situation, but we can't forget about pollution. Pollution is also an important issue!

[@tamie2714]

Watch "Climate Changers" by Cilmateviewers

[@terenceiutzi4003]

Oh it definitely is a major concern! But Co2 is not a pollutant! But the manufacture and disposal of wind turbine,Solar panels and EVs is the most polluting they that has ever been on earth?

[@terenceiutzi4003]

Then why on earth are we using catalytic converters to change harmless compounds into chain molicuals that the enviroment can not break down?

[@vneck111Q]

@@terenceiutzi4003 also the earth is much more greener now as a result of more Co2 , more vegetation , better crops , according to Professor Freeman Dyson

[@JonHuhnMedical]

I wonder if this man has held his ground over the past 12 years.

[@donaldharrison3031]

Yes he has

[@CodingWithUnity]

Why wouldn't he?

[@oLii96x]

When a scientist "holds his ground" he is not a scientist. His arguments have been proven to be wrong, climate change is real and human made.

[@whoknows8225]

@@CodingWithUnity it's 12 years, and as you know, the last 2 counted as 10, so it is actually 22.

[@malicant123]

These days, he wouldn't get 15 seconds into his talk without some purple-haired fruitcake having a meltdown.

[@tsb3093]

The Guardian newspaper reported in June 2016 that Lindzen has been a beneficiary of Peabody Energy, a coal company that has funded multiple groups contesting the climate consensus.

[@rulerofgods215]

Thank you I needed to hear that I hear the sky is falling so many times a day it's crazy.

[@wayneballintine9532]

@Zarion 11 Bullshit

[@dasGagaTier]

Don't forget, this is a ten years old video, and meanwhile, measurements have show that Lindzen was wrong. He famously predicted that cloud cover would counteract global warming, but this has been disproven by the meansurements. We are currently in the hottest month ever recorded, the predicted warming impacts are occurring in real time all around us. And yet this is just the beginning.

[@jeffwestbrooke279]

@@dasGagaTier maybe you are in warmest month but we aren't. Mildest summer and coldest winter here in 40 years. You are conflating "weather" and "climate". You are excited to say Lindzen is wrong (I have not yet verified) but u forgot to mention every single one of the 118 alarmist climate models have failed. All of your scientists are not only wrong but as wrong as u can be!

[@dasGagaTier]

@@jeffwestbrooke279 This is not about local weather but about the global average. Globally it was the hottest month ever since records began. That doesn't mean that there weren't places with snow and ice. Which "118 climate alarmist climate models" are you referring to? Actually climate science has a stunningly good track record. Take for instance Hansen's 1989 temperature forecast for a scenario with linear C02 growth. That's the scenario that became reality. And the increase in temperature he predicted for today three decades ago is pretty much exactly what we see. If you have examples of failed predictions, bring them on.

[@jeffwestbrooke279]

@@dasGagaTier kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3ezg4CMZ9Vombs

[@niklashall5969]

This man needs to be interviewd on fox news IMMEDIATLY

[@MrFg1980]

You demonstrate profound ignorance here. Was that your intention?

[@PHENN7]

Great, fake news and fake science belong together.

[@obo2881]

😬

[@MarcoVermeij]

He's been on numerous platforms, but the MSM has bought into the change and science is settled narrative, so they want no dissent

[@gretamoney8017]

Thank you for bringing reason and civil discourse to this topic

[@morenofranco9235]

This a "DON'T LOOK UP" moment.

[@northernlight4614]

He ignores the facts. We had about 2 billion people in the world in 1920. We now have almost 8 billion. How many cars were on the roads in 1920 versus today? You Tube is great for music but other sources need to be questioned. Throw in the fact that this video is from 2011 and it is way outdated.

