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Deep dive into American moldings 1740-1950

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Brent Hull

Brent Hull

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@johnny-63
@johnny-63 8 ай бұрын
This man is single handedly saving us from the dark ages of building we are in.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Haha. THx.
@who2u333
@who2u333 8 ай бұрын
From the perspective of a random KZbin commenter, I think perhaps the most important thing these students learned is that moldings and columns ARE NOT RANDOM. If nothing else, hopefully when they look to use a molding or column that statement comes back to them.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Nice. Thanks for watching.
@ThePolypam
@ThePolypam 3 ай бұрын
Can't believe we get these master classes for free. How incredibly generous of you, Mr. Hull. Top quality content.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@flybyav8tor
@flybyav8tor 8 ай бұрын
Your videos over the last year have helped us restore our Virginia 1850s farmhouse so well. From buying and installing long leaf and Virginia short leaf floors to purchasing, restoring, and installing 1840s windows. To purchasing 1850s doors, hardware and hinges! To the Greek revival moldings, window set high, to the front porch columns, to the back deck railing height, to the gable returns, and hopefully in the next 2 years wood siding and wooden roof! Our family now has a restore piece of history to enjoy for generations thanks to your knowledge!
@cottagekeeper
@cottagekeeper 8 ай бұрын
I live in Virginia and I’m trying to convince a new owner of a 1835 brick farm house to not flip but restore. Any advice?
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Wow!! Great work. So glad it helps.
@merrim7765
@merrim7765 6 ай бұрын
@@cottagekeeper Here's one: Make him an offer he can't refuse and then do it right!! He needs to buy 21st C stuff.
@jrgunn5
@jrgunn5 8 ай бұрын
Faced with crickets when talking to students about Palladio, Vetruvius, or later architects/designers like Serlio or Christopher Wren; I feel your pain. On reflection, I didn’t discover these sources in design school; I discovered them taking elective courses in Architecture and Art history. Most designers of my generation (graduated in ‘87) were trained in the process of historical research, with a shallow view of the history; (I.e.: “research what you need to create a look, you don’t have time for details.”) looks like this hasn’t changed much. BTW; would have loved to see the Q&A.
@derschwartzadder
@derschwartzadder 8 ай бұрын
same, on the q&a though i wonder the quality of the questions.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. Sorry about that.
@ThePolypam
@ThePolypam 3 ай бұрын
Bet they didn't ask any questions at all.
@statesidechippie
@statesidechippie 8 ай бұрын
Brent, your books, and many of the other titles you recommend have proved invaluable to me as a carpenter over the past few years. I can’t thank you enough for all the great content, and keep banging the drum for better design and architecture.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Great to hear it! Thanks.
@dennisdean3925
@dennisdean3925 5 ай бұрын
I love your passion for 'correct' mouldings and (trying to) teach that to students. Hopefully some of them 'got it' and will impact and improve the builder trade.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 ай бұрын
Let's hope. Thx.
@oneguy4196
@oneguy4196 2 ай бұрын
I recently moved to Williamsburg VA to immerse myself in the culture of historic craftsmanship that is vibrant here. Found your videos and they resonate with me! I'm excited to learn from you. Thank you for taking the time to share your passion and knowledge.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard! That is a great part of the country.
@JFILL2243
@JFILL2243 7 ай бұрын
This is a breath of fresh air to see. I'm a fourth generation family owned business woodworker. We have over 1,800 custom moulding profiles and we still make millwork items by hand when even the newest state of the art machinery wont get it done. Seeing a market full our resawn mouldings since I started 15 years ago is a sad sight to see personally. I've come to terms with it because there is a market for everyone. We can mill millwork packages for a $200,000 home or a $2,000,000 home. The scary state of the market is the fact that the $2,000,000 homeowner has no idea how much nicer their home can be but the builder is pushing a commodity off the shelf.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 7 ай бұрын
Good point. thanks for sharing.
@TheSeriesofTubes
@TheSeriesofTubes 8 ай бұрын
I can feel the frustration in your voice speaking into a void of people that don’t care and don’t understand his work. As you outlined in your book, building a timeless house in an instant age, Architecture is a reflection of culture, which is downstream from values. I think we are experiencing a shift in consciousness for many of us that are rejecting modernism and thirst for this knowledge and craftsmanship. The future is bright for those who can see through the sea of idiots. I’m so glad this was filmed, so the people that want to see this, can.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@coclementsjr
@coclementsjr 8 ай бұрын
Really great presentation. Very valuable for me, as I am in the final design phase of a remodel of an old non descript frame building into a craftsman style farm house. Have 10' ceilings throughout, so this is very helpful in proportioning my mouldings correctly. Thank you for posting.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Cheers.
