Brett and Casey: Will They? Won't They? - Chicago Fire (Mashup)

[@itshauteoutside]

Never realized how important the last scene was in re: to how Matt refers to “Sylvie” when telling Severide how her and the Chaplain just got engaged and in the last exchange when she calls him “Matt.” The first and last names are used so interchangeably on the show that sometimes you forget which is which. But I think the fact that first names are always used when speaking about something personal is interesting. And in this case, Matt says Sylvie instead of Brett to Severide. It was a subtle choice but I think quite a significant one.

[@klovercoveredkleo2013]

That is some keen observation, I also love it when they refer to each other in their first names 🥰 makes it feel much more intimate and deep.

[@dariatnk999]

I always notice when they call each other by first names, like huh that was unusual 😄

[@britollefson2170]

@@dariatnk999 especially when they're at the firehouse! If they call each other by their first names there you know that it's serious.

[@Veronicavolovik]

Brett brings out a different side of Casey, they belong together. it's so beautiful we are literally witnessing Casey fall in love with her before our eyes but he doesn't want to rush it because of everything Brett is going through. ughhh I love them together

[@klovercoveredkleo2013]

For real though! like the chaplain said, there’s something about her that’s so gentle and nurturing

[@elaisabugeja2226]

Casey’s face when he dropped on one knee was priceless and it shows that he really likes her

[@retired42002vz]

Elaisa Bugeja He was trying to get up the nerve to ask her out, but kept getting interrupted.

[@Gcontreras3924]

mskeys908 really? In what episode?

[@flaakxy298]

giselle c sorry if it took a while but 7x21 or the finale of season 7 I forgot which number it ended on

[@itshauteoutside]

@@Gcontreras3924 yeah it was the episode where Boden and Donna were inviting Casey to dinner at the Palms because they had won it in an auction. And Boden wasn’t allowed to bring Hermann or Mouch so he invited Casey and a date. Casey was thinking of inviting Brett and when he was trying to ask her out, Hermann and Ritter interrupted them when Hermann encouraged Ritter to insult Brett lol. Casey chickened out afterwards 😂

[@unicorn21686]

Hospital 💙🖤🦄

[@cassandramilanjeane6207]

Brett and Casey were made to be together they are beautiful together, and Brett brings out the best in Casey. I love Casey and Brett

[@cameronlyon561]

This is the best show in the world

[@joemckim1183]

Best first responder show and one of the best network shows, I agree about that much. Not ready to put it ahead of Breaking Bad or The but that's a very high bar.

[@nini28745]

It used to be the best show. It's the same thing over and over.. Nothing new. The thing with Brett and Casey, it's been done so many times before.

[@kellyallen6830]

@@nini28745 it was better when they had more fires now it's all drama!

[@nini28745]

@@kellyallen6830 . Exactly !!!

[@kellyallen6830]

@@nini28745 I wonder what made them change it hopefully they will change it back soon!

[@nickixxxx6221]

They have such great chemistry

[@liandraamarilis]

yees

[@patriciarodriguez2144]

Nooo, gabby always

[@nickixxxx6221]

Patricia Rodríguez I love and miss Gabby but she’s not coming back

[@maquiguardiatinoco1232]

@@patriciarodriguez2144 óiĺ Oioiiilo

[@lilycampbell3153]

Ok but just think about the absolute drama if Brett and casey get together and then dawson comes back 😂

[@amn_bncl]

Lol 😂😂

[@donyellehall6934]

that would be the best twist ever

[@km-kl3lg]

Oh hell nah. 😂

[@thecoongingercoon8611]

lily campbell I don't want her back she left him over a fight about having kids

[@anaijah.x.1136]

TheCoon GingerCoon shut up she wanted to have kids it actually important not stupid

[@nick-cr3ye]

I like both Casey and Brett. Stay together untill the end of this series. Don't wanna see another sad story

[@thanglongnguyenvu3815]

Either as friends or as lovers, i don't care. Please just let them have good closure.

[@varshachooranolickal]

exon excel I know right

[@ladybug5154]

I wished that Casey would just tell Brett that he's in love with her already

[@phatlee1784]

Ikr

[@graceklimtschuck940]

Me too!!!!

