Lithe-ing vs HongTen - Bboy Semifinal | Olympic Qualifier Series 2024 | Breaking ‎Shanghai

[@jason-v1s]

BITE-ING

[@kurtcur]

did Lithe-ing just do hong10's move in front of hong10 himself😂

[@dagger_wrist]

no he didn't. people in this comment section have 0 breaking literacy. hong10 has never done a elbow 1.5 catch to halo, or a headstand baby hold, hong10 always has his hand down when he crosses his leg like that. i mean.. lithe-ing was not doing original moves, but he wasn't biting hong10 either. people are so dumb its sad

[@gracadulo6111]

@@dagger_wristhe was responding

[@yeonboy1]

@@dagger_wrist arm wrapped under leg into back rollover and hold pose into airchair(lithe-ing touched head so not exactly airchair) is 100% a combo that belongs to hong10. small things like hand placement might be an argument against biting a freeze, but this was a 3-4 move combo

[@bboy_itami978]

@@gracadulo6111how is he responding if it was the first round? Hong10 didn’t even go out yet 😂

[@byrdinflight]

Too bad hong 10 didn’t hit his moves in the third round. I think it would have been a clear win for him if he did. Lithe-ing spent the majority of his third round biting Hong 10’s moves. It’s one thing to say ONE move is easy by doing it then continuing on, but it’s like there’s no shame left in just hijacking someone’s whole flow. I hope the olympics doesn’t degrade the value of originality…but maybe it has already.

[@serbaserbi6004]

Hong10 looks tired already in the third round. He quick take a drink after finish 😂

[@krazmozamarripa2545]

commentating is KILLING HIP HOP ….was annoying AF

[@capivaraxocesso]

he sent hong10 freeze against WTF himself??? and you still won, seriously?

[@gracadulo6111]

That’s what we call answer. He responded well.

[@Shamrockavellie]

@@gracadulo6111that’s a bite bro

[@buddyboye4203]

​@@Shamrockavellieum he's saying he can do his moves. It'd be a bite if he did it against someone else. Get a clue.

[@Shamrockavellie]

@@buddyboye4203Not true at all lol buddy been biting Hong 10 for a while now. He uses hong 10’s stuff all the time. He’s a big ass biter he doesn’t even change shit up he just flat out bites whole ass sets. Stop defending this shit.

[@Shamrockavellie]

@@buddyboye4203 Not a good response. If he could respond with something similar but his own would be a better than literally doing Hong 10’s combo lol

[@fabricioguimaraes3915]

Bite-ing forever

[@cinema5031]

“the energy is insane” hong 10 looking for everyone’s energy

[@mariejama5549]

A/// dope battles all dancer's congratulations ...

[@kenjisan5520]

I think litheing bite too many moves, like some on hong 10, and 3 moves from Ryan Conferido from questcrew, the headstall, suicide backdrop , and belly flop , which is inspired by bboy shuvan, but here lithe ing is doing it the same way of how Ryan Conferido is doing it. I don’t know what else he bite. Well despite in this battle it’s clearly his win. Edit: I think he also bited some blow ups from Niggas and some other OG french bboys.

[@JDzer0]

Let Ronnie and kid David do the commentating pls

[@breakbreakrigs]

Hands down. Breaking needs to be in Olympics everytime. Get some really good exposure in terms of financial, fame, and mostly love and unity.

[@bboyKirya]

bite after bite ))))

[@clovertwentyfour]

whats the name of 1st song?

[@NikolasSerpanos]

Hong 10 won 2-1. By openly allowing blatant biting in high level competition we are doing a major disservice to the culture our history and to our Art form overall.

[@zabu14]

it's time to drop separation and embrace unification

[@NikolasSerpanos]

@@zabu14 unification of what? Biting and copying? Breaking is in its essence originating and expressing your own movements not who can copy the best.

[@하남우-j8x]

Lil zoo, lil lou, jeffro, kid colombia, hongten, zootyzoot, yuki, issin in the lithe-ing this battle. He is kakashi. Lol

[@暮成雪-u6c]

I knew that Litheing bite a lot, but when we look carefully at the scores for each round, the judges are very reasonable. Litheing’s execution and dynamic can exactly makes up for its lack of originality.

[@vincentv975]

most moves aren't original anymore. i enjoy watching bboys one up each other. whatever you can do i can do better basically.. its like skating now...

[@bklyncrook]

Exactly, just like figure skating, skateboard and gymnastic. You can do a triple axel, well I can do a quadruple axel. You can do a tre flip down a 9 sets, while, I can do a Nolie tre flip down a 10 sets. Double back flip on the gymnastic floor, please, I can do a triple black flip with a half twist.

