"If you add infinitely many positive number you get positive infinity"? In fact, it’s not! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYDIinavZsmeg9E
@Bla_bla_blablatron9 ай бұрын
is this what we suffered for? To be held down by systematic racism! We Democracy. We vote now. Gibs for all Under privileged inner city people!
@Bla_bla_blablatron9 ай бұрын
...and sheeeeet
@netdragon2568 ай бұрын
I didn't watch this, but it's easy with calculus. The integral of 1/x is ln |x| + c which goes to infinity, as x goes to infinity, albeit very slowly. Sure, your summation formula is integers, and the integral is more granular, but it doesn't matter because the CARDINALITY IS THE SAME as you approach infinity! One just grows faster than the other. Obviously, this isn't as pleasing because it depends on the understanding of the cardinalities of the sets are identical, however we know this to be the case.
@Zorgdub5 ай бұрын
That's true if you're adding integers :P
@spiffyavatar36113 ай бұрын
😊@@Bla_bla_blablatron
@vladimirpotrosky78559 ай бұрын
Marker switches so smooth
@kaustubhgupta1689 ай бұрын
yea hes very good at it
@bprpcalculusbasics9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@EaglePicking9 ай бұрын
I ignored the math completely and was just mesmerized by his sleight of hand color changes.
@diggoran9 ай бұрын
And now you know why the channel is named bprp, because it stands for black pen red pen. The switching is part of the branding.
@EaglePicking9 ай бұрын
@@diggoran ***mind blown***
@VeteranVandal9 ай бұрын
It's just slow, but it goes "to infinity" through sheer fraction will.
@hardboiledegg26819 ай бұрын
the sheer fraction will when I introduce 1/n^2
@obiwancannoli19209 ай бұрын
The indomitable fraction spirit
@Saber13209 ай бұрын
@@hardboiledegg2681 well doesnt this just converge to pi^2/6 ?
@hach1koko9 ай бұрын
@@Saber1320 yeah that's the point, this one would converge despite "sheer fraction will"
@jayi319 ай бұрын
@@hach1kokothe futile fractional will vs the unstoppable power of a square
@crclayton9 ай бұрын
I haven't done math proofs or calc. since college but KZbin has correctly started promoting this content to me and it's really nice to see these clean demonstrations.
@KCJbomberFTW9 ай бұрын
Same I’m an accountant I got into school with this 😅
@Bla_bla_blablatron9 ай бұрын
math is Racist! Y'all betta go back to da Crackerbarrel
@pedrogarcia87068 ай бұрын
probably means you share interests with college calc students!
@saravanarajeswaran26269 ай бұрын
Can you teach a proof why pi is irrational, like assuming it to be rational and prove it with contradiction
@Qermaq9 ай бұрын
Mathologer has done a really good video on that. It's quite a bit more challenging than this problem.
@@Qermaq Yep i saw in mindyourdecision too, but they're seen to be complicated (even though he showed that easiest proof), so i asked him to do, because it could be easy to see
@trillionbones898 ай бұрын
Answer: It approaches infinity incredibly slowly.
@EhabShahid8 ай бұрын
*infinitely slowly
@bohanxu61257 ай бұрын
Logarithm: "hold my beer" ... "It's going to take awhile"
@chickenlittle81586 ай бұрын
... can things approach infinity any slower or faster than something else?
@derblaue6 ай бұрын
@@chickenlittle8158Actually yes. If we take the partial sum and compare them for different series we can see the different "divergence speed" by the ratio of the partial sums as we increase the terms of the partial sums.
@burgundyhome74926 ай бұрын
Infinite numbers, just like finite ones, are not equal and comes with infinitely different sizes.
@worldnotworld9 ай бұрын
This proof is due to Nicole Oresme, a medieval mathematician, theologian, and philosopher.
@nchappy169 ай бұрын
mfs really just had “smart” as their job and worked in every educated field
@worldnotworld9 ай бұрын
@@nchappy16 So true. And the fields weren't as distinct from each other then.
@A389 ай бұрын
@@nchappy16People have that job today. There are even people whose job is just to communicate breakthroughs in science and math to the layman. The difference between the most and least educated humans is EXTREME.