[@lyn-raanaasiyahchristian336]

Nooo casey and dawson are stillll the bestttttt

[@lyn-raanaasiyahchristian336]

Also severide and kidd

[@Wyattherrold]

As I realize The closer we Are Getting To the 200th Episode it keeps making me think 🤔 of what might happen

[@joc_tamai]

5:54 Otis' face says it all 😂

[@iconichale4096]

If y’all put them together, LET THEM STAY TOGETHER PLEASE

[@perladominguez4799]

I definitely agree... them getting married and have kids💖 aww that will be great. Don't you think?

[@gigiedits8616]

I feel like something like that would not happen Bc I feel like something with working together would affect it

[@perladominguez4799]

@@gigiedits8616 I got the same feeling and also I don't think they will because of Dawson. But I still hope they'll be together

[@lvnana8899]

you can see the anger and disappointment in Casey’s eyes when the chaplain asked Brett to marry him, it broke my heart, I swear if they don’t get together in the next season i’m gonna go cry

[@sharynmorgan944]

Take note of Casey's body language when he's congratulating Brett after the proposal, when he said I'm happy for you all the while he was shaking his head side to side that's what you subconsciously do when you say No, of course you nod your head if your saying yes. So Casey's body language actions do not match his words. That was the first thing I noticed when he was talking to Brett.

[@annahab6870]

Take me back to these simpler days with these twos 🥺😭😭

[@sarasotaguy4598]

I really think Brett is going to realize that she loves Casey more and is going to call off her marriage to the chaplain so she can be with Casey.

[@mitchellries256]

Sarasota guy I don't want to say the show is predictable, but that's what I am willing to bet will happen as well.

[@catrachaV4]

Brett know more Casey not realize is the perfect guy for her n Captain know for few months ... Casey realize that he having feeling for Brett but should tell Brett What he feels for her... Or he still waiting for Gabby come back.... Hope Casey n Brett fallow their hearts.... Report said Brett might leavd house 51 n they got a replacement for her house 51.. Fews times passed she cames back ... Iam thinking at the wholehouse mattress fire exploxion they could realize both are perfect for each other n Casey ask Brett for dinner date the Chef invite ...

[@mitchellries256]

catracha V. I read that both Spencer and Kilmer renewed their contracts for the show and they'll both be around for season 8. So I agree and believe that you're exactly right.

[@marisoljimenez4573]

Hi Sarasota Guy! I totally agree with you. Besides, Nerds belong together, because, they're very cute together!!!

[@mcdazzzled]

Totally

[@binalparekh2580]

They should be together ❤️ I hope the writers don't disappoint the fans

[@lionelmistery4011]

Dawson made a selfish decision as she previligated her professional career to the detriment of her love for Matt. Dawson doesn't deserve Casey. So long live Brett and Casey!

[@klovercoveredkleo2013]

Thank you for finally putting this out here, so true!

[@ericawalker5712]

And she was also very controlling and if things didn't go her way she would throw a fit.

[@alihatem1349]

Ffffaaccttss

[@aria2387]

i have wanted them together since the beginning of the show

[@varshachooranolickal]

aria goffe me too

[@katief.588]

Brett wasn't there since the beginning of the show.

[@silethembakolekaayz8666]

The way she calls Matt says it all❤️❤️

[@cckia27]

Is it me or, since May, there are way more people who would like to see these two together? This fact kinda makes me happy because I feel that they have so much potential... so showrunners and writers do right by them, please. Thanks!

[@siddhantkumar6340]

I have been shipping them since her arrival on the show

[@multiplefandoms4928]

I KNOW RIGHT! I may be the only person to say this but i never liked Dawsey.... i always felt Brett and Casey would be better together.

[@Veronicavolovik]

@@multiplefandoms4928 YES! I never liked Dawsey, I thought I was the only one!

[@paulacavalcanti98]

Me too!!!!

[@paulacavalcanti98]

Multiple Fandoms I thought the Only one who dosen’t liked her

[@paulacavalcanti98]

Veronica Volovik me too!!

