BREAKING: A Two-Front War AND Tactical Nukes Are A REAL Possibility Now | Ray McGovern

The real meaning of Jake Sullivan's China trip has nothing to do with US-China relations and everything with the war in Ukraine, says Ray McGovern, a renowned US intelligence analyst. Sullivan went to China to sound out the possible Chinese reactions to a US escalation of the Ukraine proxy-war with the use of the last weapons that the American's have not yet shipped to its Kiev war-implementation partner, namely tactical nukes. However, it is also clear that the Chinese would react to such an escalation in their very own ways.
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Ray McGovern served as a CIA analyst for 27 years. His duties included chairing National Intelligence Estimates and preparing the President’s Daily Brief. In January 2003, Ray co-created “Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity” (VIPS) to expose how intelligence was being falsified to “justify” war on Iraq.

[@scuba36fun]

Finally, as a Russian I'm hearing people who has a clue what they talking about!

[@ianpuddick]

Good people - watch Judging Freedom Podcast with Judge Andrew Napolitano 👍👍

[@joelturley4847]

Kiev in threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee days 😂😂😂

[@joelturley4847]

​@@ianpuddickTrumpovich is going to jail 😂😂😂

[@samoramoisessequeiramirand8307]

This came from American propaganda. No government official in the Russian Federation made that statement. Or have you seen it somewhere? If so, leave the link, please!​@@joelturley4847

[@katrinhochreiter9431]

You ok? ​@@joelturley4847

[@charlesng5465]

Of course the best analyst in USA. That's how he was in CIA for 27 years and briefed President Ronald Reagan as head of National Intelligence. Fortunately Ray is still around to interpret and give us the real news about the Ukraine war and Gaza debacle. God bless you Mr McGovern .

[@Bleilock1]

He was behind reagan? Tnx for heads up Dont have to listen to conservative and american imperialist lies lol

[@keithpeters5886]

On

[@williamzk9083]

“Neutrality Studies” is a front organisation for Russian propaganda. A trial for war criminal dictator Putin who started the war. Russia has no right to a zone of influence where it dictates the government of other nations.

[@gustavagenbacht6600]

One of the few people extremely well informed, a great gentleman, and able to cut through the bullshit artificial complexities of Geopolitics, and bring simple, truthful and lucid synopsis and insight. All with an easy, great sense of Humour Noir. Such a rare combination in one human being in the acrid, nefarious West. What a great pleasure to have you as a friend, Ray. Even if it's just on KZbin.

[@tonykuli]

Europe and the UK have spread chaos all over the World, even the Spanish killed over 6 million people in South America and without modern day weaponry. These people have not changed ...Judgement day is coming but not before they cause ww3 Armagedon

[@Buf-g6m]

A gentleman indeed.

[@joelturley4847]

Here's 50 cents wumao 😂

[@user-pv6mi9nm8i]

@@joelturley4847Wumao - five ten cent/fen coin - is the same size as an American quarter and used to fit in the old-fashioned parking meters which took coins before they were replaced with the current digital designs

[@PerceivedREALITY999]

US wanted to make a fool out of Russia and China. But instead, the US made a fool of itself. Let that be a lesson.

[@stevenhendrix4768]

Russia doesn' need the US to make a fool out of itself they are doing it on a regular basis themselves just fine. From a 3 day SMO to being invaded themself 3 years later. Sad silly toothless circus bear that is the Russian bear for you. US did not make a fool out of themselves they made a coward out of themselves by their constant fear of escalation and self imposed redlines under what conditions their old crap weapons can be used by Ukraine. Russia has no redlines bombing an terrorising Ukraine so why should we have redlines. USA must send their help to Ukraine unconditionally and learn to trust Ukraine using those donated weapons as they see fit.

[@pauldailey4477]

You are a minority.

[@TheWolf-xe2kz]

fuckedmup Ukraine is what West did.

[@johnsolberg5611]

Now what does not make sense is nato backing russia in a corner and think russia won't use tactical bombs I mean is if they want russia to use them?

