Breaking Down the Future of College Football | SEC | Big 12

[@CLTrattler704]

I am a Miami Hurricane Fan, but stumbled upon this channel when searching for news on this SEC realignment move. You gentlemen are doing a great job. I’ve enjoyed listening to your updates on this topic.

[@keithgupton9349]

I long for the days of when Miami Hurricanes football returns to its glory days.

[@jasonsraberg2560]

I’m a UCLA fan and I love this channel too. They are keeping us in the loop every step of the way

[@boxingworld4896]

Hope to see you guys in the ACC that'd bring in some great games

[@sethstine4698]

It's a college football realignment.

[@someperson3883]

I was looking at it as LSU fan at this.

[@sethstine4698]

Man said "this whole thing has just happened so fast". Like his wife unexpectedly asked him for a separation

[@louispapp7722]

They've been talking for over a year.

[@MrBrranch]

he sounds like a hurt puppy

[@wilsonturner3481]

UVA fan here, just wanted to tell y’all that you’ve done the absolute best job of anyone covering this story. Keep on truckin

[@Canesfan08]

I'm a Miami fan, I have no clue how this channel hit my feed but you guys are great

[@boxingworld4896]

Great show fellas.. WVU would fit perfectly in the ACC.. That'd be a solid conference plus it'd bring back the old Big East rivalry games 🔥

[@lordrayden3045]

That’s what going to happen. And the ACC should try to get Rutgers and Maryland as well. Then the big 10/14 would take Kansas, ISU for sure, and if those two go ACC, I could see the big 10/14 talk to OSU and KSU. Only problem is OSU and KSU aren’t AAU schools. That’s a problem

[@seanfaber6221]

I think you want the west Virginia back in big east. But I really want your team in big 12 for now

[@jcelldogs]

@@lordrayden3045 coming from a big ten fan, I say get rid of Maryland Rutgers and pickup 4 from the big 12. Kansas, k st, isu, Texas tech.

[@boxingworld4896]

@@lordrayden3045 maryland & Rutgers are northern teams tho there fine where they're at lol..

[@boxingworld4896]

@@seanfaber6221 Big East huh? Nah I just think WVU fits better in the ACC because they're more on the East coast.. We dont belong in the Big12 we never have, they're made up of all mid west teams plus I don't feel like flying half way across the country just for a game.. In the ACC we can drive to most of our games

[@porterosbournejr.5083]

UGA Alum who just discovered your channel. Very good discussion the past 3 days. Respect for Baylor all the way back to the Singletary days of the early 80’s. I hope you guys land in a good situation for Bear Nation.

[@thedebatehitman]

“Dean” from Missouri is foolish to suggest that Oklahoma and Texas are “begging” to join the SEC. Aside from TAMU, the SEC wants this to happen because OU and Texas are football royalty who bring loads of value and prestige to a conference which boasts value and prestige already.

[@terrybrunk9190]

Mizzou doesn't want them either they know what will happen after they get in

[@thedebatehitman]

@@terrybrunk9190 I suspect that Mizzou can’t stomach the idea of OU and Texas being in the same conference because they hold a grudge, but they’ll almost certainly vote in favor of the move because 1) the writing’s on the wall as a done deal and 2) OU/Texas acquisition will yield a huge revenue boost that’s more than adequate to sweeten the taste of voting “yes.”

[@longhorns6221]

Dean from Mizzou thinks his aunt is hot. Begging please fool! Consider the source. Go back to your still Dean and drink more corn liquor 🤪

[@stevesexton8361]

Dean is mad about Texas whooping that ass in the bowl game a couple years ago. Idiot

[@pbholden1014]

Missouri was only asked after the SEC went after OU first. At the time Boren would only move if the SEC would take OSU also. SEC did not want OSU. So the choose to go after Missouri instead.

[@mafia41411]

Diehard KSU fan here. I ran across your show in my selfish panic a few days ago. Gentleman, you have a great show 👊🙌

[@anthonyizquierdo5467]

Like a bunch of others new to the channel. I’m a Tar Heels fan in NC but found the channel searching for news of the realignment. By far the best content I’ve found. Great job of not only give my news from a Baylor perspective but multiple other perspectives and the ramifications of things moving forward. Keep up the great work fellas.

[@BrianJohnson-kh7mg]

Just stumbled on this as a Texas fan. Like these guys, good conversation.

[@BJtheMountaineerguy]

You guys do a great job 💯 I'd love for the ACC to stay the way it is & bring in WVU & ND.. That's an awesome conference for both Football & Basketball

[@CLTrattler704]

I’d love that too, but I don’t trust ND to join a conference. The Power conferences will have to colude and freeze them out by not scheduling them to force them into a conference. Until that happens…we can keep praying to “Touchdown Jesus” for ND to join.