@tommooe4524
@tommooe4524 3 күн бұрын
Brilliant lecture….no surprise that these young genuses have no idea what you are talking about…..we do historic architectural duplications and custom moulding and millwork in our shop and even some of our older architects come in and just don’t have an understanding of the proportions you preach about. Thanks to your videos I have learned so much from you. Looking forward to your new book. Highest regards.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 күн бұрын
You're very welcome! Looking forward to the book launch too.
@mancinidesignbuild
@mancinidesignbuild 2 ай бұрын
I was set back when you first asked who knows the 5 orders of architecture and later who is Andrea Palladio and all that was heard was silence.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 ай бұрын
Yep, crazy.
@rickydavis9379
@rickydavis9379 8 ай бұрын
This is awesome stuff!!! I am a real estate appraiser and it is the same old stuff!! Everything is yuck!! It does not matter what house you walk into you can see what came from which big box store!!! It would be awesome to walk into a house and see this kind of building going on!! Mr. Hull keep up the good work!!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much.
@PaulJacksonOttawa
@PaulJacksonOttawa 8 ай бұрын
I've been looking forward to watching that all week Brent. Watch the twice and we'll write down the names of those books architects and authors you recommended. It's the best stuff I've ever seen really appreciate producing these videos and learn a ton from you, but your inspiration is what is makes these such awesome learning tools. Thank you very much
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Very kind. Thx.
@GoodLifeGlaucus
@GoodLifeGlaucus 8 ай бұрын
Brent, I found your channel a few days ago and I've been soaking up your knowledge on the way/reasons why things were designed and built in the past. Thank you for sharing your passion through YT, books, Passion for Craft podcast, and the like. I'm excited for your new book to come out! Any hints on when it might drop??
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. I turn it into the publisher this month. Then it is in their hands. Early 2025?
@GoodLifeGlaucus
@GoodLifeGlaucus 8 ай бұрын
@@BrentHull 2025, fair enough. I ordered Hull Historical Molding Catalog + Get You House Right yesterday based on your recommended kit list. I'll use them to scope out details in what I now understand is my Queen Anne Victorian brownstone condo. I'm most interested in the furniture section your your new book. I'll binge your videos and other similar books until the release. Thanks again Brent!
@rbrazz
@rbrazz 3 ай бұрын
Amazing! Years of knowledge in 45 minutes. Thank you!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 3 ай бұрын
Thx for watching!
@MySqueakyfoot
@MySqueakyfoot 8 ай бұрын
Organization- what a consept.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Haha. Yep.
@Hakaze
@Hakaze 6 ай бұрын
The Norwegian university of NTNU just opened a classical line of architecture, graduating the two first classical architects in Norway in over a 100 years. I think we're finaly starting to change.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 6 ай бұрын
That's great news. Thanks!
@Tgill2236
@Tgill2236 8 ай бұрын
Perhaps a video on how to attenuate the classical orders. Stone vs wood.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Ah, good idea. Thx.
@dennisdean3925
@dennisdean3925 8 ай бұрын
Brent, great job exposing those students to proper scale and proportion of different eras. I think they got some of it and hopefully inspired them to do some more research and investigating about 'proper' ways to build/design.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
I hope so. Thanks
@andrewj464
@andrewj464 8 ай бұрын
Loving the long-form content. Can't wait to read the new book.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Nice. Cheers.
@brucebenson9651
@brucebenson9651 3 ай бұрын
This is a Master Class every architect today should know! The crap we see today is unexcusible for builders and architects. Cheap budgets and high profit have led to America's loss of architecture. We destroy these historic clasic buildings that will inspire future generations to put up cheep housing. Thank you for educating us!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!!
@khurddesign
@khurddesign 8 ай бұрын
I'm posting a lot here, forgive me. ....when I decided I would educate myself to become an Interior Designer, one thing I wrote down was to learn about was molding. In the last two years I've seen more and more design images on Instagram with decorative moldings and returning to traditional design (but with some modern influence), and I absolutely love it. (Marie Flanigan in particular is the one that inspired me the most in appreciating traditional design again; though now I want to go back and analyze her work!) ...the thought of learning molding seemed a bit daunting and one I hadn't started pursuing yet. A link to one of your videos shared by W Design Collective's blog lead me hear and I'm glad! having video resources and verbal explanation is super helpful.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Nice, keep it up. You will be far more informed than many interior designers. Moldings are often after thoughts. Thx
@unitauni
@unitauni 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant masterclass! ❤❤❤❤
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Nice. Thanks.
