Breaking News: Topps threatens massive penalties for direct accounts for CT scanning.

[@BinSimmons]

Topps "how dare anyone ensures the hot boxes get to specific people but us"

[@BringingTheHeat-VBC]

whatsa hot box? Is it a hanger or a banger?

[@BinSimmons]

@BringingTheHeat-VBC anything above 35°C/95°F in my opinion.

[@BringingTheHeat-VBC]

@@BinSimmons 😃

[@BinSimmons]

@BringingTheHeat-VBC but in all serious is your not aware of that term is one of the names people in the hobby use to describe a box that is a lot better than your average box. Now that could mean it has multiple autos instead of 1, lots of numbered card, if its a new product it could have low #/ parallels of top rookies etc... pretty much. So yeah if you ever hear anyone talking about hot box's relating to cards you now know they're either talking about a really great box of cards or backyard breaks.

[@ericsakamoto5657]

They can’t enforce it and will never know if anyone scans a box. So it’s all fluff and a bunch of nothing

[@grim7747]

Exactly. I never understood why companies believe some words in a terms of service agreement makes everything better. PSA: "We won't grade cards with foreign substances." Topps: "We will punish any direct accounts that knowingly use CT scanners or any other such device." Well, damn, I feel so much better now.

[@JeffreyBeckerPhotographs]

I disagree. All it takes is a couple employees with loose lips and Topps can lay the hammer. Topps can ban anyone they want under suspicion. It’s not like stores have a legal right to the boxes.

[@stevem9203]

100% correct. This is all on them. Instead of all this stuff that they have no way to prove they should be making their boxes resistant to scanning. This is all smoke.

[@katiekrasky2416]

Memories are short - in the world today it seems like nothing sticks and we all know that the right person with the right social media presence would be able to weather the storm. Kudos to this step by Topps to realize that the interests of collectors are aligned with their own and to put in declarative statements with some weight.

[@flawlesssportscardsandcomics]

Pokémon just released a statement stating any one who weighs there packs will go straight to jail

[@michaelroot1960]

😂

[@waxtrashtreasures]

Officer Jenny can lock me up

[@davidspahr3393]

Just a question, if someone buys a box of topps and takes it home and CT scan it. They realize the box doesn’t have any hits in it and they decide to sell it on EBay, can Topps go after that person if it’s been proven he did such a thing? I would think CT scanning isn’t against the law on anything you own.

[@Hoosierdaddyjones812]

The correct answer would be no. Imo

[@ryanra44]

Not an Individual bc the person didn’t sign this agreement

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

No

[@richardstarr4932]

You can possibly be sued by whoever you sell it to, but hard to prove.

[@cvg9142]

So is this someone that has one in their garage at home or is it something where someone asks a clinician or worker at one of the little MRI/CT scan clinics? Is that where they scan them? I guess I'm just commenting without having watched yet I wonder, the only people that have access that I know of are people that work at those clinics. They could likely do it when you might be scanning 100 boxes then it's a big deal. There have been shady interests in baseball cards with fakes and fake grades and wax/cello issues abound. Back in the day the thing they would do was buy 20 boxes of 89 upper deck and open one box at a time until they got the Griffey then they would take the rest of the packs and make full boxes out of them. So it ended up you pay a premium for the hope and assumption that you may get the card you want. Then you open an entire box of upper deck and don't get a single Griffey. Then you hear that story and it makes sense. Upper deck made the foil pack so that was supposed to stop the open and reseal. So that's how they beat that one and now this. This type of negative news just reminds me of some of the shady stuff from the past and likely throws a damper on this trend.

[@kylejohnson7777]

I remember in 93 when I saw a kid taking a handheld measuring device to measure the thickness of packs to determine if there was a “special “ card in a pack 😅

[@alessandrorossi1294]

That’s nice, though topps direct stuff was never really a concern, the big concern is on the secondary market.

[@chriskrumenauer3126]

They are like PSA with their ban on Kurt’s. A nothing burger unless the shops out themselves 😂

[@jrgeb99]

This will be almost impossible to enforce.

[@alessandrorossi1294]

It’s interesting how they mention weight scales. AFAIK it’s common in the Pokémon secondary market to actually price heavy packs at a premium

[@waxtrashtreasures]

Common in sports cards too - that's how sellers can be sure of hit packs.

[@Golden_Domers]

Could they develop a sticker in box or material on card that could change if CT scanned? Almost like a water mark stickers that are in phones? I dont knownif that is possible but it would be a quick fix if it was.

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

I think that’s the “easy fix”

[@JohnZBaeZ]

Maybe those alarm beeping tags that's magnetically sensitive

[@moregunzthanroses281]

Sales must be declining at Topps

[@brute_nm]

I wonder if they'll add some material to packs that changes color when exposed to x-rays

[@mangobango6970]

Its just like psa saying you cant alter your cards with chemicals, yet they cant detect it, this is exactly the same. Its a good thought but means nothing. Just a CYA for future legal possibilities.

