Bowser Vs DK: The Mario Party Rivalry -- Designing For Donkey Kong December

[@MrBizznessMan]

Funny how DK has a tendency for being a Nice guy when on the sidelines, but is just hyper competitive while playing the game.

[@tacoman422]

Really hope we get to see Bowser and DK throw hands in the Mario movie. As a character who's only sometimes acknowledged as part of the main Mario universe, I like the idea that DK is one of the few regulars who could stand in Bowser's weight class in direct combat without the kind of tricks Mario and friends would usually need to beat him.

[@masedaace5473]

Yeah, that sounds fun. Mario and Luigi need power ups and convenient bridge killing switches to win, maybe occasionally using brute power in the RPG games. Donkey Kong? He just doesn't give a crap and instantly KOs the Koopa King.

[@amosdeguzman9980]

They do get to fight!

[@jncfshes4791]

They fought for like 1 minute bowser won

[@supermannygamer2003]

This aged like fine wine

[@the18bitgamer]

Well uhh It kinda happened

[@susiehaltmann3342]

Fun Fact: Luigi is canonically the hero in Mario Party 3, he doesn’t have an exclusive stamp for him. He’s only there if you play as one of the other 5 characters.

[@AmericanBrit9834]

@@susiehaltmann3342 It also works with Waluigi as the final boss, given that Waluigi Island is heavily implied to have originally belonged to Luigi.

[@runningoncylinders3829]

Melee's Gargantuan event did their Kong vs Godzilla thing to boot. They even had toys to life at one point opposite each other. This rivalry put their two heavy-hitters in an enduring slug fest. DK hitting up to Bowser to earn his respect. Something Bowser has to move mountains for to touch Mario.

[@inkorporeal204]

Not to mention their skylanders figurines

[@MizunoKetsuban]

@@inkorporeal204 But they *did* mention that. That was the entire "toys to life" sentence.

[@1080Frostbite]

They had a little bit of interaction in Super Smash Bros. Brawl's story mode. It wasn't much, but Bowser was the one sent to attack DK, doing so by having his minions steal DK's banana hoard.

[@sentienttwig7043]

I personally headcanon that DK likes to pick a fight with Bowser because Bowser reminds DK of K Rool Big reptilian monarch who loves messing things up for everyone

[@gavinsiville9969]

Bowser: “Ah, you must be Donkey Kong! My name’s Bowser! Nice to meet ya! Put er there, pal!” Donkey Kong: “………..” Bowser: “C’mon buddy! don’t leave me hanging!” Donkey Kong: “…………….” Bowser: “Uh…..Donkey? You ok?” *Inside Donkey Kong’s mind*: *Montage of all the times he fought King K. Rool from DKC1-DK64 with K. Rook’s DK64 laugh in the background*

[@bananabolt9098]

​@@gavinsiville9969 DK: [winds up his fist] BANANAAA SLAMMA! [ punches Bowser sending him flying]

[@lukedrotos8718]

You forgot to mention their duel cameo in one of the skylanders games, with a tie-in comic acrually giving a bit of character interaction.

[@glacierwolf2155]

DK's rivalry with Bowser is Mario Party's version of King Kong vs Godzilla.

[@Magic_Ice]

As a kid my two favorite Mario characters were Bowser and DK (still mostly true today if not including RPGs). I remember I drew them together a lot as a kid and I remember seeing the Melee renders of both of them and thinking they were Halloween costumes and wanting my parents to buy them. I was a weird kid.

[@thefawfulexpress9617]

They should reference this rivalry more it’s interesting.

[@Stoplookingathatistolethis]

The Mario movie could be a good way to setup their rivalry since he's probably taking some stars form his kingdom

[@thefawfulexpress9617]

True maybe Bowser and K Rool could have a partnership behind the scenes maybe.

[@Stoplookingathatistolethis]

@@thefawfulexpress9617 good idea

[@thefawfulexpress9617]

@sage gamer 191919 a Thanks.

[@dustymcwari4468]

@@thefawfulexpress9617 they have poor chemistry in Super Sluggers tho

[@ThePonderer]

I always liked that DK was willing to *square up* with Bowser when he stepped to Mario in Mario Tennis Power Tour

[@orsonzedd]

There's also the skylanders comic where Donkey Kong continually talks about how Bowser is being a whiny bitch

[@TheMack625]

Very amusing! I find Donkey Kong's history in Mario Party fun to think about. From being a player in the first four games, to being a side character in 5-9, to finally returning as playable in 10 and Super. DK and Bowser being rivals is interesting. Both are heavyweights who were major antagonists to Mario at least once, yet they never teamed up against him. Instead, DK is content to challenge Bowser with his own muscle. I headcanon this as a primary reason why the two had opposite space effects in Mario Party games. I'm glad that both are fully playable in Super Mario Party. Otherwise...this is quite a nice outlook on Donkey Kong in Mario Party. Nice video!

