BRAW on the Fujifilm Xh2s - is it worth it? BMPCC6K Comparison!

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This is the video we all have been waiting for. Can the Fujifilm Xh2s with the black magic design video assist 12g go toe to toe with the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K Pro? What are the benefits? What are the drawbacks? Are the workflows the same? How is the image? All of that is to come in this video.
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0:00 - Intro
0:26 - Download test footage!
0:35 - BRAW comparison test footage
1:36 - How to setup BRAW for the XH2s
1:53 - Resolution settings compared to the BMPCC6K Pro
2:50 - ISO settings compared to the BMPCC6K Pro
4:25 - DUAL ISO with the video assist 12g? NOPE
4:40 - Real-world footage 1 - spec commercial
5:30 - Dynamic range test - Xh2s vs. BMPCC6K Pro
6:57 - Exposure tools on the video assist 12g
7:09 - BRAW vs FLOG-2
8:43 - Recording media
9:41 - Real-world footage 2 - interview setting
10:35 - I rather use the BMPCC6K Pro over the Xh2s, here's why
13:27 - What are the benefits of using the Xh2s and the video assist 12G?
15:23 - What’s the user experience like?
19:01 - the Ugly side of BRAW from the Xh2s
21:38 - Is it worth using BRAW with the XH2s?
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[@CineDailies]

The blind test answers. A is the XH2S w/ the speed booster B is the 6K Pro

[@therealjimmy5411]

A unique video no one else has done, my main take away that I hadn't considered is this is a path to BRAW with auto-focus, if the monitor to camera issues are worked out.

[@Adam.Robert]

Watched this entire cut. Fantastic comparison that I know is helpful for folks that are considering an XH2s specifically for its B Raw capabilities. The fact that you are using you XH2S as your daily camera and your 6K Pro as your work camera I think says a huge amount about both systems.

[@CineDailies]

Thanks Adam! And thanks for watching!

[@tumaymusic1720]

FINALLY A XH2S RAW VİDEO ON KZbin !

[@CineDailies]

WHOOP WHOOP

[@gabrielmachadobsb]

Thanks for uploading the files! I've messed around with them on Resolve, and found out I really liked grading those flog2 files, way more than BRAW. They're a little on the yellow side, but a light touch of color warper was enough to get them looking great, and it was easier getting them how I wanted then the BRAW from either camera. My baseline is using color space transform, as if the footage was LogC, and then do the warping, and it's been working great I'm starting to consider the X-H2S as my next camera!

[@EvanSchneider]

So thorough, thank you for taking the time to make this! Answered all my questions and more. Hope it improves in the future.

[@CineDailies]

The is bro! I hope I did this justice haha. I need to do a part too! Learned some new information to test!

[@lukegoode7899]

That short video in the studio was amazing! I also have been wondering about external BRAW on the xh2s, thanks for the detailed video!

[@CineDailies]

I literally made of the concept on the spot. I had a completely different idea ha

[@igorrotsen3651]

Best content for fuji xh2s about video capabilities, thank you! amazing jobs, keep it up, we love it!

[@CineDailies]

Thank you igor!

[@dawsonthecreative]

helluva video man! a few things i’d love to be in the loop about in the future is-if they fix the lagging of the camera to monitor issue, if bras suddenly allows you to change ISO, and also what lenses you’ve been loving! especially because i plan to buy the 6k pro and xh2s, any lenses that you enjoy on both is a double whammy for me. mad love dude i was so thrilled in this video.

[@lucasmelo7106]

Saying that this video was awesome and highly informative it's a understatement. 👏👏

[@CineDailies]

🙇🏽‍♂️ thank you. This took a lot of time. There are areas I could have explained better too

[@samuelloveing6452]

Great info! Can’t wait to see what else you got coming!

[@omenka]

Amazing comparison, i love the open gate function of the xh2s and this is the biggest selling point for me.

[@CineDailies]

totally!

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

Thank you so much for all the time, efforts and patience. Glad to see real feedback. In any case I'm not up to the skill and resource level needed to shoot and store raw video yet. So I'll stick to Flog1 for now and save up for bigger capacity CF express cards.

[@CineDailies]

I appreciate you saying that. All the best for your future projects!

[@NoahBuehler]

There are cf express type b to m.2 ssd adapters. Sintech makes one, I have been using it with a 1Tb corsair SSD for almost a year now, never had any issue with it...

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

Thank you so much! ​@@CineDailies

[@JoaquimGonsalves]

​@@NoahBuehlerthank you so much for the info! I'll check this option.