@jeremyames1342
@jeremyames1342 8 ай бұрын
I'm literally on my way back from the lumber yard now planning on going home watching your videos milling molding for an entablature over my front door. Can't thank you enough for the videos
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
haha, Nice. Good Luck.
@coclementsjr
@coclementsjr 8 ай бұрын
Just watched a movie (a play really), where it appears to have been filmed in a real house. 1973: A Delicate Balance. The base moulding was easily 12" tall. Stairs and railing, doors, were awesome.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Interesting. Thx.
@Renegator1
@Renegator1 2 ай бұрын
Wow! Awesome video. Ordered your first book the other day. Looking forward to getting it.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 2 ай бұрын
Thanks, I hope you enjoy it.
@petemclinc
@petemclinc 4 ай бұрын
I'm taking exception to your rule of "Never Place Chair Rail At 36'". I have bookcases with intregral lower base cabinets and counter tops set at 36". I'm running a chair rail around the room, having the chair rail intregral to the lower base cabinets and flush with the top edge of the countertops for a continious and seamless appearance. I trust you agree?
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 4 ай бұрын
2 problems. 1. There is no strong historic precedent for chair rail at 36". 2. lKitchen counters are 36" Book case lower cabinets should be at a table height of 30" I think your book case lower cabinets are too tall. My opinion.
@petemclinc
@petemclinc 4 ай бұрын
The reason for 36" chair rail is to match that in adjacent dinning room with built-in wet bar and China cabinet. I bet there is no strong historic precedent for wet bars. Thanks for your opinion and consideration.
@BrianBoudreau12
@BrianBoudreau12 5 ай бұрын
That…. Was… AWESOME!!! I am hooked
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 5 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it! Thx
@robertbamford8266
@robertbamford8266 8 ай бұрын
How would this apply in a room with an 8’ ceiling? To keep it “simple” 1970s ranch, what proportions would you play with? Lots to think about. Thanks.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Good question! I would probably still go back to the ideas I shared in moldings for 8' ceilings. Thx.
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby 8 ай бұрын
Brent, another great summary. Your 1956 catalog showing "No. 76 Style Z, large casing" (3-step) is similar to all of the 4" casing in the 1939 house I'm in. It's on all doors, windows, garage windows etc. Compared to modern homes, these all look "huge" But I wouldn't want smaller. I've been in older homes with smaller original moldings and it's definitely a cost saving thing. Base moldings are 2-piece with a 6" tall piece + 2" sculpted piece atop that (and with quarter round at the floor. Every wall is wallpapered, with separate wallpaper faux crown up top (2" ?) I'm doing a mild update and am considering adding chair rails to the mix (currently none.) Window stools are at 27" from the floor; rooms are about 8 1/2" height. Seems like it might work.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Nice. Good luck.
@kevintreon5099
@kevintreon5099 8 ай бұрын
What a great talk. Someday, I hope to sit in on one.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Please do!
@illestj3990
@illestj3990 8 ай бұрын
Awwwe I love your style 😍 its all going to come together beautifully.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🤗
@Hog-g2z
@Hog-g2z 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thank you for sharing,
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thx for watching.
@Hog-g2z
@Hog-g2z 8 ай бұрын
@@BrentHull I have been using a book for many years for my work, Moulding & Turned Woodwork Of The 16th , 17th and 18th centuries, By Tunstall Small & Christopher Woodbridge, if you have not seen it you might find it interesting, and a book Thomas Sheraton, The Cabinet-Maker and Upholsters Drawing-Book, I am a self taught specialist joiner, Cabinet maker, now retired in my 70s, and I have moved from the UK to France, where I find French architecture very interesting, Over my working career I’ve made and restored very high class furniture windows and doors, You also might find interesting architects of London called Simpson , They are involved in building and renovation projects, From royalty, stately homes universities, numerous other end projects, I hope you find this interesting,
@ryansoo4000
@ryansoo4000 8 ай бұрын
Hi Brent, great video! At minute 39:10 you talk about the Arts and Craft moldings and how simple they are and how they would be a good modern molding. Do Arts and Craft moldings still follow a classical system of proportions in the size and shape of a particular piece of molding and where it is placed on the wall (either as a single piece of molding or as part of a built-up grouping of moldings)? I know you designed a series of moldings for WindsorOne and Kulken Brothers - did you do an Arts and Crafts collection? Perhaps you could do a video on how to use these moldings in a modern home?
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Hi, good idea. In some ways they do and in some ways they don't. I'll look into a video. Thx.