[@Cantdanceforreal]

I have question is originality a judging criteria ? If it’s not then hey it’s hair game .. just business

[@bklyncrook]

I would think Olympic scoring would be different than other BBoy battles as they have their own governing body to break down the criteria. Since Olympic is a sporting event, therefore, we have to look at these competitions in the frame of a sport than art. I would think that they might score similar to figure skating where there're the technical points and the components/performance points. Probably the same in the floor exercise of gymnastic. In figure skating, the skaters have to perform necessary moves for the judges to grade objectively like how one skater execute the triple axel, if not all skaters won't take the risk of trying to do a quadruple to score higher than those that only can do triple or double. Therefore, if there're no set standards for technical scoring in sports, then the skaters, gymnasts and Breakers will just move well with the music with no one attempting to do hard moves. Therefore, to answer your question and looking at examples of other sports that have artistic merits - I think originality might be part of the scoring system, but, to point again that it's a sporting event, then they have to see how well a human body can achieve in their absolute movements with their execution. I think recent skateboarding being part of the Olympics can also be another good example of how to score. Overall, a move is original when first done by someone until it becomes an established vocabulary of set discipline. I won't go into deep on how Breakin' takes a lot of moves from other discipline too. But, we have to look at this from a lens that we have to judge and score this as a sport than a dance competition.

[@siuabc]

Korean is smiling from the whole time. Should be fun :). Music is better than one in Olympic

[@bhayago]

As a comunity, we should be ashamed of this desition. This is what we get for going olympic.

[@davin22-88]

5:03 song name??

[@Neji90]

Hong10 gave it to him. Still dope 👏

[@Decoy22x]

Is that Luan's back flip to head to airchair lmao

[@TheBishop12]

That’s an original move?

[@visualprofessionals]

when you buy things at walmart...you never settle for the generic brands?

[@sac1218]

Commentary along with choppy ass video quality is a crazy combo

[@yfbnjio5364]

Litheing was fire. He deserved the win. We should judge them without bias. Hong10 is already a legend. He has nothing more to prove, but I do wish he gets the gold in Paris.

[@Sneak-er]

According to what I heard, the chinese government affected a lot on deciding the criteria of scoring system in the breaking as sports such as these games and games in olympic. And they knew their ATHLETES have no originality. So they insisted on removing the originality section from the score board. And also they make it come true that sending a bite sign on the stage is a violation of a rule or something like what causes negative scores.

[@brucekwong7295]

can you please let everyone know what you got those information from? i see there is some bite from the chinese bboy, but not surprise because biting exist since the breaking was born, but could you please tell everyone what source told you the chinese government force the olympic society to give up their standard over somebody called liter ing, not hong 10. KZbin is a place for free speech i am not against you, but hopefully what your saying is not from a high school drop out, our some housewife or janitor, or just anybody wanting to disgrade the olympic society. please show your source. yes you!

[@Decoy22x]

I can see Robin throwing that shit entire day

[@markstanton1402]

Where are you getting your information from? The judging system used for breaking in the Olympics has been public knowledge for 2 years now and is comprised of 3 categories: physicality, originality, and musicality. I'm not giving an opinion on the judging for this battle, but the result could've been Hong 10 took originality, and Lithe-ing took physicality and musicality. The people who created the judging system (Storm and Renegade) have emphasized before that while originality is important, it is only 1 aspect of breaking, especially competitive breaking. There are other factors, like physicality and musicality, that are all equally weighted.

[@Sneak-er]

@@markstanton1402 I've heard that it had been changed a lot since it was initially discussed. The systems of the competitions including judges' guidelines varied over time and confused everyone who did have contact with the internal people. Even shortly before this competition in the video the judging method was discussed. For example, you could see that originality was considered in the early competitions for Olympics but now it isn't and due to that reasons especially Chinese players are very strong as you could find in the corresponding competition. As far as remember, I got this info from bboy Snipa at bboy's zealot's channel who used to be a member of TIP crew and as of 5 months ago one of the judges for Olypics. (kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJe4m32unLJ6itk) You can see in the video, (probably he thought it was controversial or draw too much attention) he cut the part and put the label "copy part excluded". But it was available when the video was initially uploaded.

[@Sneak-er]

@@Decoy22x Yeah as always. That's his signature move.

[@노네임-x5z]

copy cat

[@김현성-k5l]

Robbery

[@radupavel5481]

Im not sure which move you all hatin on litheing for.. The one crumbs did before hong10 the one boorock did before hong10 or the one naytron did before hong10 You all forget 15 years ago a lot of people were calling hong10 the biter

[@CedrickJones-ci3ri]

Woweeee !!! B Boy RO-BOP

[@ayh4ng]

haha , typical china move , bite-ing for everything

[@Sage-zs9qy]

too hard to watch with the Red Bull angles and the commentary...