[@marywagstaff1178]

Brooo 👏 why am I reading these comments after watching 9x02 like I’m dyinggg ugh the fact that he doesn’t know if he’s over her or not is what’s most frustrating like I get that they were married I understand that but it’s been 2 FREAKIN YEARSSS and Sylvie’s over here breaking off her engagement without a doubt about it cause she loves Matt like come on alreadyyyyy

[@dixitdeepa93]

Well we should feel better now, because he kinda misunderstood the question and the conversation they had later 🤦 In that moment, all he could say was, "I don't know," but afterwards with Severide, I think he realises that he's moved on from Dawson, and Sylvie is the only one he wants 😄

[@marywagstaff1178]

@@dixitdeepa93 well that’s true it definitely seems like he’s moved on from Gabby by the way he was talking to Severide but if he really loves Sylvie he needs to tell her like I get the writers are trying to build a slow burn but how long can u make a slow burn possibly be?! and I’m concerned is that they’ll make us wait till season 10 before they FINALLY get together

[@dixitdeepa93]

@@marywagstaff1178 Haha yeah this plot is pointless! I hope we'll get them together at the season finale of S9 though 😄

[@marywagstaff1178]

@@dixitdeepa93 same haha 😆

[@mariselaisea5417]

They have great chemistry! They should be together! Yes.... Cassey & Brett!

[@mx1kj]

i love these two

[@ellawort7536]

Need to see these as a couple. So cute. Imagine if dawson came back when they were dating

[@emirachelnatalie3397]

Lmao I've heard this story idea come up quite alot on Twitter hahahha

[@staceyclee9686]

She's not coming back :(

[@itshauteoutside]

Stacey Clee but she is! She’s supposed to come back for the winter finale. I’m hoping she gives Casey her blessing to date Brett - even though he really doesn’t need it.

[@itshauteoutside]

Sadly I think this might happen since Monica is supposed to come back for the winter finale 😳

[@Skye0910]

lol that would be so weird and awkward and adorable I wish that happens

[@scotts.7888]

Severide and Kidd better stay together

[@Zozo_Rabbit]

Scott S. yeah seriously they are my ride or die OTP.

[@sonja7404]

They better get married and have kids (on the show)

[@natalyetaylor856]

Can’t wait until it comes back on! I love my Chicago Night!

[@ericd1632]

Yes. Med is my favorite. Sucks Rhodes and Bekker are leaving though

[@lukethewesternengine229]

Can’t wait to see how this plays out!! Really lovely characters...

[@florchizlive]

I like this two , really like

[@mitchellries256]

Florchiz Agreed. If they don't end up together, I'll be clinically depressed.

[@mandlers6375]

omg this show is amazing. all the characters make my day. dump the chaplain and get with CASEY

[@matimurray5078]

I love this show. I can't wait for September 25 , when chicago fire is back.

[@olivia6496]

Brett and Casey are my no1 ship atm 😍 loooove them so much

[@tsgumi]

if they don't get together i will crawl up into a little ball IN A DARK CORNER AND CRY VERY LOUDLY

[@KoramNRdz]

I really enjoyed watching this slow burn. This pairing is so sweet. 😊

[@issaloveslife1980]

I hope they will, they deserve to each other, greetings from Mexico, Chicago Fire is the best tv show ever

[@KossipNews]

Okay, i'm just going to get this off my chest. I know it's been a minute but I am STILL bitter over how Casey and Dawsey ended. I get that she had to be written off the show somehow but do we really think that Gabby would leave the love of her to do relief work??? It's a noble cause but i mean come on!! These two went through SO MUCH just to be together. I really don't like how they made her out to be the bad guy in the end as she was making a lot of selfish decisions. At least Shay had a good memory after being written off - unlike Gabby who is now the woman who broke Matts heart. ANYWAY. At this point I don't mind Brett & Casey they are cute and have good chemistry but I don't think their love story has the staying power that Dawsey did. Matt & Gabby's romance was so satisfying because it had such a great build to it. All these random ships outta nowhere don't do it for me lol. But hey, Gabby's not coming back so if it has to be Brett - i'll take it. Luv her lol 🙃

[@KossipNews]

@Lizzie Allen Yeah I feel like her character changed a lot after she lost the baby ... both of them actually. The two of them are total opposites Matt's easy going and level headed while Gabby was fiesty and impulsive. Without mutual respect and communication the two of them were bound to grow apart. I do think she truly loved him tho. Anyways I am no longer investing my emotions to any of the couples on this show lol. It's too much 😂

[@cckia27]

I agree with every single word you wrote; I wouldn't ever imagined to like Brett and Casey so much, they do have a ton of chemistry. Even if dawsey is and will be the main ship of the show, I do believe that if it's written in a good way they could have a lot of potential.

