BREAKING: Ronna McDaniel DROPPED From NBC After Backlash

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"NBC News cut ties with Ronna McDaniel, the former chair of the Republican National Committee, just days after announcing she had joined the network as a political analyst.
NBCU News Group Chairman Cesar Conde sent a note to the entire company on Tuesday night announcing that McDaniel would not be a contributor:
There is no doubt that the last several days have been difficult for the News Group. After listening to the legitimate concerns of many of you, I have decided that Ronna McDaniel will not be an NBC News contributor."
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@moody628
@moody628 5 ай бұрын
"team members who felt we let the down..." You mean hiring an election denier to be part of a new room that's supposed to deal in facts might undermine any journalistic organization? Well, no shit, Sherlock.
@moody628
@moody628 5 ай бұрын
Just for the record, "alternative facts" are NOT differing viewpoints. They're delusional constructs... something we used to call simply "lies".
@youcanttakemyDIGNITY
@youcanttakemyDIGNITY 5 ай бұрын
"no shit Sherlock" 😆 Well played Moody, well played 👍
@preston6676
@preston6676 5 ай бұрын
Fire the people or person who hired her
@audreysyphoe2727
@audreysyphoe2727 5 ай бұрын
Lying, cheating, and stealing should not be the standard for opposing views.
@tokejones9278
@tokejones9278 5 ай бұрын
"Lying, cheating, hurting, that's all you seem to dooooooo" Led Zeppelin "Your Time Is Gonna Come"
@swampfaye
@swampfaye 5 ай бұрын
I guess that means all politicians shouldn't appear.
@keithgray2491
@keithgray2491 5 ай бұрын
Or , definitely not a criteria for a president.
@keithgray2491
@keithgray2491 5 ай бұрын
@@swampfaye The lions share are absolutely the republicans. There is no comparison.
@swampfaye
@swampfaye 5 ай бұрын
@@keithgray2491 look up Democrat political convicted vs republican and prepare to eat crow. I'm fine with saying they both suck, but i don't ignore reality.
@janekosola2056
@janekosola2056 5 ай бұрын
Thank you anchors for sticking together, holding your ground, and getting McDaniels fired. She should never have been hired and NBC should apologize to all of you and to all of us who uphold the election of Joe Biden.
@JimmyGambiniEsquire
@JimmyGambiniEsquire 5 ай бұрын
😃🌽🍆🌽🍆🌽🍆🍌🍌🍌
@BringFacts
@BringFacts 5 ай бұрын
Commie kid fuckers
@larrysheppard8433
@larrysheppard8433 5 ай бұрын
Again a democrat proves how intollerant democrats are.
@BosticReiva
@BosticReiva 5 ай бұрын
lol
@keithgray2491
@keithgray2491 5 ай бұрын
...along with firing those who hired her. The trump stain should be punished and jailed. Treason is punishable.
@jamesrobbins1243
@jamesrobbins1243 5 ай бұрын
It's a ridiculous reach to compare Jen Psaki to the likes of Kelly Anne or Sarah Huckabee.
@ICU1337
@ICU1337 5 ай бұрын
Cenk is just mad at MSNBC. They turned him down and now he holds a grudge🤷🏽‍♂
@daydoe40s
@daydoe40s 5 ай бұрын
Big Time; Cenk is just a crybaby and a little bit nutty now.
@joergmaass
@joergmaass 5 ай бұрын
Why did you invite a snake into your house in the first place?
@dgunearthed7859
@dgunearthed7859 5 ай бұрын
You ever heard the expression "keep your friends close and your enemies closer"? Lol
@OhNotThat
@OhNotThat 5 ай бұрын
@@dgunearthed7859 doesn't sound like wise advise to let literal untrustworthy criminals into your house tho
@dgunearthed7859
@dgunearthed7859 5 ай бұрын
@@OhNotThat you know they'd literally have Hitler or helter skelter on if they could. Please save me from the ivory tower lol
@lynnshaffer7824
@lynnshaffer7824 5 ай бұрын
Why on earth they even hired her is beyond me! What idiots run the network there?
@froggy9068
@froggy9068 5 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@philb.1502
@philb.1502 5 ай бұрын
Whoever hired and approved McDaniel's hire has to be fired!