[@professionalpotato4764]

Thank you soooo much for such an indepth comparison. Gonna wait a while for Fujifilm to iron out the firmware before purchasing the X-H2S. It's a pity there doesn't seem to be dual native ISO in BRAW though. Maybe if BM releases a new Video Assist with a caddy for nvme SSDs that would be awesome. I think the ISO issue is the same with other products (Panasonic/sigma fp)? If I'm not wrong, only BM cameras can change the ISO in post. Something about how the ISO scaling is different across brands or something so BM implemented it as exposure change instead of ISO change. And BM shifts the dynamic range stops depending on ISO right? Like how it moves more stops to highlights or shadows based on ISO. So maybe other brands don't do that at all, resulting in the inability to use ISO in post. I feel like apart from the things you mentioned, there's a couple more things to Fuji needs to work on like manual focus customization. Panasonic let's you choose the degree of rotation but Fujifilm doesn't. The Tamron 17-70 is hard to use for manual focus cos I think it's like 5 million degrees of rotations from min to infinity.

[@colinthomas2525]

Thanks for taking the time to do this. Pro for the win for me.

[@CineDailies]

Thank you for taking the time to watch!

[@capturedbymili]

Thank you bro for this amazing cover. Love your work ❤

[@CineDailies]

Thank you for watching!

[@toddpeterson5904]

Thank you very much for this video and uploading the files. I recently changed from my trusty BMPCC 4K to the Fuji X-H2s. I'm loving the Fuji. In many cases, I find 422HQ internally to be very good. I'm still undecided about BRAW. It seems less optimized for Fuji than for BMD's own cameras, so I feel it has less detail and a few other issues.

[@AlekseyMakeev]

That's a great comparison. It's nice to see tests like this from real footage. 💣

[@CineDailies]

Thanks for watching!

[@fabipuello]

Man I've been waiting for this video. Very good job. You might need to do a follow-up. 👏👏👏

[@CineDailies]

Yeah I most likely will!

[@edwardcrockett]

Loved this video bro! it was super informative and very helpful! Also, nice Right Angle HDMI 👀

[@CineDailies]

You came in clutch with that link brodie!

[@edwardcrockett]

@@CineDailies I gotchu!!

[@jordanwright5795]

After viewing a number of videos on the Fuji i have to say there is just something about the look that the XH2S produces that feels very filmic to me. My main daily drivers are RED ( Raptor and Komodo ) and the reason I gravitated towards RED is that it has a very filmic look without needing to put much in effort. I’m not sure if it’s the X2Hs ability’s to produce a highly detailed image without it looking too digital / video-y or if it’s the colors or the motion cadence but I haven’t seen a camera outside of RED / ARRI produce an image that strikes me the same way the Fuji does other than maybe the Kinifinity cameras I once owned and yes this also includes the BM, Ursa’s, P4K and 6K that I have owned at one point or another. I’m pretty excited to pick up the Fuji soon.

How was the Kinefinity? it's hard to find reviews on it

[@kevosi]

thanks for doing the test and sharing the footage for download! that exclamation mark warning on the BMVA means it's dropping frames so my guess is the stuttering footage is because of the card not being able to write fast enough, I've had that issue in the past when shooting 60+fps but once I got a faster card it stopped - also re the issue with plugging in an ssd on the bottom of the monitor and mounting you mention, I bought a cage for the monitor and so you can mount an ssd holder (I have one for the samsung t5) and then just flip the monitor upside down (set the screen rotation in the menu to automatic) and then you can plug in on "top" of the monitor and secure the ssd to it as well so you can still freely rotate the monitor - I usually set my BMVA to stop recording when it detects dropped frames so there's no chance of being surprised by stuttering footage later on. getting my xhs2 next week and looking forward to doing some tests myself!

[@vaidehiarts]

Thanks! I'm a cheapo when it comes to recording video, I just do 10 bit Long GOP H264 internally on my Lumix S1. Good enough for long form content, but I am waiting for BM Design to release the next gen of the Video Asssist 12G, ideally with CFExpress Type B card support and more stability. I've had issues with BM Pocket OG and 2.5K cinema cameras, where it turned half the day's footage into a pixel mush. Because of this I never use BM cameras on biggee projects, despite their image being one of the nicest under 10000 USD

[@charles_wren_films]

Hot take - After 15+ years of chasing flatter and flatter profiles that allow us to do more and more in post, one of the absolute joys of Fujifilm imho is dialling in a custom film simulation and committing to the look in camera, rather than "fixing it in post" later.

