What is the Point of a $3700 Laser? MAWL C1+

The MAWL, somehow both the ultimate "if you know, you know" laser, and a symbol of those with too much money chasing internet clout by simply spending without understanding.
So I try to answer today, what is the point of the MAWL C1+ if its performance is matched by units 1/3rd the price?
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[@wellingtonbruh3756]

Oh boy, a new laser box vid. Time to pull out my anti depressants because this market makes me sad.

[@TheBiggE.]

Yeah I’m doing like he said and having a drink

[@Ryan-cv9me]

Had to pause to grab a drink.

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Libërty and thê men who died on that day

[@Spessforce]

It will be interesting to see what happens to these prices when the Iris releases at $800 ish.

[@BrassFacts]

just call yourself SpessIris already ... Irisforce?

[@alexlevinson8629]

Sadly, the iris won’t hold a candle yet. Illum performance was just bad

[@molenat9973]

@@alexlevinson8629there was an updated video where it is better. That being said, I’m cautiously optimistic

[@meatsmudge5349]

@@alexlevinson8629 That was addressed in a video last week. I'm gonna hold out until production units hit before basing my decisions off five seconds worth of video.

[@IDFWU650]

We’re all rooting for the Iris to be decent. 😂

[@Matt-xc6sp]

The best piece of kit I picked up because of Brass Facts is the phrase “Full Chooch”

[@zim3900]

Makes me think he may be an AvE watcher, which is pretty skookum.

[@bghiggy]

For the ig flex /end video

[@forkthepork]

Flexin on da poorz

[@jonintheredZ06]

See but you know what's funny about that? This laser is more than my SCAR 17S cost me...

[@Enjoyer.762]

Alwayz

[@elijahanderson6736]

I got mine brand new when Ariska ran the deal before 2023 price hike. With the light package subtracted the MAWL c1+ brand new was 2820. I think BE meyers backing the units, American made, and its not a steiner + ergo and simplicity won me over. Its just simple, clean, and is awesome. But yeah paying 3600 would be insane

[@TannerBlattner]

Mine was $2900 when I bought it. Isn’t it amazing what inflation can do. Especially for a device that drains its battery when it isn’t even turned on.

[@blakes2k]

I picked up a nearly brand new triple click for 2400

[@Garand.visuals]

One thing that I learnt from a 24th STS guy is if imma use a LPVO or elcan to just mount the lazer on the right rail

[@user-fn1cq4df3g]

Love you and the boys Brass Facts hoping the best for 2024 :D

[@nurse-dude]

Cus they can spend the bean and they want to make sure you know they can

[@L0wSkiller]

When I had a floofy Husky, I would use an excited baby voice asking if my baby wanted "Skritchies", id give him skritchies with my hands while getting 1 swipe of the brush in with it. Then next time he did a figure 8 around me, hed get 2 brushies, etc. once i got a few rounds in, id be able to brush going up the back of the leg, and it would grab so many TUFTSSSSSS ❤ 🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶🐶

[@custosvilicus]

One of us!

[@davidbishop2659]

If price and availability is thrown out the window do you prefer the MAWL or Wilcox Raid XE

[@linux-usr]

I'm glad that I bought both of my MAWL-C1s before the price increase, they originally were selling them for $2.7k and that was considered "outrageously overpriced" at that time too and now at $3.5-3.7k I can't honestly say it is worth it when that is getting into the price range of FP MAWL-DA, Raid-Xe and NGAL when you can find it being sold in the private/gray/black market. Overall I like my MAWLs, but I do lament the weight of the unit though but the trade-offs of the ergo is fine with me.

[@basedWisco715]

Where would one theoretically be able to find a FP MAWL for sale?

[@Warhorse556]

​@@basedWisco715 TacSwap

[@DAP-1776]

It was $2500 awhile ago, and I thought that was outrageous. Guess I got a “deal”.

[@jfalken86]

I asked a guy in the industry and he told me that the laser diode alone went up $600 during covid. The price hasn't come down though so it most likely won't.

[@han6211]

Hmmm, I peeped a Somo NGAL there. Can't wait for the man who sparked the Somo PEQ-15 craze to get to its successor. When abouts do you think the review will drop?

[@AManAndHisTank-tt3ok]

I look forward to Holosun or someone else (phantom) making a unit that's basically the same layout/shape/style but for around 1/3 the price, and accept that it will probably perform worse.

[@darrel15]

So should I get this or a full power somogear?