[@stripes497]

WOW!!!!! WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME!!!!! I am Very Very Happy to see Texas and Oklahoma leave for The SEC!!!! I am a Texas Tech University Alumnus. This is An Awesome Opportunity to go to The PAC 12 and become The PAC 16!!!! WE and The Other Texas Schools (TCU and Baylor) along with Oklahoma State can recruit in The Talent Rich West Coast Region of The United States. Just Think!!! WE have the opportunity to display Our Talents to The Los Angeles Market!!! It would be PHENOMENAL AND OUTSTANDING to go and compete with The PAC 12 Schools and be on display in The Los Angeles TV MARKET!!!!!! LET'S GO BABY!!!!

[@wesleyowens4089]

I hope they take Texas tech but the competition will be stiff byu Boise state UCF Cincinnati Houston and nd will be looking to join the conversation and since the big 12 is the one dissolving if any current power 5 teams don't stay that way it'll likely be big 12 schools

[@222valas]

@@wesleyowens4089 byu won't get in that ship already sailed. Same with boise state.

[@kenthefley2226]

Football culture is weak on the West coast. No one out there cares. Look east.

[@MJ-pk4gh]

Absolutely!

[@wejuggernautentertainmentl3156]

@@kenthefley2226 only care if we’re winning. SC will bring back the spirit

[@justsomemincedgarlic]

Glad that i stumbled across this channel, yall are doing good work.

[@philipbaldwin2078]

I stumbled upon your channel today while searching for more updates on the conference realignment situation. I’ve enjoyed you guys so far, but I think the gentleman to the left on my screen is the most logical of the three. Anyway, thanks guys, I enjoy your commentary.

[@DeeRock21]

I'm not even a Baylor or Texas guy but I've been watching you all day 🤣🤣

[@WarNvrChanges]

I’m an Alabama fan but I’ve always liked Baylor. I hope they find a good home and I wish them the best in the future.

[@ddanelle4729]

Big college football fan who stumbled upon this show up here in New York. Listened for first time while looking for info on the next round of college football "musical chairs" that's about to happen. Well done, gentlemen. Excellent show.

[@SoHappy1215]

Just found the show a few days ago because of this topic. Adding to the staple of YT sports show. High quality production here fellas.

[@mitersaw648]

Ohio state alumni here. Love the local show.

[@benfreet787]

This show is going to blow up while this realignment business is happening haha

[@artdawg11]

I'm so glad I found this show. I like the old man voice in the middle

[@thundergato84]

Tech & Oklahoma State - Pac 12 Baylor - AAC Kansas State & TCU - Mountain West Kansas & Iowa State - Big 10 West Virginia - ACC

[@papagrandegdt7293]

Hope pac 12 gets those two tbh and the acc should just join sec

[@tarheel7406]

That didn't age well

[@KentKnightsHighlight]

Texas wouldn’t be left with 2 D1 FBS teams. The other 6 are still D1 FBS football programs, they just wouldn’t be in a P5 conference.

[@thedominatior39]

I think the best option for some of these schools is to go independent and schedule P5 competition

[@eugeneburns8740]

I’m a die hard mountaineers fan and I really enjoy your show.

[@beaustange]

Like so many of the comments I’ve read, I just found you today. I’m a Big Sky grad (Univ. Of Montana) but a Big10/Pac10 fan. Good discussion and coverage. Keep it up.

[@dj012001]

Interesting and well informed. Thanks for a really good analysis.

[@Protonpackin]

The SEC who loves college football so much has destroyed it. Thanks guys

[@pnut3844able]

Yup

[@hectorsanchez1377]

OU and Texas: “so this is where the big boys play? Hear the adjective “play”. Well we ain’t here to play”

[@SNERFAN]

Play is a verb

[@noneofyourdamnbusiness3706]

Hector, take a real English class instead of that ESL class.

[@hectorsanchez1377]

@@noneofyourdamnbusiness3706 you’re a Vanderbilt fan who cares what you think.

[@noneofyourdamnbusiness3706]

@@hectorsanchez1377 okay dummy.

[@hectorsanchez1377]

@@noneofyourdamnbusiness3706 2 languages to your one. Ok dummy.

[@randyjago2625]

I told a friend 5 years ago that this was going to happen. Four 16 team divisions.

[@larrycox7169]

Big 12 will survive by taking in Houston, SMU, Tulsa and Cincy. That covers Dallas, Houston, Tulsa, and cincy recruiting areas for football recruiting and TV revenue. Competing for national titles in basketball, wrestling, and baseball both mens and women's. Football will be completive in time. Houston and Dallas alone are hot.

[@SNERFAN]

Big 12 won't survive all the teams are reaching out to other conferences scrambling and once the SEC is 16 teams the tier 1 Research (pac12) and AAU (BIG10) excuses are going to matter anymore their going to get the best teams available.. especially the PAC 12 they need to get more of a geographical footprint for their tv deals

[@bighomiemac3472]

ACC needs to move quickly on West Virginia and Cincinnati.