[@michaelanukam3314]

Ray is one of the most sound analyst I've listened to so far

[@RonTriebel-lt7ig]

@@michaelanukam3314 Ray has got a soft spot🤔 for Putin 😍😘. 🙏🇺🇦🇰🇷🇺🇸🇯🇵🇨🇦🇫🇷🇪🇺🇵🇭🇵🇱🇮🇱🇬🇧🇦🇺

[@ramongabutina8015]

So far Ukraine keeps on advancing & for quite sometime now.

[@kkiwi54]

Looks a bit like Saul Berenson 😅

[@alexnosal2277]

You are such a pleasure to watch Ray McGovern. Not only are you brutally honest, but fearless in sharing your information. You are a true American patriot and the 99% are fortunate to have you.

[@pkia898]

@@alexnosal2277 you should get a room

[@hawkbartril3016]

I heard him say that he started at the CIA in 1963 and I was born a year before. Man he's doing well, he must be in his eighties or thereabouts

[@Jean-rg4sp]

@@hawkbartril3016 He lives off his reputation for being one of the baddies.

[@galeparker1067]

And Putin started with the KGB........ 🤔🇨🇦@hawkbartril3016

[@WendyTing]

I admire McGovern’s wisdom and a respectful politician. He unveils the dark side of politics.

[@tonybenn1000]

American politics Wendy. They are Gangsters, plain and simple.

[@MaryLou5239]

Same here❤

[@ooohnooo8029]

I don't think we need to be normalising the idea that using nuclear weapons and nuclear war is inevitable. We should be doing everything we can to let our govts and leaders know that nuclear war is unacceptable at every level. It seems that the West has totally lost it's collective ability to engage in diplomacy. Conventional war itself should be the last resort....NOT nuclear war.

[@D4NK1]

How's that been working? "We should be trying to change our government even though we have no power to change the government"

[@dvegule920]

EU Ursula v. d. Leyen said that peace for all costs is not good enough.

[@enricomarchese3217]

​@@dvegule920that woman Is pure evil. She should Just go to hell!

[@tinaforbes1059]

​@@dvegule920 That eu witch 🧙‍♀️ is the biggest problem in the first place .

[@stevenhendrix4768]

Let the Russian people inform their government that nuclear war is unacceptable see how fast they will fall out of a window! Who is constantly threatening with nuclear war? Is it the west? Is it Ukraine? I think not. When did Biden or Macron said we are going to nuke Russia? The only one ratteling the nuclear sable is Putin for years now. If you do this or if you do that there is a risk of a nuclear war. That is the cowards way of saying if you do this I will drop the bomb. Nuclear missiles don't lauch themselves. No there isn't a risk on a nuclear war unless he fires one first but if he does then he will have no country left to rule like a tsar. Putin is a cry bully "please stop me before I go berserk" kind of guy. Relax! he won't go nuclear because he may be a maniac he is not a suicidal maniac. The west is not responsible for the nuclear threats Putin makes. The threats are entirely his responsability. Stop the gaslighting

[@stuartcleary71]

The US merely replaced the UK at the head of the Anglo American corporate Military empire, and continued to use 1800's tactics to project power around the world, which worked very successfully for Britain and various other European powers during the 1800's, in the first half of the 1900's the UK EU & US (aka the collective West) had a technological advantage over the rest of the world, which they chose to focus on projecting military power, entertainment & fast food, followed by Neoliberal policies to deindustrialize, before military adventurism into Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, various skirmishes in Africa and Ukraine. Today Europe is collapsing with the US on shaky ground. China and other Asian countries appear to have better technology & far more manufacturing capacity than the US, UK & Europe combined. Russia which the US spent decades deriding has better military technology and far more Military manufacturing capacity than all of NATO, yet China could quickly surpass anything Russia has achieved to date and yet some of the Neocons and Chiefs of staff are still delusional enough to think the US can survive a major confrontation with Both Russia and China at the same time. That's not just Ludicrous, it's suicidal.

[@user-xz1nc3vc3n]

I'm french and i agree with you , on top of of that we have an uncontrolable unwanted immigration ( thank to wokisme) our future is bleak.