[@8020Alive]

You do know that those Fuji looks are available in post (by Fuji themselves) It's not a "fix it in post" solution.

[@charles_wren_films]

@@8020Alive I do indeed. But in a world of log profiles and colour grading (and yes, fix it in post), I personally think it's refreshing to shoot with a baked in look, rather than to decide later. And I think Fujifilm is the one camera manufacturer that provides a range of filmic profiles out of the box that you can bake in without sacrificing anything.

[@DirectorAndyPalmer]

Really great and informative video!! Man! Both images look great! Is it me or does the BRAW add a little softness to the XH2s. In a good way. The footage I have seen thus far is beautiful, but just a tad sharp

[@robertolanga]

Dude this was awesome. I was really wondering how these 2 interact and work together.

[@Hellofriendzzz]

Hey man , thanks for all the dope and informative videos! , I was wondering if the BRAW on the fujifilm works well now? was there a formware update that fixed the issues you had when recording BRAW externally on the fujifilm? the reason why i ask is because I am about to spend money on buying my first professional camera and I am leaning towards either one of them bmpcc 6k or xh2s , thanks in advance

[@jacobkernell6388]

Great stuff man! Saved me a lot of time and research (and money lol) with this. I do some wedding work and my work is starting to pick up a lot and I've been with Fuji since the start but I've always chased after the blackmagic image but could never quite replicate it on Fujifilm. Don't get me wrong I love Fuji colors, but when it comes to video work BMPCC's are just better, the sharpening, highlight rolloff and all that is just so beautiful on blackmagic and just not quite the same on any mirrorless brand. My question is without backup recording is blackmagic worth it for weddings? I really want that image for my couples, but I havent found a legit backup solution for my couples that I would use if I used a bmpcc camera as my main on wedding day. Some insight would be super appreciated. Thanks!

[@ethan7793]

I believe A is Fuji, B is Blackmagic. A leans a bit magenta, B leans a little warm and green. Thanks for this comparison! Love the image on the BMPCC6K, but can’t live with the non-locking EF mount and the rolling shutter performance. So, I’ve been hopeful the Fuji would make a good alternative. Looks like it fares really well in terms of image quality! Also, interesting side note - the Fuji has better dynamic range when using internal F-Log 2 recording modes - as that is the only way to utilize the 14-bit sensor readout. Not sure quite how much of an impact that makes though. Might be an interesting comparison to do at some point - internal ProRes vs external BRAW dynamic range. Really appreciate the content!

[@OTRmotors]

Would also like to see that comparisson

[@CineDailies]

NOTED!

[@hjkhhjkh3635]

Hi Ethan, Did you find out if it was the bmpcc 6k on the B footage? I don’t think he gives the answer in the video?

[@CineDailies]

@@hjkhhjkh3635 haha it's a blind test. The point is to understand the workflow. But I'll post the answer

[@DubYaJsWorld]

Love the review! Still have my xt3, made the jump back to canon and got the R5 because they gave me what I wanted. Waited on the xh2 for a couple years and they didn't release it, but it seems like a good upgrade form the previous years. I think the direction I'm going c70 is what I'm going for next year. I want to get more cinematic and creative so that's the direction I'm going!

[@CineDailies]

Getting more cinematic is more than the camera.

[@DubYaJsWorld]

@@CineDailies definitely but that certain look from the "cinema" cameras, I can tell the difference. The pocket cameras especially in raw have that subtle difference, that's why to me they are amazing.

[@rudisordes1753]

Really useful. Many thanks. BTW, what system do you use to shoot your own talking parts (cam ? glass?). Very nice and clean image.

[@GelnerPhotography]

