BREAKING NEWS: Lions Pay Jared Goff Massive Contract Extension

[@WeAretheMatrix31]

He's top 5 statistically over the last 24 months. What more do we want from him when you say you expect more?

[@PrideofDetroit]

Continued growth, consistent performance week-to-week, and ultimately a championship in the coming years. QBs that get paid like he is (Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, etc) are not only viewed by statistics but on whether or not they make it to the big dance

[@sammierogers489]

A Super Bowl if we are paying him like this which stunts the growth a little.

[@WeAretheMatrix31]

@@sammierogers489 OK. Andif you opted NOT to pay him who was going to be available in free agency that would have been an equal player for less money, or what better player would we have been able to afford?

[@WeAretheMatrix31]

@@PrideofDetroit Josh Allen, Dakota Prescot, Justin Herbert, Kyle Murray all signed bigger deals in relative comparison and they are none of the things you just stated. Goff is already proven having been to a superbowl so why is everyone being so harsh. Though I am agreeing with you I also expect 1 within this contract. But look at Aaron Rodgers how much has he made NOT to win the big one?

[@sammierogers489]

We drafted a player for lesser money. I personally would’ve waited to see how this season turned out or gave a 2-3 year extension for $40-$45 million while seeing exactly what I got in the 3rd round heisman candidate (prior to injury) I drafted.

[@keithbattle2706]

Just to add, the usual traps that teams get in with paying QBs is that they usually start with QBs on a rookie salary scale and fill in the gaps on their team with trades/extensions/FAs and not with other draft picks. So when the QB salary jumps substantially, it usually sacrifices one of the FAs that helped turn their team around. The Lions have always been working with Goff at a high cap number and are not relying on FAs to build their team. Fun fact...the Lions are only 1 of 2 franchises (Saints) that have never had a full-time QB starter on a rookie wage scale deal (since 2011). Great content guys! Keep it up!

[@MarkLeBay]

Even in 2021, a season where Goff struggled and at times looked completely lost on the field ( maybe that had to do with a receiving group that turned-over just before the first game? A WR group that was worst in the league? Or maybe switching the OC mid season? Or an OL that was a revolving door of injuries), but whatever the cause, Goff still had a better passer rating at the end of that season than Stafford’s career average with the Lions.

[@ryankeys8714]

Great pod! Super excited about this contract and I have complete faith in Jared living up to every penny. Like you guys said, he definitely could’ve asked for more. Bring me September ASAP!!

[@franknatsuhara7951]

I am a big Rams Fan, but always was a Goff fan. Don't get me wrong, I am so happy we were able to win the Super Bowl with Matthew Stafford, I've always been rooting for Jared Goff. I truly believed he was going to excel eventually, he is a tough minded individual. He proved that with after his rookie season with Jeff Fisher. But, more importantly he is a good dude. All his teammates really liked him on the Rams. When the Rams won the Super Bowl he congratulated everyone including McVay who kicked him to the curb. He is a class act, and could not be happier to see him get this success.

[@baileypb1790]

Let’s gooo! Lions looking great through 2028 💙🦁

[@elarsh24]

212 is a number I see all of the time, ever since Wayne Gretzky broke the 200-point plateau with 212 points in the 81/82 season. I have no problem with Goff's contract now that it's signed, and hopefully, 212 is a good sign as well.

[@davidculver9501]

Great context guys thank you

[@PrideofDetroit]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@user-yg5yw9dq6p]

Well done Mr. Holmes and the whole Lions organization. Let’s wait until all the details come out, but the real $$$ amount and how it is distributed may look a lot different than the number being thrown around now.

[@WeAretheMatrix31]

Agreed. People also aren't consider all the QBs on Expiring deals that will get bigger deals that Goff. When the year is done fans will realize they have a top 5 player probably getting top 5 - 10 money

[@matthewwichtner2935]

They had to pay him. Sooner or later. Later meant money was going to be higher. They're good with what the head had to do. I'm not a goff hater, nor lover. Never expected a whole lot from him, but he just just keeps getting it done. Time and time again. I hope he keeps advancing. Seems he has every year since coming here. Just keep getting it done Jared!! Please!!!! 🙏

[@flyinhawaiian9174]

A video (or two) about the cap would be appreciated! As far as Goff's contract goes, I know he earned it and it's the cost of doing business; but I can't help thinking what a crappy situation it is for Hooker who will have no chance to play if Goff stays healthy and what a crappy situation it will be for the Lions if he gets injured.

