Breaking Point

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Palomar Films

Palomar Films

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@patrick247two
@patrick247two 3 жыл бұрын
If it wasn't salty, the Salton Sea would already be used up.
@vernmoffett3077
@vernmoffett3077 3 жыл бұрын
Connect it to the ocean with inlet pipelines to keep it full or a tunnel system, that could be really good for business in many ways.
@jb1934
@jb1934 Жыл бұрын
The birds in that area are impressive. I have been a fan of this story for many years now, ever since I passed through the area driving from Tucson to San Diego one time. But I had not previously understood the dynamic by which the Salton sea replaced other wetlands that were lost to development, giving millions of birds one last chance in southern California.
@Dubsteppinout
@Dubsteppinout 3 жыл бұрын
Tilapia are African fish, there was nothing native or natural about the Salton Sea. It will return to the dry depression that it was before 1915 but the alkaline residue will become a problem.
@selah71
@selah71 3 жыл бұрын
There's a new study that says it is natural. That it has risen and disappeared a few times within the last 1,500 years. Native American people knew of them existing before this one. Sorry, I don't have a links.
@Stacie45
@Stacie45 3 жыл бұрын
@@selah71 The basin has been a lake in the ancient past but things are different now. Humans flooded it by accident a hundred years ago and since then there has been no drainage outlet. The irrigation water from farming has drained into it ever since then and now it is full of residue from pesticides and fertilizer. As it dries up this time it won't just go back to being a desert, it will be a toxic desert for quite a while.
@oldowl4290
@oldowl4290 3 жыл бұрын
BINGO. The state and feds are not about to sink billions of dollars in an attempt to make an agricultural lake some ongoing safe haven for displaced coastal birds, especially not when it's in the middle of a desert and all the major fresh water lakes / reservoirs are dangerously low too. And if we didn't help the Indians in the late 1800's for similar reasons, we sure aren't about to help the wildlife much less the poor people that live out there. It's sadly unfortunate but that's the hard reality of it. They'll just try to find a way to mitigate the toxic dust once it's all dried up and blowing into the rich burbs of Palm Springs and L.A. It's a sad shame but I don't see this issue getting better. It's not going to be a restoration. It's going to be a toxic clean-up effort and may not even get that.
@forcesightknight
@forcesightknight 3 жыл бұрын
You guys did a great job on this video. Don't let the haters slow your roll, your narration style will flow more natural as you grow.
@urbanhooligan3787
@urbanhooligan3787 3 жыл бұрын
We're in big trouble.
@stevecole2616
@stevecole2616 3 жыл бұрын
The largest lithium deposit in the world..They will start mining it for electric cars..
@annietran4529
@annietran4529 3 жыл бұрын
What else is wrong with America? I am starting to see a trend here.
@richardcogbill6791
@richardcogbill6791 3 жыл бұрын
"It's in California...oh Salt Lake City?" " 🤔😂😆🤣😃
@keithhatch56
@keithhatch56 3 жыл бұрын
Our futre is doomed.
@criticaljim1
@criticaljim1 3 жыл бұрын
More of a documentary of human failure than a warning about a future that seems all but inevitable now. We are not a species in control of it's own fate, but more of a runaway process of life that will lead to the complete destruction of the human habitat. I have high hopes for the squirrels to be still around in 250.000 years.
@donaldprice9230
@donaldprice9230 2 жыл бұрын
Well said!!!
@ronalddaub9740
@ronalddaub9740 Жыл бұрын
Ok humanity failed in the garden of Eden 😮 so why get all judgemental now chill😂
@gordybishop2375
@gordybishop2375 3 жыл бұрын
Pipelines for water...not oil. Fill it full of ocean water. Create jobs and more recreation. Renewable powered desalination also. Salt production instead of mining it. Etc.
@FINSuojeluskunta
@FINSuojeluskunta 3 жыл бұрын
Salt isn't even worth producing in that way
@gordybishop2375
@gordybishop2375 3 жыл бұрын
The brine is a by product. They still use salt ponds around the world to make salt let alone starting with a condensed brine
@smokymcpot5917
@smokymcpot5917 3 жыл бұрын
Just stop drinking water. I haven't drank water in months. Just soda and beer. Healthy as a baby.
@timkahn2813
@timkahn2813 3 жыл бұрын
education seems to be just as unknown .
@AURADRCalifornia
@AURADRCalifornia 3 жыл бұрын
Spent many weekends in 1970s with my folks there. It's sad to see what happened to it. Peace-out 🌎
@tiffanyannlama2708
@tiffanyannlama2708 3 жыл бұрын
Haha and this can be a treaties on American education
@rickricky5626
@rickricky5626 3 жыл бұрын
only the beginning
@bryanlamb6351
@bryanlamb6351 3 жыл бұрын
Well done!! That was interesting and informative, nicely put together too.