So I have the nearly exact same setup. I am also about to post some test but what I can tell so far, is that you are sadly right. At the moment the combination of Braw and the X-H2s is a bit disappointing. Monitor lag, stottery image, pink screen due to weird connection losses. Regarding the the comparison of 1000 iso bmpcc to 1000 Xh2s, I am not too sure that makes a lot of sense. Since the real base ISO of the XH2S would be 640 but we (sadly) can not access it. So we stick with an amplified 1000 iso signal in BRAW, which is obviously more noisy. But if you prefer BMPCC 6k at 3200 vs XH2s at 3200 they are very identical in terms of noise performance. Since even setting your BMPCC 6k to 1000 does not actually, really amplify the signal. You are still in the ISO 400 circuit, just altering the contrast or exposure curve. So you were basically comparing 400 ISO Circuit to an actually amplified 1000 signal. I hope what I say is somewhat understandable 😅. Just my 2 cents. Regarding external recording of F-Log2, that's of course possible, but not in RAW but in external ProRes 422HQ. And it seems to have a little better noise performance, maybe due to the magic of the cam. But I also read that recording 6.2K ProRes 422HQ internally would have the overall best performance at the moment. Back to the BRAW and ISO thing. What I think is strange thou is, that when filming ProRes-Raw, you can change the iso in post using Assimilate (not sure if it is actually changing or just adjusting linear gain). Also some KZbinrs Claim, that the Xh2s has dual ISO at 640 and 3200. I am just not sure if it really is dual Gain or just the High-Iso-NR kicking in at 3200. OK enough talking. Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it a lot. Greets.

[@haloboy456]

Cine Dailies! Video! Question: obviously for long format filming the disjunction issues between the video assist and the camera is not ideal. But especially for take based bursty narrative work, would you say the experience is usable for more manual focus pulling intentionally lit based narrative projects? Or do the units cause so many issues that it truly takes valuable time away from the production schedule of a given day? Insights on this is really helpful as it makes the difference between a tolerable setup in which we can still get braw out of this camera or having a contemplate the prores raw workflow

[@georgemichaelofficial]

That lag has me spooked, but always prefer the flexibility of BRAW to ProRes. All prior experience has been with that being recorded internally though, seems to be a different game here.

[@gabrielesaladino9565]

This video is pure gold. As a hybrid photo/video shooter, I'm considering switching from Sony A73-4 to Fuji XH2s (color science will help a lot since I'm also a colorist, open gate and codecs are a big plus, APSC sensor is more than enough if client don't need to make billboards or stuff...so is really good for small to medium production, even solo). Also I do shoot on film 35 and 120 so If they day will come I'll stay with Fuji 50 or 100s and adapt Mamiya and Nikon lenses. Also BMPCC6K will always be the starting point as a video workhorse, but the lacking of autofocus, since it's a cinema camera will create the environment for the Fuji to shine more in a lot of daily situations. Thank you for sharing all of these informations!

[@johnnyweissmuller5838]

Why would sensor size affect billboard print or not?

[@cine-ish]

​@@johnnyweissmuller5838 I guess resolution probably? Billboards just look shit in general to me

[@johnnyweissmuller5838]

@@cine-ish there are 8k apsc sensors and 1080p full frame sensors, resolution is not ties to sensor size

[@cine-ish]

@@johnnyweissmuller5838 probably just cope then

[@samuelboatengyt]

Hey, great video, I have the Lumix S5 and use it often with the Blackmagic Video assist, and yes, you can't change the ISO, but you can kinda change it through the exposure, that it is on the same window, so only by Stops and not by seeing the ISO, but I mean it works pretty well 👍🏾

[@CineDailies]

Good time know!

[@loudmotion5639]

you can for sometime now..update both ur s5 n va. I think it will come to fuji later on ;)

[@JoeClones]

How do u use the video assist

[@samuelboatengyt]

@@JoeClones activate from the S5 menu Raw recording, you connect the blackmagic video assist and there you go

[@samuelboatengyt]

@@loudmotion5639 I have the latest firmware updates, but the ISO is still not active

[@A.Edilbi]

because you provided a link to download the test footage , I will sub and like , to motivate you keep doing that

[@CineDailies]

🙌🏽🙇🏽‍♂️

[@mpell66]

I often use BRAW external recording (on Lumix) and found this comparison video very informative and really helpful. Thanks!

[@CarlosPerezFilms]

The gfx 100s also has that crazy lag on that monitor. I defaulted on filming with it internally just because of the delay. The image was also crazy different so Im happy that is fixed here. Hopefully this gets fixed soon.

[@CineDailies]

Yeah I agree it needs to be fixed

[@IsThatYouSimon]

Hey Carlos i work with gfx100s too in video where can i see yours ?

[@Pena420station]

The delay ia using an external monitor?

[@CarlosPerezFilms]

@@Pena420station mostly when using the raw output. It still has a bit of a delay when normal but nothing bothersome like the raw. Mind you, on the GFX100s.

[@shueibdahir]

If you set noise reduction to -4 on the fuji and do the noise reduction in davinci resolve you can get up to 13.8 stops of dynamic range with the SNR of 2 which exceeds the blackmagic by full 2 stops.

