What is Qimir's SITH ORIGIN? The Acolyte Episode 5 Review and Discussion

[@joewyatt2269]

"Are they that blind?" Uh, the Jedi didn't recognize that Palpatine was a Sith lord right under their nose. I think hubris is their kryptonite, always.

[@robertstwocents]

Sol went to the ship to report the incident. He left the scene as is because the Jedi will want to investigate the scene.

[@extrashotofespresso_]

As soon as I saw them arms, I became a Qimir girl through and through.

[@MrLee-cy1pw]

He do got some canons attached to them shoulders.

[@mercurystarr]

Yesss!!! 😢👀🍿🥰

[@Em_six]

Because Qimir refers to Sol as master, maybe Qimir was "recruited/abducted" by the Jedi as a small child and Sol could sense the force and great potential in Qimir. Sol starts to train Qimir as an apprentice but then begins to sense the dark side within him and halts his training without explanation and abandons him, or even tries to unalive him because of the darkness within. Qimir then feels isolated and betrayed by the Jedi and Darth Plagus senses his intense emotions and power and is introduced to the dark side and the way of the Sith. Sol has a hard time recognizing Qimir because his mind has been so corrupted and clouded by the dark side that he is essentially a different person. Or Sol does recognize him and is so full of guilt he cant even admit it to himself. Just a thought.

[@karumehickman]

Qimir didnt call himself a Sith. He said that the Jedi would call him a Sith. Not exact;ly the same thing.

[@EwanLim]

nice catch

[@mr.r6741]

I think that’s very important, great catch!

[@Fedaygin]

Indeed. Earlier today before i came here i wrote same to person in Facebook page about the episode. I guess that person was part of rude Fandom 'Karen' Menace because what i got back was nasty meme 😮‍💨 I'll restream S01E05 via D+ on saturday evening, but without those 2x 😐 moments 🙂

[@ceezyjeffezy2213]

OSHA just saw Yord and Jecki killed because of Mae and y’all are confused why she doubles down on the Jedi law and order?

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

What are you talking about Yord died because of Osha Sol told them to leave Osha brought him back. And Jeckies amd Yord were killed by the man Osha just saved so what are you talking about?

[@GurinderJohal]

I believe they mean that all these events are happening because of Mae, Qimir used Mae’s past and personal vendetta and Mae, being the dummy she is, followed through it until she found out Osha was alive

[@ceezyjeffezy2213]

@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord this whole chase is because Mae started killing Jedi. Indara, Torbin, so the Jedi came to this planet to stop her. What are you talking about?

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

@@ceezyjeffezy2213 wtf does that have to do with jedi law? She was ready to have Yord kill Mae because she's afraid she couldn't. But now she's willing to let the killer of all her friends live? If she was willing to allow Mae to die why not the person way more evil? And Yord death is on Osha yord and osha were supposed to leave Osha make yord turn back so you cant even put that on Mae.

[@ceezyjeffezy2213]

@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord wtf are you talking about. When she asked Yord to kill her they had no idea Mae was having doubts, she was on her way to kill a third Jedi after killing two. They were expecting a confrontation. Mae wasn’t absolved of the two murders just because her Master turned psycho. Osha and Yord went back to help Sol and Jecki against a Maniac Sith who Mae brought to the planet. It’s on Mae. To paraphrase Qimir. “Mae brought him here.”

[@WinterSo1dier]

He has no Sith origins. When asked what he was he merely said “you would call me a Sith.” It just meant “I don’t fall in line with your bs” and am still going to use his power as he sees fit. As he can’t be a witch, he’s not a Jedi so… I guess you’d call me a Sith.

[@JBurnz001]

Meanwhile the shows writer said this story is about the Sith. Stop with the mental gymnastics

[@coblamoration1102]

Thank you for saying it. The word usage and it's delivery is interesting and I haven't seen anyone mention it.

[@RelixYG]

@@JBurnz001you got tism if you think it’s mental gymnastics.

[@redomagnus4762]

@@RelixYGyou don’t have to bring autism into it like it’s a negative… Agree that just because it’s a show about Sith doesn’t mean Qimir is actually a Sith. It could be about how “modern” Sith came to be, and they aren’t actually connected to the race of Sith that came before? Idk that much about Sith history, but also don’t know what is canon there anymore.

[@tibaldhunger8386]

I'm still with @winterso1dier on that one. Qimir does not see himself as a Sith. Just a (dark) force user.