[@moondemoncompany6791]

Yea I had a mawl and sold it for a Wilcox xe, the mawl was a little heavier than I wanted

[@herrent]

Do a few all night intense exercises with a bunch of guys with a big variety of lasers. If you have the MAWL you will be pleased. It right up there with some of the gov issued lasers.

[@Thb1990]

I’ve owned both the mawl-x1 and raid-xe, ended up selling the mawl because even tho the great controls the weight and how it tilt the gun to the right. And honestly if the holosun vcsel laser is as good as I’m hoping it’ll make the mawl and raid xe extremely overpriced which I’m all for

[@RONIN_SATS]

But it's mid day on a Friday and I'm at work

[@RP-ks6ly]

@RONIN_SATS he said what he said, get to drinkin'

[@ethanbarnes3973]

Holosun LS 321 w/ a kiji. Same thing. Cheaper.

[@Version135]

My only complaint is that the green came out right after i bought two.

[@BrassFacts]

I think the green one is a limited edition one

[@seanmccurdy94]

I want a purple mawl.

[@blackchuckstable]

Get a good thermal and locate them before they see you

[@JohnSmith-oo7ig]

For the bussy.

[@FDCNC]

The MAWL DA will be 10 years old in 2026 and the MAWL C1+ will be 10 years old in 2027.

[@weeznaz8195]

What happens if you use 100 percent of your laser’s power but are indoors? Is there a problem with the laser being this bright, or are you worried about battery drain?

[@miasanmia2519]

Too bright. The laser just looks like a big blooming circle. A fp illuminator could damage your tubes if it’s reflecting off surfaces. I even use my class 1 lasers on low inside my house messing around.

[@weeznaz8195]

Gotcha. When you wear night vision goggles do you have any issues such as being motion sick or how one feels when they wear VR goggles for too long? @@miasanmia2519

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

Yeah it sounds like this is what the Civil LAM market should be heading since they can't have a power race why not have a egonomic race instead?

[@nabby119]

Holosun Iris about to rock the shit outta the big boys

[@Keaton08661]

Super shrimple*

[@DannyD_88]

Create influencer hype around pasive aiming concepts so Myers reduces prices 😅

[@Thor_561]

The real question is, is a$3700 MAWL worth it over literally buying the equivalent value in Somogear PEQs and running each of them until they break? Bear in mind, that is almost 15 Somo PEQ-15s, lmao

[@BrassFacts]

It depends on how much you think it matters if gear fails. If it's a larp toy, np. If you want to peg your life on it. ehhhh

[@compulsivegunbuyer]

They gave you a MAWL?! I need better friends.

[@Crazy_boots]

Love me MAWL, Love me button's, Love me brightness. Ahte me price, Ahte me non ambi, Ahte me parasitic drain when off

[@sssss8700]

Deranged comment. Something something Just As Good

[@RodGriff]

I prefer zippers over schnapps

[@ellerybice3787]

🍌☕️🫡

[@wokekkk]

Lol as a lefty i find it super goofy

[@QuaaludeMidnight]

to piss off poor people

[@F1SH_L3G]

You can always rely on NV gear to kick you in the balls and remind you of how poor you actually are 🤦‍♂️

[@Enjoyer.762]

It's for the wealthy with FU money, incels LARPers who go into debt over gear, and for the real military-grade kit it's for the government jackboot thugs paid by your tax dollars.

[@candyinthefire]

It feels like there are different boundaries for preparedness. Red dots on pistols used to be for competition shooters, but are becoming ever more present. Next step is getting suppressors and integrating those. Night vision is a huge price boundary for most folks, but as with the boundaries before it, gives you a lot better capabilities when employed

[@nomad155]

Night vision don't get to that level boundary of preparedness I think. For 1 it's too expensive, and two the time to utilize it compared to a handgun or optic on a rifle is laughable. You gotta get nods on, and you gun up and be ready for when they attacker bust in your door. Unless you're doing community watch there's little to no value to the civilian market. That's not to say people should not get it. There are much better things to get them nods at that price point anyway, like a down payment on a home, supplies, training, investments etc.

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Libërty and thê men who died on that day

[@murderlesson101]

Got two jobs to afford the first few boundaries. Im not getting 3 more jobs just to afford the nvg boundary

[@LtLemontwist]

Performance and usability make it the best in my opinion. Once you learn to hate the torture devices that are standard layout devices, you will greatly appreciate the MAWL layout. Too bad other brands can’t seem to innovate on controls.