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

But just like PSA if they find out you are in big trouble.

[@mangobango6970]

@NEO_Cards_Comics true

[@DanWalls-q4f]

@@NEO_Cards_Comicswell don't be an idiot and post it on social media, that is the only way to get caught ...by snitching on yourself

[@DanWalls-q4f]

Same as PSA telling us they own the plastic for our graded cards 😂😂😂

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

Yet people do it all the time

[@TheCardDeal]

Here is one...what about allocation for breakers? Stores allocation is being cut all the time...unless you break in shop and are on Fanatics. 20 and 30 year stores with 3 to 5 case allocation now getting 1 to 2 cases of new releases. 1. How are they gonna catch you? 2. How are they gonna check stores? 3. How are they gonna check the homes of breakers? When will the hobby be able to question Topps? No softball on a tee questions, just answer questions, give us the straight dope! No bs, no fluff, no rhetorical bs. That is what collectors would want to know. I do love the thinner card stock same as base for hits so those scummy d-bags can't weigh mega boxes of Bowman, Topps LogoFractor etc. WE HAVE QUESTIONS TOPPS...HOW IN THE HELL ARE YOU GONNA CHECK THIS?

[@Steussie]

They are probably working on that next step of detection. Maybe the seal on the box changes color if scanned. This is a good first step though.

[@TheCardDeal]

@Steussie That would be a great idea. Remember them color changing Hot Wheels? Loved those things, 30 some years later there has to be a film or wrapping to the box that could change like you said once scanned. Always combating the scumbaggery in the hobby

[@JoeKyser]

I hope that adding that didnt really change anything. I mean they let kt fly before and they dont now?

[@MikelineTV]

Topps Police, you're on camera. I want all my Topps cards back, lol!

[@MPsCards]

It’s a solid first step.

[@JeffreyBeckerPhotographs]

The most intriguing thing about the comment thread on this video are that the same people complaining that Topps/Fanatics need to do something to curb CT scanning are the same people complaining that Topps is now enforcing rules wrapped around it. Some people just love to complain, and complain. Topps is doing what they can to discourage scanning, and the same people who roll their eyes that nothing gets done, now roll their eyes when something is being done. :)

[@michaelroot1960]

Not gonna stop it.

[@timotheegoulet1511]

How much are these scanning servers cost. Last I saw they were asking some ridiculous amount which makes the whole point of scanning in the first place not worth it.

[@greatdolomite2297]

The Topps town hall on Tuesday has a part if you sold to two stations on Dealernet, you could lose your account

[@svenpatrick1637]

lol employees of LCS now have something over the owner if they do this scanning! Blackmail anyone lol

[@johnnypopsicle]

Not with at will states

[@KeyKiller74]

Most bad actors who involve themselves into CT scanning send their boxes or cases to places who runs a CT scanning business. After finding nothing in them gets put up for sale at ebay. What Topps needs to do is find a way to get wrappers that can block out CT scanning. BTW what's our friends over Panini doing about it?

[@Etblackbeard]

Can Fanatics buy the customer lists from the CT scanning companies?

[@chadguell9193]

Almost as scary as card cleaning....unless the shop is an idiot and do it on camera it will continue

[@AbelinVegas]

It’s a policy for their direct sellers, but a customer can buy a case, CT Scan it, and open the box with the big hit, then sell the other boxes back to a store. Steelcity, Blowout advertise the boxes they buy, then resell, but the big hits are no longer accessible. In other words, it does not prevent it.

[@Wolf-rc1tf]

I bought 2 cases from A major distributor of 2022 Topps update. I spent 3k to only receive crappy hits. I wonder where all the good hits are located?

[@Wolf-rc1tf]

I don’t want to name any names yet because I don’t know for sure. If they do happen to get caught, the customer should receive compensation.

[@kly1994]

I’m sure there are already snitches reporting this stuff to topps and wouldn’t be surprised if topps already are keeping an eye on a shop or two.

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

💯

[@jamestaylorjr2521]

it's just words, and how do we/they know what's been scanned or weighed other than an invoice or video evidence of it they can't go off on Larry, who is mad at Cliff and reports it to the topps hotline. I say the easiest fix is to make their product better to where you got 1/2 or 3/4 of a case with good stuff instead on one hot box in a case. Also how hard is it to make all the packs to weigh the same or put fancy fake slightly heavier cards in boxes to make people think they got something. i know it's probably part of there packaging process to help save time and money but do better or do it by hand.

