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bprp calculus basics

bprp calculus basics

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@retired5548
@retired5548 2 жыл бұрын
I anticipate that suggestions of nondifferentiable functions will be quite popular. Perhaps exploring the properties of such a function, such as Weierstrass' function or Bolzano's function, and showing where the reasoning for differentiability breaks down in such cases might help increase the understanding of why continuity does not necessarily imply differentiability.
@SaurabhKumar-jo6dp
@SaurabhKumar-jo6dp 2 жыл бұрын
Right my opinion was also same🤞
@volodymyrgandzhuk361
@volodymyrgandzhuk361 2 жыл бұрын
When you say that Weierstrass's function has no derivative, that's an answer to the question "What is the derivative of Weierstrass's function?" On the other hand, it's impossible, or at least too hard, to compute the integrals of certain functions.
@PinusTF2Spy
@PinusTF2Spy 2 жыл бұрын
True. I want bprp to show why the subdifferential (generalized derivative) of the norm function doesn't exist at 0 and also differentiate a "quadratic" function, except a quadratic that doesn't look like x^2, but rather x^T*A*x.
@josefwakeling7103
@josefwakeling7103 2 жыл бұрын
*laughs in the weierstrass function*
@pardeepgarg2640
@pardeepgarg2640 2 жыл бұрын
NO!!!!
@soumyojitpal3399
@soumyojitpal3399 2 жыл бұрын
i am new to calculus, can you explain what is the weierstrass function ?
@jaxoncr
@jaxoncr 2 жыл бұрын
@@soumyojitpal3399 a function that is continuous everywhere, but differentiable no where. If a function is differentiable, it implies it is also continuous. However, the converse is not true. A classic example is the function abs(x) about x = 0, the function is continuous but not differentiable at that specific point. This is similar to the weierstrass function except we cannot differentiate it at any point.
@Taigokumaru
@Taigokumaru 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaxoncr Omg. I had to Google it to confirm the graph. The Weierstrass function is basically the aura around the characters powering up in the Dragonball Z anime!
@liamwelsh5565
@liamwelsh5565 2 жыл бұрын
6:45 I do this so much. I spend like a minute or two trying to figure out what's the best way to write the final answer even though it doesn't matter at all. lol
@karannair3035
@karannair3035 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a legitimate series on derivatives of big expressions like this. Really cool to watch and solve along.
@bprpcalculusbasics
@bprpcalculusbasics 2 жыл бұрын
I plan to!
@coderanger7708
@coderanger7708 2 жыл бұрын
Differentiate Weierstrass function next. By differentiation just find the slope at each interval and show us.
@dafureveerbhadra2772
@dafureveerbhadra2772 2 жыл бұрын
Not st each just find slope at any point on the xy plane
@zhiyuanliu9533
@zhiyuanliu9533 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please find the second derivative of that equation?
@dinosaric4862
@dinosaric4862 2 жыл бұрын
You wish..
@adrishbora
@adrishbora 2 жыл бұрын
This series is going to be absolutely fun!!! Love your content man!!!
@mathboy8188
@mathboy8188 2 жыл бұрын
One gotcha with implicit differentiation: you've got stop and ask if there's even a function there at all. For instance here, when x = 0, ANY y such that sin(y) > 0 is a solution, so you're either locally looking at a vertical line (so no derivative), and/or, as I'd guess, a lot of "branches" converging onto intervals of the y-axis. Even if the formula spits out a value for dy/dx at some point where x=0, you don't have "the derivative there", but rather only the beginning of an interpretation of what's going on with that relationship there. I checked graphically (wolfram alpha), and there's a unique x value corresponding to y = pi/6 (x ~ 0.2), so you likely have a clean local branch of a function near there, but in general, implicitly defined "functions" can be a real mess. (There's an advanced calculus theorem, The Inverse Function Theorem, which will give you some local guarantees, but of course that demands carefully checking its assumptions hold.) Easy Example of the kinds of situations to look out for: Use implicit differentiation on x^2 + y^2 = 0. You get 2x + 2y y' = 0, so y' = - x / y. Thus you get a formula for the derivative everywhere where y isn't 0. Problem is, y = 0 is the only y value for that relationship. The implicit function there is the most trivial one imaginable: { 0 } --> { 0 }, having domain and range both a single element. No function with a discrete domain is going to have any derivatives anywhere... the concept doesn't even make sense. So even though you get a nice simple relationship, x^2 + y^2 = 0, and a nice clean formula, y' = - x / y, that derivative formula means absolutely nothing. Here's an even more dramatic example: x^2 + y^2 = -1. Again, if you do implicit differentiation, you'll get y' = - x / y... but there's no points satisfying that example, so certainly no local branch function there, so certainly no derivative.