@stephaniek8284
@stephaniek8284 8 ай бұрын
I would also love to see a deeper dive into the philosophy of the arts and crafts era, or even other architectural styles from the 1890-1920s. I feel like there was something special about how that era attempted to update and modernize traditional architecture that we lost with the commodification of building in the following decades. Art deco is also a good example of this.
@coclementsjr
@coclementsjr 8 ай бұрын
You've touched on this, buy you should do a vid on Walter Gropius et al, and their distain for mouldings. Would be fun.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Good idea. Thanks.
@rickdeyoung8886
@rickdeyoung8886 8 ай бұрын
Wow great information in this presentation, hopefully these future designers and architects will use this to improve the quality of future designs
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Lets hope. Thanks!
@nated1971
@nated1971 8 ай бұрын
I would love to have heard the teachers comments on this lecture in their next class
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
The teachers enjoyed it, the students meh. . . LOL
@khurddesign
@khurddesign 8 ай бұрын
I'm guessing hierarchy also played a role with house guests? ...I've visited Chatsworth House in England, and I've heard somewhere at some point (can't remember exactly) that people would go up to these grand houses in England and ask for a tour. And they would allow them in to see the home. ... As a modern-day tourist at Chatsworth there were designated areas we could walk through; and the rest was off limits for the family living there. Same with Haddon Hall. ...to hear it described as a language makes sense. it would tell them, "you can visit this room." or, "Oops, you're in a bedroom! Better go!" simply by the level of detail and formality.
@khurddesign
@khurddesign 8 ай бұрын
appreciate you sharing this info!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Thx.
@thetubekid
@thetubekid 8 ай бұрын
As always, great content and thank you!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@christopherzehnder
@christopherzehnder 8 ай бұрын
These are some lucky students. I hope you inspired a few people with your talk. Thanks for sharing. I always learn something new from you. When in 2024 do you think your latest book will be released?
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks, update is coming soon. I hope to give to the publisher this week. Then it is in their hands.
@batchrocketproject4720
@batchrocketproject4720 8 ай бұрын
Very nice presentation with some useful examples. I've often wondered about a trend in older properties here in the UK where the cornice is short in vertical height compared to how far into the room the upper cornice face, in contact with the ceiling, extends. I've never reconciled that design to any of the classic orders but quite like the effect. It's common enough in pre-Victorian properties that I've always assumed there was some rhyme or reason to it Interestingly, I've never seen off the shelf cornice with that aspect ratio either so don't believe it's a modern affectation. Is that seen in any period rooms in North America?
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Yes, it is very common. Thx
@davidpitt4320
@davidpitt4320 8 ай бұрын
I am no builder but this is fascinating and explains so much. One thing I think you meant St Peter’s not St Paul.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks and yes, Peter not Paul. Thx.
@petemclinc
@petemclinc 4 ай бұрын
St. Paul's is in London...
@davidpitt4320
@davidpitt4320 4 ай бұрын
@@petemclinc Yes but the Vatican which Brent was referring to is in Rome and is built upon St. Peter’s tomb. St Paul’s tomb while in Rome is outside the Vatican. St Paul’s cathedral in London was built in 1710 on the site of an older church built in the 6th century.
@johnmortenson1184
@johnmortenson1184 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video! Question: the mouldings you helped Kuiken Brothers with are produced in 1" variants, but to the 1/2". From this video, a 10' room should have a 6" base. Assuming I'm using one of their thick Georgian or Federal bases, will their 6-1/2" or the 5-1/2" be more correct and look better? Or in this case would you just trim the longer base to be mathematically correct height? When trimming isn't as viable--like with curved mouldings (maybe crowns)--is there a rule of thumb that it's better to be slightly longer or slightly shorter? Thanks for helping us all build better!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 7 ай бұрын
Hm, it all depends. There are no hard and fast rules. I like 5 1/2. Good luck.
@annafilban2859
@annafilban2859 8 ай бұрын
What do you think of Cindy Stumpo? She has a video where says she builds half modern and half traditional. They seem very clean and simple but uses traditional proportions, but I dont know if that's exactly a new and unique style. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I asked her about passive houses on an X space and she wasn't a fan at all. I still have massive respect for the beautiful homes she's built. I look at all these McMansions in H-town differently now that I've been watching your channel btw! Can wait to see them with new understanding in Ft Worth/ Dallas.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
I'm not familiar with her. I'll check it out.
@donlourie769
@donlourie769 4 ай бұрын
Peter was crucified in Rome. Paul was beheaded in Rome. The church built on Peter's grave is called Saint Peters. History. I am about to do a major remodel of a 1968 house. All the present trim will come out and I will be making all new trim myself. Wish I could get the chapter in your book on trim. You have changed my perspective on trim so much. Thank you. But it was Peter.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 4 ай бұрын
Thx. good luck.