[@EvanFotis]

Congrats for the thorough honest review! I cant recall, can one record Fuji XH2S 6K 3:2 open gate from full sensor size in Braw to the video assist 12G?

[@CineDailies]

yes it can. 6.2k open gate in braw

[@jayclas4023]

The XH2s is a beast! As is the new XS20 and I’m a Pocket 3k owner.

[@jaredpoledna3902]

Great video! Bummer that the fuji Braw its capped at 60 fps. As someone who owns both cameras this video is super helpfull. Keep up the great content.

[@CineDailies]

I forgot to mention it records in 4.8k 60fps! but with a crop

[@FujiFred]

Stellar video! Truly appreciate your perspective on this. “Not a colorist disclaimer”

[@CineDailies]

I appreciate that!

[@bwoodsjr]

Amazing review!!

[@CineDailies]

Aw thank you!

[@terrencebibbphoto]

Let me catch my breath. Sir the colors you got out of the X-h2s is amazing. Can you please go back and do a video on how you color graded the video profile with your friend. You do any one on one 🤔

[@nordfresse]

At 7:23 I think that the Fujifilm looks much more natural to me, with the skin being less orange. Also, the Pocket has her face kinda soft, dont know why that is.. And I would also love to see a comparison between internal Flog in Prores HQ and external BRAW on the X-H2s, since that is really the question when considering wether or not to get a video assist.

[@nlassim1762]

Thanks for the video! That was very informative and obviously a lot of work for you. I am surprised that there is no 4k60 option. I’ve read multiple times the xh2s would transfer a raw signal up to 60fps.

[@CineDailies]

thanks for watching! and nope its capped at 30 fps

[@nlassim1762]

@@CineDailies thanks. Quite a bummer…

[@GrandadsReviews]

Another excellent video and you came to similar conclusions as myself when testing Braw on the X-H2S though I never got any stuttering or warning symbols maybe it is your sd cards I was using Kingston 128GB cards and a Samsung T5 ssd. I saw some where that you can’t change the iso in post because the camera doesn’t have dual native ISO’s so there is no range to select so Blackmagic just gave you the exposure slider which covers the whole range but that could just be speculation.

[@CineDailies]

interesting - even in the 6k pro I can a range of ISO from 100 to 1000 or 1250 to 6400. The iso to the external recorder still have an ISO range regardless of it being dual ISO, you know anything. Thanks for watching! and yeah it might be my card, even though its a V90 card

[@GrandadsReviews]

@@CineDailies So it might be correct only cameras with dual native iso allow you to adjust the iso in post whether recorded internally or externally

[@MarkChen-fd2iv]

Great video. Thinking about picking up one of these. Does it still have lagging issues to this day?

[@lkylv]

Do we know if this issues are still exist as of today? Thinking to get either the new Ninja or Video Assist for X-H2s just to be able to record on SSDs. I prefer Braw over Proress Raw any day. But both monitors seem to have some issues with X-H2s

[@paulbeckmann]

Great info! Thanks!

[@KombatFlix]

Open feels like a Spike Joint 🔥🔥 Profile on the young woman was super heat 🔥🔥🔥. Dope video really impressed with the Fuji's colors, BMPCC jus different tho!

[@CineDailies]

Appreciate that

[@JosephBaca813]

Great video! Love the BRAW on my panasonic. What are your thoughts on those dzo 21 and 40mm lenses? Would love to hear your thoughts on them

[@CineDailies]

A review is coming soon!

[@AlexPresa]

Those BM colours are just so vibrant and natural. Fuji XH2S still looks flat. Great review Josh!!

[@CineDailies]

I agree - and granted I just made a few adjustments to WB and contrast. I did grade the XH2s footage for the spec fashion video

[@tsound_]

On one hand, giving a non BM mirror-less B-Raw capabilities is dope. But internal B-Raw still seems the way to go. Now if you could get B-Raw with a A7siii or FX3 on the assist… man that would be a combo right there. Great video Josh!!

[@CineDailies]

It's pretty insane right? I love the idea of options ha

[@kuudoyamashita]

thanks, I’m going to buy second 6K pro

[@juriesenekal]

Thank you very much for this greta video... any chance of uploading the BRAW from the Fujifilm on GoogleDrive again? Basically trying to assess how much dynamic range I gain by going from H265 10 bit 422 to the BRAW 12 bit. Thank you !