[@zanellnel2020]

Ok

[@howardbanks1223]

I agree

[@sheyrlundernorth2787]

now the next epi she comes back;)

[@LeySidle]

Love them together! I'm going to watch this till September 25!

[@IWantToMature85]

Shirley Resende I hope they don’t put them together. Gabby is the one he should be with.

[@mitchellries256]

I can't wait until September 25th. That's too far away. I want to see the season 8 premier (and the Chicago Med and P.D. premiers) right now.

[@tjasal.m.6612]

@@IWantToMature85 I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!! ☹️

[@valerialucas2219]

Otis reaction is everything

[@bellabrown6242]

all i’m worried about is severide and stella keeping a steady relationship

[@retired42002vz]

bella brown Me too

[@ASamenicsalias]

yeah for sure

[@janicegrima251]

LET THEM BE TOGETHER GOD DAMN IT !

[@mcdazzzled]

I can't wait till next season

[@unicorn21686]

280 fire trucks.

[@unicorn21686]

280 fire trucks. Ambulance 🦄🖤💙

[@unicorn21686]

Ok

[@unicorn21686]

124421

[@gochohee]

HE'S CLEARLY NOT HAPPY FOR HER!!!!! UGHHHH

[@wilmaqueyquep4207]

Casey & Brett has a good chemistry. I want them to be together as couple. Brett is a good woman & she deserves to be with Casey! They both deserve each other. Give them a chance to be together. They like each other but Casey must do the first move!

[@catrachaV4]

Casey put his foot, give a speech to Brett n he realize that he having a strong feeling for Brett... Casey want to ask out Brett of dinner donation with the chef etc but always something butt in ....

[@Leenabdallah2008]

I just have a question? It has nothing to do with ur comment I’m just confused about Casey and Brett. Are they dating? They kissed? Why tho? Can u explain to me why Dawson left Casey? I’m asking to much questions sorry.🙂

[@Reem-vj2hi]

I actually really like them together, I think they want the same things

[@kj6356]

Well they better get together!

[@paulacavalcanti98]

They are so cute!!! and should be together, please!!! 🙏🏽 Chicago fans need This couple 😍

[@isapink3204]

i honestly started watching Chicago Fire because of them

[@13kkam]

I need them together .. so cute .... so right for each other

[@carlahudson9383]

They definitely need to get together. You can see the chemistry between them.

[@mitchellries256]

Carla Hudson Agreed. Olivia said Casey and Brett were made for each other. Kidd and Foster agreed with that in the next episode. I find it hard to believe that all this chemistry would disappear next season like it never happened. That's messed up.

[@carlahudson9383]

@@mitchellries256 it is a bit messed up I agree.

[@mitchellries256]

Carla Hudson Well technically, it would be messed up if it doesn't happen.

[@dorareina5051]

they are soulmates 😍

[@kayleeSH04]

tell eachother that you are in love allready!🔥😌

[@yasminetabone4225]

THEY BETTER!! Already ticked off after this week’s episode and having to wait a whole month for another one!! 😡

[@dorotawitkowska2784]

Like Kyle said she needs to trust her heart and I somehow feel she likes Matt more than just as a friend. She needs to realize it that she and Matt are ment to be together. They are ment for each other. Love them both.

[@catrachaV4]

Only thing not hope matt not relates with Brett.. Brett will meet her biological mother in season 8 but who's her biological father?

[@lauravanlankvelt6878]

@@catrachaV4 thats what i was thinking...

[@kaylascham3137]

I doubt that engagement is gonna last 😬 Hopefully it won’t. I quite like Brett and Casey together

[@joemckim1183]

Engaged isn't married.

[@IWantToMature85]

What about him and Gabby? She’s his real soulmate. He Barry even talked to Brett when Gabby was around.

[@kaylascham3137]

Joe McKim I know that it isn’t. Didn’t mean to put marriage 😬

[@kaylascham3137]

Zechariah Cameron I agree that Gabby is, if she never left the show I wouldn’t be wishing them together, but seeing as she has.. well then I say for them to be together 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@joemckim1183]

@@kaylascham3137 The problem is with it happening at the end of the season is they could have a time jump from the end of last season taking place back in May and them picking up this season in September. So all that we know they could get married off screen during the summer.