@bardsamok92219 ай бұрын
Would be good if he proved God
@dovallebr9 ай бұрын
@@bardsamok9221Saint Thomas Aquinas already did that tho
@o_s-248 ай бұрын
I hate this fact. This series has business being divergent, but here we are
@9adam48 ай бұрын
Clearly the series should be exiled from the system and mount a resistence. 😊
@pixynowwithevenmorebelkanb6965Ай бұрын
A bunch of russian mathematicians go to a bar.. The first one wants one bottle of vodka, the second one wants half, the third one a fourth and so the others. Eventually the bartender puts 2 bottles of vodka and exclaims: Sort it amongst yourselves!
@Misteribel9 ай бұрын
The beauty of this series is that it doesn't work in 3d: the paradox of Gabriel's horn. If you turn the graph around is x-axis to get a nice horn, the total content of the horn is NOT infinity, but converges to π.
@vanshamb9 ай бұрын
π and e are omnipresent man
@galoomba55599 ай бұрын
@@vanshamb There's circles involved. Not that weird that pi appears.
@vanshamb9 ай бұрын
@@galoomba5559 ohkk then just e is omnipresent ig
@CliffSedge-nu5fv9 ай бұрын
Infinite surface area, but finite volume. You could fill it with paint, but can't paint its sides.
@alinasar61929 ай бұрын
@@CliffSedge-nu5fv daym that makes no sense, maths wrong
@matta57499 ай бұрын
Fun fact: even if you only have inverses of primes (I.e., 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/5 + 1/7 + 1/11 + … ) it still diverges to infinity. But if you take out all denominators that contain a 9 from the normal harmonic series (I.e., 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + … + 1/8 + 1/10 + … + 1/18 + 1/20 + … ) it converges to a finite sum. (Credit to that one mathologer video)
@matc2419 ай бұрын
Lol, that second one seems counterintuitive but actually makes sense thinking about it.
@sdfsdfhgcvbn24259 ай бұрын
@@matc241why would the second make sense?
@RCmies9 ай бұрын
I don't understand
@theeraphatsunthornwit62669 ай бұрын
How come the second one converge. . DOES NOT make sense at all. I dont believe it. If that one converge, then the took out part must also be converge coz it is smaller , then recombine them , must result in converge value.
@timonbubnic3229 ай бұрын
@@theeraphatsunthornwit6266 i agree yeah, it also doesnt make sense considering there are more multiples of 9 than there are primes...
@user-nd7rg5er5g9 ай бұрын
I feel like I'm a toddler being successfully convinced to enjoy eating vegetables by a knowledgeable older person. Math normally slides off my brain like water off the back of a duck, but this explanation style was excellent, and taught me a lot!
@TheAlienPoison9 ай бұрын
This comment is misleading, I still don't enjoy vegetables after watching the video.
@KAMUPhobies9 ай бұрын
she toddlers on my vegetable til i math
@thecrazygamertarun52659 ай бұрын
Goo goo gaa gaa daada baabaa
@Matt-lv1jl9 ай бұрын
Bruh how can one not enjoy vegetables, that stuff is addictive af@@TheAlienPoison
@fernando49599 ай бұрын
@@Matt-lv1jl dog what veggie you consuming
@Joefrenomics9 ай бұрын
Ah, darn it! I tried to prove it myself first. Failed. Then saw your proof and thought “Darn it! Why didn’t I think of that?!”
@bprpcalculusbasics9 ай бұрын
I didn't come up with these proofs myself. I learned them when I was a student. I most likely wouldn't be able to come up with them myself.
@MikehMike019 ай бұрын
chocolate pudding
@rhel3735 ай бұрын
@@bprpcalculusbasics My maths knowledge doesn't go beyond... I guess high school level, and I don't really have any clue how a proper mathematical proof works. To me, before having finished the video, it seems like any sequence where the number added doesn't eventually become zero should approach infinity. There's always *something* added so the number will keep growing for infinitely many steps. Given how simple that sounds I can only imagine I'm making a mistake in my logic there, because usually these things are more complex my intuition tells me.