[@justinc.5591]

I hope DK gets to banana-slam Bowser in the Mario movie.

[@Mac14329]

Wish granted.

[@mega6662]

Basically Godzilla vs kong but in Mario Yet somehow we haven’t gotten a Giant bowser vs giant donkey Kong fight

[@RedHeracross]

Well, there was that event match in Super Smash Bros. Melee.

[@Deadflower20xx]

In Japan they have weird ideas on brand/character ownership. Nintendo in-house, like Miyamoto etc, will never use DK to a large extent because they feel he belongs to the western devs now. I don't think we'll ever see DK prominently in anything aside from a side game, unless it's made by another team

[@mega6662]

@@Deadflower20xx i think is more how Rare shaped donkey Kong and their attempts to reimagine the character mostly failed (that jungle beat game was many things but not donkey Kong since the director of Mario galaxy none less misunderstood all of donkey Kong character and personality) and this is shown by how the dk country return games (return and tropical freeze) were developed by retro studios (which also developed the metroid prime series) but just like how Nintendo failed the recapture Samus character in other-M they tried again in metroid dread and succeeded! I understand they might feel this but donkey Kong was the game who made the base for plumber who made the company to what is now days I think they should at least try again like they did with metroid

[@ArranVid]

A giant Bowser vs giant DK thing is cringy.

[@RollieMcSplat]

Been really enjoying these more small scale, almost bite-size analysis videos! Would be cool to see some of them (on other franchises) sprinkled throughout the year in between longer videos too!

[@zachnewby4739]

Now we just need K. Rool spaces in the next installment that are absolute K.A.O.S.

[@fawazdjabakatie1109]

“Bowser gets the kids at night” Just what I wanted to hear at 2 in the morning

[@juliusm.9299]

Now I want a game, where DK is the hero and rescues Mario from Bowser. ^^

[@am.bisonmain9077]

Now body can resist the chaotic whim of the koopa king Except one monkey

[@zegop5736]

This honestly makes me happy that it looks like the kongs are the trump card against bowser in the Mario movie

[@christianfrost8660]

As a fan of MP8 I say that game's balance of power actually had DK better off, since in that game the two have a different effect on each board and they mirror each other's ability. But if Bowser tries to take something a player doesn't have, he has to give that player coins whereas DK always delivers. Also in KBHH you do go out of the way of the star in search of DK.

[@budderk1305]

this December, D-F turns every space, into a DK space for us !

[@CalamityLegend]

Those two also interacted in SSBB. Yeah, their relationship is underrated.

[@RomanHistoryFan476AD]

1:44, well let's say the movie begs to differ.

[@DrCoeloCephalo]

I kinda wish we could get some Sonic Adventure 2 kinda story in a Mario game where Bowser gets Donkey Kong, Wario and Waluigi to help him take out Mario and Luigi kinda like the Power Tennis opening.

[@OshaninhoSNES]

It would be funny to see a How good was DK actually in Mario Party, since he was meta in the beginning of the series.

[@PipesReturns]

I would actually say 9 did it kinda well here, where on most boards, which are directly Bowser-controlled, the boss minigames are a huge dangerous force you need to take out with the help of all of your competitors. Meanwhile on the one DK board the boss minigames are just a short challenge focused on collecting bananas lmao

[@kirbycorn4079]

They apparently have lore together in the skylanders universe, with a prologue comic.

[@kalebstigall2989]

The riviera of dk and bowser can not be understated

[@Rediscool9]

I wonder if possibly the Mario movie will delve into the rivalry between DK and Bowser.

[@CalamityLegend]

I hope it happens

[@GoldDragon20]

To put things in context for recent releases, Superstars put Bowser back in an antagonistic role while leaving DK playable And now Jamboree makes them equal, with an Imposter handling the bowser role

[@skylerwarren7300]

Who else love TRGs Mario party let’s play?

[@Magic_Ice]

I do!!! Daisy’s box moment

[@crocketlawnchair259]

Chugga has been a fucking MENACE during DS so far

[@SamDeMonic]

@@crocketlawnchair259 let's see if the curse is true later today in kameks library part 2

[@stevenmattrell3448]

No. I don’t like any of the runaway guys

[@Magic_Ice]

@@stevenmattrell3448 bad take

[@NintendoTV64]

Do you think DK and Bowser's rivalry in Mario Party was ever supposed to be a reference to Bowser's resemblance to King K. Rool and both tyrants' penchant for assuming various identities? Because I have a hunch this can't just be a coincidence.

[@supersem6635]

There like Godzilla and King Kong, probably based on them.