[@moregunzthanroses281]

Instead of putting it on shops and breakers not to scan boxes, why don’t they come up with a way to stop it 🤔 everyone knows it has something to do with foiling and stamping

[@buddyc8963]

Topps should concentrate on quality control instead of CT scanning.

[@WestTexas_Cars_Cards]

This is the most laughable thing Topps has ever put out. Put in prevention methods and not lip service

[@wonderworldcomics2020]

Sounds like fanatics/topps is suspicious of a few people and wants the right to root out all of the rats with a few set ups to confirm it.

[@CommercialFreeShow]

Cheers 🍻

[@lgc_opc959]

This is low hanging fruit and an easy step for Topps to threaten this. Tell us that you are working tirelessly on new technology to eliminate the effectiveness of any scanning technology.

[@JohnZBaeZ]

Topps should take a note and allready mark certain people who said they did and what others said about those individuals and groups. They would most likely sell the boxes that don't have anything. Would also consider those individuals that might use bots to buy out all of the inventories in Topps website and other corporation websites and limit their buys to a handful

[@JohnFrye-qv8hp]

God I miss Lenny Brisco.....

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

The BEST

[@nightrain19986]

You can CT scan the stuff I buy all you like! lol

[@xmrxbaxterx6075]

Not enforceable lol, just avoid individual resellers on eBay/internet and buy directly from Topps or from an LCS who are reputable, the less hits ppl get the less ppl buy so LCS are really obligated to not CT Scan inventory.

[@dom19945]

They should focus on trying to design better looking cards.

[@FranciscoRodriguez-bl3ii]

How about Topps worry less about others and worry about their trash quality control.... selling consumer scratched, dented, off center etc....trash at premium prices

[@garygordon3075]

It's all done on purpose

[@coopstain1728]

HEY TOPPS WHY DONT YOU ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT MORONS AND CHANGE THE BOXES OR PUT SOMETHING IN THE BOXES SO PEOPLE CANNOT CT SCAN. EVER THINK OF THAT?

[@cardsandcomics]

This will be as effective as their no chemical cleaning policy

[@Jeremy1998999]

So, are these the tech improvements you were saying Topps would implement to stop CT scanning, while arguing that they’ll do SOMETHING to stop it? I stand by my statement: They can’t stop it…they should lean into it and serialize every box AND create a public database with the contents of each box (hits only). Boxes would still be distributed randomly, but it would be on the consumer to check the contents (if they want…maybe they like the surprise). Then the secondary market could price the boxes according to what’s inside. Breaking would be hurt, and it’d change things at LCS’, but it would put an end to all pack/box searching.

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

Tech improvements would be something that other blocks of or some that would red flag it if the box went thru scanner. Which is exactly what I said in the video.

[@Jeremy1998999]

@ Research it, you’ll find those radiation strips turn colors over time due to environmental radiation OR if you take them on a plane. That’s all you need is USPS air mailing your flawless case and presto, now you’ve got a problem. Imagine the argument between the buyer and seller. This jack is out of the box. Why is everyone thinking they can have their cake and eat it too? The hobby will have to fundamentally change regarding wax. So be it, moving forward.

[@jkfactor]

HAHA code of conduct.. HAHAHAHA

[@TheCardDeal]

NEXXXXXT

[@JacksonLloyd952]

Hm

[@BringingTheHeat-VBC]

RIP Fanatics

[@DanWalls-q4f]

TAG fixes this

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

This comment makes zero sense

[@DanWalls-q4f]

@ because you don't understand TAG

[@NEO_Cards_Comics]

TAG is a grading company wtf does that have to do with CT scanning.

[@DanWalls-q4f]

@ TAG has everything to do with everything in the hobby. TAG is the future of the industry

[@JeffreyBeckerPhotographs]

@@DanWalls-q4fplease admit you’re not a real person.

[@CORE1.8MINISTERIES]

They should put something in the packs that scramble actually destroy the scanner

[@ryanra44]

Topps will win that lawsuit as well. They will sue for brand damage and it definitely damages the Topps brand. You somebody is going to dry snitch on their LCS/breaker when they have a falling out

[@garygordon3075]

They don't have a leg to stand on, no one is suing anyone. It's empty threats, exactly what Fanatics is good at. Take it from an attorney.

[@alphaomega9563]

lmfao at night distrbutiors and group breakers be ct scanning. and in the daylight saying yea we dont ct scan. lmfao pro tip thats why certain group breakers and influcers gets the cards. They know whats inside or manufactures want to pump box so they send to a youtube to pull a good card

[@eddyserrano6869]

Stopped buying packs long time ago, all rigged

[@alphaomega9563]

cant stop CT scanning lmfao topps insiders be ct scanning while the timmies and noobs buy the junk boxes

[@JeffreyBeckerPhotographs]

Huh??