@YoavZilka
@YoavZilka 2 жыл бұрын
You could differentiate the Lambert W function. It really suits your channel, and it’s quite nice using implicit differentiation.
@YoavZilka
@YoavZilka 2 жыл бұрын
Just noticed you already did that!
@bprpcalculusbasics
@bprpcalculusbasics 2 жыл бұрын
Yea. But I can make a remastered version or a harder one.
@YoavZilka
@YoavZilka 2 жыл бұрын
@@bprpcalculusbasics sounds good
@YoavZilka
@YoavZilka 2 жыл бұрын
@ニコラ-NR you can, but it’s kinda complicated. You need to take a u sub where u=W(x), and then find dx in terms of du by differentiating u (which is just W(x)). From there it’s pretty straight forward using integration by parts
@cH3rtzb3rg
@cH3rtzb3rg 2 жыл бұрын
@ニコラ-NR You can integrate any continuous function. It may not be possible to express the integral with elementary functions, though.
@fanamatakecick97
@fanamatakecick97 2 жыл бұрын
The symmetry with this derivative is angelic, i’m not gonna lie. Math is so satisfying
@michaeledwardharris
@michaeledwardharris 2 жыл бұрын
That was a pretty wild ride! Very interesting problem, and a neat solution.
@kepler4192
@kepler4192 2 жыл бұрын
You can also memorize the formula for differentiating g(x)^h(x): f prime= (g(x)^h(x))[(h*dg/dx)/g + dh/dx*ln(g)] God it’s so hard writing math in comments
@JansthcirlU
@JansthcirlU 2 жыл бұрын
Could've used apostrophes for less clutter: (g^h)' = (g^h) * [h * g' / g + h' * ln(g)]
@kepler4192
@kepler4192 2 жыл бұрын
@@JansthcirlU ah, thx
@SeeTv.
@SeeTv. 2 жыл бұрын
Math majors are triggered. Not all functions are differentiable everywhere :D
@cH3rtzb3rg
@cH3rtzb3rg 2 жыл бұрын
This totally triggered me as well! In fact, barely any functions are even continuous everywhere. And every function which is differentiable is also integrateble (because every continuous function is).
@cobovega27
@cobovega27 2 жыл бұрын
Is the factorial function differentiable? How would one tackle that problem? Do we use the gamma or pi function?
@soupisfornoobs4081
@soupisfornoobs4081 2 жыл бұрын
It's not differentiable in the standard way because it is a discreet function, but you can use the gamma function and the result is pretty cool
@cobovega27
@cobovega27 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds fun
@YossiSirote
@YossiSirote 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is easier to use the y’ notation rather than dy/dx in this situation.
@Firefly256
@Firefly256 2 жыл бұрын
Why does bprp say chain rule as chandu?
@conanedojawa4538
@conanedojawa4538 2 жыл бұрын
I ask you to solve the resulting exact differential equation from this implicit differentiation
@nalingoel6971
@nalingoel6971 2 жыл бұрын
Try differentiating x^(tan(y)) = y^(tan(x))
@acuriousmind6217
@acuriousmind6217 2 жыл бұрын
5:21 this and this and this and that sounds understandable
@raifegeozay687
@raifegeozay687 2 жыл бұрын
find the second devirate next: y=((x^x^x+tan(tan(tan(x!))) -cos(sin(x))+arctan(arctan(x)))!)^((x^x^x+tan(tan(tan(x!))) -cos(sin(x))+arctan(arctan(x)))!) (yes there are some factorials) (use gamma function to differentiate factorial)
@yk4r599
@yk4r599 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@nekothecat
@nekothecat 2 жыл бұрын
Can you try differentiate x^y^x^y ?