@nobody687
@nobody687 3 жыл бұрын
Its called a volcano. Good idea to punch holes thru a cap on a volcano. Just saying , what could go wrong
@felixyusupov7299
@felixyusupov7299 11 ай бұрын
One overlooked solution is pump storage between the Salton Sea and Pacific Ocean in California. Pump water out of the Salton Sea at night using geothermal energy and produce hydroelectric power during the day by adding Pacific ocean water to the Salton Sea. The surface area of the Salton sea is 343 square miles. There is a 225 feet of elevation difference between the Salton Sea and Pacific Ocean. They have already bored a hole in the mountain between the imperial valley and San Diego to transport fresh water. They could drill another one for this battery storage idea. Another advantage is you effectively reduce the high salinity of the Salton Sea while improving air quality of the imperial valley by covering the entire dry lake bed.
@eremitehugs7986
@eremitehugs7986 3 жыл бұрын
I'll bet every one of them knows who won Dancing With the Stars last season though...
@RussellFineArt
@RussellFineArt 3 жыл бұрын
With the 2021 and beyond, mega drought, the Salton Sea will definitely dry up so people should prepare for it, it’s inevitable.
@thesilentone4024
@thesilentone4024 3 жыл бұрын
I'm scared of what people used back in the 60s and 80s now have that dust get in you're face
@RussellFineArt
@RussellFineArt 3 жыл бұрын
@@thesilentone4024 True, there's been dust flying around long before the Salton Sea mistake happened. Water in the SW is far too precious to send to a big, stinking lake, that's used for nothing but feeding some birds. It will continue to dry up and be gone soon so people need to deal with that reality.
@thesilentone4024
@thesilentone4024 3 жыл бұрын
@@RussellFineArt did you watch it if this lake drys up hundreds of spices will probably die or migrate somewhere new. Also if it drys um health problems everywhere. If they keep farming like normal California will probably be told to stop or people not the government the people my burn the places down why. California has 50 use of are lake water 50% we get 4% how is that fare.
@RussellFineArt
@RussellFineArt 3 жыл бұрын
@@thesilentone4024 Sorry, your comment is very difficult to read, your grammar is quite poor. Yes, I watched the video as I'm originally from southern Cal and have been to the lake and yes, I know there might be some health issues with the chemicals blowing up and yes, I know that fish will die, which were planted there by humans in the first place and are going to die soon anyway as the salination level in the lake is rising rapidly, and the birds will fly away to the coast or another lake. Yes, I know all of these things but it doesn't change the fact that Cal, and the whole southwest, is in a severe drought and can't send extra water to a dying, useless lake, it's just not possible or logical, so people need to deal with the facts and reality; the Salton Sea will be gone within the next decade so people around the lake had better deal with this fact or move elsewhere.
@scottallencarr
@scottallencarr 3 жыл бұрын
Speaking from CO, top of the river, there's just less water period. Whether by decades of droughts or floods our old water distribution model becomes ever more disastrous. Sadly 25 years of studying the river and the people living off of it has only shown me that it's getting worse and the people only appear to care less...???
@oldowl4290
@oldowl4290 3 жыл бұрын
Please God, tell me that the idiots at the very beginning of this film were 1 of every 100 or less people that you asked. Doesn't anyone use Google Earth or study geography of where you live..even just a little??? I moved to San Diego 20 years ago and getting to know the terrain of Southern California was probably one of the first things I did.
@keithhatch56
@keithhatch56 3 жыл бұрын
Most people are stupid now.
@jimcharlton7869
@jimcharlton7869 3 жыл бұрын
Sure was nice in the 1960's as a kid... the historical photos really took me back.
@philipmcdonagh1094
@philipmcdonagh1094 3 жыл бұрын
Dust Bowl The Return.
@nenamart5272
@nenamart5272 3 жыл бұрын
Ten times worse than that, you bet that book gates is looking forward to buying all of those states when land value goes down to pennies on the dollar.
@calikid3336
@calikid3336 3 жыл бұрын
What if a web of pipelines could be laid on the bottom then oxygen pumped into it like a bubbler system into a BIg fish tank or whatever is needed to start the process of balancing it out?
@chasstone5048
@chasstone5048 3 жыл бұрын
Start digging a deep circle 50-100 foot deep channel around it with filtration . Divert sections of shallows into it to re dig out those shallows to deeper levels an line with material. Keep digging deeper and deep edges and refill with run off or rain flows. Conserve and plant and re stock..yet .with the thermal vents .it might become to hot for fish..does not look good but instead of doing nothing start digging the channel around it and clean out the salty residue left from years of neglect.