[@dtwings1223]

I think Qimir and his master were at the ascension ceremony. There are two mysterious figures flanking Aniseya, and you can see their breath, so I don't think they are coven members. I think Qimir's master is actually the one who can force possess people, they just made it appear as if Aniseya was doing it. I think Aniseya would be reluctant to "pull the thread." I think Sol cuts down Aniseya when Kelnacca is possessed, thinking it would sever the tie, but then realized he killed an "innocent" when the force possession tie was not severed.

[@JPSRCE1987]

Damn that's a good theory right there

[@dtwings1223]

@@JPSRCE1987 Thank you. I believe this is why Qimir is so preoccupied with mind control/mind reading and wears a helmet that protects him from mind control. His master does it often. This is also how his master kills jedi without a weapon. He possessed other beings that kill the jedi.

[@ichigen511]

Guys (and Maude). We KNOW he is tied into the story of the witches because of what Osha told Yord. She told him her mother knew how to get inside the heads of the Jedi. Just like Qimir did to Yord. Who tought Qimir? Hmmmmm???????

[@karlxtrava]

Remember in the first episode when Osha complains that there are no other children on Brendok? Looking back, was there more to that line? Does it have a pay-off? Was Qimir also there, perhaps hidden because it was an all-female coven? Is that how Quimir is attached to Mae and Osha and, by extension, to Sol and the other Jedi?

[@QuickieGames]

Did you see my theory? I have proven that Qimir is at the temple along with Mae and Osha

[@darbdarbouze]

A😮

[@platoniczombie]

Maybe Qimir was the one that fanned the flames, literally and figuratively.

[@snowwhite1494]

I think it was just meant to elude they are force made kids soley born for a ceremony

[@cheesedoodledad4255]

Watched live on KZbin. Back for seconds 🤣👍

[@skylermcelrath2064]

It should be Illegal to have this much fun

[@TravisBurton]

What if Qimir and Sol are brothers separated by the Jedi.... I also noticed that, at times, it seemed as if Qimir was trying not to kill the Jedi. As though - until they saw his face, he wanted to further make the Jedi think something evil, yet unrelated to the Sith was causing their issues.

[@robertstwocents]

Sol meet Qimir the day before. At that time Qimir asked Sol not to do any Jedi mind tricks on him. Qimir was mocking the fact that Sol could not sense the dark side user standing in front of him yesterday. Qimir is taunting this fact and provides another clue, when he refuses to take off his helmet, stating this wouldallow sol to do Jedi mind tricks. The main reason he would not take his mask off was he needed to hide his identity and it gave him an advantage in a light saber duel.

[@seekfind9531]

In Legends, one of Luke Skywalker’s descendants practiced force healing ,but in that book (i’m sorry I forget which book it is, but it takes place many decades after the new Jedi order), when he did it in that book force healing was frowned upon as a dark side trait.

[@meaziemmcglobal8737]

I know a little inside information !!!!May taught him from her mothers powers …..he has her powers now becoming the sith

[@JessicaRose-pi3ck]

Sol knew that wasn’t Osha when she didn’t react to Jecki’s dead body.

[@michaeljeacock]

They set up in episode one that Sol knows about Osha's tattoo. That is how he will know.

[@rtablada]

For a second I thought the thumbnail said, "SH*T ORIGIN?". I was like, damn TBR!

[@DismemberTheAlamo]

I remember a while back there was a rumor about Keanu being cast in a SW role for a project. I fully beleive that it was for the role of Qimir and it was changed to Manny. Given he would have worked a bit with Carrie Anne, it seems like it would have made sense. Thats the theory im going with, exp since in this role Manny does look a lot like it could have been Keanu

[@vicstertv8377]

How come everyone missed WHY Qimir force healed a saber wound on Oesha that she never received before Mae knocked her out?? MAE STABBED OSHA???

[@thelostpawn]

That’s right?!? When did she get that wound?!?

[@garygaston-rd8gr]

It feels like Qimir was somehow on Brandoc... Probably way off but what if he was the Witches 1st attempt at creating a Force child, but he lacked balance and was all darkside... So when they tried again they had twins in order to create balance between light and dark? I suppose Osha saying that her mother also knew how to get in a Jedi's head might have just been a red herring though.