[@wesleyowens4089]

I think Cincinnati might try the big 10 but maybe ucf

[@TheCyberAthlete]

@@wesleyowens4089 ohio state will never let that happen. they enjoy being the only power conference team in ohio, and ohio state runs the big 10.

[@tarheel7406]

Why did you ever think the ACC adding WVU & CINCY would be a response to the TX/OK move? Would likely lower per team revenue.

[@calebward9284]

As a Husker fan I know we lost AAU status in 2011, I never heard about it being altered since. If so that’s news to me.

[@WBookout10]

You’re correct. They’re wrong. AAU still does not list Nebraska as a member on their website.

[@PoliticallyIncorrect90]

Correct. There was talk after they lost AAU status that they were going to get it back because the conference required it. However, I think the league dropped that requirement even though they still desire it for their member schools. There might have been shenanigans going on at the AAU. The President of the AAU was a former Texas Pres who was pissed that Neb was leaving the Big 12.

[@desertrat1111]

I heard they are close to getting back on it

[@terrantheblack6587]

Ask SMU, Houston, BYU, and Boise St if they want to join the big 12. The big 12 would ok, and still a competitive conference

[@thundergato84]

No it wouldn't.

[@glennlewman1377]

You are correct. They need to take the top teams of the AAU, MWC and BYU. This will keep the lower conferences behind them.

[@seanhuitt9849]

Unless Boise St. won a title or two the Big 12 won't have the relevance that the other power leagues would have.

[@terrantheblack6587]

@@seanhuitt9849 they will still get an automatic bid for the playoffs. Remember 12 teams now

[@tamuman93]

Great show guys. First time listener. #Subscribed

[@zachpangus7584]

As a fan of OU in excited for the steep competition. Want to see what we can do with a sec slate. Gonna be fun

[@darronwilliams4641]

Ark fans happy 2 have u. Wps

[@wolve58]

Just an FYI: Notre Dame is far from the largest Catholic school in the country, it's not even in the top 10. DePaul is the largest, with 14,500 undergrads. Notre dame is 11th, with 8,700. There are lots of Catholic schools in the U.S. that are bigger... Dayton St. Louis Georgetown St. John's Loyola Fordham Boston College It's a common misconception. Notre Dame just has name recognition.

[@williamhuffman2578]

Great show guys! I'm a WVU fan gnashing my teeth just like everyone else. Keep on top of it!!

[@leonjj39]

That's true no one want to be #65 . Good work guys. This with transfer portal make this year historic in NCAA

[@mohammedalmaamari4333]

I vote for Okst , KSU , Iowa st , Tex Tech : all these 4 schools to join Pac-12 to become Pac-16 !

[@hunterhisey4552]

Ok state is probably going to big ten

[@jeffy6903]

Pac 12 is all about large markets. Colorado and Utah adds were purely about adding Denver and SLC. I doubt Pac 12 is interested in traveling to Manhattan and Lubbock...

[@alexward9816]

Stumbled upon this show yesterday and thought it was great, what is y’all’s take on the rumors of the SEC talking to Clemson, FSU, Ohio State, and Michigan

[@airace69]

nobody is leaving the Big Ten for any other conference. The big ten is a money machine.

[@BJtheMountaineerguy]

Yeah they're not going anywhere lol

[@deadeye4520]

FSU is going SEC at their first possible opportunity. And the SEC will gladly say, "YES".

[@lordrayden3045]

@@airace69 Ypu are correct sir. The big 10/14 is the conference that isn’t going anywhere. I also think the pac 12 is staying around as the pac 14 or 16 but they aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. The other conferences? There will probably be one other….. I’m guessing the ACC in some form. Everything else will be something like the MWC, MAC etc.

[@tarheel7406]

@@deadeye4520 No longer sure about FSU being a lock for the SEC if feasible. From following this story, I would currently guess that FSU would only by the 4th option after UNC, CLEMSON & VATECH.

[@grantcasper3627]

BYU fan here. Thanks for taking some time to mention us. Our general feeling is we will leave Independence for a PAC 12 or reformed Big 12. The money we get from Independence is more than we’d make in any G5 but the potential Big 12 or PAC 12 money would likely be more with the added benefit of a conference championship as we move towards an expanded playoff.

[@dantesinfernopurgatory7826]

Nebraska was an AAU member at the time they joined the Big Ten, but was voted out of the AAU afterwards.

[@ghostface2556]

Why did they get voted out?

[@dantesinfernopurgatory7826]

@@ghostface2556 According to the AAU, Nebraska has ranked at the bottom of the AAU's members for more than a decade prior to the 2011 decision. Details here: www.espn.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/26078/nebraska-loses-aau-status

[@ghostface2556]

@@dantesinfernopurgatory7826 thank you

[@dantesinfernopurgatory7826]

@@ghostface2556 You're welcome.