@kingkat74
@kingkat74 5 ай бұрын
ok delusional
@jeffme6891
@jeffme6891 5 ай бұрын
LOL...short memory...remember what happened at CNN after allowing mAgots air time to continue lying on their dime?@@kingkat74
@jonny5143
@jonny5143 5 ай бұрын
You silly fascists
@user-vz6qk9sz9k
@user-vz6qk9sz9k 5 ай бұрын
Lying for your party is one thing. Being a party to trying to overthrow a legitimate govt is quite something else.
@JohnAlston-ib2ij
@JohnAlston-ib2ij 5 ай бұрын
When MSNBC hired Rashida Jones it was strictly nepotism
@lindaaphillippi7015
@lindaaphillippi7015 5 ай бұрын
Thank gawd. She needs to be in jail, not on NBC or any other network that has real journalists
@teddiev2720
@teddiev2720 5 ай бұрын
Cenk totally disagree with you. Joe, Nicole, Jen did not come close to what Ronna ROMNEY Mc Daniel’s said and what her beliefs are. McDaniel’s beliefs are what I consider treasonous.
@ICU1337
@ICU1337 5 ай бұрын
Exactly👏🏽 Cenk just has a bone to pick with NBC/MSNBC🤷🏽‍♂ Dudes takes on that organization is horribly tinted with his bias opinions on them.
@anabelleharvey9342
@anabelleharvey9342 5 ай бұрын
The fact that ANYBODY at NBC thought that was a good idea and that they could just push it through is a perfect illustration of everything that is wrong with corporate media. The fact that they backtracked is not a "victory", it's just the damn minimum.
@LucaJacobson8168
@LucaJacobson8168 5 ай бұрын
It serves *DEM "MINIONS"* . 🙄
@lisaratley4858
@lisaratley4858 5 ай бұрын
Good! Sick of seeing liars being paid for their disgusting behavior.
@rl95719
@rl95719 5 ай бұрын
"Widely diverse viewpoints." Ronna is no better than the insurrectionists in prison and arguably worse. I don't see job offers going out to them.
@larrysheppard8433
@larrysheppard8433 5 ай бұрын
You're a world class douche bag.
@g.benson8477
@g.benson8477 5 ай бұрын
She wasn't even an republican insider anymore because Trump kicked her out, which made the move dumber.
@thedebatemechannel4746
@thedebatemechannel4746 5 ай бұрын
Will the theory would be that she wasn't insider so she can tell us things about how they think and operate. Trust me she knows a lot of dirt that will expose a lot of what the Republicans are doing because she saw it with her own eyes. The fact that she can't tell us what they're doing right now is not really that relevant because the Republican party is still the same corrupt party they were when she was there.
@kushman3184
@kushman3184 5 ай бұрын
But she knew the people there. That’s why she could have been beneficial in terms of getting inside information using sources that she cultivated. Not everyone there likes Trump. PS Everyone loves cancel culture.
@swampfaye
@swampfaye 5 ай бұрын
That's how every republican becomes a msnbc shill. Joe Scarborough was a REPUBLICAN.
@dgunearthed7859
@dgunearthed7859 5 ай бұрын
If she was now a republican outsider with a grudge, she should have been perfect for msnbheehaw
@ICU1337
@ICU1337 5 ай бұрын
She is an insider though🤨 She still had her credentials. She left on good terms. She still had her contacts. She's about as inside as it gets without having her last name being trump. But her inside prospective wasnt needed. Nobody watching NBC/MSNBC cares about that insider perspective. Its a cult, dont need to know more than that.
@eric2500
@eric2500 5 ай бұрын
What did it take to convince them not to hire a LIAR and INSURRECTIONIST for "INSIDER PERSPECTIVES"?
@youcanttakemyDIGNITY
@youcanttakemyDIGNITY 5 ай бұрын
Great question Eric 💯👍 You gotta admit, Romney McDaniel is no Kasparian 🚀 If push comes to shove, Ana would get my vote ✔️
@asinglemaleinuk
@asinglemaleinuk 5 ай бұрын
Diverse view points is one thing, total and utter lying propaganda - is not a viewpoint.
