Early Times Bottled In Bond New Vs Old Blind Flight!

[@WhiskeyRocks]

Easiest video to send, found a hole of old ET BiB in NKY for about 33 a bottle, glad to have picked up an extra backup

[@oubrad85]

Just found 3 black caps after work today. They came home with me. I haven’t seen them in Dallas in a good while.

[@Lowtendo]

I know I'm late as all hell, but the newest bottles taste so much better than the first run of metal tops. I grabbed a fresh bottle a couple of weeks ago to give it one more chance, and I was pleasantly surprised at how much the blend had improved. Its probably 90% of the way back to what it was, but she's still a little sharp Only downside is that the Brown-Forman stuff runs out (supposedly) this year so who knows how strong the first run of the new Saz blend will be. Missed out on bunkering the black tops, so I think I'm gonna snag a case or two, just in case it comes out subpar I'd say give it another shot, or sneak a new bottle into a blind somewhere to see how you feel about it now

[@Chilliwack56]

First of all you have to realize that Sazerac bought it out in mid 2020 and bottled in bond requires 4 years. Therefore none of the Sazerac juice could be currently in the "new" bottles, apparently, according to sources, it is still Brown-Forman juice in the bottle.

[@Condor987]

Different blender and other people in the production process. They also know the flavor profile of the liquid they produce, so there’s probably motivation to blend it to match what they think their own stuff will taste like in two more years. They don’t care about consistency with what it has been, they just want to maintain their own consistency - and the product suffers for it.

[@8BitLife69]

You're still getting the Brown Foreman Early Times until 2024 when Sazeracs is done and ready for bottling.

[@detroyt232323]

Straight from a Sazerac rep. Sazerac has still to this day Brown Forman tanker trucks dumping juice for Sazerac. Newsflash, it takes FOUR years to make a BIB. Same bourbon at this point! Won't be until 2024 when it's ALL Sazerac.

[@tomdelay5280]

Ive only had the blue cap and it is good, better than 1792. Shame I probably will never had the black

[@lionslicer383]

Fun video.

[@WhiskeyandWhitetails]

If you read the back of the bottles, it states the DSP it was distilled at and bottled at. It is clearly the same distillate... but the bottled in DSP is Barton and yes, something changed. But it’s not the juice itself. We did a video and think it is a time frame. They don’t dump right at 4 years, we think after years of making it… BF figured out the date to dump and Barton hasn’t figured that out yet. They likely dumped some stock into plastic containers and shipped it to them and it was bottled at the Barton plant. Cheers y’all

[@BourbonJunkies]

New blender, bottling line, processes for bottling, just a million little things that could be changing to equal a large shift in profile

[@WhiskeyandWhitetails]

@@BourbonJunkies for sure. we said it was more than just palate drift. Something in the process was changed and it ruined a staple around here

[@iamchade]

100% BF stock like you said big boi. It could also be that it’s not being blended to taste and just blended to meet demand to get bottles to a shelf.

[@dahjcha]

What’s the easy way to identify the old bottle?

[@BourbonJunkies]

Plastic cap

[@jeremywinsch5888]

What are the odds of me still finding one of these in the wild?

[@BourbonJunkies]

Still pretty high, we keep finding them around smaller stores still here in Michigan

[@cohoanglervancouverwa6755]

When Sazerac bought Early Times, what did they buy? Was it the label and the grain bill? I can’t imagine they bought the yeast, which is usually proprietary. Did they also buy the inventory and the warehouses? Seems like the final product depends on a lot of different factors, many of which may not get transferred to the new owners.

[@michaelmariano9519]

~9:35 Paisley's satisfaction

[@ncyankee101]

Correct me if I'm wrong - perhaps I'm overlooking something. If this whiskey is aged 4 years - and the takeover happened 3 yrs ago - this should still be the same BF stock for another year.

[@ZATTPUBS]

Sean, big fan ... but I like the Sazerac version of Early Times BiB. But not as much as the old one.

[@garyfranchy7726]

Could the difference be in the blending? Perhaps BF was pickier about what they used for the BiB and let lesser barrels go in the regular Early Times whereas Saz wants greater volume released as BiB?