[@budget-88]

Nêver forget the USS Libërty and thê men who died on that day

[@Rebellion1776]

I went with the MAWL as well. Got mine just before the price hike. So it was like $2800 if I remember correctly. I also 100% agree with the two button combo that the MAWL has going for it. People really don't understand how nice that feature is, until you let them do it, and then take it away from them and give them back a system that doesn't have that option.

[@Version135]

I also got in at that price. With inflation not sure if we saved anything though.

[@DillianDoe1084]

what are these ponchos yall keep wearing, i wanna be cool too

[@alexisdetocqueville9964]

Holding out for the Z-Bolt "MAWL at home". Very impressed with their IR head. Selling for $1500. Also a vcsel with similar ergonomics.

[@BrassFacts]

im very excited.

[@Black_Heart_Defense]

Bro I’m driving a forklift, I can’t drink rn lmfaoo And grey market is king let’s be honest, full power all the way

[@xdristx]

Based

[@legendsneverdie25]

I’m gonna wait until it’s $4k

[@BrassFacts]

no they go up in 1k increments. so wait till it's 4700

[@legendsneverdie25]

@@BrassFacts can’t wait to be poor again

[@ramjet118]

No goggles, no mawl. But I do need to spend some serious coin on my car! 😅

[@Enjoyer.762]

Well sheeeit, this guntube channel ain't fo you fam lol

[@PaulyP_13]

I have a MAWL and a Wilcox XC. Both are incredible. I like the button layout and quick adjustments the MAWL affords. It is really expensive but I got mine before they crested 3k+. And I’m also a physician with no other expensive hobbies so there’s that. Would I get multiple for other platforms, no, that’s why the LS321G exists

[@davidb9323]

How is the Holosun? Have never heard of it before this comment 😅

[@PaulyP_13]

@@davidb9323 the MAWL is VCSEL(sp?) tech so it puts out a ton more IR illumination, but for a cheap laser the Holosun is great. I currently have one on a B&T APC9, which no one would shoot past 100 at night anyway. Can’t wait to see how the new holosun units that were released at Shot Show do. They are VCSEL

[@aidancabrales7794]

It’s SCAR rated. I have a SCAR. Therefore I kinda need it.

[@Enjoyer.762]

You do just to flex on the poors lol

[@AndersonOozie13]

Are you gonna do a review on the Gigliotti Rifleworks TP9 Short Stroke Trigger kit?! would love to know if you got sent one from them

[@BrassFacts]

I did not, I don't even know what that is.

[@AndersonOozie13]

It's a drop-in ENTIRE FCG. It keeps deleting my comment as a link but if you just look up TP9 Short Stroke Trigger Kit from Gigliotti, it will come up. Supposed to be a superb trigger, $399 pre-order currently. You commented on a post from Nick Chen who posted a video of him using the trigger from them so I thought you got a heads up but I guess not.@@BrassFacts

[@type_s_tyler7547]

I feel validated in my life choices for getting one of these!

[@Enjoyer.762]

Credova for life, yo

[@scottmartin1811]

I greatly appreciate all the info on LAM’s. I’m hoping the new Holosun IRIS is decent! Been debating what LAM to get first for years. I just got a PVS-14! I’m thinking LS321 to start with.

[@BrassFacts]

wait like 4 more days for people to get info on the release time frame on the new holosun LAM. As well as the ACAL from blazer.

[@scottmartin1811]

Good advice! Can’t believe the price point of the IRIS. Hopefully it delivers and I can actually get one 😅

[@deangullberry5148]

​@scottmartin1811 at the announced price I'd skip the LS321. Since it's the same price my guess is it'll be discontinued.

[@jacksonmctavish8240]

@@BrassFactsACAL from Z-Bolt*. The blazer is their light head.

[@IDFWU650]

If you’re in the market for one, that means you already have 10-13K in nods. What’s another 3600?? 😂

[@motorboat3478]

yooooooooihaveamawlthisbetteraffirmmypurchaseoooooooooo

[@BrassFacts]

yooookindasortaigotchuoooooo

[@buff34x]

Trying to get into night vision now days makes me regret not trying to steal a peq16 back in the day. It also makes me want to start pushing bills to deregulate weapon mounted lasers.