[@joebeezy9471]

@@northernlight4614 yeah, you’re right. I still can’t believe Manhattan is completely underwater. All those glaciers are just gone. Antarctica is now a desert. It’s been crazy. I’ve already died from the mini ice age in the 70s. I died again from the acid rain of the 80s. Then I died again from the hole in the ozone layer in the 90s. I died yet again from global warming of the 2000s. I’m going to continue to die from “climate change” because the climate will always change. When will these scientists tell me I can live? The answer is never. Why would they? It’s a trillion dollar industry. Imagine what would happen if they said “we’re gonna be fine”? No one would pay them. As long as they keep scaring us into thinking we’re all doomed they will keep getting paid big money. Fear sells. Fear also gets us to turn on one another. Like everyone who believes global warming is going to kill us all and we only have 12 years left...those people would do anything to feel like they’re saving the planet for future generations. Even kill off half the world’s population. But go on...turn on your fellow man simply because you believe some BS that is making a lot of people very rich. Sounds like a good idea.

[@luisuribe5432]

@@northernlight4614 its not outdated everything he’s saying still stands today. Solutions involving trillions of dollars will be proposed and the money will go to the politicians...

[@northernlight4614]

@@luisuribe5432 The video is from 11 years ago. Things have changed.

[@lemmetellusum4884]

No matter what happens, drama queens will make sure it gets even worse.

[@jean-pascalheynemand3271]

People have been made to fear change rather then accepting that everything is constantly changing.

[@slowbill432]

when you get to a certain depth , the water temp. has not changed in thousands of years. water raises with many things like he says...including expansion of heating the top layer , goes up and down with time....global change is normal...

[@Gordonz1]

It is wise to ask what model of ethical , economic, ecological and emotional intelligence you are using in response to the U.S. gov 13 agency warning. Can you tell me what school you went to . You should warn others they did not properly educate you in critical thinking. Then again that is the way gov control their population by not educating them. Adding giga tonnes of CO2 is not normal Didn't any one tell you that

[@slowbill432]

SORRY TO USE TRUTH ..lol PS...i live by the sea..has not risen in 70 years that i have been here..dumb ass....hahaha www.windows2universe.org/earth/Water/temp.html

[@slowbill432]

thanks for the thumbs up

[@AsttoScott]

@@Gordonz1 1. CO2 is plant food. 2. CO2 does not cause the world to magically heat up. In fact it does the exact opposite. 3. The world has actually been gradually cooling down, we are on the cusp of another Ice Age.

[@bathtubgin404]

Is that why the Corral Reefs are dying and there is no more salmon runs in the north pacific. Dont believe me. Ask people who go up there to fish.

[@edwarddejong8025]

A fantastic 5 minute talk. I wish more people would have his calm, scientific attitude. And his comments about how all research is funded by the government should start a very interesting conversation about how we can try to decouple politics from science.

[@morenofranco9235]

This a "DON'T LOOK UP" moment.

[@thedon98677]

@@morenofranco9235 this is an idiot

[@robertosanchez8793]

@@morenofranco9235 THEY make movies and shows like that to mock us

[@matthiasg4843]

and here we are. Warmest June ever

[@edwarddejong8025]

@@matthiasg4843 the point he is making is that the man made contributions are minor. the earth has been a great deal warmer before

[@susanreeve9430]

Who is this? Richard Siegmund Lindzen (born February 8, 1940) is an American atmospheric physicist known for his work in the dynamics of the middle atmosphere, atmospheric tides, and ozone photochemistry. He is the author of more than 200 scientific papers. From 1972 to 1982, he served as the Gordon McKay Professor of Dynamic Meteorology at Harvard University. In 1983, he was appointed as the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where he would remain until his retirement in 2013. Lindzen has disputed the scientific consensus on climate change and criticizes what he has called "climate alarmism".

[@steven4315]

I watched this video because I try to avoid confirmation bias. He said the earth is always changing, can't argue with that. You still need to take those changes into account.. If you own a home in the desert and your well goes dry it does not matter if the cause is natural, man made or little green men came down from Mars and took your water in the middle of the night your well is still dry.

[@nortonnewmann3711]

The aquifer your well draws from was probably sucked dry by a Las Vegas desert golf course. What could be "more natural"?

[@svaz2006]

The problem is that politicians take, "was probably", turn it into dogma for their militant base and sycophantic media, and pass laws that give gov goons the legal authority to assault peaceable ppl.

[@libearl828]

He denies the changes are more rapid than we have ever experienced

[@goldwingdwarrior]

@@libearl828 that doesn’t mean they were manmade.