[@BourbonJunkies]

Not sure, I know something is different none the less

[@garyfranchy7726]

@@BourbonJunkies I was just throwing out a less conspiratorial explanation which would still fit your findings.

[@ImRickJames24]

I found a Dusty bottle of Early Times Kentucky Streight Bourbon Whisky 80 proof. Age stated 4 years. It has yellow labels with red banners. The bottle is still over 3/4 full. From what I have been able to figure out I believe it was bottled in the mid to late 70's. Pretty cool to have a bottle of bourbon that's almost 50 years old. Cheers!

[@brmicmatthews8398]

I really come here for the outro music

[@phillipmain6475]

Damnit I loved the old Brown Foreman Early Times BiB..... I have not tried the new one yet.... So Sad :(

[@kirbyculp3449]

Bourbon Judge likes the OF Red 100.

[@miltonyoder9536]

I hear the new is allocated

[@BourbonJunkies]

God I hope so, will make me less angry seeing this abomination in a store!!!

[@blackstar4253]

Side by side new one with 1792 BiB and Kirkland BiB

[@zacharyprice4657]

How do you tell which label is old and which is new??

[@ArnoldPlaysGuitar]

YES!!!! Been waiting for this.

[@iansammons2730]

Was at buffalo trace last week and saw barrels still there with the dsp ky 354 stamp... I would assume this means its still pre acquisition juice being used... now almost 4 years later. Cant figure out why the quality would have fallen off like that.

[@toddtrent1973]

Love the spill Dan 🤣🤣🤣 So glad you all did this review. Great video fellas. On the nose! Savant

[@OakvilleKGB]

I was just told by a liquor store employee that Sazerac informed them this will now be allocated. They will not be receiving their requested amount from now on.

[@kirbyculp3449]

LoL, it does not even taste that good. The BF was much better.

[@OakvilleKGB]

@@kirbyculp3449 And yesterday I walked into a different store with 9 full cases proudly displayed without a price...But they are awfully proud of their 20% markup on everything else from other stores nearby.

[@CouchPat8oe]

Where can I get those flight boards?

[@tylerboswell7380]

How can they be different if they're BiB and Sazerac bought the stock?

[@BourbonJunkies]

The person blending it is different

[@collinanderson7747]

i like the new camera angle!

[@shaunblake5843]

Certainly needed this settled

[@TRob_1964]

If Saz bought the Early Times name and all the stock Brown-Forman had, and this is a BIB product, there should have been another 4 years worth of stock sent to Barton. Barton shouldn't be bottling any "new" juice yet, so not sure why there seems to be a difference between the old and new-style bottles.

[@peaceandwealthseeker4504]

good point

[@69CamaroSS]

…..UNLESS they’re choosing to capitalize on the popularity of the ET flavor profile and bottle it as something else ….FOR MORE $ OF COURSE! Business/Marketing 101

[@jamesanderson7590]

Yes .The purchase was made 2020 including the barrel stock, so how could the Saz label be BIB. The Saz bib would have to be available 2024.

[@kirbyculp3449]

Can Saz blend two or more BiBs in one bottle? I think so.

[@cynicanal111]

@@kirbyculp3449 Nope, to be BiB, everything in the bottle has to be distilled at the same place at the same time, and aged in the same rickhouse.

[@sardogg]

Where can one acquire those flight boards? Those are great!

[@BourbonJunkies]

www.blindflights.com

[@SA12String]

Good job. Nice to know Sazerac ruined Early Times BiB.

[@WhiskeyFancies]

I'm so happy we bunkered a few of the old ones. Thanks for the review. Cheers!

[@whodey59]

Thanks Sazarac for screwing up my fav daily drinker!!

[@JC_Chappy]

I'm so pissed. I discovered Early Times BiB just before the sale and remember thinking hmm this isn't as good as I remember... Then I found out about the sale.

[@chrisfran1144]

The new is very good.

[@dn1150]

My greatest fear. Is the label updated to say Sazerac too?

[@trackvol]

The KY-DSP numbers changed.