[@bobbertbobberson6725]

I just can't justify spending all that money on a cucked illuminator (I've used a dbal i2's laser overseas... laser power really doesn't matter IMO (my unit was too poor for peq-15's)). It's not like companies are selling civ-legal versions for any less, from what I can tell. If I'm going to get a cucked illuminator, I'm sure as hell not going to pay cuck prices for it

[@BrassFacts]

it's not a cucked illuminator. that's the whole vcel gimmick This is 50-60mw, a full power peq is 50mw (give or take).

[@bobbertbobberson6725]

@@BrassFacts well shit ok then

[@andrewvachon1943]

I’m a dir-v guy, still not cheap by any means. The form factor is amazing and the performance is addicting.

[@alexmilbaugh1645]

Same I like it more than my d2 but time will tell how it will hold up

[@Ivan_I99999]

Is your DIR-V’a laser suspiciously powerful (~5mW)?

[@alexmilbaugh1645]

@@Ivan_I99999 so I have the dir -v and the dir and it seems that the dir-v is brighter than the dir but have no real way of testing other than it is bright as shit at night and daytime compared to the regular dual beam

[@dillonmills333]

As long as you don’t mind sending it back every other week.

[@andrewvachon1943]

@@dillonmills333 Haven’t had to yet, no problem holding zero and my lasers are coailligned. USNV also has great customer service so if I do need to send it back it shouldn’t be a problem. Can’t say the same for steiner.

[@Snapper314]

I refuse to pay the extortion level pricing of a MAWL. But the Holosun IRIS or Z-Bolt ACAL look far more appealing and financially do-able.

[@BrassFacts]

they look really good yeah. I look forward to them

[@tonyv6815]

"What is the purpose of a $3700 dollar laser?" Thats simple, to be bought by entity's that extort their budgets from unwitting taxpayers

[@shiftysmgi5333]

Oh come on BF. Learn your gear. The MAWL is the most ambi LAM on the market. Just take it apart in its given 3 sections and flip them around. Bam. Left or right handed.

[@highdesertdrew1844]

I remember talking to a guy at a LGS who was buying night vision in 2020, to just buy the mawl, as the shop was offering a package deal for a +$1800, I said "just do it" it's absolutely bonkers that these things are going for nearly $4k. I recently came into possession of a few different laser aiming modules for test, I didn't have a ton of experience with them prior to this acquisition, I really had no idea how bonkers MIL/LE strength lasers were compared to their civilian counterparts.

[@skydivingcomrade1648]

I'm more likely to buy the USMC than an overpriced fetish.

[@connorw1494]

I am a fan of yours but I have a couple criticisms. It is very hard to follow your narration style since it is so dense and bordering on rambling. In addition the music you choose as a background track is depressing.

[@death31313]

I'm probably on the same page as you, the MAWL may be the best LAM on the market but it's not enough of a step up to justify the price tag unless money is no object. I'm trying out the somogear NGAL, so far I'm pretty impressed, it seems to solve many of the issues their PEQ had and at the price tag you can buy 9 of them for the price of one MAWL

[@silentfox8]

the point of a 3k laser is so that the manufacturer can make a fuck load of money because govt contracts will pay the stupid price and so will desperate civs

[@thegolflife7565]

Alert: new BE Meyers unit coming with full power illuminator

[@ikemouser2580]

Too fucking heavy, always was. I am trying to sell mine to take the edge off buying a 4oz ngal. Also the MAWL is software limites, no difference in hardware between da and regular. It is ambo, you csn dissassemble it and switch sides. I've settled on eotech, mag and running the laser back. having a lightweight front end is huge.

[@Warhorse556]

This was the main reason I sold my MAWL. It's absurdly heavy in comparison to other options, and you absolutely feel that weight on the end of a rifle, especially with a suppressor. Also, although the switching was well thought out, it didn't work well for me. I have large-ish hands, and when running the MAWL on a Geissele Mk16, I found the rail was too small in diameter for my fingers to comfortably fall on the fire buttons on the MAWL. I basically had to use the joint area of my thumb to activate the buttons, which felt cramped. I'm hopeful the EoTech OGL will be the best middle ground option once it eventually comes to market.

[@mntrpr]

If you’re running Gucci NODS you gotta run Gucci lasers

[@The_kookclub]

Yay I have the potted airsof version so I’m even more cringe!

[@BobBob-il2ku]

Best part of the mawl is it has an AA battery adapter.

[@saintsinningsword]

Fun thing I can see for maybe youtube reviewers or guntubers is they can list purchases as a business expense. Cops can list purchases as a business expense. I never got to as security. Otherwise the price is ridiculous, in the event of SHTF its cheaper taking it off a sleeping soldier in minecraft.