@geneallevato5809
@geneallevato5809 5 ай бұрын
Shouldn't be surprised by this - I'm betting there was a viewership drop and major pushback from advertisers threating to cancel their ads. Whoever thought Rona McDaniel would be a good hire should be fired.
@MrPhotodoc
@MrPhotodoc 5 ай бұрын
NBC did the right thing. Finally.
@youcanttakemyDIGNITY
@youcanttakemyDIGNITY 5 ай бұрын
I agree 💯🥲 But you have to admit Ronna does have a big kaboose 🍑 and that's gotta count for something
@MrGruffteddybear
@MrGruffteddybear 5 ай бұрын
The right thing would have been to never have hired her in the first place.
@ThirtyYearstoolate
@ThirtyYearstoolate 5 ай бұрын
@@MrGruffteddybear Agreed. They were courting MAGATS.
@michaeltaylor8204
@michaeltaylor8204 5 ай бұрын
the bitch still gets paid out after being a traitor to her country _ profits it's insane
@jonny5143
@jonny5143 5 ай бұрын
Yay more fascism from the left 🤣
@richard2218188
@richard2218188 5 ай бұрын
The backlash was swift and brutal.
@bobonyango8969
@bobonyango8969 5 ай бұрын
Cenk you seriously can't put Jen Psaki and the liars liars liars Sarah Huckabee and Kayleigh McEnany in the same sentence.
@Dfl87165
@Dfl87165 5 ай бұрын
She’ll join Fox now without batting an eye and will work for Trump again.
@HellalujahChorus
@HellalujahChorus 5 ай бұрын
Remember not to spell her name “McDenial”. She hates that misspelling.
@robind.thornton1024
@robind.thornton1024 5 ай бұрын
THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE HIRED HER IN THE FIRST PLACE, IT JUST SHOWS HOW WRONGHEADED THEY ARE.
@BALD_PAB
@BALD_PAB 5 ай бұрын
NBC hiring her had gotta be one of the stupidest moves they've ever made.
@jakovasaur
@jakovasaur 5 ай бұрын
IKR, I like my propaganda one sided too. 😆
@keithgray2491
@keithgray2491 5 ай бұрын
@@jakovasaur Big fox/
@keithgray2491
@keithgray2491 5 ай бұрын
@@jakovasaur Well, fox,newsmax,and prager univ(?) are right up your alley. And, dumb donald is your apprentice president. Offense absolutely intended.
@PunkrockNoir-ss2pq
@PunkrockNoir-ss2pq 5 ай бұрын
@@keithgray2491 the world doesn't revolve around trump/fox
@why1968
@why1968 5 ай бұрын
Why? Thought they were all about diversity 🤔 🙄
@remaeburney832
@remaeburney832 5 ай бұрын
I like the teamwork involved. The news anchors all got on board, in public and basically said, we aren't working with this woman. NBC couldn't fire all of them.
@marielacharite-io5iq
@marielacharite-io5iq 5 ай бұрын
MSNBC I would not have watched it ever again if she was hired. I enjoy the truth not BS from her.
@daydoe40s
@daydoe40s 5 ай бұрын
I would've still watched; just to troll.
@Epoxinator
@Epoxinator 5 ай бұрын
If only she could step out of NBC into an arrest warrant and trial for treason.
@paulboccuti1141
@paulboccuti1141 5 ай бұрын
I didn't know Biden was a she.
@humanhelvete
@humanhelvete 5 ай бұрын
GOOD. Who the hell thought she was a good idea anyway??
@baliciascott
@baliciascott 5 ай бұрын
I am so happy to know that she was not hired. Let this woman go to to Fox News where she can continue to spread his lies
@LickVIP
@LickVIP 5 ай бұрын
NBC is filled with pedo democrats and 🏳️‍⚧️🌈💯🇮🇱🤡
@ariel-y-e-m
@ariel-y-e-m 5 ай бұрын
Eh, Fox can't take her after Trumpworld just pushed her out. Maybe in a year or two once the dust has settled. From her perspective, NBC news was probably her best bet
@actownsend7288
@actownsend7288 5 ай бұрын
She shouldn’t have been hired in the first place. MSNBC you guys rock!!! Especially Rachel & Lawrence.