[@StephenHunt-zs2ui]

I can’t imagine that he’s going to be happy about this arrangement. He’s gotta be chomping at the bit.

[@PrideofDetroit]

He’ll get his opportunity in due time

[@JonnyMac313]

Love the pod (pssss men don’t receive FLOWERS) Good show guys - Goff “manages” this system at a superb level. He’s tougher than he gets credit for and is dealing with pressure better every year. Great point perspective is critical, 53 yo JonnyMac says “Trust Holmes”

[@robertdow2212]

Question for the doubters...When was the last time the Lions resigned their quarterback that had a winning record for the team, a division title, and two playoff wins? Pay the man.

[@PrideofDetroit]

Preach!

[@JonnyMac313]

Cap review - large & small contracts would be great. I was bummed, hoping for a hometown discount but … trust Holmes

[@stephenwilliams1199]

Yahoo, we got our guy! Awesome!

[@SoLogy]

17:18 you list 4 QB's that Goff is getting paid like and he's taken his team farther than any of them (well tied with Joe Burrow.) Did you know Justin Herbert has as many playoff wins as Zach Wilson? But hey, they're only one behind Lemar.

[@PrideofDetroit]

You’re right and that’s the point we were trying to make. Goff 100% deserves this contract because unlike those guys we listed he’s actually accomplished things on the field. He’s earned this contract while guys like Herbert and Watson have been paid based on their youth and projected upside which is a much riskier gamble

[@jean-paulmorrison2955]

As a funny side note, overall, 97.1 was generally in favour of the deal.

[@SoLogy]

Goff turned around a terrible Cal team in 3 years. He took a terrible Rams team to the Superbowl in 3 years. He took a terrible Lions team to the NFC championship in three years. Trevor Lawrence has nice hair...sign him.

[@PrideofDetroit]

Trevor Lawerence has majestic hair 😂

[@StephenHunt-zs2ui]

Great segment guys, I’m in agreement that the Goff contract seems excessive but that these contracts can not be viewed in a vacuum. Just look at it in the context of the next 5 elite QB contracts. My issue now moves to what do the Lions now do with Hendon Hooker. Will they need to start shopping him? He’ll probably take a shit ton of snaps in the preseason but as we know it’s hard to extrapolate to the regular season. Because of his advanced qage already how do you think Holmes wants to deal with this?

[@PrideofDetroit]

I think the Lions are still in a good place with Hooker. You have the next 3-4 years of pure development and evaluation of a guy who has all the tools. If by year 3 you’ve seen enough to think you can move on from Goff and pass the torch you do that. If not, you go into year 4 with a solid veteran QB and probably look to get aggressive to find another young option to groom for a year behind Goff. I feel like this is still a win-win situation for the Lions and Hooker

[@marktristanviguri7308]

Dak, Daniels, Murray, Cousin all stink. Patrick Mahomes has never beaten Goff. Brady and Rodgers only did it once and Goff played w/a broken hand vs. Aaron. Lions are going to have more $$$ with his new contract this year.

[@marktristanviguri7308]

Of course Goff was getting over $50 MIL and yes at least a 4 year deal. Hate to say I TOLD YOU SO. SOLs are the silliest.

[@PrideofDetroit]

Not as silly as people still using SOL these days 😂

[@MarkLeBay]

It’s a myth that Goff can’t play without elite pass blocking. At the end of the 2022 season, PFF ranked the Lions’ OL at #21 for Pass blocking, and #9 for run blocking (the OL was injury riddled in 2022) and after Hockinson was traded at mid-season, the only noteworthy pass catcher Goff had to throw to was Amon Ra. Goff has led a top 3 offense two years in a row. No other QB has done that, and Goff has done so with less talent around him than the other top producing offenses. Goff is elite.

[@flyinhawaiian9174]

@MarkLeBay Two years in a row in which the OC actively worked with Goff to design the offense around what Goff does well. That is not the norm in the league. Goff is not very good in deep pass accuracy and is completely lacking in scramble ability. He's good, hopefully good enough, but he's not great.