[@kylehessling2679]

Watching this video again because it's so interesting! Something I'm inquisitive about is that the xh-2s BRAW looks to have a bit more dynamic range than the 6k in the shadows and mids. On the side-by-side image showing just the log images, you can tell that the mids and shadows are waaaaay brighter on the xh2-s. This suggests that even though the highlights are clipped, there is probably quite a bit more info in the shadows of the fuji braw. This makes sense because iso 1000 on the 6k pushes all of the DR into the highlights. Have you seen this to be true? Could you do a test with them both right below clipping white and see if the fuji does any better?

[@CineDailies]

Yeah ill have to revisit this comparison for sure

[@kylehessling2679]

@@CineDailies thanks man, your channel has quickly become one of my new favorites! Love the presentation of your stuff!

[@CptCurk]

Hey ! Thanks a lot ! I got X-T3 and the VA 7" 12G, and I've got a huge drawback : latency between the monitor and the camera. 4 frames minimum (I have sound entry that I can't use then...) But basically, do you get this latency also, is it usable to work with, or you missed all movement within the frame, as the real life movement is going 4 frames before you can see it ^^' I'm think about taking the X-S20 for Braw (to not invest too much), do you think it would be reliable ? That's not the X-H2S workhorse, but it's still a pretty good camera for the budget ! Thank you for your videos, they are really helpfull !

[@jeremyedwards9304]

I’m happy with the internal recordings of the xh2s, but I do have a ninja v in the rare case I would want to shoot raw and I use fcpx.

[@Cinnovations]

Thanks, we needed this!!

[@CineDailies]

Thanks for watching!

[@dudemasterpro]

thanks for leaving footage to do my own test

[@deccawatt5741]

Great content, thanks. Did you compare the dynamic range between Flog2 and Braw? I know the fuji uses a 14bit sensor readout mode for Flog2, I wonder if maybe it's using the 12bit sensore readout mode for braw, explaining the difference in highlight rolloff with the 6k pro.

[@CineDailies]

I didn't spend to much time with flog2 vs braw from the 6k pro. that will come in my full review later this year

[@LeonGreg]

it actually does, as stated by fuji it self, flog 2 internal por res is from a 14bit readout, and external, 12bit. so internal it has way better dynamic range

[@BrendanEvan]

Selling my XT4’s and going all in on XH2 and H2S to expedite workflow. Simple talking head with minimal color grading means the workflow is really fast now that autofocus is reliable. I’m not touching raw or even ProRes yet 😂

[@jackofblades6736]

Try the bmpcc4k or even the original bmpcc.

[@chirayusharma5881]

Thank you for the footage

[@CineDailies]

You're welcome!

[@francissosing]

I appreciate this video!

[@CineDailies]

Thanks for watching!

[@DennisSchmitz]

Subscribed just for providing unprocessed raw footage for download. Will watch video later :D

[@mcgreevs24]

You rule! Thanks for sharing!

[@CineDailies]

Thanks for watching!

[@MayurMahapatraFilms]

Great video Joshua.. do you still think XH2S can be used for documentary work using flog or flog2? I am a current XT4 user

[@Eyeofkamau]

Absolutely it can!

[@analogbebop]

I'll be picking up an Xh2s soon but I'm still debating on investing in a video assist for BRAW capabilities. Have you tried out different HDMI cables and SSD recording options to combat the BRAW issues?

[@CineDailies]

I have not. But you can always rent one through lensrental

[@michaelcroff7097]

I thought autofocus with Braw was the only reason for the test! Maybe open gate. I think the S5 II X will make more sense with the Assist 12G because of full frame and AF. ! Warning means your card isn’t fast enough and has lost frames. Was hoping to see the Fuji + Assist 12G on gimbal. With follow focus, external power and shotgun mic. Thanks for the test!

[@CineDailies]

Thanks for watching!

[@edwardcrockett]

Bro I can't believe that you're handholding that freakin RIG at 1:14 🤯

[@CineDailies]

I really was lol haha I looked ridiculous

[@edwardcrockett]

@@CineDailies haha props to you for going for it!

[@findingefilm]

I've just been trying to shoot BRAW on the new XH2 on the VA12G. It did NOT go well. Firstly it doest seem to output the colors correctly, no matter what I do. Both in FLOG and emulation, it just looks wrong. And when i do record a file, it cant be openen i davinci or BRAW player. Im switching to XH2s as soon as possible, hopefully I can get it to work like you. Did you output to SSD or fast SD card?

[@alvinfauzie]

how to set timeline colour management for fujifilm braw (blackmagic video assist) file in davinci? thank you

[@CineDailies]

Don't be afraid to share your thoughts!