[@janetb463]

I think the two of them would be great together.

[@joemckim1183]

Still not any closer to getting together but they still have a few months left in the season.

[@carolsweda2071]

They love each other carol iam great fan of your show love it carol

[@cosminalin2190]

You better put them together next season ! Somehow..

[@cosminalin2190]

@@IWantToMature85 A true fan would know that Monica decided to leave the show and would want Casey to move on and be happy .

[@IWantToMature85]

Cosmin Casey and Gabby are canon. They were the show and were part of why it was so great. At the end, tv shows seem to come full circle so why not have them reunite?

[@mitchellries256]

Biden told Casey to find a plus one and meet him and his wife for dinner. I am willing to bet Casey will have a plus one for that dinner in the next season and I bet that plus one will indeed be Brett.

[@IWantToMature85]

Mitchell Ries that wouldn’t be right though. She’s going to marry someone else and she’s Gabriela’s best friend. She also dated Gabby’s brother and Cruz. She shouldn’t date Matthew Casey.

[@IWantToMature85]

Mitchell Ries I got a notification for your comment, but I don’t see it anymore.

[@vasstra67]

I dare to say they have more chemistry than gabby and casey.

[@yohamedherrera781]

Absolutley

[@danimeek1499]

This is good

[@brothersofpanda2702]

Will they wont they, *THEY BETTER*

[@marilenetanes3730]

Adorava Casey e Gabby, a Brett com Antônio. Casey é Brett não tem química nenhuma e adoro o meu casal preferido Stellaride.

[@200657olga]

Life takes you down hard paths, personally I like Matt and Brett as a couple.

[@Anasofia-xn2pb]

Eu quero Chicago fire de volta

[@kameronsmith5434]

This is the best TV show and Chicago fire department 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👨🏿‍🚒👨🏿‍🚒👨🏿‍🚒👨🏿‍🚒👨🏿‍🚒💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿

[@anabelgascon]

They should be together 😍

[@tigerlily5004]

They should!!! The Chicago’s shows are the best!! My mom and I watch them together. They should be together because they both are peppy and sweet! They are both into relationships and like bing in them! They are just perfect together😍😍😍😍😍😀😀😀😀

[@Moore2luv2680]

What happened between Casey and the other girlfriend

[@nini28745]

Chicago pd all the way.

[@retired42002vz]

Denise Moore If you’re talking about the reporter, I think she took a job overseas??

[@nadiuska1989]

I love them 😍😍😍😍😍

[@paulacavalcanti98]

I fight for them!! They are very cute and deserve be happy!! 😍😍😍

[@kellykarycki1386]

they belong together!❤️

[@gerusha780]

I hope they are going to be together in season 9

[@mitchellries256]

It took them until the end of the season but your wish came true.

[@dorinaborgyos332]

Love them together ❤

[@jonathanoscategui2678]

What I love about Casey and Brett is they make a cute couple and they both work hard at their jobs. Honestly their relationship will be tested aloy next season and my hope is a dangerous fire accident where one of them almost dies makes the other realize how important this other is

[@PeterLong-dm5xh]

The best show in Australia 🇦🇺 on foxtel ever keep this show alive and going keep the drama alive and continue the same story with the same people who make this show the best ever turn up the heat 🔥🔥🔥🔥 I really like this show keep on making more of this show and more of this amazing series show

[@rosaondarra-barron8835]

I am glad that the writers didn't put Brett and Casey together as soon as Dawson left but I think enough time has past for them to be together now!!??

[@hi.5311]

Ye but I do not know all anout this so can sombody tell me what is going on with Brett and Dawson

[@mytvseriestrash92_luv13]

They need to be a SHIPPPP!!!!! PLEASEESS

[@julieglenn3816]

Can’t wait for Brett and Casey to hook up they would most definitely make a good couple!! Can’t wait for it to come back on!!

[@mitchellries256]

Julie Glenn I literally had a dream last night were they all survived the fire in the season 8 premiere and Sylvie decides to stay back. Sadly, I woke up before Casey asks her out.

[@MetalMiIIs]

They better. I shipped them from the beginning.