@Stacie45
@Stacie45 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm, it is a desert. There is no run off or rain flow out there. It is 120 degrees in the summer, like every day. It was a dry basin before it was flooded by accident a hundred years and it is going back to what it was.
@oldowl4290
@oldowl4290 3 жыл бұрын
Do you realize how big it is? It wouldn't be that easy. Look at it on a map compared to San Diego. It's big but is just a very shallow lake. It's done. It's not coming back. They may sink money into energy resources such as lithium mining and solar but because of how scarce water already is, the state and or federal government is not about to save a dry desert lake that was never supposed to be there to begin with. It's called a "sea" but is not actually a sea at all. It's a shallow lake created as a by product from agricultural water for farming. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salton_Sea
@johnmaldonado750
@johnmaldonado750 3 жыл бұрын
Pump sea water from the ocean into the Salton Sea. It can be done.
@Tina-mt9cl
@Tina-mt9cl 3 жыл бұрын
No it needs freshwater/rainwater. If you keep adding saltwater the h2o evaporates leaving the salt behind and the salt content rises and rises.
@johnmaldonado750
@johnmaldonado750 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tina-mt9cl The Salton Sea has more salt content than the Ocean Walter already.
@Tina-mt9cl
@Tina-mt9cl 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmaldonado750 Which is why it needs more freshwater flowing into it if any fish and surrounding wildlife are to survive.
@julessb
@julessb Жыл бұрын
@@Tina-mt9clcan't they figure out a way to filter the salt out of the water ? i mean personally i don't think this thing should even be here, humans shouldn't mess with nature like this
@Bklyn2SoCal
@Bklyn2SoCal 10 ай бұрын
I'm only 3 mins in & I've got the answer to the (multi) million dollar question that's been asked. Nothing has been done because there's no money to be made resolving the problem. This truly represents out Gov't & our tax dollars at work.
@greeniedrone2937
@greeniedrone2937 3 жыл бұрын
Not sorry to break the news to you: fish and birds are next on the extinction list in California.
@gloriacardona9015
@gloriacardona9015 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you say that?
@dezafinado
@dezafinado 3 жыл бұрын
Greenie: Me go to beach often and me thinks ya know nothing.
@mizskerner2004
@mizskerner2004 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary.
@rscott2247
@rscott2247 3 жыл бұрын
With rising sea levels has there been any thought of channeling any sea water to the Salton Sea or is it considerably higher than sea level ? I wonder if the state could spend money on enough solar panels to power pumps to bring sea water ? It would be something to consider than doing nothing ?
@sentientflower7891
@sentientflower7891 3 жыл бұрын
The ocean isn't nearby.
@forcesightknight
@forcesightknight 3 жыл бұрын
It's below sea level. Not sure how that works.
@julessb
@julessb Жыл бұрын
@@forcesightknightit's below sea level so its actually easier to funnel water to it by using gravity and the ocean in mexico is close to it
@radman1136
@radman1136 3 жыл бұрын
I'm guessin' that this "problem" can't ... and won't ever ... even break into California's top ten. Amazed you got funded for this.
@nickboles9649
@nickboles9649 3 жыл бұрын
So what happens if san andreas plays slip n slide or yellowstone blows its top?
@surfside75
@surfside75 3 жыл бұрын
A Reset. That's what happens.
@raindeargames5160
@raindeargames5160 3 жыл бұрын
Most humans only know their own names because people shout it at them all day.
@timkahn2813
@timkahn2813 3 жыл бұрын
has zip to do with waters wars. it was a thing that came around because of a system failure in farming. and how crops get water. in simple terms a canal system over filled.
@maggiemae7539
@maggiemae7539 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t a failure. It was planned.
@KarlBonner1982
@KarlBonner1982 8 ай бұрын
I visited the Salton Sea last Wednesday. Don't think I'll ever forget that putrid funk! 😵
@forcesightknight
@forcesightknight 3 жыл бұрын
It's 300 feet BELOW sea level?
@johnmcgrew7128
@johnmcgrew7128 Жыл бұрын
If I could afford to get out of this hell hole I would.
@scoobtube5746
@scoobtube5746 Жыл бұрын
Where do you live?
@psunaminami6672
@psunaminami6672 3 жыл бұрын
just a testament to the idiocracy we live in. im sure some of these folks would likely water their garden with gatorade and expect excellent results!