[@johnsheppard7175]

NV is still out of my price range. So, here is my comment for the algorithm.

[@michaelturk7237]

Same boat. Commenting to further boost the algo. It hurts. By the time I'm able to afford basic bitch NV equipment, I'll be too geriatric to use my rifle effectively. Punching air. Fighting demons. Screaming, crying, pissing, shitting, etc.

[@Token_Black_Guy]

3700$? Maybe its to flex on the poors

[@arc2426]

Only commenting to sacrifice to the algorithm gods. Great vid as always.

[@PETRAS_]

Lets see the new Holosun IRIS and Zbolt vcsel lasers. It should be a point of inflexion in the laser market

[@spade2you]

I think the MAWL is obviously the best by a longshot. Similar to dual tube NODs, the price makes it difficult to have backups. I'm fine with Steiners on a few weapon systems.

[@elcidcampeador9629]

muh price gouge

[@VoFALT]

There is no point they're all overpriced.

[@deangullberry5148]

I'm just gonna wait for the IRIS to come out. I can equip all 5 of my rifles for the price of a MAWL. MAWL does win the sexy points though... I'm so confused. Help me BF. Bring some lotion...

[@BrassFacts]

we only do it raw here.

[@deangullberry5148]

@@BrassFacts all right, but don't say I didn't give you a chance....

[@xxxlonewolf49]

Point? To try & take all of our $?

[@PoopDynamyx]

The point of a $3700 laser is that they know morons will buy it

[@Enjoyer.762]

Incel larpers and credova are quite the combo.

[@davidb9323]

+$700 in a year Did you forget to mention the Triple Tap feature ?

[@BrassFacts]

its really mediocre on the C1+ to the point where I don't really care for it outside of when in the forward most position. Like I said I didn't really want to review this thing, more so tackle the question of "is this worth it"

[@RAMZAVFX]

I dont have a drink but i have a pocket joint for parties, does that count? (+watchin in class lol)

[@zeromaz6618]

It is ambi. you remove the tail/head and turn the body around, then reinstall

[@BrassFacts]

That's not what ambi means. It's L or R configurable.

[@mathildadeer]

Hop holding Nova's ears was so precious!

[@nef36]

TL;DR: "Yeah, most people don't need a 3K+ laser... but this thing is actually worth 3K and I got mine for free to keep."

[@BrassFacts]

being worth 3k is different from needing one. I would never spend 3k on one, but I understand now why those that don't blink at 3k do.

[@nef36]

@@BrassFacts Essentially what I said, yeah lol. Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them. If the asking price is 3k, and users who can afford that decide to buy it, then it's worth 3k, even if that value is due to a lack of competition from an industry that's scared to innovate. That being said, you didn't make this thing sound cheaply made at all though, so I doubt the price is that crazy.

[@gansior4744]

I would kill for MAWL with how good it looks

[@Vinn_K]

I got mine for 2500 before the price increase, a little on the expensive side, but man the performance is nice

[@jzenlasaar7558]

Yup, what I paid for mine. There is also a way to make it configured for lefties…the downside is you can’t do it quickly and have to swap the bulb and cap

[@MrDhdiaz]

Always enjoy the conversation.

[@uh60ce1]

Great video as always. I will say I hope that's just a bright spot in the NODS. If it's an emission point it hurts my soul 😢

[@greywhite]

perst is better, but i got mine before we even thought about a war with russia so i bet export now is a bitch

[@Enjoyer.762]

"Let me flex about my full power emitter lol".

[@AmazonWebService98]

Can't wait for your review of the new holosun lam

[@philrab]

Keep hoping Holosun or ZBolt reset the market by undercutting price without compromising performance. But not getting my hopes up.

[@DunkThemMuffins]

I really just want a durable LAM with an adjustable illuminator, decent power laser that's usable at 300 yards max, and comes in at the price of a PSA complete rifle lol. I'm pretty sure my Jakl did something to my Somogear, because the vis and IR lasers are now waaaay more than 12 inches off.

[@wombatt360]

BUT, should I sell my Perst 3 green lazer for one???

[@Veritas1992]

After voluntarily dropping back down to lower middle class after buying an RH25 & PVS14 I don’t know how the hell I’m gonna afford several LAMs for my rifles.

[@HalfHealth]

Back when the MAWL was like.. $2700-2800 I think it made slightly more sense, but at the price of a decent new PVS-14 its just not really worth it anymore unless money is no object.