[@andystephens3663]

So all the LIGHTsabers don’t attract the bugs but just that one at the right time does? And he can whoosh away 10 jedis so easily but is helpless to get carried away ? If he has no rules why don’t he just take out his enemies immediately with the force. Crush their heads or just totally cripple them physically?

[@k.-__-]

Love Maude's takes on Star Wars!

[@Mike_C-79]

Sol definitely looked uncertain about Osha (Mae) when he looked at her.

[@ltmp2156]

Remember when Mae came back to him after switching places and cutting her own hair, Sol asked her “Where’s your sister?” Not where’s Mae at? So he definitely has to know something is different.

[@Inklett13]

Noticed that when mae and osha hug, the sun is rising behind mae and its still shadow behind osha… idk if im just looking too much into it tho

[@kittydreamz86]

The hubris of the jedi and the fsct that they give in to dark side inpulses all the time is a huge theme in this show. It's such a brilliant exploration of why the Jedi Order failed and why they have never been able to completely eradicate the Sith.

[@DDuffy143]

Don't know if anyone else noticed this.. but that Kylo Ren theme is first played in Episode 1 Phtanom Menace when they are first shown landing on Tatooine. Check it out.

[@elliesjournals]

disney gave erik a child locked lightsaber

[@bomafett]

Is Brandon really Vince Vaughn?

[@snowwhite1494]

Sith made a deal with Witches having to do with the dyad twins, Jedi found out somehow, tracked them to Brendock where we see Sol try to recruit Osha. Sith instigates fight through witches where they control the Jedi to fight themselves, leading to the destruction of the witches and Sith swoops in for the seemingly stronger twin but the will realize he got the wrong one. Thats all I got so far

[@jordangottlieb4566]

Regarding "everyone having healing now" (not a direct quote)... Don't forget, we've seen healing right from the beginning: Obi Wan healed Luke after Luke was attacked by the Sand People. We also saw Sidious heal Anakin on Mustafar after the fight with Obi Wan.

[@BlyatBlaster]

35:18 yeah, but they’re squashing any other way of looking into the Force because every other group we’ve seen is EVIL. And confronting evil is the destiny of the Jedi.

[@francisco_m7849]

🌪️ oh man, I totally forgot about that whole Jecki scene with osha. If the philosophy is that when something dies, it becomes part of the force and that’s a good thing why is Sol having such a problem with everybody dying unless he has issues with his emotions and he is more clingy than most of the other Jedi. That’s another thing from the beginning is coming off a lot more emotional than any of the other Jedi you’ve seen up to now. All the Jedi are very stoic and focused and have their emotions in check but not Sol.

[@Blazeryzzz]

It sounds like theyre eluding that he knows Sal killed everyone for whatever reason. I think the witches thought the jedi were burning the place down and forced them into a conflict that led to them killing them all. They also mentioned he used the same technique as Oshas mom. Also Sal said he can tell hes no jedi basically saying hes had no jedi training. Id bet the witch that carried the twins in her womb lived and decided to have another baby but this time it was a boy and raised him to be a Sith and exact her revenge on the Jedi.

[@MrLee-cy1pw]

I think he was in the woods on Brendok wispering into Mae's ears.

[@Blazeryzzz]

@@MrLee-cy1pw oooo good one

[@snowwhite1494]

I always knew I couldnt trust Sal from the hit tv show Impractical Jokers

[@Blazeryzzz]

@@snowwhite1494 bro he just cancelled his pods I'm actually upset

[@andiepritchett374]

Why is everyone mad about Sol leaving the bodies. There needs to be an investigation. It’s a crime scene and the Jedi are essentially police.

[@maudesworld]

There are witnesses… no need to investigate too hard

[@hohomon]

I agree. Since Mae (actually Osha) has disappeared, he need to take action quickly and he should also report the presence of the Sith as soon as possible.