[@effexon]

I agree there can be potential but in russia it cant be... their current regime is simply beyond corrupt culture. of china im not so sure, they have their issues. midsized growing countries nobody "notices" now could grow to fill void if collapse happens. we are very testing times and all cards are on US single point of vulnerability. China for sure has giant manufacturing capacity they have been building for decades. do regular people support all that machinery is another question (other than with gunpoint of ultimate control).

[@effexon]

@@user-xz1nc3vc3n how is french mentality? I dont see france as strong country, every same problem and constant economic (leftist) policies have riddled them always but at least there is challenging spirit to not do and obey with bad plans, although mild challenge(de Gaulle comes to mind, Id think he had reasons to do so, to protect sovereign plans which helps to keep innovation, renewal of thinking alive... most critical aspect of nation to organize itself)

[@Time4Peace]

​@@user-xz1nc3vc3nImmigrants and refugees into Europe are outcomes of wars and poverty inflicted upon nations in the Middle East, Asia and Africa. Helping these nations to grow economically will stop this flow. China's infrastructure building in these countries will help. Ironically, instead of helping with these infrastructure buildings, the EU is hindering it!

[@user-xz1nc3vc3n]

@@effexon Sorry to contradic you the problems is not right or left as can be witnessed by our last3 presidents who came from 3 different party . But all have the same master . that's our problem but french people are'nt miserable enough for the time being , will sees what tomorow brings .

[@insidiousmischka]

My grandpa died in 2017, can anyone ask Ray if he wants to adopt me as his granddaughter? I’d love to listen to him all day… I’ll even make dinner, desert, serve good cognac… 😊❤

[@ej3291]

Ray is a national treasure, a true American patriot, and a real Russian expert.

[@christianefiorito3204]

I am very very angry about all NATO politicians who said yes to the Kursk invasion. And I am also very angry that Joe Biden approved the use of ATACMS on Russian territory.

[@joelturley4847]

😂😂😂😂

[@fredrikh9299]

Is that you Putin? 😂

[@charleslewis6047]

Biden didn't make that decision, but Winken, Blicken and Nod of our state department which is actually the voice of Bibi Netanyahu and his minions that have infiltrated themselves into the U.S. government at all levels and directs our military to defend Israel without a declaration of war.

[@kirilmazurek2843]

All orchestrated by USA>

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

The NATO nations have no say over the USA. They need the war to go on past the U.S. election . Then they will drop it

[@jamesgerrardbrown5169]

The " F""" the EU" recording , really was accurately undesirable , it was undeniably...a very sadly striking unforgettable experience for all who have heard it, those few years ago...🤐☮

[@universalflamethrower6342]

It kicked off todays world in the most truthfully blunt way possible

[@BrennanYoung]

One of the very few statements made by Ms. Nuland which turned out correct.

[@macrosense]

It through back the curtain on what the neocon machinations had been and were worth for some time

[@user-xz1nc3vc3n]

I am french last EU electection i voted frenchxit . EU is going to implose europeens are fed up with it and NATO will go down with it .

[@charleslewis6047]

Does one really have to wonder where Victoria Nuland's hubris originates? Just look at what ethic group runs the U.S. state department, congress and has a desk in every congressional office in the U.S. and has bought off every administration of the U.S. since the CIA coupe de tat of America with the assassination of JFK. and the introduction of the 51st state of Israel and its AIPAC installed overseers into all 50 states of the union. To know those who rule over you, simply find those whom you cannot criticize.

[@lucysteiner4556]

My greatest surprise as an Australian CIA skeptic for 50 years I am really surprised there were people in the CIA with the intellect, knowledge, wisdom, common sense, patience and integrity of Ray McGovern. So can I ask Ray, Why didn’t you do something to stop the rot even way back in the 70’s. Even in Australia there are many of us who believe the CIA orchestrated a coup or at least undermined the government, in the 1970’s of a popular elected progressive government whose policies challenged US hegemony.