[@masedaace5473]

1:08 made me laugh so hard I cried.

[@dundee1232]

I’ve never noticed this but it makes so much sense! I’m actually making a Mario party game concept where dk is not part of the roster but is part of the board. Not just him but diddy too!!

[@C4rrots]

Like the DK spaces? They're in several different Mario Party games.

[@BlueJack222]

I thought I was the only one who noticed that especially when I didn't know what the heck a Donkey Kong Country was at the time

[@CamerTheDragon]

2:33 lol Cool vid also, I remember playing Mario Party before but only a bit

[@zigslotheon]

Also the fact that Skylanders Supercharged had those two as the sole Nintendo characters to make the jump to become full fledged Skylanders on Nintendo consoles only.

[@cosmicspacething3474]

Didn’t know the characters acted differently in Mario party, or even had favorite items…

[@ryanwinter8813]

I am somewhat of a "mainline only" Mario fan so I rarely play the spinoffs. I play the RPGs ( or at least I used to before Mario and Luigi died and Paper Mario started making the paper theme too literal ) because they felt like the only way we were going to get fleshed out versions of Mario's world. I only really went for Mario Kart because it is basically the gold standard for racing games. So a lot of the intricacies of the interactions of the characters in these games gets lost on me. Heck, I hardly understand the appeal of Waluigi or Daisy at all on account of them not appearing outside of Mario spinoffs ( yes I know Super Mario Land but really, would you say that gave us a taste of Daisy's personality in any way? ) That being said, I always did imagine Bowser and Donkey Kong having a weird rivalry when I was a child. There was that render of them clashing shoulders for Mario Kart 64 I'd see in Nintendo Power, they're both real heavyweight characters, both started out as Mario's foe, and King Kong vrs. Godzilla and all it's parodies in pop culture just kind of hammered it into my brain that big primates and big reptiles just don't like each other very much and must fight. So Bowser vs DK was on of my preferred matchups when I would battle my Nintendo beanie babies back in the day, and eventually in Super Smash Bros Melee. It's pretty cool to hear there is a slight bit of validation to my childhood headcanon that I was not aware of.

[@Antonio-is2cn]

Kong vs King Koopa is a cool rivalry!

[@BabusGameRoom]

Having played Mario Party fewer than 5 times in my life (I like my friends), I never knew any of this!

[@mamboo0743]

With the mario movie coming next year, I would absolutely love to see a fight between Donkey Kong and Bowser Two big brutes, ape vs turtle, strength and power

[@TarvouldsQuest]

5:56 IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS 9, IT CHANGED TO 10 MID JUMP

[@TarvouldsQuest]

I JUST REALIZED IT WASN'T ME BUT THIS COMMENT STILL STANDS.

[@mcpics4448]

Maybe the Mario bros movie will flesh out the kong and koopa dynamic I mean we got mario in there, might as well have Mario party beef

[@tehquiper6796]

Now that I think of it, the Mario movie happens to star DK along with the rest of the cast. Maybe we'll see Seth Rogen directly help Chris Pratt out in thwarting Jack Black, like with the Rainbow Road charge at the end of the 2nd trailer...

[@gabrielduarteabreudossantos]

Hey i remember that one comment i Saw other day It was the ideia of making a crossover between Mario and Donkey Kong Where diddy and Luigi team up to defeat king k rool and bowser that now combined forces to capture Mario and Dk imagine that would be cool

[@Blundabus1337]

You forgot the DK v Bowser fight in Melee Event Mode. :^)

[@Sjono]

Wish we had more titles that showed Bowser and king K Rool interacting with one another

[@ivanzoneBR24]

Talk about how great Krevice Kreepers, Nuts and Bolts or other great levels in DKC3 are.

[@medoesathing7961]

I’m just gunna leave this here Dk=Jesus Bowser=Judas

[@orsonzedd]

You will deny me thrice before the banana bird sings

[@runningoncylinders3829]

Somehow still tracks well with the theory of evolution.

[@deletedTestimony]

j. k. Jesus Kong

[@BluShiGuy]

Monke vs Turtle

[@MagillanicaLouM]

If Bowser were the final boss of a DK game, I pray for the koop

[@mightylionguy2400]

1:41 poor Luigi 😂

[@unclepaul1995]

Bowser is DK’s Rival in Mario Game. But K.Rool is DK’s Rival in Donkey Kong Game.

[@Scrubermensch]

5 Will always be the best MP out there, fight me!

[@deletedTestimony]

Donkey Kong December. Donkey Kong Deceeeember.

[@ArranVid]

Donkey Kong punched Bowser off his spot in Mario Party 5 and Bowser was scared and he fled.