[@ChrisSmith-tu9bu]

Uhmnm .. because A.)Either he assumes the Sith is dead and is STILL rushing off the planet for no reason...He, didnt even check to see if the Wookie was still alive B.)He thought Osha was with him but why didn't he go apprehend who he thinks is May. C.)ALL Jedi are force sensitive and Sol is supposed to be this high level guy whos a mind reader yet cant tell theres a switch D.) Why wouldn't you make sure the Sith is dead E.)Why would you leave incredibly rare and dangerous lightsabers all over the woods. I mean they LITERALLY MAKE SUPER WEAPONS out of the crystals that power them..its like leaving Uranium laying around F.)Does this dude not have ANY respect or care for his friends? Would an actual medieval Knight leave a dead comrade's body to be eaten by animals after a battle was over and the enemy assumed eradicated....I mean THE ENORMITY OF THIS BAD WRITING WOULD BE UNPRECEDENTED...if we didn't already have She-Hulk...it is insane about how either incompetent or lazy these people were. Its like a skit show and certain characters are just SUPPOSED to be in certain locations which works in a goofy comedy because it's just comedy bits...this is just scenes without ANY reasoning...if they predecided they wanted certain scenes in a TV show they could have just out-sourced the script to a bunch of high school kids that could brainstorm WHY these people would be at certain places... because as is they never make sense...and if the scenes were oscar worthy maybe it wouldn't be so bad but the scenes are normally boring asf or just disjointed.

[@user-uskxnfiw729]

Sol can’t move bodies to the spaceship by himself. They need a squad with proper transportation vehicles to carry them out of forest.

[@bingobob4124]

didn't Yodi dismiss death as simply rejoining the force - I don't think it would have crossed Sol to give them a proper funeral

[@Hutch-Finn]

perhaps these 4 jedi all had dark-side tendencies, and found a way to lock-away aspects of their own psyche, to conceal it from even themselves. Then they found Osha, who was dark-leaning, and after osha tried to kill Mae (instead of the other way around) they did the same thing to her...

[@RedheartGamer617]

Hi! Love your coverage and discourse on all topics Star Wars! Stopping in to present a small idea I haven't seen mentioned anywhere. I suspect that Qimir is actually a very young Palpatine. He's not been named Sidious by Palgueis -- IE he has no name. This offers an explanation on why Qimir/Palpatine would have been working with the Witches -- furthermore explains his eventual connection to the witches of Dathomir. Also explains some of his behavior in the Acolyte series. Hiding, and manipulating from the shadows, only difference is he's young and makes the same mistake that Maul did on Courisant prior to Phantom Menace. Theres nothing to say that Palpatine didn't have many "acolytes" prior to Maul. Additionally, they've already augmented canon characters ages -- though in Palpatine's case, it could be explained away that Palgueis knew how, and did keep him alive for significantly longer than he would have normally lived through dark side sorcery. Again thank you for being a paragon of the Star Wars community! Keep up the amazing work!!

[@Watch_N_Rant]

23:11 I think Qimir was once a youngling

[@1lionyouth]

How was he causing the lightsabers to short circuit?

[@alexramirez7396]

Force healing was common in the expanded universe, but it was self-healing. Jedi would enter a meditative state to heal minor injuries and it was required learning for Padawans.

[@orckingi1208]

You know, as you guys were talking about Force Healing, a thought came to my mind that maybe Disney might have originaly got the idea of Force Healing from the Naruto anime.

[@ClaudiaS_]

Am I the only one that thought child Osha was a jerk? Because they did belong to that coven of witches, but they were always kind and loving to them, so Osha exposing them to the Jedi was total betrayal. Also… I think those Jedi did something shady af in that flashback and killed them in cold blood, because Master Torbin wasn’t killed. Mae gave him poison and told him she was giving him a chance to repent for what he did. He willingly took it and apologized to Mae as he did… so WHAT DID THEY DO?!

[@itsJayrivera]

Maude is the best thing TBR has ever done

[@francisco_m7849]

🌪️ I do not see a season two coming out of this anytime soon unless Qimir lives at the end if he somehow survives, then I could possibly see a season two. Unless Sol turns to the Darkside and then there’s a season two.

[@mercurystarr]

Qimir is SO FINE EP 5 & 6 MY FAVES OBVS Jecki was putting in the work b4...

[@timetchison4565]

Qimir: I think he is Sol's child

[@jimlock7184]

I think they just chose to leave the recovery of the bodies off camera. For example he could go back to the ship to get droids to retrieve them.

[@CarolineElsa]

Force healing is a Jedi skill featured in the book series MedStar II Jedi Healer - not sure if it's still canon - where Barriss Offee was sent to bases around the galaxy to heal Clone troopers during the Clone Wars. She had been fighting with Anakin and Obi-One and was bummed to be sent to heal "bodies and spirits." This is a Legends book series and I can't remember if those are still canon.