[@erikzoe1]

@@goldwingdwarrior No, and nor does it mean they aren't manmade.

[@ryanhall4745]

probably one of the best videos on KZbin, and only 400,000 views in 12 years. please share this. youtube obviously doesn't like truth.

[@scribblescrabble3185]

lol, you like to hear the talking points of the Heartland and Cato Institute (a.k.a. lies) that much?

[@uploadingcontent]

Now doubled to more than 800k views in 14 years. Glad I saw this video. No ads. I wonder why 🤔

[@ausbare140]

Who cares if it is true or false let's clean up the planet.

[@unitgamex2972]

Ikr. By the time all the ice melts, we will be living on other planets

[@terryrodbourn2793]

We only live between ice Ages!

[@pmor5992]

worry is interest paid on trouble that has not occurred ;-)

[@tiagociriaco7380]

Right, and you pay it with loss of energy.

[@jacksnyder5526]

on a debt you may not owe ;)

[@tiagociriaco7380]

@@jacksnyder5526 you are absolutely right.

[@bigdogbob845]

p mor, Many (60+) years ago my grandmother taught me a very wise lesson. She said that "Worry is Interest on a Loan that you don't Owe" and I have lived that axiom since. Stress Kills, Worry Creates Stress, simple.

[@gerardjones7881]

Paying interest on borrowed trouble.

[@naturalobserver1322]

Eleven years after this video was made the climate is still pretty much the same.🤷‍♂️

[@kpewliu4348]

Unfortunately the (weather) data indicates you are wrong.

[@naturalobserver1322]

@@kpewliu4348 all depends on your source. Chicken Littles will ALWAYS find a way to convince you the sky is falling.

[@kpewliu4348]

@@naturalobserver1322 The scientific literature today is solid.

[@naturalobserver1322]

@@kpewliu4348 so this guy is lying, right? When I said the climate is pretty much the same, I can back it up with some evidence. I have lived in my house that I've owned since 1984, the thermostat is set at 68 degrees year round. I can tell you within a few days when the heat will stop kicking on at night, it will be the third week of May. I lve in Michigan and it has been accurate for nearly 40 years. Yes temperatures fluctuate that's natural but remember panic creates control and i believe there's a political motivate behind this.

[@Omeganator7]

@@naturalobserver1322 Its called global warming, not warming around your house. For example, this graph shows the warming for the country I live in, since they started proper measurements: www.helmholtz-klima.de/sites/default/files/styles/overlay/public/medien/bilder/13_Bereits%201%2C6%20Grad%20Erw%C3%A4rmung%20%E2%80%93%20deutlich%20mehr%20als%20der%20weltweite%20Durchschnitt_neu_V2.PNG.jpg?itok=ZML-Hg7k Even more interestingly, this graph shows the change for the US: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_the_United_States#/media/File:1900-_Temperature_change_in_the_United_States_(color-coded_map).png Some regions even got cooler, and this is to no surprise of the climate scientists. But the country as a whole, warmed up a lot, as for example stronger hurricanes and forrest fires showed. "i believe there's a political motivate behind this." I know this one is hard to swallow for some Americans, but there are indeed many other countries on this planet, and despite their varying political systems and agendas, their scientists all come to very similar results.

[@007Spadge]

It would be nice to have open discussions about this subject. It's a sensitive subject which shouldn't be politicized imo

[@Desmondbrown73]

It’s being used to manipulate you versus me, of course it will be politicized. Your point of you versus mine, who is right? who cares?

[@dangremillion]

Write Al Gore and ask him if he will have an open discussion or a debate with a person who opposes his view on Climate Change.

[@ThekiBoran]

@@dangremillion When Al Gore was born there were about 5,000 polar bears, today only 25,000 remain.

[@dangremillion]

@@ThekiBoran I heard he dated a few in Nashville.

[@tanimation7289]

@@ThekiBoran Yes the population is thriving so there going to be all right.

[@ti08287]

souns even more actual than 12 years ago

[@colinellicott9737]

He casts doubt on everything, impugns motives, and closes with policy changes will hurt people. The status quo would be a solution to data that shows status quo. It doesn't.