[@breaktown]

🔥🔥🔥

[@M8TRIX777]

So many bites bro

[@LuisCarlos-eu7ml]

Q amasso viu

[@AvarClan]

Lithe-ing has Zero originality and basically copy paste bboy. Don't know how he got so far, then again i do know. an event in china :D

[@UCantSeeemeee]

Since inception of bboy everyone copied each other with adding their own taste so stfu losers 😂

[@노네임-x5z]

1라 홍텐 승, 2라 라이팅 승, 3라 홍텐 실수 2번.... 그래서 진 건 맞긴 한거 같음, 홍텐이 실수만 안했으면 근소하게 이겼을지도.. 3라 투표도 보면 1표차..... ㅠㅠ 근데 라이팅이 카피가 좀...그렇다.

[@luck-China]

originality is a part of judgement, not everything

[@UbePapi]

Breaking should always be about originality. Represent who YOU are. That would be the highest form of Breakin is what you contribute to the culture, i.e. originating moves, style, etc.

[@UbePapi]

thats why bboys like Hong-10, Luigi, Crumbs, K-mel, etc are respected and legendary.

[@luck-China]

@@UbePapidifferent competitions have different rules. originality is important , like R16 there are 5 parts for judgement. maybe we don't know the standard of this competition. please tell me why Ami beat 671 on Red bull final stages? red bull has their rules.

[@welligtonrdc6591]

Lithe-ing, tem muito arsenal, Bboy completo🔥

[@Snow7X-x1m]

O cara morde vários movimentos mano, arsenal só se for dos outros

[@taylorlomba]

Hong10s mistakes in the 3rd round cost him. In terms of the 3rd round, I saw: Lithe-ing:: a nice transition, one clean combo, some fluff, a questionable bite?/incomplete move response (he just did his opponent’s move but didn’t make it better… so it was pointless lol) and a flashy blowup executed super well, so it was an exciting ending vs Hong 10:: original style and approach. pulled out 3 original concepts, but made 2 slips + last concept he cut it short. If executed as clean as usual, Hong 10 would have no question taken the last round. His round was way more complete in terms of the craft of the dance.. but execution matters. It’s a fact of life and a fact of the battle. Props to everyone digging deep mentally physically and spiritually in this art ✌🏾

[@Decoy22x]

that bite-ling dude, he legit bit every top bboy lol. He didn't even use his move, he is like Kakashi from naruto. Just straight doing signature from other bboy to the top lmao. Even bit Lee's move during the final.

[@okccitizen4400]

#hong10 / #commentaryrb

[@beelor196]

Everyone hating on lithe-ing and calling him a biter now. 5 years later when he starts winning every battle they going to call him a legend by being to able to execute everyone/all moves. Everyone copy everyone in bboying but no one calls anyone out when they see someone doing a airchair, windmill, airflare, 90's, threading, toprock, etc... People be saying he's not original but where do you draw a line between what is bboying and not bboying. I've seen what some call "original" and to me it doesn't even look like bboying anymore. More like some theatre dancing.

[@Decoy22x]

bitething won't be legend lmao. There are ton of cats like him. They just quit.

[@LiDragoo009]

I don’t like this Chinese dude,but he’s scarily strong.

[@brucekwong7295]

i see there are some haters, of course they exist in our society, come online and start doing their famous shit talk over some bboys and of course some government. not surprised but you wonder why they are not the judges sitting there, as if the judges dont know any better about biting. what really does it change coming on here and doing all shit talk. originality is part of the dance, not all of it, i dont know how could the judges make it more clear to those haters, like what else do the judges do to make these haters understand judging??????? you have to understand, team china's coaches are bboy munir, Sam, and so on, so they taught the chinese kids to bite then? what about, responding to your oponents, what about excusion, what about power, what about musicality. so if somebody comes on the stage and start doing latin with 6 step in his/her own way then he wins the olympic champion?? well yes because base on your idea, originality is the bible! nothing else. go try it in your local dance event and see if it works. fucking haters are dumb as hell, and only the dumbest sound the loudest. wo hooooo

[@Decoy22x]

I mean it is Olympic. Originality isn't heavy weight. Dynamic is. Liting is perfect for Olympic since he is very dynamic and technical. Olympic is heavy toward the sport and athleticism. Can't deny he took a lot of signature from other bboy tho

[@DayeNi]

These haters were generalizing, calling Litheing a biter and ignoring his execution, technique, variety, performativity, and musicality.

[@Decoy22x]

@@DayeNi because he is a biter. You Chinese don't have eyes?

[@powermoveairflare8889]

Soy fan boy de hong10 pero aquí lo rompieron mucho mejor el chino

[@Jin673-q4e]

但是他还是赢了不是吗。

[@sidneireis8242]

Não adiantou fazer corridinha não a idade bateu 😅

[@gracadulo6111]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@DenisSilva-tx8lk]

Era pra ser 3x0 viu e ainda tão dizendo que era pra hon10 ter ganhado 😅 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