@petemclinc
@petemclinc 4 ай бұрын
St. Peter's Basilica in Vadican City is the site were Peter was crucified upside down. I noticed that error too, Brent needs to sudy his Catechism.
@ThePolypam
@ThePolypam 3 ай бұрын
​@petemclinc I agree he made a mistake, but he's not a theologian, nor should he be expected to be.
@derschwartzadder
@derschwartzadder 8 ай бұрын
I really, really need your reading list. Way too much great info for me to digest here. Do you have recommended reading?
@andrewkennedy9704
@andrewkennedy9704 8 ай бұрын
There's a link in the description to his books used.
@derschwartzadder
@derschwartzadder 8 ай бұрын
@@andrewkennedy9704 totally missed that. I assumed it was just the 3 or so he quoted in the video. Thanks for pointing it out!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
See the description for a start.
@dr.lisastinson8967
@dr.lisastinson8967 Ай бұрын
This was really useful. I have seen several of your videos since subscribing and have a question for you. I am an American but I live in France. I'm in the process of up-selling my house and am purchasing a Victorian home (1870's) in the Haute Vienne. It is in really bad shape overall and needs a lot of love but when finished she really will be a spectacular home. (I also love the fact that she made it through two world wars with minimal damage). Your channel speaks mostly to popular styles and moldings in the US. In terms of style, proportions, etc would your books translate to a home in Europe? This house was probably last updated about 70-80 years ago and I want to bring her back to her former glory as much as possible and that will include repairs to existing molding and adding chair rails where they were removed. I'm guessing there would be a lot of useful information in your books regarding proportion and scale. Is it possible to order them and have them shipped to my address here in France? Thanks.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Ай бұрын
Well that is a great question. I think the rules of proportion and scale will definitely translate. Molding shapes will be and are different. The philosophy of how to think about building and restoration in Timeless House will be good. Moldings in others won't. Good luck, sounds like fun.
@dr.lisastinson8967
@dr.lisastinson8967 Ай бұрын
@@BrentHull Great. Thank you.
@ivonekowalczyk5823
@ivonekowalczyk5823 8 ай бұрын
Just saying at 19:25 you said Paul got crucified and Vatican City was built there....that was Saint Peter, no? Such a great video! Wow. So much knowledge has been lost. I feel like we are such a stupid society. Thanks for your great effort in bringing wonderful craftsmanship back!!
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Yes! sorry about that. Thank you!
@Custodes21
@Custodes21 8 ай бұрын
Not sure if you’ve mentioned in prior videos, but have you read any of Christopher Alexander’s works? Pattern Language, being the most well known, I think.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Yes, I have. Thx. It's worthwhile.
@Custodes21
@Custodes21 8 ай бұрын
@@BrentHull Totally worth it. I haven't made it around to "the timeless way of building" yet. Thanks for your videos!
@moxielouise
@moxielouise 7 ай бұрын
Were these freshman? Do they not have to take arch history? In any case, i loved your lecture. I learned a couple of new things that will send me off to research and learn deeper. Thank you
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 7 ай бұрын
Ha, glad to hear it. Cheers
@moxielouise
@moxielouise 7 ай бұрын
@@BrentHull yes, I've known all the pieces and parts forever but exact precise proportions were so interesting. I didn't know it went that deep.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft 7 ай бұрын
@@moxielouise The problem with architectural history in colleges is that it is taught through the prism of post modernism. Which is really a rejection of art and natural beauty. Attitude is we can do it better than before because we are modern.
@Darrida
@Darrida 8 ай бұрын
Although I am an architect, when I see the buildings in Hatra miraculously not destroyed by ISIL, I can't understand how this level of Craftsmanship existed 2000 years ago. Architectural Order is the knowledge saved by the few people like you.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. Thanks for watching.
@MKDorianGray
@MKDorianGray 8 ай бұрын
Brent is it still possible to get signed copies of all your books?
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Yes, check in with my office. info@brenthull.com
@MKDorianGray
@MKDorianGray 7 ай бұрын
@@BrentHull Thanks! just placed an order!
@mayxiong5213
@mayxiong5213 8 ай бұрын
I can understand your passion for this topic but I also support creativity. Let people build and decorate their homes how they see fit. It could be completely wrong but aesthetics is so subjective 😅
@georgepauls4159
@georgepauls4159 8 ай бұрын
I respectfully disagree, it’s fine in modern homes as there isn’t much to screw up, but I’ve seen many period houses ruined by folks who winged it, especially in fenestration, as the windows are an integral part of the design, modern windows simply don’t work and can lessen the value of the house
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Yikes, no thanks. Agree to disagree. That is like saying you don't need to learn the piano to start playing, just play whatever you like.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft 7 ай бұрын
The throw away culture needs to stop. The idea of people constantly remodelling every time is absurd.