[@Dave.Barlow]

Well, if it's anything like the military, he probably did. But he is just an analyst and those who led the CIA chose to ignore what he was saying, and/or were just extensions of the political class. In the case of the CIA, the compartmentalization of information means he probably didn't even know 20% of what the CIA is up to

[@carahiggs7157]

Yes undermining and sacking of mr Whitlem was orchestrated by the CIA

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

The Americans are way smarter than most people think. What they miss is they simply don’t give a shit. It’s the luxury of total power for 35 years

[@GenghisDon1970]

I think he'd answer that there were 2 CIAs back then...intel & analysis vs operations/everything else/wetworks...they were not on the same page, even hated/opposed each other. The later is all there is today Or so I've heard him explain it beforehand

[@Time4Peace]

@@GenghisDon1970 McGovern was not the head of CIA. Even a President like JFK couldn't stop the CIA and hence speculation still exists that JFK was killed by a CIA operation and covered up.

[@theresabarzee1463]

Oh hooray! Ray is a dear marvel. One of the most trustworthy people I follow all the time. Every story, every perceptive anecdote, I remember. Ray, whose "even older than Biden," but morally - intellectually, leagues above him & these fools in office. Bless you, Pascal. This is our favorite! By gosh, get Ray to sing, if you want the tears to flow, the hearts to open! Thank you, Ray!

[@reinhardbonelli8762]

It was always my basic worry that US will be using nuclear weapons first and not Russia. They did it to Japan, for the reason Ray is pointing out. The world war was already over, but they still needed to drop it. It is just difficult to describe this idiotic way of foreign policies.

[@watchbywatch]

Japan did not have the wherewithal to reply in kind. Russia does

[@davecohn6407]

First use guarantees the retaliatory use, which in turn guarantees a return use etc . The world is over in 90 minutes

[@watchbywatch]

@@davecohn6407 Yep....but the American psychopaths currently in power don't see it that way...

[@watchbywatch]

@@davecohn6407Yep......but American psychopaths in power don't see it that way

[@jakomotobacceroni]

​@@watchbywatchyes, Russians psychopaths are better. More sovjet like mcgovern.

[@MarionGrisdale]

Blessings to Ray McGovern ! Just wish there were more gentlemen across the world in other countries who would want to get an international anti - war association to put pressure on the wealthy people who fund the politicians ! 🎉❤

[@mark_2]

The fact that foreign policy is dictated by defense contractors and their oligarch investors and not by the public through elections should dispel all myths about western democracy.

[@tinaforbes1059]

​@@mark_2 Indeed. Because the western so called democracy grows out of the barrel of a gun .

[@skog44]

That was great! Thank you Ray and Pascal for giving each other the time you deserve and the rest of us need.

[@jamesgerrardbrown5169]

If BRICS can get China and India, who are not enemies, yet sometimes are like respectful next door neighbours who have minor border issues that are unpleasant sorted out and show a great example of how nations can cooperate, the world will benefit hugely ☮🕉

[@ManwithNoName-t1o]

if China and India aren't enemies then why do they fight at the border and kill each other?

[@moniruzzamankhan8218]

Thank you for having Ray on your show. Good discussion too.

[@40over86]

Thank you Pascal, for letting your guest complete his thoughts and fully express his ideas. Too many interviewers waste time trying to impress their audience with how bright they are by constantly interrupting and changing the subject.

[@GraceCanadaful]

Putin runs Russia with an iron hand - demanding loyalty and, depending on who, different levels of obedience. He also makes life in Russia better and better for the average people. He is smart, consistent, well educated and the experienced spy. He loves Russia, he is deeply patriotic. I happen to respect him and wish him good health and success in freeing his complex and hard to keep together country, from pesky ukrainian national shovinists (yes - those for whom Stepan Bandera is a national hero). I love Russian tradition and culture - architecture, music and literature. I love Russian language - soft and melodic. I am so lucky for learning it at school. Go Russia!

[@grayarcana]

The USA is the exceptional country, the most exceptional in the historical record. Fear of offending the sensibilities of US citizens forbids me from going into any details.

[@tonykuli]

Exceptionally naive

[@rogerburn5132]

USA is Mostly Europeans from 16. 17 18 19 century. Nothing more . Irish. English. Holland. Poland. Russians. Sweden. Norway. Scotland. Germans so on.....

[@Congtrihayankeomut]

Exceptionally ignorant

[@rustybot4279]

The US has been exeptional evil in evry thing rhey have done. The US has been the adggressor in 33 wars sin 1889, alwys used the wolds wost wapons, worst tactics like filling mexico with black slaves so they could attac the peacefull mexico.