[@BJRecio]

I don't think Force Healing on a Dark Side user is dumb per se - if anything, it might tie to Darth Plagueis? Maybe.

[@THX-eo9bh]

If Chris Stuckmann wrote this Sol would have a comback line to quimir "tell that to Yord's snapped neck!"

[@TheJaker5]

Qimir calling Sol “Master Sol” doesn’t mean a damn thing.

[@empyrealone]

He doesn't say "im a Sith", he says "I have no name, but the Jedi, like you, might call me Sith". He might be saying he's a Sith here, but another way to look at it is that he's saying he's something else, but because the Jedi are so black and white, they dont leave room for something else, so they would just call him Sith even though that's not what he is.

[@Clairejart]

I figure they will send a recovery team in for the fallen.

[@inmaudewetrust]

Maude Squad represent

[@nathandavis9385]

Could have used his lightsaber to take out pip like a back scratcher

[@raphstar]

Really with the spoiler thumbnail? I know we all suspected it, but come on.

[@keithfranklin214]

Didnt Force heal. I know it kind of looked like he was, but the wound didnt heal over. Think he was just turning her over. Maybe using the Force to determine she was still alive, but dont think you can have Force heal and the wound doesnt heal.

[@DJCMO420]

Tom showing off the lightsaber skills was better then the first 4 episodes 😮😅😅

[@artobaron399]

Knight of Ren were rule by another Ren before kylo could be the guy

[@CynicalOptimistPrimal]

Qimir is clearly Ren not one of his knights since he was the only one besides Kylo who uses a lightsaber in the group

[@SilenceintheNight]

I think yall are really underestimating how heavy 9+ dead bodies are, the mechanics of getting out of the forest with the master out there and umbramoths and who knows what else seem insurmountable. Leaving the bodies is the right choice for sure.

[@ringofbrass]

what if force healing requires access to both sides of the force.

[@Thekid_96]

I hope the council dosent blame 7+ Jedi deaths on a creepy jungle and not qimir, I hope that they actually have a good reason some way or another

[@odimusdir9857]

They can blame Kelnacca, because of his rage and exile. And his saber left and camera point at it. So, it was intentional.

[@thewinterizzy]

Been waiting all day for this and didn’t disappoint. 🤩

[@justinshelley57]

Qimir could be hundreds of years old. Sith have thee ability to change the way people see them. he could be a 200 year old Rodian that just looks human.

[@wonkywaddlingwaterwingedwriter]

Watched this live and it was funny cuz Maude was out there cosplaying as a stick in the mud but this time the big boss came onto set and he's enjoying the show so we got a lot of facial expressions this episode lol. I did not like OWK. That's actually a bad show in my opinion. To me this show is good as hell but a bit flawed. It's kinda like those in love see no flaws. Fall out of love and you nitpick all flaws. I'm somewhere in between where I see the flaws but I refuse to give a flying fuck about them? Kinda thing. This show is like being at the beach and having a good time. I can toss on my headphones and ignore the idiots making all the noise and laugh at all the people like Maude just actively trying to have a bad time in a fun spot. A bee might buzz by and piss me off but that doesn't ruin my day. "You had a bad moment not a bad day." is how I try to view negative experiences. You're obviously gonna feel what you feel but ... that has to suck for you cuz I'm literally just happy to watch a pretty good series visiting new planets in a new time period. Everything is new and can be broken down and bits of legends get brought in so I get to watch hours of extra content covering those topics as well. I am getting a LOT out of this series and it's fucking great. That outweighs pacing or awkward delivery on some lines or whatever small stuff I'll notice and laugh at but ultimately just... not care about. It's not the important part about the story being told and intentionally giving it weight is a choice.

[@Ayomi61]

Your qoute "You had a bad moment not a bad day” is spot on. 🤌🏾

[@DDuffy143]

I like beavers... Voss 2024

[@francisco_m7849]

🌪️ that’s always been the big debate about Star Wars in reference to what maude was saying at the end. When we started with Star Wars with the first three movies all you had was the last Jedi versus the last Sith so it was easy to set up good versus evil no problem. Even in the sequel series with ren it was still leaning towards good versus evil as far as the force was concerned because you had ren vs Palpatine. The province starts with the prequel series where you have the Jedi shown as a religious/political force within the world of the existing government. That’s where things got complicated and a little gray area. You literally established a religious organization involved with government and everybody knows that is a very bad idea unless that was the whole point that George Lucas was going for in the movies. If he was trying to establish that it’s a very bad thing to mix church and state because it can lead to bad things then OK if that was his original intent, I don’t know. I’m not a Star Wars, I’m just approaching it from the movies going crazy with the novels and comics and stuff. I’m just going by what I’ve seen of the trilogies.

