Bouquet Of Bullshit Part One

[@Paleoman]

You guys (machinist's) are the MD's of metal. Doctors for all that may be "fubar'd" mechanically. Parts that are broken and are in serious need of re-machining. Seriously, metal in your hands is something to behold like poetry in motion. You have skills sir!

[@jeremydoblinger3609]

Repair work!!really like this,lost art now a days..thanks for sharing the knowledge!!

[@craigulatorOne]

Every time I see that drill table I turn green with envy! Such a cool work surface!!!

[@pooldoctorofclermontinc5788]

I'm having a great time listening to your commentary. I can feel your pain. I'm a repair contractor and see lots of mutilated equipment that regular people try to repair themselves. 😄

[@MegaCountach]

Great approach for this repair Keith! I always learn something from each of your videos! Thanks, Doug

[@nigelwilliams8191]

I am always amazed by the things I learn from your channel Keith, love it that you still use the tried and tested machining techniques to breathe life back into old parts, top work man.

[@cbmsysmobile]

I'm seriously impressed by that Metalmax disc. Think I'll get one to try out

[@jmh8743]

me too

[@jasonstalder5208]

ditto, im off to buy one

[@stanwooddave9758]

I'm also impressed, but when I'm in the store purchasing, I will say I've seen it being used at Keith Fenner's place: "Turn Wright Machine Works." I'm in Western Washington state, so I'll also tell them I flew out (Cape Cod, Tax-A-chusetts ) just to see the Metalmax disc being used by a professional.

[@cerberus0413]

I think if I was going through that much effort to have you fix them because they were impossible to get, I would have had you make brand new ones.

[@MoraFermi]

It would probably be cheaper /and/ faster than this repair...

[@crabbyhayes1076]

It sure seems getting Mr. Fenner to make replacements with more suitable material would be a good idea. I guess the customer not wanting to pay for replacements could be a sign you aren't charging him enough for the repair approach.

[@blindabinda1234]

@Ann Onamous I'm pretty sure those holes he's fixing only holds the axle into the diff. That hub should slide over an axle tube and be held on with a couple big nuts. And there should be 2 bearings inside the hub. Then you would take your lint axle shaft and slide it in and the axle shaft and that hub are connected and those keyways have something to do with marying the axle to the hub.

[@nferraro222]

@@blindabinda1234 Yeah, no safety issue - whatever the hell these hubs are off of will just lose power when the axle starts spinning. I was wondering how it got this kind of damage. Must be a lot of boosted power or they're moving a lot of weight.

[@svernwarunos546]

Paying a dime to save a penny

[@SManninen]

This is perfect example of the sign you have on your shop wall: . "It's not the cost of repair, it's the cost of the damage you caused"

[@denniswilliams5239]

Saarmannin b

[@kevinbyrne4538]

These repairs will cost a bundle.

[@johndowe7003]

where can i get a sign? ahaha

[@sblack48]

Hourly rates: $50, $65 if you watch, $75 if you help, $100 if you tried to fix it first!

[@donpollard9460]

That is so old but SOOO good!

[@farmalltomf]

Keith, another great video showing how to repair something. I recently acquired a gas welding text book from the 1940's, and it spent an amazing amount of text to the differences between a production welder and a repair welder. Reason I share that is the same for a machinist. It is a different set of skills to do straight production work vs. resurrection work. You my friend are knocking it out of the park sharing approaches and techniques to repair and prep chicken shit for conversion to chicken salad. This is one of you better video series!

[@auburnfolsom]

Fantastic job & video, Keith !! You're the Master ! Love the title. Can't wait to watch parts 2 & 3. Thank you for all you contribute & for sharing your vast Expertise with all of us.

[@Gary3247]

You are a machinist, teacher, videographer & humorist. A real Renaissance man. Through KZbin it's a pleasure to know you. Your videos are always my favorites.