[@Pamelaandjoulepii]

How come we can’t see the likes??? I find this very interesting and I like to be knowledgeable in this topic 👍👍

[@KD-cg9iq]

I can't even give a like , what's going on ?

[@GordoGambler]

That's how commies CONTROL you.

[@brianarbenz7206]

This was 11 years ago. How he feels _now_ is what matters. Since 2011, when this interview was done, almost everything the environmentalists warned about has happened. Let's see an update.

[@jakethemistakeRulez]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHTKdnSjp5llr6s

[@yagodas2942]

Doesnt anyone know about geoengineering of the weather & then they tell you its clomate change , wakeup people.

[@MobiusMinded]

Bullshit. But be a dupe by all means.

[@brianarbenz7206]

@@MobiusMinded Who are you referring to in that comment, me or Tik Tok dances?

[@takenomorimonster]

Nothing has changed. They keep moving the goal posts to fit their conclusions. Antithesis of true science. All true scientists should be trying to prove climate change is false, if they can’t than it could be a story. Working to prove something is true is not how science was practiced for many many years.

[@thomasmyers9128]

2 miles thick of ice in North America came and went…. All without man’s interference…. Amazing

[@anthonymorris5084]

And humanity survived without an ounce of technology.

[@thomasmyers9128]

@@anthonymorris5084 … it’s all about taxing and controlling folks….

[@anthonymorris5084]

@@thomasmyers9128 Agreed. More definitively it's about ending capitalism and undermining the Western world which they openly despise. They want to create chaos and usher in their Marxist "utopia". What better way to achieve this than to deprive the Western world of inexpensive reliable energy, the foundation of industrialization and Western power and prosperity. What better tactic than to shame everybody into believing they're destroying the planet. Cheers.

[@matternst1442]

I honestly don’t worry because of falling birth rates in developed countries. Like who are we to tell developing countries what to do?

[@nicksomebody9532]

I’ve come to realize at this point in my life that if the media, politicians, and celebrities are supporting/promoting something, that usually means you should probably go the support the other direction. The world is not what it seems. Question everything!

[@michaelfoulkes9502]

It’s called critical thinking

[@original6hockey402]

Smart, logical guy, not the panic our media portrays.

[@unitgamex2972]

Ikr. There is no way to control it anyway

[@rilke1791]

@@unitgamex2972 hm? How can we not control anthropogenic climate change? You can reference the ice age all you want.but do you not realize the global average temperature is changing faster than it ever has in all of earth's history? It's not all about just hot or cold, it's about wind patterns, plate tectonics. Temperature does play a huge part but ignoring the insane amount of CO2 emissions is ignorant. Also citing the little amount of CO2 in our atmosphere also doesn't work. Because even though it is less than 1% of our atmosphere, it should be 100 times less than it is now. We absolutely have the power to control the climate. We are going into the 6th mass extinction and you people are the reason no one will do anything about it. I'm starting to rethink if freedom of speech was a good idea

[@unitgamex2972]

@@rilke1791 I'm not reading all of your bs.

[@calvinsylveste8474]

Anyone willing to tell you your delusions are real always appear smart & logical.

[@jimr5855]

this remains among the best few minutes on the topic, along with the clip from Thomas Sowell on the need for crusades.

[@Proemed44G]

What ? Whats the best ? Lindzen is a paid oil consultant passing off bad science whats great about that ?

[@DoubleplusUngoodthinkful]

I grew up on the seashore. Every time I go back, the ocean is right where I left it.

[@redvodka1933]

Reminds me of the piece of common wisdom that the people who keep screaming about rising sea levels all own ocean front properties.

[@DoubleplusUngoodthinkful]

@@redvodka1933 LOL...yup.

[@anmold5676]

3.4mm per year is not exactly a change you can notice with your eyes.

[@DoubleplusUngoodthinkful]

@@anmold5676 but 17cm in my lifetime absolutely is.

[@VVVVV99611]

12 years later and this is randomly recommended to me.

[@rileyboyer3582]

Same here lmao find it really interesting that now this is resurfacing. Almost like someone's trying to calm us down even though all the evidence is pointing that alarmism is something that's warranted

[@philwilson609]

The guy is working for Chevron. The huxter says that the government drives the science while getting a payoff from The Koch Foundation.@@rileyboyer3582

[@scribblescrabble3185]

yeah, google has a thing for large companies not pulling their weight and finding excuses.