[@bobbitogarcia684]

It’s not just the money it’s what the money BUYS - facilities (including stadiums), branding/marketing, coaches, recruits, etc.

[@PoliticallyIncorrect90]

Ia St had better be on the phone with the Big 10 already. During the last realignment a decade ago they almost ended up in the MAC.

[@evanmurray1184]

KU is a tier 1, to be a AAU you have to be a tier one

[@rexlibris99]

Beat me to it.

[@liberalmadness7248]

It wasn’t that long ago that Utah, BYU and TCU were in the MWC! One or two of these BIG 12 schools could wind up in the MWC!

[@lordrayden3045]

That’s where the leftovers are going …… those that don’t go to the big 10/14 (kansas and ISU) To the ACC (West Virginia) and if the pac 12 looks for anyone

[@glennlewman1377]

I do not think BYU will return to the MWC. They are doing very well as a Independent.

[@btetschner]

Thank you for the video.

[@mormonguy89]

As a BYU fan we for sure want in a P5 program, BYU AD Tom Holmoe has said as much, and it sounds like me might have know about this coming last month based off an interview he had. But he will be looking for one that makes since for us. Also sounds like someone needs to brush up on their knowledge of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints;) great show

[@agentz266]

Found yall this week, great job! The Mizzou Grad who said begging is ignorant for sure

[@nwra7211]

Yes, the Mizzerable fan was trying to make the point that his school was the elite school over Oklahoma and Texas. Be honest, no one gives a flip about Missoury. You exist to give the big boys a bye week.

[@agentz266]

@@nwra7211 exactly

[@gphillimo]

@@nwra7211 Mizzou is elite compared to bum ass Texas. The most underachieving school to consistently get top 10 recruiting classes ever

[@nwra7211]

@@gphillimo They both suck.

[@texasmarvin]

@@gphillimo nonsense

[@thekey1682]

No problem with OU and Texas leaving the Bigxii for the best conference in college football.....if you aint first.....your'e last.

[@TheWonderBreadAct]

Can't beat them, join them

[@terrybrunk9190]

@@TheWonderBreadAct not going to beat them by joining either

[@TheWonderBreadAct]

@@terrybrunk9190 I meant financially. Not necessarily on the gridiron.

[@machtschnell7452]

@@TheWonderBreadAct Texas has a winning record against SEC schools, one tie and one losing record.

[@dantekyle1775]

I worried about the rest of Big 12 but there's teams of BYU, SMU, Houston, and Tulsa. Air. Force and Cincinnati.

[@elijahshadow7385]

I’d have to say Memphis would be more attractive to the big 12 than Air Force or smu

[@dantekyle1775]

Memphis would be nice

[@westernciviccapital3075]

Most underrated division 1 properties: Rice Tulane Pitt UVA Georgia Tech

[@blackwind6317]

The guy with the hat seem overly emotional and speak on feeling rather than facts. For example Texas record. He won't analyze how Texas lost by single digits because of lack of player development and miss manage personnel which lead to Tom getting the boot. I mean I watch RJ Young a huge OU guy able to speak clear without the feeling. Who even said Texas coaches aren't developing talent. 2nd the amount of blue chips players on both Texas and ou is 60%. Does the guy even know were that put those teams in sec recruiting....let me help its not the bottom or the middle. As for the Aggies leaking the information attempting to block Texas...because of one thing....recruiting. ATM main pitch was we're in the sec and Texas and OU is not. Well that selling point is gone. Also half the coaches at Texas already coach and competed in the SEC. They know those teams. Both school are going do well in the sec. Many people got sour grapes....if stick around in the big 12 now you're foolish. Baylor better started reaching out asap. I think these fans are getting a hard reality check about their brand nationally. Some schools may not pick up.

[@matthewmasood]

Man I agree with you. He is annoying me

[@baja1988_Texas]

FBS Football: ------------- 1. Eliminate all existing conferences. 2. Restrict the FBS to 130 teams. 3. Establish 10 13-team sub-divisions: (I, II, III, . . . X). 4. Every year each team plays 1 game against the 12 other teams in the sub-division. 5. There must be 6 home games and 6 away games. No neutral-site games. (Ok, maybe one game per year per team at a neutral site, … maybe.) 6. At the end of the regular season: (a) Rank each team in the sub-division based their won-loss record. (b) There will have to be NFL-style tie-breaking procedures in place. (c) The top team in each sub-division becomes the “winner” of that sub-division. (d) Relegate the bottom 2-4 teams from each sub-division to the sub- division beneath it. (e) Promote the top 2-4 teams from each sub-division to the sub-division above it. 7. Bowl games and championship: (a) Select the top (8-10-12 ?) teams from sub-division I to participate in the NC playoff games. (b) Populate the other bowl games from the remaining teams in all 10 sub-divisions. (c) Conduct the bowl games and playoff games.