@tjaschicksalVegita5 ай бұрын
@@rhel373 If you take the sum of 1/(2^n) = 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + ... It approaches 1 not infinity, even though a number > 0 is added to it infinitely times
@psymar2 ай бұрын
Understanding a proof is generally much easier than coming up with said proof
@GynxShinx7 ай бұрын
Very funny to think that the whole front of the harmonic is finite no matter where you cut it off so if you start at 1/1000000000 and then continue the harmonic series +1/1000000001+1/1000000002... and so on, it still diverges to infinity.
@CesarDainezi9 ай бұрын
I saw this demonstration in my Real Analysis class 10 years ago. Very elegant.
@cbunix239 ай бұрын
I saw that proof in middle school.
@CesarDainezi9 ай бұрын
@@cbunix23 In middle school I didn't now what x meant LOL
@zigzagnemesist50749 ай бұрын
@@cbunix23You must live in some advanced alien civilisation if you’re doing these proofs in middle school…
@cbunix239 ай бұрын
@@zigzagnemesist5074 Haha. It was a long time ago; it might have been first year high school. Heck, my dad did spherical trigonometry in high school 100 years ago.
@AnnXYZ6669 ай бұрын
@@cbunix23Sheet, what kind of alien civilization taught spherical trigs in high school even before ww2?
@killer1008979 ай бұрын
I didn't noticed his second marker at first and got confused on how the color suddenly changed without putting down his arm 😂
@digitig8 ай бұрын
You didn't know what the channel name, bprp, stood for, did you?
@killer1008978 ай бұрын
@@digitig nope just saw this video in my recommendation and decide to click it on a whim
@eduardoteixeira8699 ай бұрын
Thank you. I knew this is a divergent series, but I did not remember if I saw a demonstration for that. Thank you to show me such elegant proof.
@Rurumeto2 ай бұрын
It approaches infinity very painfully
@philippenachtergal60779 ай бұрын
An intuitive (not rigorous) way to see this goes like this: If you take all elements between index 10 and 100, there are 90 of them and they have a median value of 1/55 so you expect the sum of them should be above 1 If you take all elements between index 100 and 1000, there are 900 of them with a median value of 1/550 so you expect the sum of them to be above 1 And you can go on like that for infinity. The above is not a proof because the median value can be bigger than the average value but it is intuitive and you get the feeling that there has to be a proof that works "kind of like that". And indeed, its not hard to change that into a proof as each of the steps above can easily be proven to have a value > 0.9 by replacing all its terms by the last term. This is quite similar to the usual proof made in the video.
@WhiteGandalfs9 ай бұрын
Essentially, that's the same as he does but with base 10 instead of base 2. I think this one is better suited for children that are not yet familiar with base 2 thinking.
@AbramSF9 ай бұрын
He didn’t take the median value in this proof with 1/2 though. Each power of 1/2, he took the minimum value. Which allows any sum of those numbers to be bigger than the minimum.
@renem.58529 ай бұрын
Just don't look at median value, but the minimum value of your intervals. If you have 90 * (sth that is at least 1/100), you have at least 90/100 = 0.9. If you have 900 * (sth that is at least 1/1000), you have at least 900/1000 = 0.9. ... Even though I don't see how this is more intuitive than taking the powers of 2, taking an obvious lower limit should be more obvious than the median for most people.
@philippenachtergal60779 ай бұрын
@@renem.5852 Of course, and that's what I explain at the end. I was showing a thought process, first I think about adding terms in an exponentially increasing batch size and I use the median value to get an idea of the partial sum because that's what first came to mind and it seems "about" right. This is enough to tell me that there is probably a proof not for away. And you get an actual proof by using the minimal value rather that the median(that doesn't bend well to prove a boundary value) or the average (because you can't easily figure out the average value). When you explore a problem, you don't necessarily get to a proof right away but misses can still be good enough to confirm some ideas and guide you toward a proof.
@williamcomer67887 ай бұрын
Great video demonstrating the proof but we should make sure to make the distinction that infinity is not a number. Infinity minus a real number is meaningless.
@fafflerproductions9 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, I just watch for how quick you swap marker colors
@JayMaverick2 ай бұрын
Brute force infinity.