[@jbp122]

Thank you KZbin for providing context 😉

[@cervelo9465]

Watched - August 2024 - thank you. Subscribed.

[@johnsmythe7940]

I will comment in ten years time.

[@darrenbulger3097]

John Smythe You’ve had 10 years of this dogma already. Aren’t we supposed to be under water by now?

[@malibularry3023]

Darren Bulger, sorry to correct you but it’s been 31 years. Right about the time that the ozone layer money fountain went dry, interestingly enough.

[@darrenbulger3097]

Malibu Larry No arguments there Larry. The Club of Rome admittedly cooked up this whole scheme way back in the 1970’s And wrote about it in their 1992 book ‘The First Global Revolution ‘ it’s all in black and white peeps! As far as the Ozone.. I read once that DuPont had came up with a new type of refrigerant and cooked up the whole ozone thing to secure and dominate the market. Any truth to that?

[@malibularry3023]

Darren Bulger, that would be funny as hell if that’s why the ozone scare disappeared after they outlawed Freon as a coolant, haha!

[@darrenbulger3097]

Malibu Larry Yes .. once they banned aerosols and Freon the subject was changed forever. This whole thing is designed to keep us in fear and looking to our masters for guidance that’s all.

[@jonminnella4157]

the man has a nice way of talking

[@Sean-st5ud]

very mello .... I like mello individuals

[@savedfaves]

It's called calmness. More humans could do with a dose of it.

[@jacksgirl23]

We need more logical thinking like this today. Where did the real science go?

[@pegg38]

My personal opinion TR is the science left when men no longer agreed the formula for the acceleration rate of gravity was thirty two feet per second squared. Ten seconds is still ten seconds on planet earth and National Geographic was correct in saying both towers fell in 10 seconds. It just seems no one cares to hear it, or what it implies. Fear is a powerful tool.

[@mochiebellina8190]

Obviously science went out the window as the co^id scamdemic proved so dramatically.

[@Proemed44G]

Except Lindzen is a paid oil consultant... Or do U only care about when its not what U want to hear ?

[@jacksgirl23]

@@Proemed44G really? Source?

[@Proemed44G]

@@jacksgirl23 Lindzen is a paid consultant of the CATO institute which was started by the Koch brothers.... Im all about real science. To pretend that the CATO institute is an unbiased source is laughable... The Koch brothers have made billions in the oil industry

[@echo-trip-1]

What we’re talking about is warming, which is in fact happening, and it leads to higher record temperatures almost every year in hot parts of the world.

[@bucky4047]

Prove it.

[@echo-trip-1]

@@bucky4047 - So you don’t believe the record temperatures are real?

[@markylon]

The planet has not increased even 1c in 100 years. GO LOOK IT UP.

[@tonyclifton265]

i'm still worried about depletion of the ozone layer in the 80s. i expect we have no more ozone now.

[@slendii366]

Our ozone layer is fine.

[@tonyclifton265]

@@slendii366 i was referring sarcastically to the ozone alarmists of the 80s

[@slendii366]

@@tonyclifton265 ahh

[@MarcoVermeij]

your screen name gave it away :-) @@tonyclifton265

[@khvediri]

@@tonyclifton265but like, the ozone hole has reversed only because alarmists have pushed governments to take action and they did by banning CFC’s

[@eppiehemsley6556]

WE'RE ARRRRRL DOOOOOMED. As Private Fraser would have exclaimed.

[@carlosvincento3982]

in the 70's scientists claimed we were heading for another ice age because of global temperatures dropping

[@Pouly__]

That was a fake report.

[@rip5905]

Not an ice age but a slight decrease in temperatures yes... but because of humans this is not going to happen

[@joanna2642]

@@Pouly__ proof

[@DaddyLindsay]

I was taught it at school. They considered spraying the ice caps with soot to retain more heat. Having 200 foot of ice on your head was a worry

[@blueodum]

@@rip5905 APPLAUSE! Yeah, us!