[@dependentfanatic9684]

I do feel bad about the rest of the B12. That being said, the B10 should try like heck to get USC and ORE from the P12 to keep up with the SEC. Then I will feel bad for the P12 too. If not I like Cincinnati, Iowa St., ND or Kansas (for basketball) in the B10

[@chrislb2308]

I just discovered your page since all this OU Texas talk.Was watching 247 sports with Josh Pate.Am a longtime SEC fan.I’ve been wondering since the 2012 conference shuffle when the next major shoe would drop.This will probably be the beginning of the real change to college football.It may cause loss of interest in the sport ultimately.I do see eventually there being 4 super conferences with 24-28 schools with 4 divisions each. The tradition is about gone.

[@jaysonwhite9990]

I'm a Mizzou fan I watch y'all's about ever chance I get. I can a sure you one thing Mizzou will be waiting to hit both OU and UT hard and I'm sure there is some out there saying Mizzou is not that good we'll get ready to be shocked. Anyway I pray for the best for the rest of the Big XII. God Bless

[@Clarence2Worley]

I can assure you, OU is not scared

[@mikesundblad2034]

Clemson alum and fan here. I get people being pissed at Texas because Texas has the power to do this. That said let's not pretend that if Baylor, Clemson, TCU, input whatever school you want into here, had the ability to wield the kinda power Texas does they wouldn't do it. If Baylor or Clemson could manage to create a LHN for their school, their fan base would be all about it. So IMO hats off to Texas, y'all know how to market yourselves.

[@jeffammon1351]

What has tamu done in football since joining the SEC?

[@rowdy9379]

Looking at setting up for a Playoff system, we need 4 Conferences. Divide the Country into 4 quarters, bam if your in a quarter, that's your Conference. No Recruiting outside of your Region, , that's raw and very regional, easy to follow and show the best in each Region.

[@westernciviccapital3075]

Another possibility. And it would make perfect sense by adding Miami to the SEC for 25... perfect sense that way... but maybe they go to 25 teams each. As such, all major athletic AAU schools north of the Mason Dixon line would be included. If they do, that's 5 divisions of 5: B1G25 Southern Pacific division: USC UCLA Cal Stanford Arizona B1G25 Lewis and Clark division: Oregon Washington Utah Colorado Nebraska B1G25 Great Plains division: Minnesota Iowa Kansas Wisconsin Illinois B1G25 Great Lakes division: Northwestern Purdue Indiana Michigan Michigan St. B1G25 Union division: Ohio St. Penn St. Pitt Maryland Rutgers

[@timmeyer9191]

The best thing for the remaining 8 is to try and create their own super conference to at least maintain a power conference image. Maybe they could poach from the Mountain West and AAC. If that was the case, my choices would be... Boise State BYU UNLV Air Force Memphis Cincinnati Houston SMU

[@ZeusAssassin]

What about UCF?

[@timmeyer9191]

@@ZeusAssassin I seriously considered UCF, but the more I thought about it, I just couldn't fit them in a regional pod like the others (if the remaining 8 stick together). The regional pods would help keep travel expenses down cuz who knows how lucrative the TV deal will be. Pod 1 West Virginia Cincinnati Central Michigan Northern Illinois Pod 2 Iowa State Kansas Kansas State Oklahoma State Pod 3 TCU Baylor Texas Tech Memphis, Houston, or SMU Pod 4 BYU Boise State UNLV or Nevada Air Force or Colorado State Even with the media markets covered, I'm not sure if it is enough to maintain the clout and television appeal with the OU and UT brands involved.

[@ZeusAssassin]

@@timmeyer9191 What do you think UCF should do then? The American should try to expand the conference as best they can. They are a team on the rise and shouldn't be left behind in this expansion race.

[@timmeyer9191]

@@ZeusAssassin like I said, everything is speculation at this point. I have always said the AAC has some teams on par with the teams of the Big12 and Pac12. The AAC needs to expand their brand, maybe a streaming service for their games. Something to get more eyes on their teams. They need to fill their stadiums. They need to collectively stop the pay for play games and get more home and home series with the big brands of college football. It's easier to win home games, and those wins will generate new fans for the teams. Having a good team is nice, but there are other things to consider as well. It is quite possible that the remaining 8 break up after 2025. Maybe the AAC gets some of those Big12 schools, but at that point are those schools making the conference better? If West Virginia leaves the Big 12, maybe the remaining 7 focus on UCF, Coastal Carolina, USF and another for that pod instead of the Midwest Cincinnati Central Michigan and Northern Illinois. No one knows.