@19slshaw63
@19slshaw63 5 ай бұрын
@actownsend7288 - I totally agree -> Rachel and Lawrence are the best! And Cenk should have listened to what those 2 had to say about it last night before opening his big mouth today.
@dereklwashington1132
@dereklwashington1132 5 ай бұрын
Having different perspectives is one thing. Having a traitor on board is a whole other issue. Everyone who approved this should be fired
@SwyTashee
@SwyTashee 5 ай бұрын
My problem with Ronna McDaniel is that she changed her name for TRUMP and she belongs to a political cult. 😒
@ICU1337
@ICU1337 5 ай бұрын
And now he's telling her to change it back😂👏🏽 This guy is hilarious😂
@chrisbaker3066
@chrisbaker3066 5 ай бұрын
How could any thinking person EVER think that her employment was appropriate?
@milesduggan4996
@milesduggan4996 5 ай бұрын
Bye bye Miss Piggie has to move on 😂
@wfvqrvta
@wfvqrvta 5 ай бұрын
miss magat piggy won't be miss
@erainasmall9260
@erainasmall9260 5 ай бұрын
What kind of craziness is this how could NBC think that this woman would be accepted with open arms after everything she has done and said, thank you for getting it right🤨
@chelseadelo3260
@chelseadelo3260 5 ай бұрын
Good. What were they thinking? Conspiring to overthrow an election is not normal political duties
@tashagreen2686
@tashagreen2686 5 ай бұрын
Cenk we don’t care about your personal opinion. At the end of the day Ronna is gone and that’s it. If you became press secretary you would lie as well. Yall get on my nerves with yall self righteous bs. TYT has there moments when yall are part of the establishment like every other news outlet.
@TheEarlofmc
@TheEarlofmc 5 ай бұрын
My sentiments exactly
@dwill123
@dwill123 5 ай бұрын
Ronna, don't let the door hit you in the &ss on the way out.
@karenbarrett6734
@karenbarrett6734 5 ай бұрын
Yes ! Thank you loyal and ethical MSNBC staff!
@zenrvn4702
@zenrvn4702 5 ай бұрын
Diverse viewpoints is very different from LIES!! The fact that they did hire her is still problematic.
@AAB463
@AAB463 5 ай бұрын
That’s right! It shows a real lack of judgement amongst our media. Journalism schools gotta step it up.
@cherylleitch267
@cherylleitch267 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, you can complain that the hosts might be biased, but they didn't spread the Jan 6th big lie
@gordianturkey6679
@gordianturkey6679 5 ай бұрын
How out of touch these NBC execs are. How morally and ethically vacuous these people are.
@debrawhite250
@debrawhite250 5 ай бұрын
Different perspective and lies are two different things - I wish people would quit treating lies as a "different perspective".
@kevinellis8947
@kevinellis8947 5 ай бұрын
I'm so glad Cenk mentioned Joe Scarborough and Nicole Wallace, but you cannot compare what Ronna McDaniel did to what Jen Psaki did as Biden's press secretary. I would not mention those two in the same conversation.😢
@alfredwilson8482
@alfredwilson8482 5 ай бұрын
I don't know what they were thinking in the first place with that woman
@alberttimko5158
@alberttimko5158 5 ай бұрын
What The Hell were they thinking? Offering McDaniel the position. She is used goods.
@glenneric1
@glenneric1 5 ай бұрын
journalists shouldn't be peddling lies. Leave that to Fox.
@andrewgarcia7959
@andrewgarcia7959 5 ай бұрын
she would have just contaminated the already lost and confuse public, with her currupt , and total lies .
@brucer2152
@brucer2152 5 ай бұрын
So they want diversity in view points?? Where are the liberals and progressives?!!?!
@BaithNa
@BaithNa 5 ай бұрын
They meant "diversity of corporate viewpoints"
@LucaJacobson8168
@LucaJacobson8168 5 ай бұрын
Quiet ‼️ it's DEI and you WILL OBEY ‼️😠
@ThomasEWalker
@ThomasEWalker 5 ай бұрын
All that needed to be said was 'she is far too partisan and too much of a liar to belong anywhere on NBC'. Mistake fixed. GOOD.