[@pamelatrowbridge7141]

Dogma Science totally ignores geology, earth history, and longterm meteorologic FACTS!!!😢

[@thebigpicture2032]

Challenge away! In the last 14 years since this was made we’ve had record heat and fires along with water shortages and that’s just where I live. None of that was occurring until 2014. My personal loss has been around 300k that wasn’t covered by insurance companies.

[@RubenPalacios-qg1zd]

I've been living in California ever since I was born in the 2000s, and the weather has always felt the same.

[@thebigpicture2032]

@@RubenPalacios-qg1zd the wildfires seem a little more destructive lately and water restrictions went in during the no rain for 4 years drought in the teens.

[@Proemed44G]

@@RubenPalacios-qg1zd Your too young to even know what climate even is ! Dont they teach English anymore ? Climate and weather are 2 different words..

[@IsaacNussbaum]

_"All of us scientists are Government employees, even if we do research at universities"._ Yes, and that is the root cause of much of the bad science we see today, across the board, not just regarding climate issues.

[@sonifer7692]

how would you prefer that science was funded?

[@IsaacNussbaum]

@@sonifer7692 Thank you for your post, Sonifer. In my view, the purpose of government is to transfer wealth and power from the many to the few. Governments are everywhere the most powerful special interest group in any given geographical area. That being the case, any science funded by the state will inevitably advance that agenda. The track record of modern “science” has amply confirmed that view. Thus, my choice for science funding is laissez faire capitalism.* _*Laissez-faire is an economic system in which transactions between private groups of people are free from any form of economic interventionism deriving from special interest groups._

[@lobuxracer]

Eisenhower warned us of this in his speech before he left the Presidency. Sadly, many of the predictions in that speech have come to pass. Two of the most important, from my perspective, have been the rise of the military industrial complex and the transformation of science into a religion.

[@IsaacNussbaum]

@@lobuxracer Well said, lobuxracer. Thank you for doing so.

[@mr.jamster8414]

@@IsaacNussbaum yep.

[@patrickgordon9893]

totally agree with this guy ..10000 years ago where I live was under an ice sheet hundreds of mts thick....2000 years ago it was warm and an major agrarian culture, had a minor ice age 1600s ..now with the advent of global warming its sub zero at night in May, coldest may bank holiday on record, its called weather deal with it.. Our ancestors managed it.. now to the problem/issue.. we are a fixed in 1 place now...I don't want my house under 10 mts sea water or under an ice sheet, it will happen, what will happen.. As some body said stop using plastic pick it up if you can .. comment if you can guess where I live ..

[@marynadononeill]

Ireland

[@patrickgordon9893]

@@marynadononeill. close Northumberland, re Christianised by Irish monks

[@martynradford605]

Just about to write england then I saw you'd spoiled the game two years ago. I live in paignton and if the sea level rises we're all buying wellies cos we're clever.

[@johntrella6584]

This should be showed everywhere as its still relevant now as these psychopaths are terrorising years young

[@Splattle101]

This was a bad set of arguments when it was presented in 2010. It's aged even worse.

[@Bob-v3g4m]

I recall when it first began in the late 1960's. Reports of "The whole of the East Coast of Britain will be under 20 feet of water by 1980 due to the Hot House Effect." Obviously no such event took place, the sea hasn't even risen 2mm... and why just the "East Coast"? During the 1970's there was the balancing act "We're headed for a mini Ice Age". Total nonsense. I go with the real science, that recorded by nature itself over thousands of years in sediment, in rock, in etc.

[@Gericho49]