[@agrumpymom]

You know them videos that are satisfying to watch, I think this is one of them

[@melaniew77msn]

The BS stops here this was the first real repair properly made on these parts. Thanks Keith. Where I come from we have pain in the ass tax, it comes into play when the repair is more complicated as the result of improper repairs from the past. This wins pain in ass tax for the month! Great worksmanship from a true craftsman.

[@jeffnagel918]

very cool repair video! thanks for bringing us along!

[@lingcod91]

I've no special interest in metals or machining but your comment: "It's amazing what some people will put in a hole" . . . that was priceless. How true.

[@Jakeunlimited]

I always like these "hack at it, braze, then machine it" vids.

It's very educative, on how to work professionally on the worst vile pieces out there, but also how not to turn some into that kind of Frankensteel. The advantage of being late is having the second part available already! Thank you for taking the time to share your expertise on what sadly become a lost art.

[@johndough8413]

Man, quality grinders are one of the most underrated and most useful tools in the shop. I couldn't even begin to tell you how many different blades/discs I have in my box for mine.

[@jimhumphrey]

I think my dentist did his internship in Keiths shop!

[@wlogue]

When crafting that recipe of chicken salad, it is advisable to have an ample supply of turd polish on hand! As an outside machinist we called that a shit sandwitch. Thanks Kieth! Will

[@lumox7]

You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it glitter.

[@electricsnut]

You have the patience of a saint, I would have thrown them out a window 🤣🤣🤣

[@KF-bj3ce]

So much to learn from these channel, great work.

[@henrikfenneberg6449]

Hey Keith.....I dunno. But getting almost 3 hrs of vids all at once is just like Christmas come early. I am no machinist but I do enjoy your content and the way you make it. Really appreciate it. Thx....😎😎👍

[@dondonaldson1684]

Your skill and evil chuckles always put a smile on my face. I watched the Rutland refurb but this is the first time I saw it with a project piece chucked up in it. The Rutland looks awesome, btw. The hubs on the other hand are a mess. Great video Keith, from Canuckistan.

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Wow, they broke of a drill in the hole and ran a tap into it anyway! LOL! Great video Keith!

[@georgeswindoll9138]

So glad for a new set of videos, keep em coming master Keith!!

[@shortfuse43]

I liked your comments and insight into welding on ductile iron and what problems it causes. The results are why you so often see lettering and instructions on heavy equipment, tractors, etc. that say to the effect "Ductile Iron...DO NOT WELD!!"

[@stefantrethan]

Should've saved that job up for December, it's like the advent calendar from hell. A different treat in every hole!

[@gabrieleder17]

I was a Journeyman machinist forty years and worked many years in the electric power industry. I call it making a silk purse out of a sows ear. Wouldn't it be nice if they brought these thing to you before trying to turn them into a boat anchor.

[@jimpritz4169]

Like the silk purse comment...it was my Grandmother's favorite.

[@WtLLjoh]

Where is the fun in that? Of course you try to cobble it up yourself before bringing it to a professional! I am surprised it wasn't jb welded with duct tape and bailing wire holding it on!

[@a24396]

The "assclownery" that went into getting these parts "prepared" for you to fix was impressive... Your fix was even more impressive! Thanks for posting.

[@daveknowshow]

Hey Keith I loved your opening statement. "chicken salad out of chicken shit" it brought a huge smile to my face to know you appreciated my comment on facebook enough to use it in your video. you have no idea how much that meant to me! thank you!

[@johnburke7253]

I have a lot of respect for you Keith on this job. A lot of people wouldn't even attempt it.