[@effexon]

I read this as sarcasm. it can be either way, both are still valid viewpoints.

[@katrinweigel3796]

I really doubt that people like Sullivan and Blinken ever learn something. Maybe they are driven by fear at some point. But I expect the worst of them.

[@pausereflect5911]

Driven by "not on my watch" for the loss of EMPIRE.

[@effexon]

Sullivan seems like corporate loyal worker in highest level (Executive level, yet not CEO type boss)... what is that grand plan going on, i dont know. By this I mean only great exceptional statesmen in history had CEO type self agency... it is extremely rare luxury nowadays due to machinery of politics.

[@jacobjorgenson9285]

They are not there to learn, they are there to serve the MIC and AIPAC . And they have been exceptional successful in doing that .

[@turgutnoyan2270]

Mr.Ray McGovern is a very brilliant intelligent man.

[@michaelpattison8543]

How the modern collective West needs more people like Ray McGovern. A real Russia expert.

[@joelturley4847]

😂😂😂😂

[@valerietweedie4376]

What a wonderful show, Pascal! You have done such an amazing job with this channel. Ray McGovern is such a wise and compassionate man! Please invite him back. You have so many wonderful questions and he has so much wisdom to impart.

[@kirilmazurek2843]

M. McGovern, bless you, we need more people like you speaking up and exposing the truth. Thank you.

[@deanzaZZR]

This is a tour de force conversation. Ray is a true American patriot and a force for world peace.

[@none194]

American patriotism and world peace is an oxymoron

[@timkbirchico8542]

@@none194 I just thought the same

[@joelturley4847]

Here's 50 cents wumao 😂

[@rustybot4279]

​​@@none194is sad, that they only becamed a 2nd word Threshold countriy. They where so close.

[@timkbirchico8542]

@@joelturley4847 many US people dont even want 50c they spout nonsensical propaganda for free because they live in the rabbit hole.

[@tunabirdy3567]

The idea of using nuke in Ukraine is just insane!

[@jeanpaulfelix4095]

Never heard of him until now. Thank you sir for telling the truth and for fighting for our future.

[@AlvaroPiner]

He is a living legend: deep knowledge, wisdom and integrity toguether❤

[@MaryLou5239]

Thank you Pascal for having the great Ray McGovern on your show. ❤

[@davidbabin387]

I've got too say that Ray McGovern explains all of this so well! In a world where we can only assume that a narrative is true, he presents a narrative that is so honest that I must agree with what I hear from him. Sounds, too me, like he is directly over the target! Ever since I found him on YT, I always found that his assessment of why things are happening, as they are globally, he paints a picture that is understandable, and acceptable.

[@GrafStorm]

Honest informed discussion of very topical issues that indeed impact the whole world, thank you Ray and Pascal for your efforts to promote discourse which seeks sanity and peace.

[@taybak8446]

Hi Pascal, you and Ray McGovern have such a beautiful synergy. I really hope you get to meet him in person before it's too late. He's a giant. A legend. Greetings from South Korea.

[@perucho2194]

It's a pleasure to listen to these 2 gentlemen

[@davidcritchley3509]

Not quite as much russiaphobia in Germany. The Alternative for Germany party is doing quite well. They want peace with Russia.

[@MichaelKennedy-tr1xc]

Ray McGovern is exceptional..😊👍

[@elainemagson213]

A wonderful and instructive hour. Pascal is such a good interviewer. Ray is an infinite source of understanding,history and good sense. Thank you.

[@BlancGivre]

Ray McGovern is fantastic! Please have him again soon!

[@pcg9829]

Thanks Pascal for having Ray on the program. He is one of very few analysts that still understand real-politik! Merci

[@bkxt]

its too dangerous for EU and US to understand Putin because he makes sense

[@bruceclark4754]

If Ray were in New Zealand, I woyld adopt him. He's everyones kindly and most wise Granddad❤

[@jologo18]

Superb interview! Pascal, you posed the most enigmatic question of all: who is actually running US foreign policy? The probable answer does not inspire confidence. Thank you both.