[@godofglorykingsofhonormini6984]

As an Ohio State fan it would be fun to beat up Notre Dame on a regular basis . As a big ten fan , we have tried to get them to join I believe three times . We have heard for a couple of years that Virginia and North Carolina were going to join the big ten . Somebody at Notre Dame needs to see what is coming . Big ten commissioner Kevin Warren is a clueless buffoon , but they just hired Barry Alvarez as a consultant so there is hope . God bless , enjoyed the show .

[@redwine65]

if the big wanted to be big, they could get the pac 12, remaining big 12, nd, byu & boise state and make a 40 team conference. they took away NU's aau after we joined, cause they didn't like Nebraska sharing the University of Nebraska medical system with other in state colleges.

[@b1family33]

New subscriber Louisville Cardinal fan great show

[@JMAngilella]

Purdue alum here. The only school the B1G will take from BXII is AAU member & basketball blueblood KU. No way IAST or anyone else. The 16th - they will pray for ND to fully commit to a conference and return home to their Midwest historical rivalries (with new east coast members RU/NYC and MD to satisfy their Atlantic coast desires). That’s best case for the B1G imo since ACC is locked into a GOR until 2035.

[@jasonsraberg2560]

As a UCLA fan, I want Texas Tech in the Pac 12

[@liberalmadness7248]

Why?

[@jasonsraberg2560]

@@liberalmadness7248 they are a research School, really good at baseball, basketball, etc. overall it’s like adding another powerhouse

[@poodook]

What about Kansas State?

[@jasonsraberg2560]

@@poodook I was thinking Oklahoma State to join too but that might also work

[@poodook]

@@jasonsraberg2560 KState clowned UCLA in 2010 and 2017

[@richardsnyder842]

The ACC won't offer WVU membership anytime soon, if ever. West Virginia just lost a congressional seat, the demographics are terrible. The Mountaineers are a last resort prom date not a first choice. In other words WV will be there if the ACC decides to extend an invitation. Did I mention the academics in Morgantown? Not exactly what the ACC looks for in new members. It might happen, but it doesn't solve any issues for the ACC. For now keeping Clemson and Florida State in the fold are priority number one.

[@tarheel7406]

Been saying this since Day 1

[@stevenbauer4799]

then what scabs do the BIG add? BIG already got too many with ru, neb, and maryland. or is nd finally coming?

[@matthewcastleton2263]

It's not their religious belief that is keeping them out. BYU will never be a member of the Pac-12 because of their dogmatic refusal to play sports on Sundays. The NCAA Tournament has to make accommodations for BYU if they get a bid and the tournament committee seeds them differently so they don't have to ever play games on Sunday. That's a major problem with the Pac-12 because they have played a huge amount of their sports on Sundays for decades. They're not going to change the long held scheduling model that they've been using forever just to placate BYU. They don't need them because they already have the Salt Lake Metropolitan TV market with Utah being in the conference. If BYU was going to be invited to join that league, they would have been invited to join back in the 1980's and 1990's when they were still a great football program. When they placed their non-football sports in the West Coast Conference, which is a conference made up exclusively of private, religious universities, the league had to change their scheduling models so BYU wouldn't ever have to play any sport on Sunday. They changed their basketball conference tournament schedule to accommodate said refusal, which is why the WCC plays the odd Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Monday, Tuesday schedule they do. www.deseret.com/2016/6/25/20590989/never-on-sunday-byu-won-t-compete-on-the-sabbath-day-regardless-of-the-consequences#byu-offensive-tackle-eli-herring-76-prepares-to-block-a-notre-dame-player

[@johnlucius1665]

Paul Finebaum, has said that Oklahoma and Texas is not the end. Florida State, an original Charter Member of the SEC, Clemson, Miami and Georgia Tech another original Charter Member of the SEC could possibly be in the future plans of the SEC.

[@kaseydunaway1488]

I’m a Auburn fan and we are leaving for the ACC because we want to compete for National Championships

[@ronbrock738]

Sorry, unlikely to happen. Continue to be skulldragged in the SEC. Notre Dame is already a member. Preseason has 4 ACC teams in top 14. And 7 SEC teams in top 25 ,none named Auburn. Maybe in your ACC fantasy , Auburn gets better.

[@dsa1569]

😂😂😂😂

[@kaseydunaway1488]

@@ronbrock738 we do get better in the acc

[@desertrat1111]

You would be giving up a lot of money

[@kaseydunaway1488]

@@desertrat1111 we would win more

[@jasonjekyll8576]

Move Bama and Auburn into the East, since they need more power anyway. Then we can put OU and Texas in the West

[@waynewilliams5353]

LSU fan or just a Texas or OU fan hoping to avoid Bama?