[@jkk4657]

I bought a new one now and it says Sazerac

[@BourbonJunkies]

Yea it has Barton's DSP now

[@kirbyculp3449]

The web site changed from 'earlytimes' to 'sazerac'.

[@jasongrubb8645]

It's a very sad day that's the first bourbon I fell in love with and it is drastically different

[@BourbonJunkies]

Yep

[@bourbonsanta]

I'll be doing this comparison very soon too.

[@mattspangler6386]

Unless Sazerac is violating the federal labeling laws, this is not 1792 (or any other Barton stock) because the label says it is from distillery 354, which is Early Times. So this still B-F stock purchased in the ET acquisition deal, but bottled by Sazerac. I completely agree that the Sazerac bottled stuff is vastly inferior; it is hot, harsh and just not very good. Obviously, Sazerac's barrel selection and blending is pretty poor in comparison to B-F. I will be interested to see how the Barton distillate version tastes, but we'll have to wait a couple of years for that. I'm not optimistic.

[@davidjohnston4345]

OK but 1792 is really good tho

[@dannybeggs2358]

Guys I can't find these Early Times here in the UK. There is an Early Times Old Reserve with like a white label. Is this just an even older version ?? Thanks

[@ericmcdaniel2719]

Should have tossed in a OF 1897 as the 3rd

[@FrankGastelum]

This makes me happy I bought a case of the old ETBiB when purchase was announced.

[@philc1884]

Now I have to go looking for an old release like it's a Stagg Jr?

[@BourbonJunkies]

Nah just gotta find a new cheap drinker I think

[@philc1884]

@@BourbonJunkies says the guy with Junkie in his name. 😬

[@scottleturno5647]

Well dang, I looked a long time for an ET BiB and finally got one. I've been enjoying it and it is the DSP-KY-354 Early Times, Louisville. But now I have to 'protect' this bottle because it went from 'affordable' to 'cannot replace'. Glad I got one of the originals.

[@CBuss660R]

The Saz bottles are DSP-KY-354 too. Bottling location changed from DSP-KY-414 to DSP-kY-12

[@brandon_sprague]

Brian Casey in shambles after watching this.

[@gathofbaal7]

So glad I snagged 5 bottles of the old when I learned of the buyout. It was literally sitting on the shelf for weeks, at $20 a bottle.

[@Chilliwack56]

You do know that there is no Sazerac juice in the "new" bottles yet according to sources, it is still Brown-Forman.

[@mrjiggs8]

Great Informative video... it's impossible to find where i'm at... but glad i have a couple of the old bottles stashed away... i am curious to try the new at least once if i ever can find one.

[@Nickcib01]

Dan IS the shamu show at Sea World

[@terrykoch6851]

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'll now be going to scoop up all the old bottles I can find. Cheers.

[@rpredl]

How can I tell the different from just the bottle?

[@BourbonJunkies]

New has a metal cap, old has a plastic cap

[@OrionsKelt]

Even though the old one is better, it still can’t be beat for $28 liters.

[@joeshape69]

This video made me go and buy a case of the old stuff at my local store

[@thomasmichael6509]

I think they’re both the same juice. Sazerac bought 4 years worth of barrels of ET

[@benross4779]

They should know that

[@EverythingSpicy]

Is there a way to get the old Early Times?

[@BourbonJunkies]

Get lucky and find it

[@EverythingSpicy]

@@BourbonJunkies D4mn

[@shawnhudson1431]

This video makes me so sad! I love the old ET BiB

[@jacobpluister6186]

That's disappointing. I just picked up a new early times today. Never had it before, maybe I won't know what I'm missing out on then.

[@dragngt]

Thankfully I put about 7 or 8 of those in the bunker when they announced that Sazerac had bought the label. They could have the same mash bill but it’s stored in a different barrel by different coopers, different rickhouse, different master distiller, etc…

[@kirbyculp3449]

I did that... and drank it all already...

[@tomowens7499]

Still haven't found either in southern California... Love the videos, when will this be distributed in California?