[@nicolasjuandecardenas7921]

A pleasure to listen to Mr McGovern.

[@CatPDX]

Ray is always wonderful to listen to! Thanks so much Pascal for having him on your channel 💖

[@namur-iq6ih]

The idea that this attack in any way hurts Russia SMO is difficult to accept. Ukraine has not taken the city of Kursk; they have merely taken some, mostly rural, parts of the oblast, or region of Kursk. The largest town they have taken is Sudzha, which has just over 6,000 people. Much of the territory they have captured is empty fields. Even if they manage to take Kursk proper -which isa highly unlikely, it is a city with less than 500,000 people and one that is not significant to the Russia’s plans. The idea that Russia will break down and negotiate with Ukraine is a fantasy; Russia needs not to rush to such ends. Russia has plenty of volunteers, whereas Ukraine is running out of them. They will simply wait and slowly take their land back, inch by inch, throwing as many troops into the field as necessary. When they’re done, the situation will look even worse for Ukraine than when it started: Ukraine will have lost men, used up arms, and gained nothing. Russia will, in the meantime, have slowly continued chipping away at Ukraine’s territory in the south, as it is now doing.

[@kindaplayerone4128]

Spot on man!

[@davidkendal1361]

For the interest of disclosure I am not on your side. I will say though, Ukraine isn't attemping to use the Kursk region as a bargaining chip. It is a buffer zone that will be (held/attemped to be held) to beyond the end of the war.

[@vivekkaushik9508]

The delusions of Russian/Russian-biased individuals never end to amaze me. Even if Moscow were to fall, these folks would still be saying, "Oh! Its just 10% of Russia, which has been captured, we still have 90% of barren land which we can still use to fight gorilla warfare". Same with Ukrainians. No wonder its a fight b/w two idiot brothers.

[@AjitMD]

@@davidkendal1361Held after the war as part of a Treaty of Versailles?

[@lets_discuss5352]

@@davidkendal1361 More than this (Kursk) as a buffer zone, there's already a buffer zone in Zelensky's head that needs to be taken over and stuffed with common sense!

[@zorajg]

Amazing mind of Ray is my favorite analyst. Always listening him with ears wide open to learn. Thx for bringing him on your podcast!

[@terryoneilp1421]

Ray is the sane voice of America.

[@davidcritchley3509]

This is the most worrying time. When rhe western block is wounded. It might lash out very foolishly

[@tonykuli]

Maybe that's why Russia is moving so cautiously in Ukraine !

[@RobMoores-pv2bo]

Thank-you for having Mr. McGovern on your channel. Very informative !!

[@StabilityReport]

You two guys. A pleasure to read the respect in Pascals face.

[@markcodd3296]

Ray brilliant as always..Greetings from Ireland

[@janweaver3112]

Ray you are a hero, thank you patriot.

[@fassilgabremariam7849]

Why don’t we talk about the World Economic Forum, a fascistic organization unelected dictating our foreign and domestic policy

[@aleaiactaest8354]

😂 Who is actually running the US foreign policy? This is just incredible situation...it's a sort of coup? Shadow democracy?

[@mnet1514]

Nice to see Ray on Pascal's channel. Much respect to you both!

[@treefrog3349]

The World is rapidly awakening to the fact that America is NOT an "indispensable nation" and that America Exceptionalism is little more than a sophisticated "ad campaign" that would make any Madison Avenue executive swoon.

[@Theone-bc7tr]

Usa 🤮

[@julianss3289]

Rey is fantastic as always! America has learned nothing from history!

[@jawadad73]

That's how they went after Scott Ritter, ...better declare that free cup to the IRS Ray!

[@jossiesh7649]

Thank you, Mr Ray McGovern, for your wisdom. I hope the collective West’s so-called leaders will listen to you and think.

[@user-lb8mq3fu9t]

Zum Thema "Putinversteher": Wer den anderen nicht versteht, der wird zuerst den Frieden verlieren und dann den Krieg. Weil den anderen zu verstehen ist sowohl die Voraussetzung Fuer Frieden als auch fuer einen Sieg im Krieg!

[@alexv1269]

Russia-China bored is 2615,5 miles. Its sixth longest border between countries.