@cherylpelletier3165
@cherylpelletier3165 5 ай бұрын
Don't hire traitors
@kayezbiciak544
@kayezbiciak544 5 ай бұрын
McDaniel said she would regurgitate whatever whoever paid her, told her to say. She is a liar.
@hwirtwirt4500
@hwirtwirt4500 5 ай бұрын
Facts!
@Tulipfarmer
@Tulipfarmer 5 ай бұрын
Ronna dumped just in time to start selling Bibles
@shellyb7911
@shellyb7911 5 ай бұрын
Thank goodness they came to their senses.
@mikerew9132
@mikerew9132 5 ай бұрын
NBC hiring Ronna McDaniel is like NASA hiring a flat-earther for an "alternative perspective".
@soniaaquino-md1op
@soniaaquino-md1op 5 ай бұрын
I understand your point about the insiders and lying to protect your candidate;however, there is absolutely no comparison to someone who tried to help overturn the will of the people. This is where your argument falls short. There should not be any platform given to these people.
@timothythompson4036
@timothythompson4036 5 ай бұрын
Rona McDaniel gets fired after three days, why does this not surprise me?
@Angelboy99
@Angelboy99 5 ай бұрын
Cenk, there is a difference between being biased and playing a part in a coup.
@davidstephenson7251
@davidstephenson7251 5 ай бұрын
She'll get a job at fox propaganda
@JohnAlston-ib2ij
@JohnAlston-ib2ij 5 ай бұрын
Why didn't they at least get the opinion of their present news staff. Who ever did this hiring has to go
@d.d.p.parker3671
@d.d.p.parker3671 5 ай бұрын
She should never have been hired
@marlenelamb7820
@marlenelamb7820 5 ай бұрын
Good news Ronna has gone. Bad move from NBC in the first place. Vote blue 💙💙💙💙
@JimmyGambiniEsquire
@JimmyGambiniEsquire 5 ай бұрын
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@DigimonTamerfreak
@DigimonTamerfreak 5 ай бұрын
This is a very obvious outcome. How bad at management can you be to think hiring Rona McDaniel is a good idea?
@Athena-qi1ll
@Athena-qi1ll 5 ай бұрын
My problem with ronna is her enablement of wannabe dictator, and election denier
@erikad0511
@erikad0511 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@thafrodgod3434
@thafrodgod3434 5 ай бұрын
Election denial is a different level. She specifically can not be allowed back in polite society.
@malenaruiz1895
@malenaruiz1895 5 ай бұрын
Excuse me!!!!! THESE ARE UNPRECEDENTED TIMES. WAKE UP One thing is to stay with the administration. HOWEVER, being an complice to defeat the peaceful transfer of power and democracy. Stop. This is the worse reporting perspective you can take.
@pascalnguyen4840
@pascalnguyen4840 5 ай бұрын
You don't get a fox to look after the chickens, common sense staff
@rogueprince1341
@rogueprince1341 5 ай бұрын
Hell yeah. They were quick to fix this mess.
@ms.sharon.7581
@ms.sharon.7581 5 ай бұрын
Hiring her was a bad idea, good to hear she will not be on the network.
@carefulkeeper
@carefulkeeper 5 ай бұрын
I am glad the talent on MSNBC etc voiced their concerns.
@robertpawley5715
@robertpawley5715 5 ай бұрын
Who hired her should also be removed
@LucaJacobson8168
@LucaJacobson8168 5 ай бұрын
Love your *HURT "FEELINGS"* ‼️😆
@robertpawley5715
@robertpawley5715 5 ай бұрын
@@LucaJacobson8168 keep projecting. Send money to Trump, he needs it.
@LucaJacobson8168
@LucaJacobson8168 5 ай бұрын
TRUMP doesn't need my money, he's just got a recent FEW BILLIONS to his way, just like THAT. Maybe nobody TOLD YOU ‼️😭
@LucaJacobson8168
@LucaJacobson8168 5 ай бұрын
😆😅😂🤣😂😅 *"NEEDS IT"* ❓😅😂🤣
@LucaJacobson8168
@LucaJacobson8168 5 ай бұрын
*"CONonMAN"* ‼️😆
@furfreebro3578
@furfreebro3578 5 ай бұрын
Wait, Ronna’s lies “jeopardized our democracy MORE”?! More than who?