[@BourbonJunkies]

Not sure really, it's just started popping up around us now

[@twentyfiveyears5010]

Tom, BF did not distribute ET BIB to California. I have it from a distributor that the Saz ET BIB is coming to SoCal this week. I was set to make the hour drive to the store I know will have it but now I will probably pass. Message me if you want for info. We have suffered without ET BIB and Cooper's Craft Reserve being distributed in CA, now we can get ET BIB and it seems to be a disappointment.

[@andrewt248]

Now I'm really glad I have a bunch of pre-Sazerac ETBiB bottles in the cellar.

[@StonedSpagooter]

I know this is a bourbon channel but PLEASE do a SMWS episode just for us in general whiskey lovers

[@BourbonJunkies]

We've done a couple episodes featuring SMWS

[@robr.3679]

We need new Early Times BiB vs. Cooper's Craft 100!

[@charlesswank8670]

I may hang onto my Brown Forman bottle for years before I open it. So pumped that my friend bought me one before they disappeared from the shelves

[@ljdecker546]

for nailing the old one and not embarassing himself, and for resisting every urge he had to jack with Sean in the last two videos and for powering through with half an ounce of bourbon on his shirt. Good job, fellas.

[@trZachJones]

Shoutout to Riki and Sean on the absolute phenomenal job well done on this video. Editing was fantastic.

[@justinjenkins598]

Dan pouring that on his shirt😂. Thats so something I would do myself.

[@peaceandwealthseeker4504]

been waiting for this video forever.... fears confirmed

[@LeighDZ87]

Still behind this curve, hopefully I could get the old one still. Could you guys a do “if you like____try ____” video?

[@tubeagespank]

The distilleries are on the back label of both bottles: Old, black plasic cap bottle: DSP-KY-354 Early Times, Louisville & DSP-KY 414 Brown-Forman, Shively/Lousiville New, crimped aluminum cap: DSP-KY-354 & DSP-KY-12 Barton (Tom Moore) Bardstown.

[@tubeagespank]

After several side by side tastings I agree that the old bottle is better. Glad I found a few over the last month.

[@airHavana667]

I noticed that too. But to be Bottled in Bond, doesn't the product have to be from one distillery? Thoughts on why two are listed?

[@CBuss660R]

@@airHavana667 first listed is where it's distilled. Second listed is where it's bottled. That still fits within the rules for BiB

[@rosssparks2115]

See my bottle I just bought is New Crimped Aluminum, but the distillery is Louisville. It's amazing btw.

[@huntermcdougal5013]

@@CBuss660R wow so it’s still the same juice but bottled somewhere else 😂😂😂😂 I can’t taste a difference.

[@ryanpatrickjones5147]

How do you think Old Forrester 100 proof compares to the old Early Times Bottled in Bond, considering it is also a Brown-Forman product? What's something that compares?

[@BourbonJunkies]

Well early times is now Sazerac, I'd rather have OF100 over the new ET BiB

[@kirbyculp3449]

Bourbon Judge compares the OF 100 favorably.

[@sdommert]

Glad I watched this, wanted to try Early Times, but didn't know about the new and old. luckily I found a stash of the old in a local store and I agree, the old is much better!

[@stevenverhulst6341]

You just caused a run on old early times

[@jkk4657]

It’s all been gone for almost a year in PHX

[@carlossandiego7925]

Great video. Thanks also for the multiple angles of Dan spilling on himself. We’ve all been there. Also thanks for not changing your shirt Dan. Love the stains.

[@fatguyonthc]

Jinkies! That’s not a pirate ghost, it’s Old Man Sazerac!

[@Bourbonsouth47]

Got a case of the old vintage bunkered lol

[@ChrisJoelSmith]

Wooo

[@kempengland1917]

Sad day. Early Times B-i-B was in my top 10. it was in my top 3 as it relates to daily sippers. Oh well, guess I'll have to find something to replace it.

[@69CamaroSS]

😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡 WHY….OH WHYYYYYY do I even fall in love with ANY BOTTLE!?!?!?! 😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬😡🤬

[@andrewyelanich7441]

You guys saved me a trip out of state looking for ET BIB. It's not available in the PA state store so I was thinking of going to ohio to find a bottle, now not so much! Thanks!