There's really no such thing as a *"climate denier",* nor I would suggest a *"climate expert."* Climates are always changing randomly, daily, yearly,and historically. There are far too many highly complex disciplines and unpredictable parameters that effect climate, to be an expert or predict future levels, (as all the dubious computer models have failed to do). As a scientist myself (organic chemistry and biochemistry), *I deal in empirical data.* As such, I 'd say I'm not an expert but a *climate "realist".* I'm not chasing NGO, NASA, or institutional funding to pursue such career, so I dont create a problem, fudge data or propose a solution. To expect "global average" temperature to *NOT* rise or fall by 1 degree or sea levels by one cm or two over 100years is farcical!! That's assuming we can even measure such parameters accurately or meaningfully. Tide gauges for example, are subject to gravity and land movement etc. Earth's temperature varies between ~ -50C and +60C depending on *season, altitude, longitude, sunspot activity, atmospheric moisture, ocean dipole, undersea volcanoes, ocean dipole, tectonic plate movement, deforestation, urban island effects etc etc.* Moreover, the "average" temperature makes little attempt to consider data error or confidence limits, irregular placement of thermometers and accuracy of past empirical data. What really annoys me is when I see a graph with the Y axis showing a range of 1 to 2 degrees. Any small variation will appear to the novice, as an alarming vertical rise when it would be a virtual straight line if the full range of temperatures being measured are expressed.

[@jdean2131]

As a Pilot I agree with you. Thanks for being honest.

[@HeathWatts]

You don't know what you're talking about but decided to write three paragraphs about your lack of knowledge. You claim to be a scientist (BS, MS, PhD) but give no indication of your credentials beyond that statement. Even if you have a PhD in both organic chemistry and biochemistry (doubtful), you have zero credentials with respect to climate science, just as Lizden has none. You are simply parroting climate change denial rhetoric, as he is, and credential mongering.

[@benthomas9776]

I wouldn't ask a climate scientist to fly a plane, I wouldn't ask a pilot to cook drugs, and I wouldn't ask a chemist to model the climate. And if I ask a hundred chemists how to make LSD and 99 of them agree on a recipe while 1 tells me that you can find naturally occurring LSD in lead ore, which you should put on your tongue to trip balls, I'm going with the 99 scientists.

[@theeraphatsunthornwit6266]

how dare you mother earth...your temperature fluctuate 1 degree... ONE FULL DEGREE.... over one hundred years....

[@user-Rocket-Fest]

When an expert in zip spouts on about Globull Boiling he should be taken to court for Child Abuse.

[@tommywatterson5276]

In my opinion, the Earth is self correcting. If the carbon increases in the atmosphere, then more trees will sprout around the globe to absorb it. The trees give off oxygen that we need to breath. The ground and oceans also assist in sequestering the CO2. Nature takes care of itself here on Earth. It was planned that way.

[@redgrengrumbholdt2671]

But how do the trees just magically appear? Also we're cutting trees much faster than new ones are planted

[@tommywatterson5276]

@@redgrengrumbholdt2671 what I have witnessed in my days on this earth is the forests have gotten thicker, healthier, taller. These healthier forests have propagated other sprigs by pollennation which in turn forms " dust clouds " of tree pollen. There are more trees in my part of the US than I've ever seen before. I figure this is from the increase in CO2 and increased rain we enjoy.

[@lorcanparnell309]

@@redgrengrumbholdt2671 it's almost as if trees had a way of planting their own seeds hundreds of millions of years before the appearance of mankind....

[@zztop8592]

The only thing we know for sure, is that we don't know anything for sure.

[@climatecraze]

And that the IPCC knows even less ... kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4aZkqN_aJZ1g9E

[@pete223]

But you can be reasonably sure, which you have to be to do anything (why do you eat, if you don't know for sure you're going to starve?)... Also, if the stakes are really high you should calculate more on safety's side... Kinda like pascal's wager, but real

[@stevenscott2136]

Regardless of what the climate is doing, we can be sure we will respond to it badly. We are much more concerned with money and tribal/political rivalries than we are with actually fixing problems. I imagine a future in which we force the climate back and forth from one extreme to the other, mismanaging it like we do our economy, because it's profitable and politically-useful to ALWAYS have it too hot, or too cold, or too wet, or too dry...

[@chrisbullock4400]

So you are suggesting we do nothing? the problem is the scale of the system we are working on works on a multi-generational timeframe and it'll be the next generation dealing with what we are doing (or more to the point 'not doing'), rather than the systems that you are talking about... and hey, it planetary stability we are talking about... not just the 'economy'.

[@richsackett3423]

Thanks for your ridiculous vision of the future based on fkn nothing but the noises between your ears.

[@dsgio7254]

We are adaptable ? Do we have the tech to remove cities which are next to the water fast enough ?