@bobbyp21
@bobbyp21 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Mountain Dew is the preferred choice for watering gardens in the documentary Idiocracy
@keithbarto5464
@keithbarto5464 9 ай бұрын
"Brawndo ....with Electrolytes...it's what plants crave"
@Polacerbic
@Polacerbic 3 жыл бұрын
Build a sea canal to the sea of Cortez or nothing.
@sandramorey2529
@sandramorey2529 3 жыл бұрын
You were asking kids if they knew what it was. How would they know? I know but I am over 80.
@keithhatch56
@keithhatch56 3 жыл бұрын
Because we worship children now.
@桜島芽衣さくらじまめい
@桜島芽衣さくらじまめい 2 жыл бұрын
I knew about the salton sea since 2014 and I was 13 at the time..
@dukeysnider
@dukeysnider 3 жыл бұрын
As far as the drought in the Southwest, there may be a solution. As everyone knows, almost every year the Missouri and Mississippi rivers flood farms and towns all across the mid-west. What if several large pipelines were built to remove that excess water and pump it to the Southwest? It would solve two problems and also put many people to work.
@williamroberts7919
@williamroberts7919 3 жыл бұрын
rocky mountains or pump staright into colarado river.
@jamesharper5545
@jamesharper5545 Жыл бұрын
Their is a lot of now rich politicians making a lot of money from pocketing government the funds. Where have all those funds gone too ? From Gwynn and James Spokane Have
@ronalddaub9740
@ronalddaub9740 Жыл бұрын
You could be aerating it also the government won't allow anyone to be successful with anyting too many codes and regulations
@jacrispycreem6031
@jacrispycreem6031 3 жыл бұрын
It's the biggest lake in California. Oh Salt lake city!
@arthurfowler3766
@arthurfowler3766 3 жыл бұрын
Clear lake
@D0praise
@D0praise 3 жыл бұрын
Is this narrator high? He sounds like he thinks he’s reading a children’s book, Salton Seeeaaa…
@MrMustangMan
@MrMustangMan 3 жыл бұрын
i know, right.?!?!?!?!?!
@lauraarcher6996
@lauraarcher6996 3 жыл бұрын
Most annoying!!! 🤪
@SEAQUEST-R
@SEAQUEST-R 3 жыл бұрын
Get rid of King Cotton and rejuvenate Lake Tulare.
@nobody687
@nobody687 3 жыл бұрын
Dig a canal to the sea of Cortez, great idea
@raypitts4880
@raypitts4880 3 жыл бұрын
they have done something talked about it.
@MyKharli
@MyKharli 3 жыл бұрын
I love dystopian scifi documentaries , this ones particularly realistic except surely no humans would do such a thing especially with all our religious people charged with being good custodians of gods lands and our never been so well educated people , its inconceivable !
@gordybishop2375
@gordybishop2375 3 жыл бұрын
They are consumers of the land...not caretakers
@safe-keeper1042
@safe-keeper1042 3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
@bosco4890
@bosco4890 3 жыл бұрын
Inconceivable! Isn't that from the Princess Bride, haha
@nenamart5272
@nenamart5272 3 жыл бұрын
It does not matter. That drought will spread east and cover the entire country. There will be nowhere to go. This year we will be slapped in the face by god until we all turn to him. The entire country has become a real sodahmen and gamora. God is going to beat the sinful nature this country has shosen to do. They have become selfish, greedy, liers,murders. Thrives, prostitutes, and now you will feel his anger for disobeying him. Like a father corrects his children, so is it with our father in heaven. And all of you, until you turn to him these nightmares will continue to get worse.
@MyKharli
@MyKharli 3 жыл бұрын
@@nenamart5272 Taliban say very similar things , just saying !
@arrrgonot7801
@arrrgonot7801 3 жыл бұрын
Why not build a canal to the ocean?
@Iconoclasher
@Iconoclasher 3 жыл бұрын
Where did the birds migrate to before the sea was there? Those birds have a half-billion years of survival evolution behind them. They'll figure it out!
@sentientflower7891
@sentientflower7891 3 жыл бұрын
Humans destroyed everything else already.
@philipmcdonagh1094
@philipmcdonagh1094 3 жыл бұрын
The birds managed just fine before the lake was there so no reason they wont when its gone. The rest of the worlds animals with the exception of a few seem to adapt to change. We cant seem to adapt to anything.
@iamg000
@iamg000 3 жыл бұрын
The birds most likely moved from Owens Lake, Mono Lake, and Crowley Lake when Los Angeles stole the water from there in the '20s and '30s. Owens lake is gone and is a horrifically natural disaster. Crowley and monolake were saved by the skin of their teeth and are a fraction of what they once were. A human accident created the Salton Sea then the humans wiped out the habitat of the birds so they migrated to the Salton Sea now we have taken what we have given.