[@organismx]

Josh, the good thing is , you (and moment team) are not afraid to share your thoughts and what you really thing of a product or a camera system, etc… 👍🏽 never change that!

[@Strange_Logik]

Hey, Im having a bit of a dilemma choosing between the two cameras, can you help? I want to shoot horror short films, not really interested in photography. From the videos I've watched, the black magic seems to have superior low light to the XH2s. Can you confirm? I want to be able to shoot in low light, I love the footage that comes out of the black magic, but I'm worried about not having stabilization. Any thoughts on that? Im also going to be travelling to iceland and want to get some footage there. I feel like the rig for the black magic might be a bit heavy and too much to take around hiking with me. Let me know what you think is the better choice if youd be so kind, I'd reallllllly appreciate it. Also, is it just with the black magic assist that the xh2s doesnt have dual gain iso? Or does it not have that completely?

[@RayAngeloLeal]

Totally not on topic but what is the name of the music you used for the clip comparison portion of the video? Thanks!

[@MsBob314]

If anything, BMPCC looks a bit cleaner on skin. Other than that, they are virtually indistinguishable. I would love to see the Fuji against Red or Alexa. I'm an award-winning indie cinematographer and director with a 2 hour action/SciFi feature coming out this year.

[@lelandofoz]

Does your video assist not display the log image when shooting braw? Cuz no matter how I change the setting(both in the lastest firmware), it always shows a flat but def not log image, make me can't trust the exposure assist tools anymore.

[@blackdotvisuals6863]

Great comparison video, what adapter do you use for the Mamiya 645 lens?

[@CineDailies]

Thanks! One is from simmodlens and the other is kipon

[@BryanKeithPhoto]

Super informative video man! I'll just stick to BRAW in my 6Kpro. I'm curious, about shooting your doc in Isreal and wrapping up in the states; how are you mixing the footage? With 25p and 24p? I'm shooting a doc in South Africa and finishing here in ATL and I'm a little unsure about which to shoot in. Thanks.

[@Apple_Ryan]

hay dude.. South African here.. we use 50hz power so best bet not to get flickering is probably 25 or 50 fps..Keep in mind the power is very unstable and sometimes you need to go 2 24 30 or 60 to not see flickering in lights

[@BryanKeithPhoto]

@@Apple_Ryan hanks, Ryan. I think I'm confused about how to mix it with 24p footage timeline wise.

[@kullumphoto]

Great content…I remember you mentioned on the Fujifilm XH2S yo use .3 or .6 exposure was it under or overexposed?

[@CineDailies]

Like I mentioed in the video, braw and flog2 are treated differently. There is a little less DR in the highlights for the external braw. In flog2 yeah ill hang around .6

[@YanFries]

Didn’t know you could change the shutter button on the xh2(s), looks nice 👌🏽

[@CineDailies]

RED SHUTTER BUTTON: amzn.to/3zQFlFD

[@YanFries]

@@CineDailies thanks! Is it tough to remove?

[@CineDailies]

@@YanFries ive had it for 4 months! hasn't moved. its solid

[@TheTomaszF]

Could you make a autofocus test of metabones speedbooster with EF lens - the best will be comparition with fringer adapter pro ii

[@gunnarbjarkiii]

I noticed when downloading the footage that the Fuji xh2s Braw, has some weird pixles appearing randomly, most of them white, some of them are red even, kinda ruins the footage in my oppinion

[@gunnarbjarkiii]

but.. how do we colorgrade and correct the Braw from fuji xh2s??

[@TheFilmGuyOfficial]

From what I have read you need to shoot at 1250 to maximise dynamic range with the Fuji, I don't know if this effects the raw! Although I have heard it's best to treat my like canon' expose for highlights and then in post raise your levels and Denoise. I'm probably going to grab it for stills and BTS!

[@CineDailies]

You can't when you're connected to the video assist. ISO doesn't act the same in 1250 BRAW as it does to 1250 F-Log2

[@TheFilmGuyOfficial]

@@CineDailies interesting!

[@CineDailies]

@@TheFilmGuyOfficial atleast from my findings. the test footage will be available soon

[@YeetSurfing]

Thank you i just had a play in davinci, its awsome i think exposure is the same as iso.. it is still pulling the highlights down and upbove so no clipping. Works great.. just wish i could afford the xh2s😢

[@ShangleLP]

What about the ir problem with bigger lenses on the bmpcc? You have the internal nd filters but then additionaly need an filter on the front of your lens for IR cut.