@matteoblasoni87269 ай бұрын
I have a much more simple demonstration (beware: joke ahead) -> if you have 1/∞ and sum it up an infinite amount of times, you roughly have ∞/∞ so around 1. If you keep up with the sum, you can basically sum 1 an infinite amount of times, which..... Bring the sum to infinity!! 😂
@bitonic58929 күн бұрын
Math is crazy. 1/infinity ≠ 0
@magicmulder9 ай бұрын
The sum over 1/n^s goes to infinity for s1.
@SteveThePster9 ай бұрын
Nice vid. Maybe worth mentioning that the numerical proof is much more powerful as it doesn't rely on the huge amount of calculus behind the theorum/proof for Integral (1/x) = log x
@Bla_bla_blablatron9 ай бұрын
Y'all stole that from Africa! Or maybe you never heard of Wakanda.
@snorman19118 ай бұрын
@@Bla_bla_blablatron we wuz kangs
@BenCritchlow3 ай бұрын
There is quite a neat proof by contradiction I read in a journal: Assume the harmonic series converges to some real number S. Then S = 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 + 1/7 + 1/8 + ... > 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/6 + 1/6 + 1/8 + 1/8 + ... (Here all we did was replace 1 with 1/2, 1/3 with 1/4, and so on). Then, summing the halves, the quarters, sixths, and so on: = 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5 + ... = S We have our contradiction S > S, since no such real S exists.
@tomkelley41199 ай бұрын
The first proof that you showed is really beautiful! Thank you!
@mechbfp32199 ай бұрын
Even getting to a million would take an incredibly large number.
@Hypernova77779 ай бұрын
Because the amount for each next ½ doubles it would take 2^1999999 for the *final ½ alone*
@Ninja207049 ай бұрын
In fact, the harmonic series grows very similar to the natural log. For sufficiently large n, 1+1/2+1/3+…+1/n ≈ ln(n)+gamma where gamma=0.5772… is the euler-mascheroni constant. So the amount of terms needed to pass a given number N is approximately e^N
@matheusjahnke86439 ай бұрын
@@Ninja20704 furthermore... We can approach ln(k), whenever k>1 as 1/n + 1/(n+1) + .... + 1/[kn] as n -> infinity; Round kn in the way you feel best if it isn't an integer;
@ishansh00779 ай бұрын
'e' is omnipresent
@GarrettRoyce9 ай бұрын
@@Ninja20704 I ran it through WolframAlpha just to see what kind of numbers we're looking at here... e^1,000,000 ≈ 3 × 10^434,294 and the series from 2 to 3 × 10^434,294 is ≈ 999,999.5
@aneeshbro9 ай бұрын
Keep up the good content man. You are very regular, and I like that!
@customlol78909 ай бұрын
Ayo the pfp?
@aneeshbro9 ай бұрын
@@customlol7890 coincidence
@Bla_bla_blablatron9 ай бұрын
you #1 Racist
@thezanycat8 ай бұрын
Haven’t seen the second integral proof before - really like it! Great explanation
@superuser86367 ай бұрын
Shout out the limit comparison test and integral test (in order according to powering). This video is literally amazing
@spencergrover68869 ай бұрын
Learned this in calc class yesterday. I think my phone is listening into my classes.
@goldencinder76509 ай бұрын
if you start the video at 5:49 and playa it in reverse with the audio set to anything but your native language and that's how I was taught math in public school
@colinjava84478 ай бұрын
Well S = 1/1+1/2+1/3+...+1/n > ln n, and ln n diverges, so so must S. It does require proof that S>ln n though.
@wes96279 ай бұрын
Nice. Making something littler BIG.
@tiagoandradedeoliveira87033 күн бұрын
man, this is just awesome. one of the best calc video ive ever seen, please, never stop doing this
@MrRabix0079 ай бұрын
When i saw the miniature i thought that video is about Divergence of the sum of the reciprocals of the primes . 1/2+1/3+1/5+1/7...+1/31 but it is complicated to prouf
@Bedogg25Ай бұрын
I hated math but watching you explain these things is actually nice to watch
@THICCTHICCTHICC9 ай бұрын
This is an awesome way to explain it. I already understood it but you made it so clear. Thank you
@bprpcalculusbasics9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@Bla_bla_blablatron9 ай бұрын
y'all stole that from black folks
@fluffyfang42139 ай бұрын
Upon seeing the thumbnail (but before watching the video), I ended up doing similar logic but in multiples of 10 instead of 2. So like, set all the fractions from 1/2 to 1/10 to equal 1/10 each. Add them up and you get 9/10. Do the same for fractions 1/11 to 1/100, setting them all to 1/100 and you get 90/100... or 9/10. Glad to see I was on the right track even if going by multiples of 2 is way easier to explain!