[@dgretlein]

KF - loved to watch you work, man. Although it looks and sounds like your having more fun teaching and sharing, than work. Much appreciated ... especially your humor (love it .... ). I am not a fabricator, nor machinist, but I r an engineer (electronics/software) and appreciate learning from SMEs or subject matter experts. Thanks for sharing.👍

[@outsidescrewball]

awesome video and discussion/demonstration of methods

[@notsofresh8563]

Great series Keith. One thing i have to meantion, at 25:40 the velcro tab on your glove is really close to the grinder wheel. I hate those tabs, and don't use them on most gloves so i cut them off. Only a heads up, because I had reconstructive hand surgery from the exact same situation 10 years ago when the grinder grabbed my glove tab, spun around and cut the tendons on the back of my hand... Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for you and know you have had a grinder in your hands for 10 times more than i have. I don't want to come across as the apprentice telling the master what to do, i just would hate to see you go through what i did.

[@paulmanson253]

Notso Fresh Never had reconstructive surgery but I once had a grinder walk up my wrist. The scar lasted about a decade. Keith if you read this I agree. Either use the Velcro tabs or take a pair of scissors to them. That is literally an accident waiting to happen. Never seen hubs that bad. Really interesting repair .Cheers.

[@tracyscott3261]

Notso Fresh a

[@johndowe7003]

i cut my gloves on the wrist band off too and cut that tab off as well, almost had my hand crushed because this belt caught & it sucked my hand into the fly wheel but the glove was a loose fit so the glove came off and my hand was spared

[@JamesP_TheShedShop]

Hi Keith watched for years 1st comment. That diamond cutting wheel is very impressive. Added to my shop supplies list. Thanks for sharing. .👍

[@wymershandymanservice9965]

As long as customer pays the bill he knows what he needs. Besides makes enjoyable content for watching 👍. Thanks

[@matthewkantar5583]

Have not watched the video yet, but this is one of your finest titles, good laugh.

[@oldpup4810]

I worked on a similar larger piece once. A "chunk" of the end came off in a razor sharp "horse shoe", flew past my shoulder and punctured a spray paint can on my work bench. I think my teeth were clenched the whole time I watched you machining that first one. :)

[@44R0Ndin]

Sounds like you might have needed to pull the seat cushion out of your butt after that one! Definitely something that makes your butt pucker. Glad you got out of it uninjured.

[@dasworkshop4967]

Next time I'd sneak out and buy some ductile round stock and turn the hubs from scratch, hand them off to him and say "yeah, I'm THAT good". Nice to see you soldier on in the face of a project that pushed limits that needn't be pushed IMO.

[@Gottenhimfella]

"Ductile round stock" (or "Ductile material" as Keith calls it) embraces a whole bunch of possibilities. Like copper, mild steel, aluminium... all of which are WAY more ductile than what I think Keith should refer to as "Ductile Cast Iron". It's not called that because it's particularly ductile, except by cast iron standards (cast iron being notoriously brittle)

[@tubehound8]

Good job for a metal surgeon like yourself.

[@TomMakeHere]

"How many taps and bolts do you think we can fit it here?" "Dunno, just keep snapping them off mate"

[@normanfeinberg9968]

I just had a tooth surgicaly removed.This job here rerminds me of it..Fortunatly it had a gold crown which I sold otherwise it was all pain and no gain.You are a brave man sir

[@peterwill3699]

Hi Keith,I love watching you braze,going to need a lot of rod.

[@PhilG999]

Trying to fix somebody else's hack job has always been on my list of things I hate!

[@svenp6504]

Hahaha, a tap AND a drill bit, same hole.... that's some pro repair work there.

[@RobbyNowell]

I hope you're getting paid by the hour :-) Thanks for "learning me" some new tricks, Keith! This was a good one.

[@gregwarner3753]

I admire your skill and perseverance. I had some of that but could never figure out how too make enough money to stay fed and housed let alone enough to buy the toools needed. Thanks for tbhe videos.

[@gregwarner3753]

I would suggest that you annual the whole thing by setting up as furnace made ffromone of the new ceramic grills and a shop vac rigged as blower. Then heat the part to dull red for a couple hours and then shut off the draft an let the whole thing cool until you can pick it up with thin gloves. Then the thing will machine,like ductile iron. But given the junk you pulled out just cutting of the threaded part and replacing it by furnace brazing on a replacement. Cut to fit and paint to match.