@LorraineCoe
@LorraineCoe 8 ай бұрын
So much great information. Just curious, did any of the students have an ah-ha moment or come up afterwards and pick your brain? I would have probably had a thousand questions.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Sadly, there wasn't a lot of interaction.
@snafunet
@snafunet 7 ай бұрын
I disagree with the minimum 4 in door architrave moulding in the video. You can use 3.5 in architrave molding for the door for 8-9ft ceilings. Source: Get Your House Right - 12.14 Kuiken Brothers even sells classic stepped 3.5in door architrave molding.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 7 ай бұрын
Ok. I agree with 8 ft ceilings. Most houses don't have 8' ceilings. . . you do know I designed the Kuiken classical moldings. right.
@snafunet
@snafunet 7 ай бұрын
@@BrentHull Heh, yeah I think you mentioned that in one of your videos that you designed those mouldings. I think most new houses don't have 8' ceilings but most older houses (1950s-2000s) have 8' ceilings (my early 90s house included).
@snafunet
@snafunet 7 ай бұрын
@@BrentHull Wonderful mouldings by the way. I've already used them in one room in my house.
@Art-is-craft
@Art-is-craft 7 ай бұрын
@@snafunet 8 foot ceiling were not common in classical era architecture. Most Victorian cottages are going to be 10 foot minimum.
@JoshPiland
@JoshPiland 4 ай бұрын
Cheap… is the very model of a modern major moulding variable.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 4 ай бұрын
Agreed. Thx.
@khurddesign
@khurddesign 8 ай бұрын
Tough crowd lol ....I think young people (most people today, actually) see these older examples and don't care or may think what does it matter if we don't want this STYLE? As I'm watching, I keep thinking, "i get what he's saying, but how do you translate that into a style that doesn't look like 1700's?" (like, I totally value craftsmanship, handmade, unique/custom, beauty, details, etc; and I love a traditional home, but I don't want as much as a Greek Revival. ...reconciling the info and my questions comes down to: It's all about PROPORTION. And being able to implement correct proportion gives you that element that is automatically pleasing to the eye, regardless of the style. ....also, very surprised to see they did not know about Palladio!! I know that just from taking an architectural history course at SCAD as a graphic design student in 2006.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Haha, yes, sounds like you get it. Cheers.
@joecliffordson
@joecliffordson Күн бұрын
Oh wow! First time I have seen the key concept key. Bitchen.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 6 сағат бұрын
Ok. good.
@ferraridan4883
@ferraridan4883 8 ай бұрын
I wish you could get permission to reproduce invaluable long out of print books on architectural elements and design for folks to purchase as reference material. Your channel should be a requirement for any builder in the US who claims to offer fine craftsmanship. I am a builder/banker in Middle Tennessee and finance many upper end homes. Some builders I back have gone almost trimless since they think all buyers are coming from California and do not want trim. I tell them we also have 49 other states where buyers are moving here and may like trim. Much of these are $5 million plus homes. Absolutely sickening. I financed a subdivision several years ago for a developer that was also the builder. He was bragging about his plans were named after famous architects at the turn of the century. I asked him if he had a Sanford White, Richard Morris Hunt or Horace Trambauer plan; the developer said he didn't know who those folks were. Nuff said about continued junk. Thanks for what you do sir !
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Wow, I wish you were in Texas. We could have fun building great houses. Thanks for sharing.
@TheSeriesofTubes
@TheSeriesofTubes 8 ай бұрын
Let me guess, this is a room full of architecture students who don’t know who Palladio is? 🤦‍♂️
@lochlansmith6611
@lochlansmith6611 8 ай бұрын
As a recent college graduate, yes 99.99% of architecture and interior design students don't know anything about Vitruvius, Palladio, the classical orders, or anything significant about design before the bauhaus movement. I have learned 100x more about traditional and historic architecture from Brent Hull and things he's suggested than anything brought up in my classes. My professors hated my “copycat” traditional projects and praised my classmates who had “orginial” and “innovative” designs. I wish more people like Brent Hull taught these things to students to at least give a differing viewpoint on how design should be done.
@St.Basil.
@St.Basil. 8 ай бұрын
​​@@lochlansmith6611 that's just sad. Architects don't know how to build, contractors don't know what parts to provide, clients don't know what to expect. Practically creates loop of incompetence.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Haha, yep. I think well meaning students.