[@21sled]

The light saber fighting was awesome in this episode, everything else kinda missed

[@EpicFudgemuffin]

It's all arms.

[@miabyte]

I'm begging people just to wait until the series is complete before judging it.

[@daveg2938]

No it's been 5 episodes of HORRIBLE writing

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

So Sol and jackie were with the other jedi when the last episode ended. So where were they in the beginning of the episode when all the other jedi were fighting? Literally the 2 best fighters decided to take a lunch break while all their jedi comrades die. I dont get how this episode is getting praise its still doesn't make sense.

[@christianbeach8975]

It's looks like qimire has the cortosis on his forearm grated into his skin

[@JKallday19]

Beavers when they make dams it spreads water into areas that didn't have water which makes wetlands which makes a lot more homes for other animals so beavers are not industrialists they are naturalists using the Earth and not destroying the earth

[@LiamThorpe]

Maude touched on something I realised had been quietly irking me. The whole series has been totally overusing the wipe transitions, and that is never more evident than when it happens in the middle of action. Even in RotJ, they don't wipe when jumping between Endor, space, and the Death Star. It really was just too frequent.

[@AshMCM]

WHERE IS THE NEW ROCKSTARS VIDEO

[@russellhammond7943]

Im waiting for the sith guy to say “Bankai!”

[@thiccriq7497]

Did y’all have to put the spoilers in the title card? Smh

[@cristianomachado4205]

for me, he is a knight of Ren ... maybe the first

[@eduardoablf]

Bazil is the Master.

[@travismiles8104]

@NewRockstars He killed OSHA’s and Mea’s Momma ( I write this 13 min in)

[@christianford9401]

What if qimir is the acolyte and he's using the twins to kill the jedi for his master.

[@agomezkrauss]

Gotta love beaver.

[@sylvainayotte7741]

Imo, Qimir is not really a sith......otherwise he would have responded Darth something...... just a former jedi using the dark side..... proclaiming himself a sith..... no one heard of them in 1000 years........ no big deal to 'use' the name..... who would know... BUT...... wait until he comes face to face will a real sith......😲....

[@AlzheimersCaretaker]

since he's not using a predictable fighting style, Qimir vs. jedi = Deadpool vs. taskmaster

[@rockazillasrex3070]

The writing isn't that deep, he knows Sol from the apothecary and that's it

[@Dlo-Xpo]

Maybe the show is trying to play with the semi sorta nationality of Sol and Qimir. But listen to this far out there scenario if nationality is my reason for this idea. Sol and Qimir maybe related and my far out part is what if there is an age related reason why they look different and they are TWINS like Osha and Mae. Cuz Qimir said what happened to your dark side. I know this is a very very long stretch. But I still feel they are related in some why.

[@RyanHaney55]

Manny was great being sinister and still throwing in a goofy "Hello". The choreography was spectacular. This should be watched as a double episode Day/Night. Force healing has been in Star Wars video games long before Rise of Skywalker.

[@GurinderJohal]

For me, I’m so confused about Mae. She says that Osha being alive changes everything and then wants to turn herself in to the Jedi. Then fights Jacki instead of surrendering to her and telling her that she doesn’t want to fight. Then runs off and then almost gets killed but Yord sacrifices himself for her. Then she runs off again, the idk force pushes Osha into rocks that could’ve killed her and starts saying she’s brainwashed and dumb. Then takes her place and goes with Sol leaving Osha behind with Qimir to who knows die. So what was the point of anything.

[@frann8552]

She thought the Jedi could protect her from her master, she proceeds to see like 4 of them die instantly and then she tries to run away.

[@SIMON_SAYS_SO]

Qimir is not Sith. That is what the Jedi would call him. Qimir is the first Knight of Ren.

[@simicbranislav4473]

its not heal he just turn her ower with force

[@michael_runs_a_lot]

Beavers 🦫 are good for the environment and the climate

[@jladelaney1978]

Qimir out there cashing cheques and snapping necks

[@JKallday19]

Best part of the ep or the show so far ...