[@jasonjekyll8576]

@@waynewilliams5353 you're projecting. The merger is happening, and the East is weak anyway. So the format I suggested makes sense

[@jasonjekyll8576]

@@waynewilliams5353 also, I'm neither of those things. That's why you don't project and assume ;)

[@caleb88k]

Ill be honest, after spending all day watching college football games my biggest guilty pleasure is watching BYU football at 10pm. lol

[@seanfaber6221]

We do want note dame in acc conference with Clemson and Boston college do you agree with me on that

[@professornumnutz2334]

Kansas Iowa state Pitt and ND would be the ideal 4 next big ten teams. Two in the west two in the east

[@412emilio]

Support from a Pitt fan. Hope Baylor lands somewhere good like we did when the Big East died

[@jonboxleitner7354]

The ACC GOR keeps all the teams there. Including UNC. The B1G might cherry pick the Pac12 for the AAU schools/football powers. Great show.

[@patriottex4813]

The Big 10 has always had an interest in warm weather sites. UNC makes sense. Remember they talked to Missouri before they took Nebraska.

[@marcusaurelius7604]

If I am the AAC I am trying real hard to get every left over relevant team to join. If you can get a league of 20+ decent teams in both BBall and Football, even if none of them are elite, then you have a shot to at least get one spot in a 12 team playoff. So lets say, Oklahoma St and Texas Tech leaves for the PAC, and Kansas and Iowa St move to the Big 10, WV heads to the ACC. If the left over Big 12 teams merge with the AAC what you would get is- Baylor, TCU, Kansas St, Cincinnati, Tulsa, Memphis, UCF, SMU, Houston, Navy, Tulane, East Carolina, Temple, South Florida so 14 teams. There are other teams of stature out there in other conferences like the Mountain West who they could headhunt, namely Boise St, Nevada, San Diego St, Hawaii, Fresno St, Air Force, Colorado St, BYU, App ST, Marshall, Florida Atlantic, Florida International, Louisiana Tech, Southern Miss, and a few others. If you are a team in the AAC, Mountain West, or Conference USA, this is your only shot to stay relevant. Build your own Super conference with 22-24 teams.

[@ssgus3682]

That is lot of schools to share revenue with. A 16 team AAC would be close to the old WAC than a 16 team SEC. Now if I am the AAC I am very interested in TCU and another school from the Big 12

[@cadbane7780]

Ohio State, Michigan, Clemson, North Carolina to SEC. Leave NCAA over NIL lack of governance

[@SNERFAN]

Ya right

[@cadbane7780]

@@SNERFAN how about SEC takes 1 of the 4 conference spots and 4 of the 8 at large spots for the cfp until then

[@purpleivory2]

It'll never happen but if Notre Dame finally joined the ACC for football and brought Penn State along with them, semi-seismic perhaps?

[@strck0974]

What?

[@CLTrattler704]

I doubt that would happen but I’d love it if it did. As a Miami fan, I love playing vs both those teams. Those were good battles amongst independent schools years ago. If only ND and Penn State had joined the Big East back in the day.

[@tarheel7406]

I'm currently far more doubtful of success than at some points during this story, but some have claimed reports of talks between the ACC, ESPN, ND & PSU to explore the possibility.

[@Jake_from_State_Farm]

American Conference is now stronger than the B12. If I am Baylor and TCU, I go there and make it the new P5

[@yfna1]

These regional conferences are the past.. Unless you have value, in other words, you put butts in seats, you are on the outside or will be soon.

[@robertl5606]

It’s forgotten, but USC and Stanford started out as private Christian schools. I think Baylor and TCU would fit in well into the PAC 12 with their well rounded athletic programs. Plus, everyone on the West Coast views both as great schools academically.

[@thedebatehitman]

USC and Stanford are private but not religious. That’s the difference.

[@robertl5606]

@@thedebatehitman it’s hard to tell these days, but their roots are. USC roots are tied to the Methodist church. And Stanford has a church on campus.

[@thedebatehitman]

@@robertl5606 The fact that a non-denominational church was built on the Stanford campus in 1903 doesn’t therefore mean that Stanford is a religious institution, nor does USC’s origins, especially since it became a secular university in 1957. This is contrasted by Baylor’s and TCU’s religious affiliations.

[@robertl5606]

@@thedebatehitman oh yea forsho, it’s different. But that’s why I said “roots”. But when you are on campus you can still feel their conservative nature at times. As crazy as that sounds. Point being, I can see Baylor and TCU fitting in. Especially given those 2 teams Alamo Bowl history with the PAC12 teams.

[@matthewcastleton2263]

@@robertl5606 However, the other thing that needs to be mentioned is that Baylor is far more religiously affiliated than TCU is. TCU is not governed in the slightest by any religious organization. They're simply loosely affiliated with the Disciples of Christ. They're literally a secular university in all but name.