[@matthewchastain136]

i said a god damn. Hitting us back to back to back with the uploads.

[@KeithFenner]

Enjoy I'm hitting the hay! cheers, ;{)------

[@specforged5651]

One thing I’ve really liked about the Metal Max wheels is yes, they do last longer and I think cut much better, but they stay the same large diameter. We all know regular abrasive grinding and cutoff wheels get smaller and smaller as they wear and you start getting into issues with the head and safety guard of the grinder getting in the way of your work. I’ve really liked these wheels so far. You weren’t kidding about the bouquet of bullshit! My god. And on a hub of a vehicle no less, kind of an important part to make sure is correct. My favorite was the bolt inside of a bolt. 😂 who needs a regular helicoil!😂

[@kmcwhq]

Isn't there room to index half way between the messed up holes, drill a new pattern? I guess they'd interfere with the internal slots.....

[@daleburrell6273]

THAT WAS A DOGGONE NICE PIECE OF WORK...NICELY DONE!!!

[@1693caterpillar]

I can see another great project birthing itself here. I'm really looking forward to my swag arriving and wearing it.

[@donpollard9460]

In anticipation of Keith's completed repair (I am at 9:24 ...) it's amazing what a coat or two of paint will do - "paint hides a multitude of sins..."

[@donpollard9460]

Yeah ... I know - was it painted originally?

[@halnywiatr]

@ 3:40 "No reason to ask more than twice" a/k/a "The two black eye rule"

[@TheFurriestOne]

That's quite the mangled mess alright! That's a textbook case of a project that deserves the "you want me to fix it after you tried to fix it and failed" rate! XD But hey, if they want to pay! They definitely brought them to the right place!

[@RightOnJonCrane]

Ha! I watching the one for the landlord video and walked out to my shop and didn’t realize it ended and this video was playing on auto play. I was thinking oh he’s doing more hubs?!? Oh he moved the old welding table in the new shop now. Oh wow he’s grown the beard back with the rubber bands! Then I looked and realized this is that old bouquet of BS!! 🤣😂😅

[@MaturePatriot]

I like the beard mic clip!!

[@JamesDedmon]

I had to laugh out loud when you said making Chicken Salad out of Chicken shit. Keith you just keep adding mayonnaise and serve the sandwiches to the customer with the bill. LOL

[@DudleyToolwright]

As always an interesting video. Did you notice while editing the tailstock center flexing under load a bit. I am always amazed when I edit my videos and I see the subtle things the camera catches, that I miss while performing the operation.

[@KeithFenner]

Yeah but way better! LOL also how much my wooden floor flexes. ;{)------

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Great work. How far is too far? Your “no - go” chunk the junk and make a new part threshold? Thanks for sharing

[@KeithFenner]

I'll let you know when we get there! LOL ;{)------

[@Logicinfact]

@@KeithFenner it's great to see a creator answer comments. Big fan Kieth.

[@TC-um2ti]

The amount of work you did to rebuild these was astounding! Was there any reason you could not have manufactured new ones? It seems that would have been less labor and less wear and tear on your tools! Very interesting watching your BS salad, thanks for sharing.

[@coollasice4175]

Great video and *close- ups* , Keith. _Getting 'er done_ .

[@brandontscheschlog]

“Make chicken salad out of chicken shit” is my new favorite quote !

[@WeirdHarold49]

I'm guessing the customer choked on the materiel cost for machining completely new hubs? It certainly looks like duplicating the two parts (flange and center) and pressing them together would be less labor for you.

[@jadkylan7774]

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[@darielbaylor6790]

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[@jadkylan7774]

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[@jadkylan7774]

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[@darielbaylor6790]

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[@TomokosEnterprize]

Always likin what you have for us bud. Ductile is a real pain eh. Great recovery my friend ! Love that Lennox wheel. I need to get a couple of these. It will be great to see how this all works out.