[@MarkLeBay]

@@flyinhawaiian9174Every team in the league tailor’s its offense to the strengths and weaknesses of the QB - and honestly I think you have the narrative wrong. Jarod Goff and Dan Campbell took Ben Johnson, a young inexperienced TE coach, and tutored him. Goff and Campbell and Johnson worked together to build an elite offense together. Campbell continued to call plays for half the 2022 season and Goff is as much the author of this offense as Ben Johnson. Goff’s strengths are clearly much greater than his weaknesses, or else he would not be the only QB in the league to lead a top 3 offense two years in a row. Again, go back to the facts on the field. In 2022, Goff led the #3 offense in the league with less talent around him, and a worse offensive line, than all the other top producing offenses in the league. Then he did it again the next year. That’s not only great, that’s elite. And Goff is the first QB in NFL history to take two different teams from the basement of the league to a Conference Championship game in just three seasons.

[@flyinhawaiian9174]

@@MarkLeBay I don't know where you got your information from, but Goff absolutely did NOT tutor Johnson. Campbell and Johnson and Brunell tutored Goff in reading defenses which is not an ability he had prior to coming to Detroit. The Rams did not ask him or coach him to do that. Neither did they build their offense around him. It was McVay's way or the highway.

[@MarkLeBay]

@@flyinhawaiian9174 Ben Johnson learned from Goff, and Goff has learned from Ben. But don’t kid yourself - this is as much Goff’s offense as it is Ben’s.

[@flyinhawaiian9174]

@@MarkLeBay And it's not because he doubts his own coaching ability. Any coach on the staff, but especially the HC and coordinators, will get mad praise once the Lions win the Super Bowl. He wants to help make history.

[@marktristanviguri7308]

Brad Holmes homes is the best GM in the NFL, his old boss Les Snead isn't bad either.

[@markp8581]

How is he not ELITE

[@marktristanviguri7308]

Jared Goff has ALWAYS been good. He ALWAYS wins 9+ games every year. Rams were cutting the 3 large contracts Cooks, Gurley, Goff and putting their money on defense with AD and Ramsey. Jared Goff took Rams deep into the playoffs with a broken throwing hand his last year in LA. Lions suck not Goff who handed them the Super Bowl last year with a lead 15 minutes away only to have the entire team (cept Rodriguez) and the coaching staff choke it away. Jared Goff is an elite QB the best in the NFC. It's not close. Don't want to hear about the other loser NFC QB's like Daniels.

[@darrylgulp5878]

The gut punches have stopped Tori

[@peterz22thomas5]

Goff is a better QB than Josh Allen.

[@marktristanviguri7308]

Bungles Joe Borrow was a one season wonder. Total joke he's the highest paid QB 😆😅🤣Trevor and Tua stink. Throw Allen and Herbert in there too. None of them can win anything. Stafford barely made it out of the loser bunch. Tua is #1 on the NFL Deadpool. Who's going to get $60 MIL is the real question.

[@livecensored]

Like him, but don't like it. I think too much of his production is tied to Ben J. Ben leaves and I'm not sure.

[@PrideofDetroit]

That could be true but all we know right now is that Goff has continued to play at a high level the last few years and that had to be rewarded with this kind of contract

[@cdane63]

Paying Goff $53 million a year for 4 years was the first major blunder by Holmes. Let Hooker show you what he is able to do before throwing him away or having him rot on the bench. That salary was not a hometown discount so you could have paid that to Goff mid-season, damn it. Which player in the future will walk since we won't be able to pay him?

[@MarkLeBay]

You haven’t seen what Hooker can do, but Holmes has. Maybe he knows something you don’t? Goff has already shown in 2022 he can lead a top 3 offense with relatively cheap WRs, TEs, and RBs - so, maybe Jamo will be the one who walks. Goff, LaPorta, and Gibbs are more than enough for the next three years, and I suspect Goff’s contract will be a bargain in four and five years from now.

[@brokentubing]

I’m sorry that making it to the playoffs bothers you so much! Maybe another professional team in Detroit will make you happier

[@flyinhawaiian9174]

@MarkLeBay Holmes, like the rest of us, saw what Hooker did in college. He liked him enough to draft him injured in the 3rd round. No one has seen what Hooker can do in the NFL. A little throwing at practice doesn't mean zilch other than we know he has a strong arm. What are you afraid of?

[@SoLogy]

I read your comment and I picture you with a pencil behind your ear while holding a baseball bat. Am I right?

[@user-yp2qy2us3j]

It’s not 53/yr it’s actually more like 47/yr unless he’s one of the best quarterbacks in the league all four years and wins four Superbowls. We got a discount considering Kurt Cousins got at least 50/yr for two years