[@NoroAmehr]

Lavrov actually hinted Russia might hit DC, not the bases, say in Romania.

[@michelsascha]

I would'nt say DC but a base in US territory

[@Алекс-ъ8у2ш]

Комплексы ПРО Aegis Ashore в Польше и в Румынии приоритетные цели.

[@NoroAmehr]

@@Алекс-ъ8у2ш Што такое Aegis Ashore?

[@Jean-rg4sp]

*You could have knocked me down with a feather when I recently heard ray McGovern say on another channel that it does not matter to what extent the Americans get involved with sending munitions to the Ukraine, Russia will not take it out on Americans and that everyone in the United States is safe as it is only the Europeans who might get hit by Russian retaliation. The man is not listening to Lavrov and Putin or cannot properly analyse plain Russian speaking.*

[@richardknight-x1r]

That was then. Lavrov's statements were only in the last week.

[@Jean-rg4sp]

@@richardknight-x1r Correct. It was after Lavrov's statement last week that McGovern said the Americans are completely safe. I couldn't believe my ears

[@Theone-bc7tr]

Russia would definitely strike the US directly if that's the case

[@harbinger6562]

Amen Good afternoon Mr Ray and Pascal ♥️🌍🦾😇🕊️

[@user-ic9tl3rv1k]

There are at least two scenarios of the US firing a nuclear weapon on Russia, but only one outcome. If the US is intending to fire a nuclear weapon at Russia, in all its narcissist assurance that Russia do not have the balls to fire back on the US with nuclear weapons. But, unexpectedly Russia respond in kind, and of course, on the US. That will take the US nerve, and that would be the end of that. However, if the US in all its hubris ways is itching for an all or nothing end game with Russia, and fires a nuclear weapon at Russia first, itching for Russia to respond, and as expected, Russia responds. We can be sure the outcome, to this scenario, will be entirely different.

[@watchbywatch]

The outcome of both scenarios is the same: the end of life as we know it throughout most of the planet.

[@PhiliusMaximus]

Thanks! A lot more truth here than MSM

[@EJS0100]

Great job! Thank you for making this available gentlemen. May the next American republic listen to Mr. McGovern!

[@marcobsomer5574]

Excellent résumé de l'histoire, merci.

[@evibremer8891]

The press in the United States is far from being free, and you certainly know it.

[@fellowcitizen]

🧡Ray🧡 ⭐VIPS⭐

[@kahhowong3417]

The absurdity of Gunship Diplomacy for land lubbers.

[@KiteoHatto]

The 90s were rough, my parents had to queue for hours to get basic food rations. You could only have things like jam and chocolate through connections and favors. Gorbachev and Yeltsin sold and squandered what was built up during the ussr. The fall of soviet union left the country weakened and corruption thrived. My parents tell me that ussr were the best years, everyone had jobs, everyone had homes, everyone was educated and polite, no homelessness and drugs.

[@soccerjazz2022]

Clear❗ To favorite and save this for much needed education for everyone! Thank you, gentle gentlemen ❣✌

[@aleaiactaest8354]

Given the fact that the US hegemony has practically ended but the illusion amongst western leaders has not, it seems apparent that the situation is increasingly about how other countries manage that. We are essentially all dependent on the good grace and wise leadership of those other countries ie not the western countries.

[@hoboroadie4623]

I have been saying for many years that Mister Putin has an honest face, and has always maintained a convincing facsimile of integrity. And I always say that if a guy is going to continuously pretend that he is honest, well, I can play along. This is the easiest way. ✌

[@Lucia-sy7le]

He IS honest.

[@ccahill2322]

@hoboroadie4623, What an "honest" "compliment?" You are too kind.

[@maxthemagition]

A two front war? It could soon be a three front war if Belarus gets involved. Which would mean Kyiv would be target number one and there would be hundreds of flights out of Ukraine heading for the USA....

[@jeremystone2658]

Ukrainians shot down its own F16 with its own Patriot before Russian could 😂

[@tonykuli]

Probably a paper cutout

[@wesamboy]

like an episode of the keystone cops ......