@deezynar
@deezynar 8 ай бұрын
"This is the formula that creates beauty. If you don't follow it, you make ugly things." The statement above explains why architects ditched this system. It is a straightjacket. Modern designers wanted to create beauty but wanted more freedom to create. Some of them, like Wright, and Corbusier, ditched the forms, but kept proportioning systems in their work. However, most other modernists wanted to get rid of the rules and be free, so generally, the modern movement got rid of proportioning systems. Schools of design stopped teaching them. My take is that design without scrupulous attention to proportion may turn out to be beautiful, but it is by accident. Properly applied arithmetic is essential to reliably creating beautiful designs. With that said, ancient moldings, and their shapes, are not the only shapes that can be used to create beautiful designs. There are modern buildings that are beautiful, but those are the exceptions. Following Greco-Roman design principles to the letter means that every building is seasoned the same way. If you don't like pepper, tough luck, there's no hiding from it. On the other hand, Modernism has not created a large enough set of good styles to copy that would insure we don't get bored with them just like we are bored with classical design. I think we need to get some smart people together to study proportion in design and come up with universal principles that can be applied to a variety of forms, rather than always pulling from a limited palette.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. I agree. Any system without invention is boring. I don't think we have had as much "fun" as we can with the classical and I still don't find it boring. I don't see the classical system as hard and fast rules, but merely guides that push you in a hopeful direction. Cheers
@stephaniek8284
@stephaniek8284 8 ай бұрын
Classical architecture is a special interest of mine and I’ve learned that there’s been a lot more variation in its usage than most people think. The mannerist, baroque, and neoclassical eras were all very different and there were significant regional differences as well. I think it’s often presented as a more rigid system than was practiced historically because different people throughout time were trying to simplify it or promote their own variation of it (particularly through pattern books like those mentioned in this video), and because people derived rules from what were actually technological limitations (e.g., the Romans likely would have used swoops and curves like those popular in the baroque period if they’d been able to). Even the five orders were invented in the renaissance mostly for convenience. From what I’ve read the tuscan order derives from Vitruvius’ attempt to elevate old wooden Etruscan buildings to the same status as the Greek-derived orders, and later architects took his description and interpreted it as a thicker variation of the doric. There also wasn’t a clear separation between the ionic, corinthian, and composite orders originally. The corinthian started out as just a capital that was applied to particular columns in ionic temples. There are also a lot of historic examples of intermediate ionic/corinthian capitals and they were probably originally understood as variations of the same order. The composite is basically just a super elaborate version of this that Romans used on their most important buildings. Later architects condensed these into the five orders to make working with them more convenient. In modern parlance I think classical architecture can be thought of as a design framework/system, like those often used by UI designers to build interfaces that work well consistently (for example, see Google’s Material Design or Apple’s Human Interface Guidelines). These give you, e.g., proportions, spacing, typographic rules, etc. that work well together for free, and can help you learn why certain principles work. Classical design is basically a design system/philosophy that’s been developed and iterated on for thousands of years. Of course, you can produce good design without a particular framework, but you have to really understand the principles and do a lot more work.
@deezynar
@deezynar 8 ай бұрын
@@stephaniek8284 Well said. I agree. Ancient buildings differed from each other by enough that they don't actually fall into the rule book systems that were codified much later. But codification did happen, and it became a straight jacket for architects that inevitably lead to a rebellion. My thought is that Modern Architecture went its own way, but a few practitioners took versions of proportioning systems that they used. The majority did not, and that has brought us to where we are now, ugly chaos. We need a variety of proportioning systems, and a variety of forms. Without variety we are in a straight jacket again.
@stephaniek8284
@stephaniek8284 8 ай бұрын
@@deezynar I think our highly corporatized economic system also plays a role, unfortunately. The large corporations that are responsible for most of the construction only care about maximizing short-term shareholder value, so they prioritize whatever is cheapest and quickest to build, and at the same time drive wages down and housing costs up so that it’s harder for the average person to afford anything more than the bare minimum. The corporate stranglehold on housing, construction, etc. has lead to the situation we have now where knowledge of how to even build like we did 100 years ago has not been retained because mass producing standardized parts (moldings, etc) that use cheaper and less materials is so much more profitable, and this dynamic has driven pretty much all of the traditional builders out of business. So now even the wealthy who want craftsmanship and beauty have a hard time finding tradespeople capable of producing it. It also doesn’t help that the average person now sees classical architecture as only for the elite precisely because it seems so out of reach for them. And the people who can afford it tend to be the people who don’t value it, because our system rewards those who pursue profits above all else. Unfortunately devaluing craftsmanship in favor of profit is built into the structure of our society, so we’re very much swimming against the tide when advocating for well designed, human-centered architecture. Not that we shouldn’t try, but I think a broad return to craftsmanship is going to require making it more accessible to the average person, which probably won’t happen until the incentive structure built into our economics is changed.