[@scurfie2343]

Cooper's Craft is the replacement of Early Times.

[@pdxterp6733]

Does the new one have a blue metal cap or is a black cap under a wrapper that you left on? I got my hands on 4 bottles and unsure of old or new (guessing old bases on DSP numbers on back but sure)...... watching again and seeing that new has metal top - lucked out and have 4 old bottles

[@BourbonJunkies]

Old bottle is a black plastic cap, new is a metal blue cap

[@onggia850]

NOOOOO!!! I thought I had more time to bunker more ET BiB. I live in AL and ET BiB is hard to come by but I thought to myself when they announced the buy out that I have 4 years to bunker as many bottles as possible before the old stock ran out. 😭

[@trackvol]

I live in AL too. Can pretty much only find these one Saturday a month.

[@onggia850]

@@trackvol If you're lucky.

[@jrod7929]

Ya know. I mentioned to my wife the other day that I thought my Early Times bottle was a little more alchohol forward than I remember. Had no idea owners changed.

[@clintadkins5107]

Glad I found and bought two cases of the Old ET BIB a couple of weeks ago. Hate that this happened. Very sad day for sure. Thanks for making good content fellas !

[@thegrandmooch7046]

For those of us that could rarely find the old one, and literally fell in love with it....this is a very sad day

[@RebeccaPaige]

Where are you located? I'm sure someone could arrange to send you some.

[@klenk1am]

Keep searching, just came across a couple old bottles (Mega-Bev) and they weren't dusty. There still some old stock laying around.

[@czrs85]

I just got lucky today. Found a few OG with the black top.

[@keagans595]

Hey guys, where’d you get those awesome blind tasting boards? Did one of y’all make them?

[@brandon_sprague]

Blindflights.com

[@a_z.tazzzfan8497]

Enjoyed the vid 👍 Best part - - At the end when the newbie performs a David Copperfield disappearing act with Sean's assistance 😂

[@thomashardy1851]

Could the differences be between a new blender, the new person might not be as skilled at getting the early times blend to be the same as the old ones. Most like they are using Brown Foreman barrels still.

[@BourbonJunkies]

Lots of factors, something feels different none the less

[@89sooner]

I’ve been thinking on this as more and more videos come out (and I early cracked my “backup,” after learning all about DSP numbers and such), and this seems to be the least diabolical answer to the question…a blender with a different skill or palate that isn’t matching the profile. I wanted to see if this comment was here…it was! I saw one video get off on proprietary yeast…that could be a 2025 explanation, but not now.

[@AnarchistArtiodactyla]

I already know, been searching so hard for the old bottle 😢

[@normlang1994]

The neck pour as complete BS!

[@BourbonJunkies]

We think it's a thing. Have had several bottles change significantly after some air.

[@normlang1994]

@@BourbonJunkies a blind tasting would be an interesting video.

[@ReverseProof]

That was great. Very interesting and moreover, fair!

[@DuckDuckGooseFoodCo.]

My god.....it's full of octomore!!!!!

[@joeyyoshizumi]

Dan is just out here being the SAVANT!!! GET HIM A GOLD CHAIN SEAN!!!

[@tonyn152]

Hell, I just wish I could find some to try it.

[@joshmueller2100]

I would be interested in seeing a comparison to other sazerac bib products. I know the nashbill is different from product to product but maybe you can see what other product it is closest too?

[@godfreygayle4603]

Good video. So the investigation continues with a 1792 BiB vs new ET comparison?

[@pssita]

I love this stuff! Is it still possible to get the old one?

[@BourbonJunkies]

If you're lucky and find it sitting on a shelf somewhere

[@AndrewDavidWright]

I have one bottle of the old BiB left, about 3/4 full. I guess I’ll save it for when I’m angry at sazerac for ruining Early Times.

[@brianmccarthy5419]

Haven't had the new one yet. But I did notice after your original review that my liquor store only has the blue cap now. I still have 3 of the old bottles, so I guess I better make them last. Thanks for the video. Nice job guys.

[@leoruth37]

Get a 1792 BiB and blind that with the new ET