@timlewis5096
@timlewis5096 3 жыл бұрын
watching this leads me to feel there are 2 options. No action and southern California air quality will become so bad life will be almost impossible . The other option is for parts of Western California to fall into the Pacific ocean after a major earthquake. Either option will lead to the destruction of western Southern California and a significant reduction of the USA population
@RobinPMac
@RobinPMac 2 жыл бұрын
Good Luck with that
@jackfrost-pw6ie
@jackfrost-pw6ie 3 жыл бұрын
OMG! It's all right there...Run a pipe from the pacific ocean,maintain or increase the water level in the Salton Sea(largest estuary in the americas) powering it with all of Your geothermal energy and desalinate millions of cubic miles of fresh water for the south west...3 huge problems solved...and maybe spray down the evaporated perimeter with cement to eliminate the toxic dust...
@roycavitt4544
@roycavitt4544 2 жыл бұрын
Where are they going when they don't know the way.😎
@4u2cJoeD
@4u2cJoeD 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 50 mil lottery ticket to save Save Salten Sea. s
@justinwaddy4285
@justinwaddy4285 3 жыл бұрын
Either they funnel it from the ocean or its dead
@ronalddaub9740
@ronalddaub9740 Жыл бұрын
Pump fresh ocean water 🌊 in it.
@forever1909
@forever1909 3 жыл бұрын
run a pipe line from up north...........just dont tax me
@kennethbartels1871
@kennethbartels1871 3 жыл бұрын
Sad music in the background while pitching to save the Salton Sea....it's not supposed to be there! We lose nothing! Let ioi go!iwant to flush my toilet damn it!
@janbergh7132
@janbergh7132 Жыл бұрын
Stop sending billions to the war in Ukraine andvusevyour tax money to repear this lake. Greetings from Norway
@maxd3028
@maxd3028 3 жыл бұрын
So the solutions already here why don't the government just start ! What's more important than this !?
@sentientflower7891
@sentientflower7891 3 жыл бұрын
The solution isn't a solution, rather a mirage.
@maxd3028
@maxd3028 3 жыл бұрын
@@sentientflower7891 why actually the whole rescue plan looks very promising it just needs honest serious intention to solve it
@sentientflower7891
@sentientflower7891 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxd3028 the rescue plan was conceived before Lake Mead and Lake Powell entered the terminal phase of their drying. All that agriculture is going to end and there won't be any more runoff.
@maxd3028
@maxd3028 3 жыл бұрын
@@sentientflower7891 I don't know why the government didn't at Least do a cloud seeding or for the long term why they didn't think of a reforestation plan that as well can alter the weather
@sentientflower7891
@sentientflower7891 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxd3028 cloud seeding doesn't work.
@Mimikoo
@Mimikoo 3 жыл бұрын
Your narrator speaks too slowly and too lyrically. I really tried to watch this but I just could not go at his slow pace.
@TheGor54
@TheGor54 3 жыл бұрын
Right. He sounds like Beavis and Buttheads teacher.
@jamestetzlaff7611
@jamestetzlaff7611 3 жыл бұрын
Set the playback speed to 1.25...much better 👍
@28704joe
@28704joe 3 жыл бұрын
Whuuuut?
@slypen7450
@slypen7450 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Chicken Littles! Pelicans have been around a lot longer than the lake. CLs always know a child that died because... With 80% of winter food production coming from the valley we need it more than LA's Holly wierd Marvel's. They don't know what to do.
@kevinlaw6191
@kevinlaw6191 3 жыл бұрын
Democracy works
@MrMAC8964
@MrMAC8964 3 жыл бұрын
Its already too late lmao , snooze ya loose.
@BilloBob1231
@BilloBob1231 3 жыл бұрын
proof that education is very important! and why does the commentator sound like he's depressed and on some serious drugs to deal with this?
@Swordart2022
@Swordart2022 3 жыл бұрын
Lake with shitty name. SALTON SEA , now i know they were are ignoring existence of O .
@thesilentone4024
@thesilentone4024 3 жыл бұрын
Ok California water doesn't grow on trees you're a desert why must you be the biggest water user on this river vages is drying out. I say if this lake drys up its do to the farms not because there told to use less. Vages gets 4% of its water from the lake we reuse the lake water 2 or 3 times before its sent out we are 100% gray water here. California if you go 100% wast treatment like vages does you wouldn't have water problems hell why do you have more rights to the lake water then use we own it.
@Brian_Peppers
@Brian_Peppers Жыл бұрын
This video is funny 🤣 these people live under rocks or something 😂
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