[@thalytaoliveira9204]

pleeeeeaaaaase, let them be together

[@auraangel1372]

I think they will they look so good together

[@antoniogentile4121]

One of the best pairs on the screen!

[@polyannatrovao]

Por favor Chicago Fire, não façam a gente criar expectativas para depois separarem o casal igual fizeram com Casey e Gabby e Jay e Lindsay 💔

[@paulacavalcanti98]

Quero na nona temporada de eles juntos e ela engravidando no último episódio pra ele finalmente ser pai. Amém 🙏🏽

[@renaeemorgan8914]

I ship them😍

[@oxleygames5571]

So your telling me Casey doesn’t have Joe CRUZ on his phone? 😂😂😂

[@milenafreitas527]

Quem tá ansioso pra vê eles juntos

[@lisnasimento5632]

Eu não Não quero eles junto

[@lisnasimento5632]

@@ricardoalmeida9283 kkkkkkk

[@andrezaferreira2022]

@@ricardoalmeida9283 ja falou bosta.... o mais engraçado é q vc so falou dela e o Severide q pegou geral ele tbm nao presta é vagadundo? ou o seu preconceito é so com mulher? tipo a mulher sai com varios homens ela é vagabunda o homem sai com varias mulheres ele é pegador? affs vê se cresce.... 🤬🤬😡

[@ricardoalmeida9283]

@@andrezaferreira2022 Quem deixou o comentário foi uma mulher eu Yara

[@andrezaferreira2022]

@@ricardoalmeida9283 por essa eu não esperava.... nao aceito bem preconceitos contra mulhes... certos funks ja fazem isso detona as mulheres enqantos os homens são santos.... nada contra qem curti funk so acho q deveriam ter mais respeito, um colega fez uma postagem parecida no face e claro eu nao deixei passar desapercebido mesmo q tivesse sido uma brincadeira... so nao gostei muito do comentario mas ta bom 😕

[@arcaningamer979]

Ohlala Brett and Casey😍❤

[@afuaoduro6714]

omg i just found out gabby is coming back in season 9 omg ahhhhh

[@miriamyoung7897]

Say what? How did u find that out? How do you know it’s true?

[@gochohee]

Ahhhhhhhhhh shiiiiip!!!!♥♥♥

[@katherinehorvath2588]

That was perfect how he wrote the letter. It would be great if they got together. We will have to wait and see.

[@aliozanerbektas]

No matter what role he plays, he's always gonna be Dr. Chase for me!

[@polarfox9065]

I hope they get together, i think they are right for each other. I loved Gabby and Matt, i really did, i was cheering for them as most of the fans were. And they were good together, and they worked, but i feel like that has come to an end. I don't think they would work together anymore. They have both changed anf ultimately i don't think they want the same things anymore. Plus Gabby made some pretty important decisions by herself, decisions that include Matt, and that was something she shouldn't have done. After the last episode, i feel like they finally had closure, and i think they are finally going to go their own ways and find happiness. Just my opinion

[@Wyattherrold]

As I realize The closer we Are Getting To the 200th Episode it keeps making me think 🤔 of what might happen

[@ophelie86]

I totally ship them ! Please, make it happen !

[@hypnotiq.rodriguez]

At 5:29 I was like aww poor Casey he loves Breet but he has to be happy for her

[@vancesuggs7488]

Casey and Brett are perfect for each other

[@betulcakr6277]

I really love them.Hopefully they'll be together 🙏❤

[@emilyfunrobloxtimallen5575]

Yeah I know she loves Casey and he loves her to this two will be great together when does this show come back on

[@ObviouslyBlonde]

Even though I am super excited for Brettsey, I have to admit that she had great chemistry with the chaplain.

[@marisoljimenez4573]

I'm really looking forward to tv going back to its fall schedule. I really miss watching tv. How about the rest of you guys? Is it just me or do you guys agree with me??

[@brothersofpanda2702]

I've wondered this for a while, but how in the world does Jesse just turn his accent off 😂😂😂

[@SmileFaceVirgy]

pleaseeeee i love them together :D

[@alexwilson9886]

They really should end up together!

[@mitchellries256]

Alex Wilson Agreed. This is just like Monica and Chandler in Friends, or Jake and Amy in Brooklyn Nine-Nine. We never suspected them of being together one day until it happened. And each of them were perfect forever. I think the same can work for these two as well.