@adrianturner7308
@adrianturner7308 5 ай бұрын
Ronna McDaniels deserves to get a job where the extent of her input is "Do you want fries with that.". Additionally, she should get the same minimum wage pay.
@whiskyjames4200
@whiskyjames4200 5 ай бұрын
Or, at one of the Far Right Wing Propagandists echo chambers... Faux-n-Fiends, Newsmock and ASSONN.
@edithgilhuys1631
@edithgilhuys1631 5 ай бұрын
👍 .. LET FOX NEWS DEAL WITH HER
@maxxmasson4263
@maxxmasson4263 5 ай бұрын
Classic example when the inmates are running the asylum
@thomasdeanda2360
@thomasdeanda2360 5 ай бұрын
She is a traitor to the nation.
@A-Gambino
@A-Gambino 5 ай бұрын
Good but it shouldn't of happened in the first place
@jafr99999
@jafr99999 5 ай бұрын
Nobody is watching anyway!
@mewinthedark8513
@mewinthedark8513 5 ай бұрын
man they walked that back so fast🤣😂
@catherinethompson1581
@catherinethompson1581 5 ай бұрын
Too bad they didn't think Medhi Hassan was a valuable diverse voice on NBC.
@Ludivine664
@Ludivine664 5 ай бұрын
Finally NBC got their brain back on. What on earth were they thinking??????
@renee9937
@renee9937 5 ай бұрын
NBC considering her in the first place lets me know all I need to know about NBC.
@WooWooGirl
@WooWooGirl 5 ай бұрын
I admit I watch a few TV shows on NBC. I don't watch their News nor political shows. I stopped watching cable political shows because they never tell the genuine truth...just pick on Biden the Statesman...while giving a free pass to Trump the Alzheimered...allegedly.
@HappyBanjo-oc3pc
@HappyBanjo-oc3pc 5 ай бұрын
Good for you NBC.
@tanyaroberson9629
@tanyaroberson9629 5 ай бұрын
They also need to fire the staff that hired a known liar.
@salley8900
@salley8900 5 ай бұрын
Awesome go get a job with Fox News 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
@loril.mangold8160
@loril.mangold8160 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, WTF were they thinking??? Gee I want to be like FOX??? Or Truth Social???
@Dr.HLecter
@Dr.HLecter 5 ай бұрын
Liars' never profit unless your name is Trump.
@redflamelcd
@redflamelcd 5 ай бұрын
It's why I have the absolute maximum respect for Cenk. Leaving behind the cushiest cable news job paying millions to tell the truth on TYT
@michealryu3090
@michealryu3090 5 ай бұрын
She belong with Newsmax or Fox
@pbr2805
@pbr2805 5 ай бұрын
You belong where????
@stilllife4u
@stilllife4u 5 ай бұрын
I never want to see or hear her anywhere any time ever .
@howardscott8724
@howardscott8724 5 ай бұрын
Who are idiots in the higher-ups who thought hiring McDaniel was a great idea?
@marielacharite-io5iq
@marielacharite-io5iq 5 ай бұрын
Thank God! Why would they want her?
@pbr2805
@pbr2805 5 ай бұрын
who wants you!
@uncleanunicorn4571
@uncleanunicorn4571 5 ай бұрын
both sides-ism To a ridiculous extreme. Jen Psaki Never tried to pressure anyone to change their votes illegally.
@ianw0ng
@ianw0ng 5 ай бұрын
this!
@EricAliawi
@EricAliawi 5 ай бұрын
The HR folks who employed her should also go with her.
@richardoracin2655
@richardoracin2655 5 ай бұрын
Should be in jail and should've never been considered for a media job
@bridgetteshaw9670
@bridgetteshaw9670 5 ай бұрын
She’s needed over at Fox News
@user-nc4nw5jr7u
@user-nc4nw5jr7u 5 ай бұрын
Good we don’t need her there
@bidenkidsniffer4926
@bidenkidsniffer4926 5 ай бұрын
The Young Turds
@bitwise2832
@bitwise2832 5 ай бұрын
Deranged viewpoints are not Diverse viewpoints.
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