@indigoziona9 ай бұрын
You somehow made it sound simple *and* made me feel smarter just watching 😊
@nechitamarius121 күн бұрын
As someone who loved math in highschool and just got by in university, this is beautiful and made me feel what i felt in highschool
@vikramvilla9 ай бұрын
Awesome. For a series to give a finite sum, it must converge. HP doesn't converge, so the sum is infinity. Your proofs are really cool.
@tyuh8609 ай бұрын
What is converging? I only started line functions in math right now, so I haven't had this yet.
@vikramvilla9 ай бұрын
@@tyuh860 converging means if you keep on adding the numbers in a series, it shall get closer and closer to a finite number.
@Regian7 ай бұрын
Converging is like mathematical edging
@jameshart262218 күн бұрын
Yep. If a series converges, then if you specify a tolerance, you can find a finite index where every number after that index is within the given tolerance of the true limit.
@conorslater8295Ай бұрын
What a beautiful proof, thanks for sharing.
@operator80149 ай бұрын
I remember seeing a neat proof my calc 2 prof showed us, but I don't remember what it was. I think he calculated the rate of shrinkage of the terms, and compared it to the rate of expansion of the sum, and showed that it remained positive for any given number of terms, therefore it must go to infinity.
@SG-lighthouse4 ай бұрын
I’ve seen this series explained so many times but this is the clearest. Thanks!
@MikeGz929 ай бұрын
I don't remember this demonstration, but it's great 🤩
@KaikyAlmeida-b8t9 ай бұрын
@@forbidden-cyrillic-handle lolll it must be italian
@clickoppotamusАй бұрын
I was having a normal day, now panicking about “how can anything ever converge???”
@aldodzb12 күн бұрын
If you and me are 2 meters away. And I take steps equal to half the distance between you and me, then I would never get to you.
@Mike__B9 ай бұрын
I just noticed on your shelf that you had boxes and boxes of markers, do you get a good price on those? As a teacher who has had to buy his own markers that looks like an absolute gold mine!
@bprpcalculusbasics9 ай бұрын
I got them on Amazon, ranging from $10 to $13 a box. Not a bad deal in my opinion. Btw, the “bullet tip” is the must! www.amazon.com/dp/B00006IFIN/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_dl_TPD5KRK4A8PDMT9Y1PRR?linkCode=ml2&tag=blackpenredpe-20
@Mike__B9 ай бұрын
@@bprpcalculusbasics Thanks for the advice, I'll give the bulllet tip a try, I've exclusively used the chisel tip and yeah you gotta hold it at the right angle to write nicely.
@bprpcalculusbasics9 ай бұрын
Right. And for the bullet tips you won’t need to worry about that!
@lbadplay9 ай бұрын
A series is a sequence on its own, so first statement is a bit questionable
@mtaur41139 ай бұрын
Idea number one generalizes to Cauchy's Test for monotonic series. The series of a monotonic sequence a_n converges if and only of the series of 2^n a_(2^n) converges. The harmonic series is a model case for the test. As a bonus, you could show that the integral of ln diverges, even if you did not know that it was the inverse function of exp, using you method 1, or Cauchy's Test on the the associated series.
@Qcattee5 ай бұрын
A very good and clear to follow video but also can we give credit to how flawlessly and quickly the switch between black and red marker is! I’m very impressed!
@clintonweir76099 ай бұрын
I was thinking about it. For the sum of the series 1/n for n=1...N, you can create a fraction with a denominator that is N! and the terms are, I think, N!, N!/2!, N!/3! etc. And then I realized that I was just working my way back to the original problem. Whoops!
@jameshart262218 күн бұрын
That is very common in math. The number of attempted derivations I've had where I ended back up at x=x.