[@logan825]

You just revealed your UK status lol

[@bowlsem7]

Yord was being realistic about lightsaber combat. The only beings that can really use lightsabers effectively are jedi. For non force users a blaster is much easier to kill with. So the only real experience any jedi has against another lightsaber is dueling another jedi trained by jedi.

[@platoniczombie]

Especially in this time period.

[@ThespianPrince13]

Unpopular opinion: Qimir should’ve been the protagonist of the Acolyte. No twins. No witches. Just “Qimir” training as a Sith apprentice and navigating the galaxy.

[@smokeykenobi1653]

Training as a sith under who?

[@debso]

​@@smokeykenobi1653 darth tenebrous...

[@extrashotofespresso_]

Just say you don’t want a show with a woman protagonist

[@FoolShortOG]

Probably not as unpopular as the acolyte is in general. Qimir is by far the most interesting character of the show. It's not even close.

[@ichigen511]

Yeah. Unpopular for a good reason. Sorry you didn't get the toys you wanted for Christmas. I did.

[@debso]

Acknowledging a jedi as a master isn't uncommon. Sidious called Yoda "master Yoda"

[@FOAHelix]

This! She got hyper fixated on that and every time I was like no hes just being "respectful" Master Jedi is something that gets thrown around all the time

[@sndhigh]

I’m not saying either way, but the reason sidious was doing that may have been because of his preexisting relationship with Yoda. In both cases, they are using “master” ironically - or maybe sarcastically. Or something. Not sure the word to use there 😅. Just a possible explanation.

[@fulgar_films]

When Qimir kills Jecki lon. That was a filipino martial arts move. Kali, also known as Arnis or Eskrima, is the martial art of the Philippines. Kali emphasizes fighting with tools like sticks, knives, swords, improvised weapons, as well as empty hand techniques. Manny Jacinto is filipino.

[@ichigen511]

Nice. Thanks for the info that's fucking awesome.

[@snowwhite1494]

thats dope that they know trakata in the philippines

[@steelsheen]

FINALLY somebody mentioned it 👏👏👏. the reveal of Qimir behind weapons that partially hides his face is an Arnis defensive posture. iirc Arnis have already been peppered throughout Star Wars fight scenes for decades, but gained special prominence when lightsaber fighting extended to include 2 weapons instead of just one.

[@mercurystarr]

My coworker trains in a class with escrima sticks. Super cool - like nightwing

[@its-siilvy]

They used real light-up devices with battery packs in them for this show, so kinda kills Erik’s thing for the choreography around the placement of where the beams “would be” (and also explains why the hilts are thicc hogs)

[@kokane531]

Osha will kill Sol in the final episode without a weapon and this will be when she completely turns and fulfils her sister's original objective and becomes the Acolyte.

[@thelostpawn]

She’s gotta control his mind/get into his head

[@mercurystarr]

Sol killed her mom - I wouldn't be mad at it. Jedi had no business on her planet looking for kids to test & take to Coruscant. Torbin apologized cause he knew it was wrong asf

[@hoos3014]

Nailed it

[@Nightlightknight]

Is he really a Sith though? Or is he saying that any Force user who is not a Jedi tends to get lumped under the Sith banner when they may just be a dark Jedi or just a force user who does not adhere to the Jedi dogma.

[@ChrisSmith-tu9bu]

No telling CLEARLY this show despises Cannon...he probably comes from a colony of Sith and they could be all gay guys having sith babies...At this point theres no limit to the amount of Cannon the writers just ignore to suit whatever jacked up story theyre going for

[@jairmorales2017]

Idk the RED light saber isn’t a tell? 🤨

[@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord]

Sith is a very specific thing. Thats like hearing im Christian and just lumping me in with Judaism thats saying " ehhh close enough". But in reality no is completely different

[@ChrisSmith-tu9bu]

@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord I mean the dude could be lying but the show is making up its own cannon as it goes...Im sure if they were writing a Muslim character itd be a pig farmer and love making sausages..its so badly farcical while ignoring so much of the other lore no telling whats happening... I imagine they thought him saying you can call me sith because yall cops wont let me be me sounded cool and jived with their whole there is no evil world view and the good guys are the bad guys storylines they love.

[@frann8552]

​@@ChrisSmith-tu9bu What canon is it making up you haven't said a single thing that they've made up. For the love of God just stop watching the show if you don't even know what your talking about