@deezynar
@deezynar 8 ай бұрын
@@stephaniek8284 It was architects who fought to throw off the restrictions of traditional styles who killed them off. Go to the library of a large university and spend a few weeks buried in magazines on architecture, and house design that were published from the late 1880s to 1960. Absorb what they present, in articles, drawings and photos. But pay just as much attention to the advertisements for building materials. You will find out who really caused styles to change and why. You are correct that mass production is important, but if customers wanted particular products, those products would have been made and sold. Those magazines sold a vision of a different house and a different life than what existed before. People wanted to be modern. At least some people wanted to be modern and the magazines that pushed for modern design emphasized that. Your points about economics are incorrect. Falling Water cost a fortune. Modern architecture, even Modern furniture, when done well is not cheap. A skillfully done reproduction of a Federalist house would cost about the same as a house of comparable size by Mies van der Rohe. Moldings cover joints so wall and ceiling surfaces don't have to be made perfectly. Moldings allow for imperfections. Get rid of moldings and the standard of construction has to improve significantly and that's what happened with an increase in labor costs. Modernists sold the idea that Modern design was less expensive, but that did not really pan out due to the need for greater precision in construction. Leftism is not the remedy to bad design. The USSR has enough evidence of that.
@towntownbill
@towntownbill Ай бұрын
I really like your stuff but you don't mention any ideas of modern design or influence. Sometimes architects want the moldings to be smaller (or non-existent) to emphasize a different idea. First, a designer should know how they want the room to feel (calm, dramatic, modern, classic, etc.) They should know the classical orders so, when they break the rules, they break them with intent and purpose.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull Ай бұрын
Agreed. The main reason for my videos is that most people don't know.
@lukehampton3437
@lukehampton3437 7 ай бұрын
The shock when no one knew Palladio hahaha
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 7 ай бұрын
haha, agreed.
@RichSobocinski
@RichSobocinski 8 ай бұрын
Good info, but you need to lose the "um"
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
noted.
@tommooe4524
@tommooe4524 3 күн бұрын
Um…..so what did you learn, um
@maryellenrollins4642
@maryellenrollins4642 8 ай бұрын
Classical Architecture and Design is not taught in the. Schools today.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
True for 98% of architecture programs. It may be in a history class but it is not part of the design curriculum.
@han5k2
@han5k2 8 ай бұрын
Do you know who Palladio is?. ..crickets.. And no doubt, they'll be "designing" McMansions with dozens of Palladian windows...with no reason and likely little appeal.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Lol, lets hope not.
@joecliffordson
@joecliffordson Күн бұрын
Brent. I just started watching but I have to say you look like the building inspector from the FBI with that vest. Just let me say I will reserve my right to remain silent about my rental remodels. I assure you things will be done correctly in the future.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 6 сағат бұрын
ok, noted. thx.
@travdad76
@travdad76 8 ай бұрын
You’re never going to inspire a revolution with arrogance. Calm down and be happy
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
ok.
@rbrazz
@rbrazz 3 ай бұрын
you literally robbed Peter and paid Paul with that mix-up.. :)
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 3 ай бұрын
Haha, Thx.
@BO_Riddle
@BO_Riddle 4 ай бұрын
Brent your feet are too small for your height. Not in proportion lol. Your knowledge of architecture is astounding.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 4 ай бұрын
Haha, thanks.
@TheSeriesofTubes
@TheSeriesofTubes 8 ай бұрын
I can feel the frustration in your voice speaking into a void of people that don’t care and don’t understand his work. As you outlined in your book, building a timeless house in an instant age, Architecture is a reflection of culture, which is downstream from values. I think we are experiencing a shift in consciousness for many of us that are rejecting modernism and thirst for this knowledge and craftsmanship. The future is bright for those who can see through the sea of idiots. I’m so glad this was filmed, so the people that want to see this, can.
@BrentHull
@BrentHull 8 ай бұрын
Nice. Thanks for watching.
@merrim7765
@merrim7765 6 ай бұрын
I'm in fashion design and went to school in the 80s when the design world was so into mass production, getting your designs (downgraded and compromised) in Walmart was regarded as success. But within 20 years, there was a massive shift away from cheap sh** to handmade, slow stitching, creative craftsmanship -- a major 180 turn from boring to interest in beauty and fine quality. Don't give up! Bottom line, just be the style you love and want to see. Keep teaching your clients. Some of them will love the differences you advise.
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