[@rocketsurgeon4876]

I'm curious, can welded ductile material be annealed to make the welded joints more machinable? I know it's done with other applications, but maybe there's something unique to ductile material that's been welded on that I'm not aware of.

[@oldmighty]

Hi Keith, I've been following you since the beginning. And now a comparison just sprung into my mind: you're the "Bob Ross" of the machinists...;-)

[@SuperSecretSquirell]

Man, those cutting wheels really chew through some material. Might hafta find me one of those.

[@stevenmurata4392]

Why is everyone trying to tell the "master guru" what to do, lol. Just sit back & enjoy the show! Thanks Keith. (This is the guy you want on your ship in the middle of the ocean!)

[@sblack48]

Steven Murata who is telling him what to do??? Not me. Anyway, he agreed they weren't worth fixing, but the guy with the $$$ is always right. You can sort of see how this happens. Some guy has a drill press (maybe😬) and a buzz box and some electrodes of unknown origin (cause it's all just metal right?) and being a real man he sez hey, I've got this, how hard can it be, no pun intended. He doesn't realize the years of experience required to pull something like this off. I've been there and have the scrap to prove it. Who knows, maybe as a young man Kieth botched a few too? The beauty of YT is that you get to watch how it should be done, then you can try or retreat in disarray and take it to a pro.

[@aserta]

Personally, i like it when people put forth their ideas, YES, some might be inappropriate, BUT, in a different case, different situation, that thing you've read on a forum, might be useful. That's how i managed to fix a rare steering box for an old tractor on our family farm. I was looking through the comments on a whim, on a repair job that didn't apply to my means at the time (did not know how weld a few years back) and some random dude, explained, hey, you can pop those broken screws out using this and that in that manner without welding. That little forgotten comment saved me 500 Euros worth of repairs. I take comments as the place where people put ideas or experiences forth. Some people might be obfuscated by them, but i find their worth, and i'm sure others do as well (where there's one, there's bound to be more). And i'm sure that Keith doesn't pay them any attention beyond his needs, other content creators fly off their rocket if someone dares give them advice, but Keith is a laid back fellow of extreme patience, i mean, look at this video alone, i would've never touched those hubs. Heck, i know for sure, i refused my own brother a similar job. Not in a million years would i have the patience necessary to fix after that clam chowder soup.

[@MrUltraworld]

You're the guy you want on your ship in the middle of the ocean?

[@BillBrasky7718]

Steven Murata you got something on your chin there Steve.

[@ik04]

Great work! Would it be possible to cut new notches on the inside and re-index the whole hub with new holes between the old, filled holes? Too much work?

[@Hoaxer51]

I think the reason they welded the covers on those hubs was to hide their shame!

[@MrTNBassmaster]

Mad skills , great video, thanks for your time.

[@TheCreedBratton]

that lenox wheel is pretty impressive. it seems to hog through that material like butter

[@KPearce57]

All that work for a lack of couple of dabs of never seize.

[@jamesguralski5156]

I've had some luck with left hand drill bits get. Old broken bolts out... That's work....

[@TractorMan104]

Just wondering why you didn't EDM the holes clean, would that have been an option?

[@michaelbrown8545]

A nice repair Keith. Ductile iron is basically cast iron with the graphite in balls instead of flakes like cast iron. If you heat ductile iron above 130 Deg C the graphite will start to convert back to flakes making the casting extremely brittle. The hard shiny area is basicaly the HAZ from the arc weld. You cannot structurally repair ductile cast iron using any sort of heat, you can build up surface wear using a soft high nickel weld or even a stainless but you will cause brittleness so use caution that the weld is not in a stress area. Whilst your repair worked as far as you returned the part to true form it is structurally compromised and prone to catastrophic brittle failure at loads well below the original material strength. Love ya work though. Cheers mate 🍻

[@65sgboogieman8]

Just a question, but shouldn't you have used a 4 jaw to center the work better in order to use a center in the tailstock?