@oyuyuy6 ай бұрын
I think a valuable and quick thought experiment is thinking about the sum between '1/1000... --> 1/3000' for example. It' adds up to ~1.00 which is not an arbitrary amount. Same for 1/10.000... --> 1/30.000
@Maths_3.14159 ай бұрын
Harmonic Series :)
@MyEyesAhh9 ай бұрын
This is basically a proof via a direct comparison test. If b_n > a_n and b_n diverges, a_n must diverge. Never thought of it so much, i just accepted it via the p-series test, where p=1 (the exponent on 1/n) means it is divergent. Maybe you could do a proof where p
@MK-133375 ай бұрын
Your comparison test is the wrong way around. If b_n >= a_n and a_n diverges then b_n diverges.
@hengry29 ай бұрын
1+2+3 converges at -1/12 but 1/2+1/3+1/4 diverges, something is clearly wrong here.
@ConManAU9 ай бұрын
The sum of the integers doesn’t converge under normal circumstances. Under a different definition of convergence or of summation then sure, but there’s a good chance that the harmonic series converges in that system too.
@justinariasluna87319 ай бұрын
@@ConManAU One definition/system used for these types of convergence is the analytic continuation of Riemann's zeta function (zeta(s)) to the complex plane. In this definition, we have indeed zeta(-1)=-1/12. Funnily though, 1 is a pole of zeta(s), and zeta(1) happens to be the harmonic series. So also under this definition the harmonic series is not defined!
@danielyuan98629 ай бұрын
Saying it's equal to -1/12 is one thing, but saying it converges is the most illegal thing I've heard.
@theeraphatsunthornwit62669 ай бұрын
A guy on mathologer channel show -1/12 thing is wrong, basically
@ДмитроПрищепа-д3я9 ай бұрын
@@theeraphatsunthornwit6266 it's not wrong. What's wrong is saying that the sum converges to that value. It can ve regularized to that value tho.
@renesperb3 ай бұрын
A fast way to do it is to note that 1/2+ +1/3 + ....+1/n > integral of1/x from 2 t0 n = ln n -ln (2) -> inf. for n -> inf.
@Itsallover579 ай бұрын
Man, this is why I watch these even though Im not a math lover. That last bit was the first time someone showed me the point of an integral.
@pangeo8183Ай бұрын
We can also try to calculate it straightforward. Sum 1/n from 2 to inf = Sum 1/n from 1 to inf - 1. 1/n we can replace with integral of x^(n-1) from 0 to 1. Now we have Sum 1/n from 1 to inf - 1 =sum from 1 to inf of integral x^(n-1) from 0 to 1. - 1. And then we switch the order of summation and integration, so we get integral from 0 to 1 of sum x^(n-1) from 1 to inf - 1 = (after reindexing) integral from 0 to 1 of sum x^n from 0 to inf - 1, which is a geometric series. So we get Integral of 1/(1-x) from 0 to inf - 1 = -ln(1-x) evaluated at one and zero. Then we take a limit as x approaches 1 and get -inf and 0 when x is equal to 0. So finally we have -(-inf) - 0 - 1, which is just infinity.
@KolMan20002 ай бұрын
Simple answer I’d try to give if the person could comprehend is that even if you are adding an infinitely small number to another number… you are still adding a number
@raimundo1169 ай бұрын
I just smiled after I got it, when he added the 1/4s to 1/2s. Great explanation! Makes me remember the fun in math
@adw1z9 ай бұрын
Fun fact: H(n) := 1 + 1/2 + 1/3 + .. + 1/n. Then, lim n->∞ [H(n) - ln(n)] = γ , where γ = 0.577216…. is the Euler-Mascheroni constant. This shows that the harmonic series H(n) grows asymptotically like a shifted up log function, which is indeed (albeit very slowly!) divergent as n->∞. We can use this to estimate H(n) for large n, via: H(n) ≈ ln(n) + γ + 1/(2n) + O(1/n²) (this is the asymptotic expansion of H)
@methatis30139 ай бұрын
Also, an interesting fact, it isn't known whether γ is even rational or irrational
@zachariastsampasidis88809 ай бұрын
Wasn't it shown than γ and e^γ are algebraically independent
@EastndFTball9 ай бұрын
Sweet video dude, thanks for sharing. That was cool and informative
@TheMasterGreen7 ай бұрын
another reasoning for the geometric proof is that since 1/x has a horizontal asymptote at 0 it never reaches 0 but it approaches it as x becomes larger and larger. Therfore the "infite" term would be slightly greater than 0 (also known as nth term test) so the final series or sum will not converge because you are always adding to it forever.