@bprpcalculusbasics
@bprpcalculusbasics 2 жыл бұрын
We need an equation. So what would you like to be =?
@nirmankhan2134
@nirmankhan2134 2 жыл бұрын
@@bprpcalculusbasics equal to sinx for example
@BiscuitZombies
@BiscuitZombies 2 жыл бұрын
@@bprpcalculusbasics set it equal to an arbitrary constant ="🙂"
@ДенисКосько-н9и
@ДенисКосько-н9и 2 жыл бұрын
@@bprpcalculusbasics "the fish"
@henkhu100
@henkhu100 Ай бұрын
The principle is only allowed if the relation defines y as a differentiable function of x, so there are certain conditions for a relation before we can perform implicit differentiation. For instance (in real number system): sqrt(-(x-3)^2) + y^(lnx) + y=2 is a relation that has a meaning for only x=3 So if we see y as a function of x the domain is just {3} and there is no derivative of y. And that means that the dy/dx you find using the method in the video does not have any meaning. What I miss in the video is: does the relation fit the conditions for implicit differentiation? So what about the title of the video? Anything? How do you differentiate the function y=sqrt(-(x-3)^2).
@AriosJentu
@AriosJentu 2 жыл бұрын
How about differentiate matrix function? Or differentiate vector function wrt verctor?
@teelo12000
@teelo12000 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a challenge. Differentiate: d/dx(my completely made up function where I'm not going to tell how you it works of (x))
@m3nny125
@m3nny125 8 ай бұрын
Case one: D/DX of D/DX = D^2/DX^2 Case two: Cancel d and d out D/DX of X = 1
@quadruplay9788
@quadruplay9788 2 жыл бұрын
could you do some episodes on split-complex and dual numbers?
@gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240
@gamingmusicandjokesandabit1240 2 жыл бұрын
Haters will say that means you can't differentiate what you can differentiate vs what you can't differentiate.
@Bilbobaggiins.0
@Bilbobaggiins.0 2 жыл бұрын
I am come on this channel not immediately but definately
@sriprasadjoshi3036
@sriprasadjoshi3036 2 жыл бұрын
Him: Chain Rule Subtitle: Chandu
@genius5625
@genius5625 2 жыл бұрын
Me as calc3 student : why i am doing this ? 😂😅😂
@Ashirene22
@Ashirene22 2 жыл бұрын
u gonna do calc 3 content?
@dinosaric4862
@dinosaric4862 2 жыл бұрын
The graph of that function is just a bunch of squared with rounded corners haha
@zhiyuanliu9533
@zhiyuanliu9533 2 жыл бұрын
Differentiate x!*(x^2)
@Ou_dembele
@Ou_dembele 2 жыл бұрын
Do some radical function derivatives
@yoav613
@yoav613 2 жыл бұрын
This is in class,in the test - find y'' 🤣
@samwitkowski3459
@samwitkowski3459 2 жыл бұрын
now do the second derivative.
@deep24543542
@deep24543542 2 жыл бұрын
d/dx sin(x)^cos(x)^tan(x)
@rafaelgcpp
@rafaelgcpp 2 жыл бұрын
Differentiate I_Q(x) R->R, where I_Q(x) is 1 if x is rational and 0 otherwise...
@ДенисКосько-н9и
@ДенисКосько-н9и 2 жыл бұрын
Johann Peter Gustav Lejeune Dirichlet likes your comment
@mathboy8188
@mathboy8188 2 жыл бұрын
Differentiate f(x) = x^2 if x is rational, and 0 if x is irrational. Differentiate f(x) = 1 + sin(x) if x is rational, and 0 if x is irrational.
@SlemTurnThePowerOn
@SlemTurnThePowerOn 2 жыл бұрын
Second derivative of this one?