[@CineDailies]

It's not always an issue for me. There are several ways to fix it. in post and/or using it cuts like you mentioned.

[@ricardogoncalvesreis3730]

Congratulations on your job, I have a question, does it do 4.8K 60P? do you have any examples?

[@CineDailies]

yes it does but I didn't bother with it. maybe in my follow up video

[@TrapPhoneLoveMelodiesss]

Love the video, but I truly dislike having to guess. It’s so much more beneficial to know up front and then study the differences. Subbed anyway tho

[@CineDailies]

Lol 😆 rough if you couldnt see the answer by now, but thanks for the sub

[@grantstang8331]

Does the lagging effect happen with ProRes recording. And can you use this with open gate recording

[@pepefavoreto]

Hi! Which kind of dummy do you use at Fuji and Anton Bauer?

[@Apple_Ryan]

I have the xh2s with a ninja V...Must I record a couple of prores raw clips and convert them to cinema dng for you?

[@Apple_Ryan]

also not a fan of the prores raw myself i will rahter stick to prores. but just if you are curious...thought it might help

[@tropicalorangetube]

Hey man! I just grabbed a video assist for the xh2s to test this out. One thing I noticed right away is the af-c custom settings only seem to kick in when recording from the camera. So if I'm only recording signal from the camera (not recording), the autofocus isn't working properly (tracking speed, etc.). Is there a setting I am missing or is this just the way it goes with external recorders?

[@tropicalorangetube]

I figured it out! Set the record button setting to video start/stop in the video assist

[@ChristopherKou]

Have you recorded BRAW into the Video Assist from any other source? I am wondering if the fixed ISO is a idiosyncrasy of the X-H2S specifically or if it's a limitation of how Video Assist records the BRAW.

[@ChristopherKou]

Yep. Confirmed here. It's a Blackmagic Video Assist thing, not an X-H2S thing. ISO control is disabled for all third party cameras recording in the the Video Assist. Seems the exposure control is good enough though. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6jdZpmHZsppmJY

[@OurVoicesOurLives]

Do you use the Anton Bauer to power your 6k and the monitor? I’ve seen some people’s comments/reviews which made me scared to use a v-mount for both.

[@CineDailies]

Yeah I use it all the time

[@8lec_R]

The biggest reason for me to get the monitor would be to record to SSDs. Cuz SSDs can be so cheap and fast

[@Rafazaas]

I'm trying to download the files but there are not files in the Drive folder :(

[@LeonGreg]

the difference in dyanmic range comes from the external flog2 that uses 12bit sensor readout, vs the internal pro res wich uses 14bit sensor readout. its a big difference, that equates to 2 stops probably, and if do some minor noise reduction, it problably goes up to 3 stops.

[@CineDailies]

There is no external recording with FLOG2. So I'm not sure what you mean.

[@LeonGreg]

@@CineDailies right! I misspoke that! What I mean is that recording internally uses flog2 with a 14bit internal sensor readout, and externally it uses a 12bit readout, basically flog1. So that’s the dynamic range difference you notified on your tests. And by the way, I love your channe! You do best tests, with proper color grading, and also amazing presentation! Big fan here!

[@andredemony]

​@@LeonGreg "externally it uses 12bit readout, basically flog1" ? What was tested here was the raw output signal (it is a 12bit data stream) not the log output, but how does that relate to sensor readouts? does the sensor work at different bit depth for data dumps and video encoding? the 14 bit readout becomes 10 bit anyway as soon as the file is written, but the raw data remains 12 bit as it is transferred. In theory you can interpret the Raw into a 444 12bit ProRes with any log curve you wish on the video editor side. We need more info on this 14 bit sensor readout...

[@thomaspawlowski531]

@@andredemony Generally higher bit depth sensors seem to perform better. Any given Alexa records in a 14 bit sensor readout regardless if shooting 12 bit or 10 bit prores. The XH2S is the only lower end camera that has a 14 bit readout. It also has more dynamic range than the S35 sensors that do a 12 bit readout. I think if RAW is only using a 12 bit readout of the sensor it would lower the performance which definitely seems to be the case.

[@pkolloch]

Not that it matters but I definitely recorded B-Raw on the X-H2s with firmware version 1.x But for me, it was not worth it. H265 with flog2 4:2:2 10bit with 200 mb/s or 360 mb/s is fantastic. Would love to have the video assist tools, though, but the video assist is quite heavy and makes my rig unbalanced.

[@ThastsiT]

I too had the same thought, Could you share me the file for reference?