[@kirkmoody6109]

Inside scoope for why jimbo says" he will kick nick Sabans ass" because he has the bigger portion of Texas recruiting than what UT has but if UT joins the conference then them having sec recruiting and ATM not having an sec title after ten years they will lose their recruiting stronghold of Texas to UT who could probably give them a run for their money now as is and Oklahoma also has a massive Texas recruiting foothold and that's not gonna change it'll probably just grow with the SEC brand behind them so ATM will more than likely become irrelevant in the SEC with Texas joint and bringing the redheaded step child, Oklahoma with them who I think in their first SEC season will win the SEC and Iowa state is going to probably join the big ten and join big brother Iowa giving a lot of value because their rivalry is pretty big and both schools are AAU and competitive in wrestling and basketball

[@ssgus3682]

The AAC Will become clearly better than the MWC. I don't see every remaining BIG 12 School getting a lifeline.

[@liberalmadness7248]

You don’t think the MWC could possibly end up with a couple of these Big 12 teams? TCU, Utah, and BYU were in the MWC not too long ago.

[@ssgus3682]

@@liberalmadness7248 I believe the MWC very well ends up with one of them. Especially BYU

[@worldhistory3928]

Nebraska is not a member of the AAU. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Universities

[@mattsellers4298]

I believe the BIG XII’s TV deal expire after 2025. I believe the other 8 teams should stay put until 2025. ACC, BIG 10, & PAC 12 will still have openings. You go get I believe 6 teams given them 14 teams. BYU San Diego State Boise State UCF Houston Cincinnati I believe this would help the BIG XII and maybe that can keep them afloat.

[@glennlewman1377]

Good idea, this will keep the conferences behind them (AAC,MWC) from catching up

[@stevenvargo2440]

It was inevitable that the Big 12 would dissolve. Iowa State and Kansas need to go to the Big 10; Oklahoma State and Texas Tech need to go to the Pac 12; West Virginia and Kansas State need to join the ACC; Baylor and TCU need to go Independent since they're private religious schools. And there you go! 4 Power Conferences.

[@tarheel7406]

Didn't age well

[@someperson3883]

Baylor, Iowa St, TCU, and Texas Tech to PAC-12. Kansas and Notre Dame to ACC. Oklahoma St and Kansas St to Big 10. West Virginia to American.

[@foxcreekhops2825]

Kansas will never be in the ACC. Not even a regional connection. Great basketball but football is an anchor.

[@CCOS1214]

The big 12 should hold tight at 8 teams hold Oklahoma and Texas accountable for the exit money.. go poach USC, Oregon, Washington and Utah from the pac 12 add byu, Boise, Cincinnati and ucf from the group of 5..pull this off you have a p5 conference

[@SNERFAN]

None of the PAC 12 teams are gonna be jumping ship to join the big 12... The big 12 teams will join the PAC 12 or be picked off one by one till the remaining schools join G5 team

[@wejuggernautentertainmentl3156]

Wishful thinking

[@Gipper3670]

With so many of these young men going to the NFL each year, why not just set college up like the NFL

[@NorCalTrojanman91]

Excellent program. Like so many others I stumbled upon your program and love it. I'm a Trojan Pac12 guy that enjoys Baylor and TCU football. I would welcome Texas Tech, Baylor and TCU into the PAC. I keep hearing this negativity about the PAC and BIG not liking religious schools. Where is the proof of this? The BYU thing is about not playing games on Sunday in other sports it is not anti religious. If they bent on that rule the PAC would seriously consider them.

[@tarheel7406]

Interesting to read your comment now after this story unfolded. Apparently USC effectively blocked the PAC from adding any of the BIG12 remainders and then decided to leave.

[@bigfellamike1913]

Should be the top 66 teams. 2 conferences, 3 divisions in each conference, 12 teams each divison. 11 game schedule. The top two from each division move one, etc, etc...

[@John-pf5nt]

U watch the NFL

[@joshgrothues7871]

Smu, rice, Houston are still D1, they're still FBS as well. They just aren't in a corrupt 5 conference.

[@CassThaProphet]

Point is that they were alot bigger deal 30 years ago

[@wesleyowens4089]

Also UTSA and UTEP

[@wesleyowens4089]

And North Texas

[@drewmaleta1515]

College football should introduce a promotion and relegation system

[@TheCyberAthlete]

agreed

[@machtschnell7452]

The Misery guy needs to check the 2017 Texas Bowl. Misery was favored but Texas whipped them good.

[@dmassie4373]

Has it occurred to anyone that it benefits all the other power 5 conferences if there are only 2 Texas teams. There is more than one motive to eliminate the Big 12 from power 5. I just can’t imagine we let that happen though.

[@greatray6262]

The Big 8 Conference should have never merged with the SWC and those Texas schools. Because of it's greed the University of Texas has managed to cause the downfall o both of those conferences. They forced of Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, and Texas A&M because they wanted their own TV network and wanted a bigger piece of the pie than the other member schools.