[@Gottenhimfella]

Does Keith describe how he ramped the cutter up on the angle? (if so I missed it) -- was it just by winding the table down by hand as the cutter neared the end? Obviously it's not a dimensional feature. ON EDIT: Ok. I found the description at about 36:00, it's as I suspected

[@fjnagle2nd]

just wondering, if replacements are not available, would it have been more cost effective to make new hubs? And yes I know, the customer is always right even if they are crazy. But I do enjoy seeing all the machine work being done. Great job...not trying to tell the master what to do, just asking a question.

[@KeithFenner]

the project was only 9 hours and the parts are antique , sentimental to customer. ;{)------

[@gostriderblack]

Wouldn't it have just been cheaper to flat out remake the hubs than to try and save thies ones?

[@KeithFenner]

Then there would be no video! LOL ;{)-------

[@davenewland4675]

Hey Keith - always interesting. Just wondering why not just put in a new set of holes in between the old ones?

[@KeithFenner]

No room, you will see as the video progresses. ;{)-------

[@howardtoob]

What are the hubs out of? Great video 👊

[@backburner2128]

Just curious- Why only three hubs? was the fourth ok still? The odd number confused me...

[@KeithFenner]

Three wheeled jeep! LOL ;{)------

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Customer probably brought in the three "good" ones. Didn't want to embarrass himself by showing what he did to #4

[@buyamerican3191]

Hi Keith, Love your videos. I don't know much about much but I have one question...with all the work involved with removing the junk from the holes, why not just re-index the cap and make all new holes between the existing ones? Keep up the good work.

[@johnnybarbar7435]

Seems a salvage yard part or new hubs would be a good possibility.

[@KeithFenner]

Right! LOL ;{)-------

[@localcrew]

Those discs appear to have been reverse-engineered from alien technology. They cut so fast -- it's out of this world! I'm gonna grow a beard so that I can hang a microphone from it.

[@osgeld]

I am no machinist, i am not even a mechanical engineer, I am an electronics guy, but one day I walked into our shop and saw a intern with some contraption power tapping with a inpact gun into a inch thick flange with a next sized up metric (hole was imperial) cause "its what kind of fit" ... that dipshit ignored everything I told him, broke 2 taps and a drill bit and of course ruined the part ... cause while we have a basic mill and a basic lathe we are not a machine shop so we had to call our local machinist to replicate it cause it was cheaper than to unscrew the original never underestimate the power of ignorant and cowboy attitude I appreciate all that you and others in your trade can do, and the fact you are willing to share your knowledge, its saved me a bunch of times on simple stuff, but there's a point that I call on a pro, most of the time before I make things worse heh

[@michaelogden5958]

Man, that's no bouquet. That's a whole flower shop!

[@billcodey1430]

Those 1930's Bugatti hubs are hard to come by.

[@moms762]

Dang, I just started watching this series and it looks like it would have been cheaper to just make some new hubs from scratch.

[@KeithFenner]

It was only a 9 hour project! ;{)------

[@chestervaldes7551]

Remember, sometimes a youtuber that does machining repairs will do something for special content that doesn't necessarily make economical sense- it's to illustrate techniques and procedures.

[@bryanwillman7410]

At what point would it make more sense to make a drawing/model of the hub and then machine a whole new one?

[@juanrivero8]

Not sure but I think using the best hub as a pattern and having it cast by a foundry would be cheaper. Then machine it properly. Keith Rucker would be the best advisor.

[@evanpenny348]

really nice work. Respect from nz

[@RRINTHESHOP]

What a mess to work with.

[@gregg4164]

If those hubs are no longer available, I wonder if it would have been more cost effective to literally machine new hubs entirely? I'm sure it would not be cheap but would it compare in man hours per unit?

[@KeithFenner]

only 9 hours was in this project. ;{)-------

[@gregg4164]

That is pretty impressive for sure. New hub assemblies would certainly take much longer than that.

[@rifleman154]

The first 1:05 of this made my day, love the description.