[@jerrydingdong5601]

You folks who use this person's skepticism to justify your unwillingness consider the dangers of letting this pollution go on unimpeded, better hope that he's right. I wonder what you'll do in 30 years if you are proven to be wrong? I wonder what you will tell your children...

[@RoninDave]

what they don't get is that whenever climate changed species were stressed by these changes and a number of them went extinct.

[@turolretar]

How are you going to stop climate change? Humans gotta stop pretending that CO2 emissions are mostly caused by humans, because they aren’t. Besides, there are much bigger issues now. Some parts of oceans are just dumpsters now, that’s killing the environment. I’m not even talking about deforestation. Despite everything, the best course of action is to let these problems solve themselves naturally, because realistically right now it won’t happen

[@RoninDave]

@@turolretar those things you mention - ocean pollution and deforestation - play apart of climate change. It's not a matter of stopping it but lessening our impact on it which has sped it up. Climate has changed in the past but at a much slower pace

[@MrEdgaston1952]

He is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!

[@swiftlytiltingplanet8481]

Lindzen has been roundly debunked by 22 of his fellow MIT professors and the entire 99.9% consensus.

[@jerometaperman7102]

70 years ago, this guy would be telling us not to worry about lead paint and lead in the gasoline.

[@justindie7543]

"You know, lead is in nature"

[@jerometaperman7102]

@@justindie7543 - Excellent point.

[@pete223]

​​@@paulthomas963 the climate predictions were mostly spot on, you have to make sure you're actually looking at the scenario you're in. For example predictions for "society tries to avoid it", "society tries to avoid it a little bit", "society doesn't do anything" etc.

[@LEWOOF]

Everything Al Gore predicted was proven false

[@MrDennis8169]

This man just wants to make a point and takes everything it can to proof its point. And he can, of course, becouse everything has a good, a bad side And The Golden Middle way of Balance.

[@georgeengland8633]

He,s right I used to live in a place which was 150 years ago under the sea.

[@ESport211]

Possibly holland.

[@bobcampbell2182]

@Smarmy Fellow Bikini Bottom. Where Sponge Bob lives. (i'm being sarcastic)

[@MrWinklbauer]

KZbin working hard with their little global warming disclaimer up above.

[@Dzelzava1]

And now we will get lot of other climate denial videos proposed by KZbin robots

[@CarFreeSegnitz]

The KZbin algorithm doesn't give a fig about the science one way or another. It's tuned to keep people clicking on videos. It turns out that generating outrage is the best way keep people interested.

[@pokepal937]

jason winklbauer It shows they are afraid of the truth.

[@arcaneknight9799]

Just like their COVID and Biden disclaimers.

[@douglasmacrae8947]

Just ignore it.

[@Milosz_Ostrow]

Nine years later this video is still true and relevant.

[@simonneaves9018]

Exactly wrong. Wake up and stop hearing what you want to hear.

[@Milosz_Ostrow]

+Simon Neaves - I've been wide awake since long before the climate change hoax started, circa 1975.

[@simonneaves9018]

@@Milosz_Ostrow 45 years of confirmation bias is a lot to undo. Good luck in in your search for objectivism.

[@Milosz_Ostrow]

+Simon Neaves - "Confirmation bias"? If you had a sense of history, you wouldn't be making such [dismissive] statements. Good luck in your search for Truth, but I fear you'll never find it.

[@hamnose]

You should have the decency to give recognition to Richard Lindzen.

[@MartinMenge]

This aged well, right?

[@johngregory4801]

Well, it's still true, so..

[@QT5656]

It was wishful thinking 14 years ago... It's not improved any since.

[@scribblescrabble3185]

yes, like milk on the window sill.

[@PaulSmith-qo4iz]

ummm.....yeah. We're all dying...man....head for the hills...man. Oh and sell me your house, which is likely near the coast, for 50% of its value....yeah, thought not.

[@MartinMenge]

​@@PaulSmith-qo4iz 50% of the value in dollar terms before my country started experiencing abnormal weather the last decade...

[@geneplichota8744]

seriously makes my day....should run on a loop somewhere

[@MCshlthead]

hey probably in the dyystopian heII that awaits us they WILL have this on a loop