[@jarerarebear1765]

I like to think that Bowser has a mutual respect for DK. Lorewise, Bowser regularly invades the Mushroom Kingdom because its ruler is a girly princess and their defense force is a bunch of Mushroom looking kids wearing diapers, not much of a threat and the Mushroom Kingdom champions: the Super Mario Bros don't really have the power to permanently put Bowser in the dirt. The Kingdom of Kong is a different story though, I don't think Bowser would dare risk open warfare with Donkey Kong for fear of mutually assured destruction. So the Koopa Kingdom and the Kong Kingdom remain in a stalemate, like the U.S.S.R. and the U.S.A. during the Cold War.

[@cowboyluigi5275]

Bowser also probably wants to steer clear of K. Rool as well. Would love to see some interaction between them. Perhaps it would be “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” type of situation, where both reptilians rival against DK & Mario.

[@DiscepoloDiWaluigi]

However the two become friends thanks to Skylanders Superchargers

[@blossom6309]

Godzilla King Kong nutshell

[@Harper_Onions]

Are we ignoring the fact Daisy KO'ed Bowser with a single smack just because "He was in her way" back in Mario Party 3?

[@gwendolyndunn8021]

I love how everyone just accepts the Bowser Communism now XD Also, where's the TRG footage?! We need that footage so we can laugh at how lucky Emile and Tim got!

[@OrbitalFrog_]

Why skip 9?

[@ghammer2048]

There should be a game where the villain is these two fused into one.

[@CalamityLegend]

Nah, that would be very out of character for DK

[@ghammer2048]

@@CalamityLegend It could be like bowser possessing DK for his strength kind of situation.

[@CalamityLegend]

@@ghammer2048 Oh. In that case, that would be fine.

[@Smashlander]

If you want more of DK and Bowser interacting with each other you have to read the Skylanders SuperChargers prequel comic lol

[@seriousquil7161]

What ya talking bout in Mario party seven has DK bonus it’s just a one on one DK vs ya for the whether ya get the prize or not and same for bowser except for whether ya fork it out to bowser or not. It’s honestly more less a better chance than just luck on the roll as you need skill to get your bonus or avoid punishment. And both got Three games for just you alone or EVERYONE. And during in multiplayer bowser mini games you can straight-out screw each other over. While it’s more everyone gets the slice of the pie for DK’s version of multiplayer with two of them they can just barely any bananas or even none of at all. Seriously a star for a mini game is a good deal and when ya lose, nothing happens. Seriously don’t sleep on what both these two have to afford on their spaces. Especially bowser space for chance to target your foes. Doesn’t matter if ya got single player bowser, cause skills wins the day, unless ya waste to much time on guessing wrong chests.

[@magmarxiogaming6717]

7:54 hey genuine question why are there gamecube controls for 8 being shown? i thought that was only wii remote controls

[@yoshimallow]

There's a hack that removes the motion controls and maps everything to the Gamecube controller

[@liamfunnyman6965]

I'm the only one who talks about Mario Party 9, apparently.

[@TheSwordsman100]

I don't know about Bowser coming ahead in the gameplay, after all he doesn't get the approval of Liberty Prime and its better to be dead then red. =P

[@Nick-up5wv]

I'm guessing this won't count, but Bowser DID steal DK'S banana hoard from him and Diddy in Super Smash Bros Brawl. Also Bowser fights DK; at least an ancestor, in Super Mario RPG.

[@CalamityLegend]

Technically in Super Mario RPG it was a completely different enemy from DK

[@Nick-up5wv]

@@CalamityLegend I think they said Chained Kong and chained Gorilla were cousins of DK.🤔 I could be wrong though.

[@CalamityLegend]

@@Nick-up5wv It’s an unexplained fan theory

[@Nick-up5wv]

@@CalamityLegend That makes sense

[@tropicalbreeze1164]

Dk is the anime protagonist

[@TBM1121]

DK! DK! DK!

[@eternal0paradox202]

3:20

[@leonpaelinck]

Mario party 8 had the best Bowser/DK combo. I HATED single player DK games

[@JsunAlphaDream]

I had to speed up the video with how slow he talks

[@MXgamingrealfr]

DK DONKEY DECEMBER

[@emmastarr5242]

Sure, DK may hate Bowser, but you know who wants to see him ACTUALLY die? Toadette.

[@leobardosantano8813]

What game Tells me this?!

[@emmastarr5242]

@@leobardosantano8813 Mario Superstar Baseball!

[@williamharris4678]

Hey designing 4 how do I get the award I got from one of your videos I sent the screenshot to you telegram

[@DesigningFor]

Anyone sending messages like that is a bot, I'm afraid. Bots pose as channel creators often. Next time, don't respond to what they want you to do.

[@williamharris4678]

@@DesigningFor oh well that's alright thanks for the heads up Mr Designing For