@shadowgamerA
@shadowgamerA 2 жыл бұрын
Felt amazing on solving it within 3 minutes....🙂😃
@pierrotinturquoise
@pierrotinturquoise 2 жыл бұрын
What about a video about Weierstrass Function next? :> I couldn't find a single good video on this topic in youtube. Please make one on this. :"(
@henningnagel1977
@henningnagel1977 2 жыл бұрын
Entered the original function into Wolfram Alpha. Well...
@bprpcalculusbasics
@bprpcalculusbasics 2 жыл бұрын
😆
@SaurabhKumar-jo6dp
@SaurabhKumar-jo6dp 2 жыл бұрын
🤭
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 2 жыл бұрын
We can differentiate anything! what about functions like Weierstrass
@twelfthdoc
@twelfthdoc 2 жыл бұрын
So this is where we paramaterize x and y in terms of t and figure out what dy/dx is terms of t?... Maybe another day...
@plutothetutor1660
@plutothetutor1660 2 жыл бұрын
differentiate the infinite tetration of x
@NC28-En
@NC28-En 23 күн бұрын
Yay new series :)
@GreenMeansGOF
@GreenMeansGOF 2 жыл бұрын
Differentiate the gamma function
@AndDiracisHisProphet
@AndDiracisHisProphet 2 жыл бұрын
Dirichlet Function
@yoav613
@yoav613 2 жыл бұрын
Next time i suggest you to find the derivative of (tanx)^(e^x)
@ДенисКосько-н9и
@ДенисКосько-н9и 2 жыл бұрын
and yes, i do like it!
@AnakinSkywalker-zq6lm
@AnakinSkywalker-zq6lm 2 жыл бұрын
It would have taken me forever and idk why… but he did it in under ten min so it must be true that studying solutions makes you good at math…
@ДенисКосько-н9и
@ДенисКосько-н9и 2 жыл бұрын
weierstrass function? ok. and dirichlet function next
@jamessprenkle6355
@jamessprenkle6355 2 жыл бұрын
More !!!
@dinosaric4862
@dinosaric4862 2 жыл бұрын
Now integrate the result
@yk4r599
@yk4r599 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, now find y 🤣🤣
@joakimharbak7485
@joakimharbak7485 2 жыл бұрын
Try x! maybe?
@distinctperception2776
@distinctperception2776 2 жыл бұрын
Differentiate x! :)
@frentz7
@frentz7 2 жыл бұрын
You're a very cool guy. :)
@MohitKumar-eu4pz
@MohitKumar-eu4pz 2 жыл бұрын
I. Solved this very quickly
@hoen3561
@hoen3561 2 жыл бұрын
differentiate x^y^x^y..... = πy
@sharele98
@sharele98 2 жыл бұрын
solve for y
@agabe_8989
@agabe_8989 2 жыл бұрын
now take the second derivative >:)
@adamforte9530
@adamforte9530 2 жыл бұрын
That was great
@mathevengers1131
@mathevengers1131 2 жыл бұрын
Do half derivative of it.
@quadruplay9788
@quadruplay9788 2 жыл бұрын
now solve for y
@sanjayavamachaari623
@sanjayavamachaari623 2 жыл бұрын
differentiate y=icosxsiny/(2sinxtanx+1),w.r.t. x
@shaftous
@shaftous 2 жыл бұрын
bring back the longer hair!!
@IoT_
@IoT_ 2 жыл бұрын
No, check by integration. 😅
@SaurabhKumar-jo6dp
@SaurabhKumar-jo6dp 2 жыл бұрын
🤞 yeah
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753
@novidsonmychanneljustcomme5753 2 жыл бұрын
...and now solve the differential equation you just created. 🤓😁
@Thealiszt
@Thealiszt 2 жыл бұрын
Now integrate it to get rid of the dy/dx 🤡
@Theo-ki3lu
@Theo-ki3lu 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for saying “he or she” instead of the “they” bullshit
@GaryFerrao
@GaryFerrao 2 жыл бұрын
you look different. what could it be hmm lol
@nirmankhan2134
@nirmankhan2134 2 жыл бұрын
🤑🤑🤑
I differentiated the quadratic formula
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