@ironeche37026 ай бұрын
What about sum( 1/2^x) x→inf
@ItsLtime2 ай бұрын
I normally would prove this via the integral test, but this one is so much simpler and honestly better!
@danteeightsix9 ай бұрын
I understood 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + 1/5... of this.
@stephenbachmann11719 ай бұрын
So you understood more than a 100% of this?
@its-me-oni9 ай бұрын
@@stephenbachmann1171bro he means just the starting😂
@alessiodibella20038 ай бұрын
THIS FINALLY MAKES SENSE TO ME! With the demonstration with integral calculus, I could not be convinced that 1/2 + 1/3 + 1/4 + ... could diverge, thank you very much!
@BPGHchess9 ай бұрын
Neat
@delirious84242 ай бұрын
Hey,im 1 term stud, and this really helped with understanding of the fact that integral is S under the graphic and some other things,thanks.
@bprpcalculusbasics9 ай бұрын
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@kingjulian12027 ай бұрын
Why am I watching maths at midnight 😭😭
@partyfists9 ай бұрын
I find the latter proof slightly dissatisfying because all the proof hangs on the fact that ln(infinity) = infinity. I wish there was time taken to derive that value, or show that it is obviously infinite.
@vijay_veluguri9 ай бұрын
ln(infinity) is basically asking: "What power must e be raised to in order to equal infinity?". Obviously, the answer to that is infinity. Similarly, ln(2) is asking: "What power must e be raised to in order to equal 2?". And as he said in the video, that value is about 0.693.
@partyfists9 ай бұрын
@@vijay_veluguri yes precisely, I would have loved for that to be in the video!
@lawrencejelsma81189 ай бұрын
@@vijay_veluguri... Actually it was ln(infinity) power for e. e^(ln(infinity)) is infinity as is e^(lnx) = x substitution math that is used to especially solve Lambert W problems.
@ishansh00779 ай бұрын
@@partyfistsI mean in general the audience who watch this channel knows the reasoning behind this.
@barnabusowl42529 ай бұрын
Even more peculiar, if you revolve the graph around the x-axis and then evaluate the area formed by the curve from 1 to infinity given by the integral (pi/x^2) dx, you get the finite area of pi 🤔
@leemason40249 ай бұрын
Your explanation or addition of the 1/2s to get ~3 at around 5:15 in the video is mistaken. You misaligned the "1/2" for the next power of 2 with the 1/31 group which means you'd have to go to the 1/63 group to actually get ~3. As written on the board, you only had 2.5... unless I'm totally not getting this
@Lonely_Wiz2 ай бұрын
did you skip the video? he showed the sum from 1/2 to 1/31 at 1:19 at WolframAlpha. It is more than 3. And his explanation is on point, because he said that the sum from 1/2 to 1/31 was bigger than the sum of the powers of two.
@coldandafraid9 ай бұрын
That geometry proof is nice
@vrchhu40662 ай бұрын
Another way to think of would be 50% + 33~% + 25% + 20% + 17~% + 14~%... I just think it's easier to visualize the infinity like this, since you see the sum increasing numerically
@robertmayster78639 ай бұрын
You, Sir, have my upvote
@mccask9 ай бұрын
Taps the board, it magically erased!
@TheHunter-gw7rh24 күн бұрын
I just conceptualize it like this. 1 over any positive integer > 0. Therfore, every new fraction added to the series will increase the sum. Therefore, adding infinite fractions must increase the sum infinitely.