[@Theone-bc7tr]

Yep

[@amctothemoon9417]

Perfect Example of AGE and Wisdom It is Highly Uncommon these days we must get Emotion out of our decisions and think Logically

[@JohnDilivio]

The rest of world said USA has no more industrial base just make hamburgers

[@rick4electric]

It's such a coincidence that the Ukraine was emptied of people just in time for the Ukrainian converts to Judaism living in Palestine to come back and repopulate Ukraine!

[@Theone-bc7tr]

I said the same

[@juliensorel5535]

Ray McGovern is getting a bit embarrassing to watch. He was a great analyst in his day, but it is time for him to retire and write his memoirs. I cringed when he said 1990 instead of 2000 and 2002 instead of 2022. Pascal was very kind. He is an intellectual in his own right, not just an interviewer, but he makes his show about the guest, not about himself. My respect for him increases every time I see one of his interviews.

[@davidalexanderlourie4371]

Shared with New Zealands foreign Minister and Minister of Defence. This country signed a defense agreement with Philippines last April. My concern is that as a defense partner, we could be drawn into a war with China. If it wasn't for Chinese goods the average person here could not afford many household items. Does anyone have an opinion on how this could pan out for us?

[@AzizAziz-lc2qk]

Ha ha ha defense pact with new Zealand 😂😂that's almost as bad as a defense pact with Australia 😂😂

[@khunmikeon858]

Your government, like all western governments do not represent the people. They follow the instructions from Washington and their little barking poodle in London and in the process they line their own pockets.

[@frankblangeard8865]

During the war in Vietnam it was considered close to treason to try and understand the feelings of the North Vietnamese. Jane Fonda was nicknamed 'Hanoi Jane'.

[@user-ik2lu8kb1i]

❤Mr. McGovern you are great analyst on latest situation. Thank you. O. S.

[@denome3725]

I am very happy that this channel was recommended to me. What a treasure trove to find.

[@DonVoghano]

The thing abt the US empire nowadays is that nobody is at the helm anymore. It's just institutions on autopilot moving chaotically.

[@user-ps2nn5pj4g]

Love listening to Ray McGovern; plenty have commented on his wisdom, historical knowledge and sensitivity - all good. But, Pascal... Your expressions are priceless!

[@user-pc7fl4ov9b]

So illuminating Ray was allowed to speak at length and without interruption. Jo/alertpalatina

[@keithcooper6715]

REAL History

[@sleepywatcher]

最近印度有一个新闻，当地一个印度祭司在悬崖边有一场祭典，在祭典上祭司和信徒们说：“经过50年的虔诚修行我如今已经可以飞了。” 那时就有很多信徒觉得那是不可能的事，为了让信徒相信祭司就从悬崖直接跳下去。大家猜猜结果是什么？😅 这起事件我觉得祭司和信徒们都有错，祭司的错是因为自己修行那么多年，连自己都相信了自己的谎言，信徒的错是他们明知这是不可能的事却没人阻止祭司跳下悬崖，或许就算有信徒想阻止也没用，祭司也不会听。或许祭典在悬崖边才是命运注定最大的玩笑。

[@mexicanhexican6982]

love you Ray, thanks

[@garyddlewis3067]

Kursk is being liberated, denazified and demilitarised as we speak.

[@jilj1948]

Huge thanks to Ray for all you do to inform God bless you all...

[@WanderingGinko]

Thanks Gents, great discussion. And don't worry Ray, your secret's safe with us....😉

[@enkaiscott]

As for Ray, he is able as few are to give an hour on topics from angles we have never heard before. His insights are so vast, I really think its a shame everyone speaks to a peace warrior about war all the time. We should pick his brain on winning the peace in both western centric theaters of battle? What does peace between Ukraine and Russia look like? What does peace between Israel and Palestine look like? What are the steps? Otherwise we are slaves to the news cycle and the villians that control it. Visionaries need to start speaking to a future when the swords are beaten into plowshares. Peace.

[@MissionaryForMexico]

Finally someone tells the truth about Ukraine! Russia has been kicking their asses involving the war!

[@mishamisholina7561]

Congratulations for a fantastic interview, Mr Pascal. Thanks for sharing your knowledge Mr. Ray.

[@kimberlymims3792]

Thank you, for this interview!