@yayer_272 ай бұрын
this is a genius and very well-explained proof good job once more
@bprpcalculusbasics2 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@BurntPencilShavings3 ай бұрын
Uhm Just use he harmonic progression sum Where a = 2, d = 1, n = infinity We'll get the sum of the sequence as ln(infinity) = infinity Harmonic sum: (1/d)ln[(2a + (2n-1)d)/(2a-d)] Easy :)
@tflcn9 ай бұрын
Infinite amount of mathematicians walks into a bar. First orders 1 pint of a beer, second orders 1/2, third 1/4 etc... barmen silently pours 2 pints
@kpk11713 ай бұрын
Why was I never taught this way of proving the harmonic series diverges! As well as an intuitive understanding for the integral test!
@kckcmctcrc9 ай бұрын
This is a brilliantly simple proof.
@Benny-the-cute-kitty9 ай бұрын
As a current 8th grader, I am SUPER HAPPY that you included the integral example! I couldn’t quite understand the first explanation but the second one made me understand in a split second! I LOVE that you include more than one way to solve equations! Thank you!
@nguyenbao89878 ай бұрын
Not the 8th grader understanding integration... Aus education is doomed
@Benny-the-cute-kitty7 ай бұрын
My Turkish father taught me some simple precalculus 3 years ago, I can still remember lots.
@Iggy_Dogg2 ай бұрын
man I wish you were my TA when I was taking the calc courses
@occamraiser9 ай бұрын
interesting. But the most amazing thing is the presenter's mental agility in swapping pens seamlessly and flawlessly!
@flameofthephoenix8395Ай бұрын
The most simple explanation I've thought of is to simplify it into a series of repeatedly adding 1/2 to itself, let's start with the fraction 1/2, this alone has increased the sum by 1/2, but now let's look at the fraction 1/4, to get from 1/2 to 1/4 we also need 1/3, 1/3 is greater than 1/4 so we'll simplify it to also being 1/4 meaning that there are actually two 1/4s, meaning we have to add it twice which accumulates to 1/2 again, this leaves the sum at exactly 1 in this simplified scenario, so let's jump over to 1/8 now, this time there are three other fractions that we have to pass to get to 1/8, they are 1/5, 1/6, and 1/7 we'll simplify these all to 1/8 which works since they are all greater than 1/8 meaning we're not increasing what the sum should be but rather decreasing it, however this means that there are four eights which adds up to 1/2 again, this means that by 1/8 the actual series will be greater than 1.5, this just keeps going on, every time the number of fractions added doubles the sum will increase by at least 1/2, this is also only if we limit it to binary, in base 10 you get a more accurate sum approximation that is higher than the base 2 version. But either way, this shows that it does not tend towards any finite amount.
@BlissBatch8 ай бұрын
Why are you allowed to subtract ⅓ from one side, and then say it's less than the other side? Isn't ♾️-⅓ still ♾️? How can ♾️ be less than ♾️?
@MyNameIsSalo8 ай бұрын
1/3 isn't being subtracted... it's being replaced with 1/4 as 1/3 > 1/4. It simplies the problem and make a new series which is smaller than the origional series. If you can confirm that the smaller series does not converge, then the bigger one must not converge either. No one is subtracting from infinity, infinite is not a mathematical operator or value you can do math to.
@457max5 ай бұрын
I liked that integral proof.
@MYNAME_ABC9 ай бұрын
Even the sum of the reciprocals of ONLY the primes goes to infinity!
@thexoxob94484 ай бұрын
This means the primes are dense over the natural numbers
@Frozen_Hope7 ай бұрын
The marker swapping feels like a magic trick, that's some skill
@iankeith5 ай бұрын
The second this clicked I laughed, it's a dang cool proof.
@bpr2142 ай бұрын
Integral of 1/n = ln(n) + c. Ln(n) goes to infinity as n goes to infinity. Therefore 1/n is not bounded. This can be generalized by saying any function n^-p for p equal to or less than one is unbounded. But is bounded for p greater than one.
@kapsi28 күн бұрын
Finally a math proof I can understand.
@marianl87189 ай бұрын
1 > 1/2 1/2 + 1/3 > 1/2 1/4 + 1/5 + 1/6 > 1/2 1/7 + 1/8 + 1/9 + 1/10 + 1/11 + 1/12 > 1/2 Etc. Always the last term is the smallest, and their sum is greater than the number of terms multiplied by the last term.